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Ignore romance and harems inIsekaiand embraace adventure
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>>287507936
Close. But replace adventure by civilization building.
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I finally picked up I Thought I Had Reincarnated in a Musou Game, But It Turns Out This Is a Hardcore Grimdark Game since most of the chapters are free now, and it's a lot of fun. MC is basically Doomguy for the demons. And before anyone asks, no it's not KR silver haired loli GBit's JP silver haired loli GB
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>>287507936
You can have both as a summoner.
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>287508077
what are some isekai that the protag becomes powerful through infinite level scaling and eating cooked foods?
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Is the Academy(TM) responsible for the class discrimination between students?
A commoner can attend classes with noblemen, but they're gonna get bullied and discriminated against, is this the Academy's fault or the isekaijin's?
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Girl that deserves to lose
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Why are girls like this
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>>287508682
They hate each other since they were kids
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>>287508105
>I Thought I Had Reincarnated in a Musou Game, But It Turns Out This Is a Hardcore Grimdark Game
Is there a difference? Lu Bu slaughtering a thousand mooks and Doomguy slaughtering a thousand demon mooks is pretty much the same.
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this Stardust copy is aggressively mid. how did the japs lose to the gooks on a 1:1 match up?
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Demons are just that easy.
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forgot pic
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I see this dragon but realize the world is reversed. As in reversed logic.
So it's likely a boy if there isn't any immediate hostility.
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>>287508882
It wasn't supposed to be doomguy slaughtering demons, MC turned it into that. Original story was suffering builds character.
>>287508996
Yes.
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>>287509081
>White knight getting saved by a manslut
Disgraceful
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>>287509116
>Manslut MC becomes powerful by HAVING SEX?
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>sex
dropped
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What does commoner pussy feel like?
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>>287509307
they're fairly different, yeah
bloodborne is an hp lovecraft story with incomprehensible horrors
dark souls 1, elden ring, and sekiro are about ruined kingdoms and a journey to fix them, I've heard dark fantasy, and they fit because they all have a core of "immortality bad"
dark souls 3 is about a fully post apocalyptic world doomed to complete desolation with a glimmer of hope with the painter
dark souls 2 and demon souls, I dunno, never played them
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>The blond lead is less attractive and cuter than the CF
>Said CF has been devoted to the MC for 15 years and protects him from the "insert world where Woman are numerously stronger than men"
>She's also been responsible with dealing his "Needs to hug the closest person available" debuff all those years.
>Also she's stronger than her and lives with the MC
I dunno what the thought process was for making a girl immediately overshadow the heroine in like the first 10 chapters.
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>>287509184
She's a loser so no.
This is what a winner looks like.
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>ywn have a skellington taking care of you until your soul leaves your body
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Evil woman... Need correction!!
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>>287509677
all according to plan
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>>287509699
agree
impregnation is the cure all
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Yeah... It's hard to tell whether her horniness is coming from the fact that she wants to fuck him or to use his body for necromancy.
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>>287509677
Which way, loner man?
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>"lonely"
>constantly surrounded by cute girls (and has tons of sex in the novel)
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>>287509845
of course
granted, genociding furries isnt wrong but even then she won so hard mc still couldn't stop thinking of her
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The awkward conversation draws nearer.
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>>287509524
The kot gauntlets stay ON forrape.
>>287510061
>Is this
Yes. The artist wrecked their hand like the Last Boss manga artist and hasn't been able to draw for almost two years. They deserve it for removing all the romance and ecchi that was in the LN.
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Nomance is dogshit. Romance and sex are essential aspects of the human experience. You cannot write a compelling story about humans without romance and sex.
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>fiancee leaves you because you got the healer class
>It's not that being a healer is bad
>Healer is actually an important and respected class one can get
>It's just that in her previous life when she played the game this world is based on, she absolutely despised healers because they were total assholes
>She knows you're the best person someone could have as a fiance and life partner
>But she can't get over her healer trauma, which she refuses to elaborate on or tell you anything about
>You drown your sorrows in alcohol and while you can cure a hangover you can't cure a broken heart
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>>287510476
That stuff was in the LOTR it wasn't the focus. The Entwives all died and so the ents became trees after the war ended. Elrond's wife was raped by orcs and she was so mindbroken she had to an hero herself.
The issue with isekai is that the age ratings and editors prevent sex even happening in the story. Something like Kaguya is rated 18+ and doesn't even so shit. So you have extremes where nothing happens and it makes the story feel stupid, to actual over the top smut.
Villager A should be the standard.
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>>287510476
>t.
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>>287510523
is the vampire rich and love potatoes?
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>>287510460
Still dead. Unfortunately nugget stocks appeared to have tanked.
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Are there multiple isekai where the MC returns and the world he returns to is like zombie pandemic or onmyouji or vampires or some shit?
Like I remember an isekai from 2022 we read where the main enemy was demons, but MC beat them and went back home and then he had to deal with vampires
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They get these a little earlier.
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>>287510750
>six onaholes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29QjP2siziU
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owari da
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>MSGK (male) destroyed
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So in other words:
Za Warudo!
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>in a stunning reveal near the end the lust devil reveals Zilbagias does have occasional thoughts of wanting to smash the dragon
>mind reading grandma turns back up and is hit with mental damage on reading Layla's thoughts
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Ok so the kusogaki has been teasing, harrassing and destroying the self-condifence of that girl(just how a mesugaki would ruin a boy her age since childhood). The kusogaki likes her but kept doing that to her for a long time.
Then it gets to a point the girl asks the MC to take her virginity(like how a boy would ask a woman to pop his cherry) and the girl stops paying sttention to the kusogaki. The kusogaki then uses peer pressure to force the girl into becoming his girlfriend.
Then the girl does the thing in the pic, mentally breaking the kusogaki.
Now, this would be standard NTR fare put of context, since >>287510903 looks like the girl fell for the ojisan and abandons her CF. But this is a reverse morals world, so this is actually the girl taking control of her life the kusogaki took away for so long.
But if you were to swap everyone's genders wouldn't it look like a mesugaki who got her comeuppance?
These reverse morals stuff really strange once you flip things and think about it.
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That spider cuck manga got picked up by the same site doing the big titties whores harem
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Is the whole purpose of this manga ragebait?
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>>287511462
>Spider cuck
This one?
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>>287511496
>Read CF betray manga
At least read better CF manga.
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Turner bros...her advantage is slipping...
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>>287511597
She is a spider and she pleases an old man for money early in the story (like chapter 2), hence spider cuck.
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>>287511698
Yeah the girls literally "pretend" to be whores almost every volume to "extract information" from some guy, anyone can tell at a glance that he just wants to make an NTR doujin but still wants to make money by being in a magazine.
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>>287511698
What's the eng name?
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>>287508899
Pretty much the only thing it has going for it was the worldbuilding. The fact it bothered with the civilian side was the only interesting thing so far.
>>287511726
JP comedy sucks because it's mostly self deprication or lucky pervert moments.
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It's going to be just three girls isnt it?If that.
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>>287511838
You'll stop noticing if you know what's good for you.
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Monster Onna Kanbu wa Osanaki Yuusha o Dekiaisuru
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>>287509677
The LN (and I assume WN as well) had a certain balance where she'd beat him in martial training during the day while he'd "beat her" in marital training at night.
The manga/anime seems to fuck this up with censorship and turns it into generic one-sided slapstick slop.
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>>287511887
Naturally, it's painted as "oh, the hero can't know I'm a fucking spider" but then you get that panel and it just reads like "oh, the hero can't know I'm a fucking whore".
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>You research of methods to change classes
>You arrive at a possible answer told of in texts, you decide to go big or die trying
>It's a rare reward that drops when you satisfy some obscure conditions you barely managed to decipher
>while brutally risking your life for a chance of changing, your ex-fiancee is networking and gathering handsome rogues(male leads and side characters) and assorted powerful beings
>You get the class-changing item and go to your ex-fiancee
>You try to tell her about your findings but she doesn't want to listen
>She doesn't believe of the existence of a class-changing item(because it doesn't fit in her knowledge of the world)
>She even takes the item and destroys her in front of your face and leaves with her not-harem of handsome rogues
>Go drink your sorrows away to local bar and next thing you know you're in bed with someone else, strangely feeling drained of emotions and also feeling a bit dried.
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At this point 4chinz should just make an /ntr/ containment board and ban the topic from /a/ altogether. But of course the admins won't do that because they know that such a board would remain empty as these ntr-posting faggots only post ntr to annoy others, considering if they'd only post among themselves they'd give it up instantly.
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It's not our fault that nips are mindbroken by NTR.
I find it funny in a trainwreck sort of way. Surprise NTR is going to kill any isekai it appears in, so you might as well see where the author is going with it. It's the last time he's going to write anything.
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it's on a paywall site but the whoring chapter is free to see if you want
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>>287512087
the author posts uncensored nips on his pixiv (where he also tags the story as romantic comedy kek). can just get the only parts of the manga that matter there if you're truly down bad for this NTR slop with lame fights in-between it.
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Isekajin if they were realistic
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>>287512033
Nah, better just don't feed into it. They'll just change their author name like they did with those shounen manga authors caught in scandals recently.
>>287512047
LN editors used to appease purityfags to the maximum, so the MCs never had sex with any of the girl because the editors were afraid that the purityfags would feel cucked by the MCs. Then isekai took over LNs and this appeasement policy was gone. Other things that isekai killed/countered are tsunshit-slapstick-"""comedy""" and moralfag "if you kill your enemies you'll be just like them". I love Isekai.
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It's cancer at this point.
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>>287508899
I think that's because they downplay MC influence and introduce muh powerful women characters. Stardust is powerful but Egostic still has upper hand because of his plot knowledge.
Readers wanna see damsels in distress not women that kinda don't need to be saved to begin with.
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>>287509781
That's fair. She doesn't even have human-like ass or legs. Anything without a pair of succulent glutes is too much in my book.
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>>287512180
At the time (late 2000s / early 2010s) everything pointed towards more and more moralfaggotry in the future like some sort of counterreaction to the whole "survival" genre. Especially the mainstream shounen MCs at the time were (or turned out to be later) overly moralfags and/or loser cucks (e.g. SnK, Neverland, BHA, Vinland Saga, etc.) But when isekai came around it created a certain "legitimacy" for authors to keep creating MCs that understand that mercy to an enemy is often cruelty to oneself.
Though there are some weird outliers like the Shield Hero anime specifically that turned Naofumi and Raphtalia into "never killed anyone that wasn't already at least half-turned into a monster" moralfags for some reason, even though no such thing happened in the WN/LN/manga.
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o7 minesweepers
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>>287512033
>It's not our fault that nips are mindbroken by NTR.
Are you going to imply that other asians or western media is not full of it? I remember watching Santa Barbara as a kid and it was stuffed with cuckshit, full of cheating.
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>MCs never had sex with any of the girl because the editors were afraid that the purityfags would feel cucked by the MCs
There is some of this, but I'd say it's more that shipping is a hook that gets people to continue reading something long after the main draw doesn't work anymore.
The House Fucker isekai, for example, is one of the worst isekais ever. It's extremely long and boring, but the fact that MC fucked his house in the first few chapters hooks you in thinking MC is going to fuck other girls. He never does. But here is a case where MC had sex and the promise of more was used as bait for a subpar series.
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Not a lot of those, but a lot of ones where America is relatively helpless and comes to Japan for help e.g. Onii-sama or one with rapists goblins, magical girls and bug allies. Even in Egostic series, US has most powerful heroes yes, but is constantly fucked by the most powerful villains too.
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>>287512406
Yeah Egostic rip off movies and memes for his early terrorism.
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No, but it's used in gookshit intentionally to create drama.
Nips know that their readers hate NTR and that including it could very well be the end of their careers. So when you see it, it's either accidental, because the author was too stupid to realize they wrote NTR, or some kind of trolling/revenge like with the Tatami isekai.
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>>287512387
how about a world where America is the only safe country remaining?
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>>287512313
It's more like a 50/50 now with iskeai. Multiple "revenge" fail to deliver it.
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>>287512442
You sound delulu. NTR is a ragebait for engagement in nip media too. Yes the series might be shit but people will talk about NTR, so it's working as intended. You're doing it now.
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"How it works" is only half of the battle, there is still the issue of "how it's made". Do I know how mechanical wristwatches work? Yeah, sure. Would I be able to make one without modern machining tools? Abso-fucking-lutely not, not even in 100 years.
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If I can fashion an alternative with magic, then what's exactly stopping the natives from doing exactly that? With lots of inventions the idea predates the technological process, sometimes even by centuries or millennia.
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Romans were like 1 step away from creating the steam engine. They already made automatically opening/closing doors using steam pressure. All they needed to do is combine a few concepts they had already developed individually, and they might have reached 18th century tech.
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>>287512733
the greeks made this
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>>287512669
Yes.
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That's not how authors and editors see it. They see success of series with NTRbait and go
>hey what if we took that one step futher?
>surely we'd be even more successful then!
You are literally doing
>NTR: -_-
>NTR, Japan: -o-
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>>287512693
>then what's exactly stopping the natives from doing exactly that?
You underestimate how lack of know-how or directed persistence can stagger technological progress. Yes some of inventions we enjoy IRL look obvious in hindsight, but they were discovered hundreds sometimes thousands of years later than they "realistically" could have been.
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>>287512815
That's an old Japan tradition though. I forget the term but it means "sons succeeding fathers".
It's why Mazinger Z was always destroyed in favor of Great Mazinger, and why Gohan was supposed to replace Goku as the lead of Dragonball.
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It's okay to be a cuck
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>>287512895
Lingua latina non penis canina
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Does this count as heroine having an ex?
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>>287512806
The most popular isekai in nippon, Tensura, has at least 3 cases of NTR. Youm cucks Grucuius, Benimaru cucks Phobio and Rimuru kinda cucks Leon (2 out of 3 of the cucked are beastmen, makes you think...) yet no one seems to care about the NTR whatsoever, many don't even realize it's happening. Other series on the other hand require NTR-bait or even outright NTR to gain any motion at all and in most cases it's a very short-lived firework that soon collapses on itself.
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That's not cheap drama, that's targeted cultural destruction. But that's more of a /pol/ thing if anything.
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I always find that kind of shit disingenious.
Yeah, sure, you realistically can't create a bicycle yourself from sticks and tree sap. But guess what? Neither can anybody else, every invention relies on other people to create the parts and figure out the details.
And obviously if you try to recreate telescopes in a literal jungle tribe, you're gonna fail, but that's not because you're dumb, it's because their level of development just doesn't allow it.
Despite this, a guy who knows future tech is definitely going to be useful if they just have access to a halfway decent craftsman who believes them and if they get some time to think about what's actually plausible to recreate. Knowing what technology is actually useful and their general shape and working principles is a huge fucking boon, a lot of inventing involves figuring out what's actually useful and going through failures to figure out which way will work. This knowledge basically places you at like 60% of the way to the goal already, as long as you don't try to create a computer or something similarly unreasonable. The details can be figured out by specialists with enough time.
The biggest issue here is honestly just getting a person with resources to trust you enough to give you a chance. Most people are just going to assume you're making shit up and it won't work, unless you prove yourself trustworthy.
Though of course a lot of isekai does make technological progress too easy.
Honestly, I still think the best example of how you could realistically do this stuff is Bookworm Part 1 and 2. People constantly complain about "soup" but it's generally pretty thoughtful about how you could actually get your inventions to come to market. It handwaves things a little with why Benno trusts Myne, since without that the story would just end, and some inventions are a bit questionable, but the general idea is right there. I still think it's the golden standard of "invention in isekai" story for me.
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You can read a manga and go
>wow, the girl he liked went for another guy...I wonder that'll happen next week
and it's as much of an endorsement of NTR as
>wow, he stabbed that guy...I wonder that'll happen next week
is an endorsement of stabbing.
There is a place in dramatic literature for NTR and cuckoldry(all cuckoldry is NTR, not all NTR is cuckoldry)
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Fucking secondaries.
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Murderhobos?
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Give it to 4chan to build concentration camps for NTR.
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western meme overload
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>>287513312
Meme this.
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>>287513318
I have read a lot of them and didn't find a good one yet. They all have serious flaws.
>moral reversal world updates too slowly
>kukkoro has too much politics
>virgin knight has to little MC
>island inn is too episodic
>konbini is too short
>only male knight is too whorey
>1:5 MC is plot convenience rather than a character
>1:39 jokes get too contrived and tiresome
only male in alien space army - I have not read yet
1:5 and moral reversal world adaptation of Amahara doujins, I would say are the best out of them
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>Never killed anyone that wasn;t half turned into a monster
What about the pope and kyou? They were both murdered by naofumi. Raphtalia defenestrated idol rabierthough he survived and got curshed by the dragon T-rex.
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Gook kot
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>>287513694
What about the jew?
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>>287513685
That's not a kot. This is a kot.
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>>287513694
Flatties are for bullyingand impregnation.
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Señor Ed...
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You know, you're kinda taking the piss at this point when your MC's name is legitimately Fool.
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She is so adorable. Alicia is legit the best girl in the series
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>>287513243
don't stick it in the crazy
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aspiring NTRwoman trying to get her sister to get married to MC only to have him cheat on her
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M-M-M-M-Mindbreak!
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>>287514474
Anon...
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What if the entire isekai has been carefully engineered for hundreds of thousands of years by the most ultimate entity in the omniverse for the sole purpose of being lovey-dovey with you?
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>>287513774
>man, I'm dead
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>>287514075
Pitslut
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>>287514474
>there was that random-ass isekai where Truck-kun literally crashed through MC's house while he was playing bideogames
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>>287514812
Blue ovaries is true romance.
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>>287514861
Yeah that's the kind, I already read that.
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Sounds good, anyone have a list?
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>>287514694
Schizo would look at this and be like
>well that's alright
but moral reversal is muh "pathetic" and "wanting female privilege"
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>Sounds good, anyone have a list?
only obsolete one
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Is there any story with a beast girl romance which starts with the MC picking up an injured animal which is initially hostile to him, but he slowly wins them over. She then, once cured, reveals her human form and turns yandere-ish?
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>fight-sexual
isekai whose heroines all fall in love by literally getting beat up?
there are a few heroines like that, Delta from Eminence, Darkness from Konosuba, but they're always just for comedy and never the main girl
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>>287515452
Serena. Being strung along for 15 volumes before getting D pretty much makes her main girl. Nobody spent more time with MC outside of ship than her.
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>>287515528
Certainly in this novel and others from same author.
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>>287515574
Serena wanted to recruit Hiro as subordinate. When hiro confronted her and told her to fuck off and he won't be chained because the pay is dogshit and he would be cut off if her enemies press her, and Serena couldn't retort. Also she was jealous how he could fuck off and have fun freely. It's only after she was destroyed in sparring, that she truly began gushing. She wanted mr Kind man who could also wreck her in a fight.
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I don't remember entirely how they handled the pope, I vaguely recall that they still had some kind of excuse about him to whitewash Naofumi. Though I mainly refer to S1 since I didn't watch the later seasons of the anime (I read the WN/LN and parts of the manga though). With that noble you seem to have forgotten that they changed how he fell down through the window. In the LN/manga Raphtalia pushed him out of the window, but in the anime she pulled an "if I kill you I'll be just like you" and spared him, only for him to try to sneak an attack on her and... slip over his own whip to fall down the window (WTF!) so Raphtalia can be whitewashed even from mere "attempted self-defense killing".
There's also the random bandits that the main cast only "captured" in the anime instead of killing them as they did in the LN/manga (excluding the one bandit group that Naofumi "corrected" to be his subordinates, of course).
Finally there was the execution of bitch/trash where in the WN/LN/manga the queen had to try really hard to persuade him to leave them both alive, in the anime had a MUH pre-emptive self-guilt nightmare and because of that chose to spare them both himself. After all that I wrote off the anime as trash even though it had done the first arc (up until he "re-enslaved" Raphtalia after his duel with Motoyasu) so well. It's really a shame how bad it became.
Though the way you say it, it seemed to have gotten better on that front in the later seasons at least.
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She deserved it for how she tried to strong-arm Hiiro into being her subordinate wage-slave who'd have to start all the way from the bottom at the beginning of the story even though it would have caused him to experience an unreasonable pay cut of like 99% and really didn't have any upsides for him whatsoever at that moment other than... uh, "job security" or something?
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>>287516268
But BSS!
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BSS = NTR lite
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>>287516327
>Big Serena's Serenas?
She's not that b- alright that's pretty big.
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>>287516338
Women such as Serena only like someone like Hiiro ESPECIALLY because of him being independent and no-way-fagging her. If he complied and became her subordinate she'd have quickly lost interest in him and she even somewhat admits it with how she didn't even retort about cutting him off instead of taking responsibility over him if someone higher up ended up having beef with him as >>287515634 anon mentioned.
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Is there any regretkino where the MC is betrayed by people who, despite having good intentions, did so based on a misunderstanding that the MC was evil, only for it to lead him to actually become evil? Basically a face-slapping/revenge type story, but with more drama and less choleric villains
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>>287516466
This rational explanation doesn't quell emotional response to meeting a man first but ending up at the tail end of 7 other hoes in his harem. 8 if you count 2nd fox picked up between segs and wedding.
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>>287516476Overlord.
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But the outcome she had was still better than if Hiiro had agreed to her "offer" as it would have made things much more miserable for both of them. Now it's just her having a first world problem of losing her headstart and having to make up for her prior mistakes over time, not even appreciating that Hiiro forgave her for that insulting "offer" at all. She's way too entitled and thus worst girl. Even then she's not a bad girl at all, the competition is just all better than her.
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>>287516476
This, kinda? Not exactly what you are looking for, but it's the only thing that comes to mind that at least partially resembles what you seem to be looking for.
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She's an elf, shouldn't she be getting naked already?
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Fuck, just realized that my post kinda sounds like what used to be one of the most common DeepL MTL errors caused by Japanese punctuation with "what you are looking for", kek.
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>>287516953
Oh wow, it did, I wasnt expecting the sex but its nice to see an active love interest who takes initiative, though I think this is a little forward of her
>tfw she taught him sex while being a virgin
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>>287516729
Looking at the summary from novelupdate, it seems that the MC was already evil in the first timeline . Is that really the case or is it a bait and switch? It also seems to be lacking the betrayal aspect.
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>>287516983
He got the order wrong.
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>>287517239
It's a culture thing.
>when woman is married she is losing her value and autonomy
>husband and his parents basically own her
>she can't complain too, turned into an incubator
>girls are trash for a reason, girl equals abortion for a reason
>romance before gaokao is also a shame so average chink is undersocialized
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If this is going to be the new girl, either there was a change in plans from the chapter 1 page or this appearance is more of a disguise.
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I hope this bitch gets what she deserves.
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>tfw your saintess daughter seems to want something from you, but you're not sure what
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>tfw your saintess daughter seems to want something from you, but you're a jojo poser
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>my feet hurt
>the bathtub is too cramped
>Her butt is humping on my limped dick
>I wish she was at the Academy™, fucking capture targets
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People cry at Kenkou Cross for forbidding NTR and then ignore the literal thousands of monstergirl stories that are nothing but cuckshit. Goes to show cucks are never happy no matter how much they're catered to while vanillachads are forced into eternal vigilance.
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yeah, they fuck on chapter 4
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