obsessed schizo

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>>287526983
No she work for DC and Marvel.

Your point is... what exactly?

>>287527229
She going to kill the manga industry from the inside. She working for dc and Marvel.

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>>287527347
Wait until you get a load of me.

>>287527229
OP is a schizo spammer.

>>287527229
I don't know about him, but I think that the lolis are great, and that alone makes it AOTY for me.
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>>287526960
The cursed anime adaptation shitposters

>>287527441
>>287527389

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>>287527389
Oh. Boringposter, right? Wasn't he a Solo Leveling shill?

If the anime sells well, then it's the beginning of the end.

>>287526960
Saying the series itself is an industry plant is wrong since she didn't even have these views when she started. However she clearly got annoying virtue signaly behavior from Twitter (the Palestine thing is fine, it's the rest that's retarded) and it's clear the UN who went against "problematic" manga in the past see her as a "safe" creator to make use of & say retarded shit like "manga is male-driven"
>>287527369
Yeah western collabs used to be cool, now they're not. Your point?
>>287527267
They have a really bad track record with manga.

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In Jump, WHA would have been axed after 10 weeks.

>>287527267
True.

>>287527347
Marvel and DC pay great rates to Japs that work with them.
They know there's a lot of prestige in working with manga artists.
Even back in the 60s, this was a thing. Arguably one of the greatest manga artists ever, Ryoichi Ikegami got his start doing a Spiderman Manga.
>>287527550
Spiderman: Fake Red was one of the best Spiderman stories of the last 20 years.
Now, that isn't a high bar to clear, but the cross-ocean collab was worth it.

>>287527550
She did become a industry plant been hang around dc and Marvel too much they push shit into her head.

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>Like yourself, more and more women have managed to make their mark in this traditionally male-dominated field
She's not created in a lab or whatever and the manga wasn't planned by the UN but you're retarded if you think disingenuous stuff like this (you know very well they're not talking about when most shoujo authors were male eons ago) isn't what they're trying to use to "fix" manga just like they proposed regulations multiple times in the past.

>>287527423
Nice.

>>287527550
>the Palestine thing is fine
Why? Is it because it's the one you agree with her on?

>>287527644
>>287527423
Don't care not having the un use her to fuck up the manga industry. I'l was about to read the manga to but after seeing this shit hell no.

>>287527653
She was either intentionally avoiding making a political statement or didn't get what they were trying to lead her to saying, because her reply was pretty good at avoiding any great generalizations other than anonymity allowing for greater artistic freedom and the unstable world creating a lot of people with a lot to say.

>>287527546
I thought the end has already began

>>287527653
Manga is male dominated but not in the way they say. A while ago there was a big drama when it was revealed most editors are male, even from shoujo magazines, and because it was leaked that a Jump guy said "women editors wouldn't understand men's comics anywy" and he was forced to apologize.

>>287526960
Donald Trump should invade Japan and get it cancelled by force

>>287527731
>AI slop
>Despise she being Pro Palestine
I see

>>287527707
Shoujo being governed by men is half of why the yaoi industry boomed like it did.
Because they wouldn't let women draw erotic-tinged romances in mainstream heterosexual shojo magazines (much too improper for school girls!!), so the horny broads were all driven to yaoi mags.

Half of it is probably just age. I imagine the average editor trends much older than the average mangaka in a lot of places. And every generation you go back, you have a bigger gender disparity.

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>>287527699
this is way, way worse than shit trends internally within Japan, and rogue localizers overseas

>>287527667
I do but that's irrelevant; what matters to this board it has absolutely zero impact on manga. If she was pro-Israel I'd think that's stupid but I wouldn't take it as evidence she's being used by pro manga regulation people.
>>287527707
I mean, yeah, given the subject and who they were interviewing it's quite clear what they meant. It's just very stereotypically applying Western complaints about the capeshit industry to a place where it doesn't belong because they want to finger-wag.

>>287526960
That article is completely benign, why are people throwing such a hissyfit over it?

>>287527833
Because the UN made clear attempts to censor manga before and stuff like "woman authors in a male-driven industry", along with being disingenuous, screams "dogwhistle" given that history.

You could say you don’t like it and move on with your life but you live like this

>>287527585
You know very well it's about the views that are rampant in DC/Marvel circles now.

>>287527833
>people
Just a spammer or two.

>>287527860
Un has no power to censor anything

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>fantasy europe
>no cat people

Are they serious

>>287527866
This isn't a shit post you should be worried.

>>287527915
I saw a bunch of retards on Twitter seething about this as well, which prompted me to read the actual article which as I said, is entirely benign. The author says nothing controversial at all in the article and the manga itself seems like just ordinary fantasy stuff. Nothing about this warrants the reaction I've seen nor the labels of wha being some "woke propaganda".

>>287526983
>>287527229
TDLR she is a pro woke person who was one of the people at the UN that campaigned for content restrictions on manga

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I started watching Witch Hat Atelier and the magic reminded me of this show, how similar are their magic systems?

>>287527981
They keep saying i'm shit posting i'm fucking trying tell this and they don't listen holy fuck.

>>287527981
I've seen zero proof of the author advocating for censorship

>>287527966
>>287528038
>ok so the author acts indiscernibly from really annoying twitter moral watchdogs and openly panders to them and writes scenes attacking "problematic tropes" that twitter gets mad at in her work and is concerned about "sexualization" https://web.archive.org/web/20200811155420/https://twitter.com/shirahamakamome/status/1293031195387650048 and thinks cancel culture doesn't exist https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/239671271/#239679788 and was now picked up by a group that tried to get manga censored in the past while using clear dogwhistles for "the industry needs fixing" but trust me, she would never collaborate with people who want to regulate "harmful expression" in manga

>>287527752
She is as propalestine as UNESCO "oh look at these poor children starving, i wonder why its like this, must have been the wind"

>>287528056
>links his own post on the archive

>>287528056
>mangaka can't have opinions about fanservice etc I disagree with!

K. Still not seeing any evidence of her supporting censorship or how wha is supposedly woke propaganda. You just seem like a hysterical retard.

>>287527921
You know, you gotta be careful what you ask for.
>>287528056
So the author isn't allowed to dislike seeing scantily clad women?
Why do you want to censor her views?

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>>287528155
See, here's the thing, it isn't even that she dislikes women in scanty clothing.
She drew an entire manga where she plays dress up with a pair of super models where one usually has her tits out.
What she complained about was that this was an event with a large child audience that was giving the old perverts in the room eye candy.

>>287528155
>So the author isn't allowed to dislike seeing scantily clad women?
Where did the author say that? I only see the author (if that's the author's xitter account) about some 3D buttocks (???) at a jump event.

>>287528184
She used to draw "problematic" stuff, the exact kinda gags Witch Hat Atelier "called out". Pretty obvious her views changed.

For a boring show this gets lots of traction

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>>287528155
If this was an author really into American conservatism who associated with the kind of people who think anime is degenerate & causes transgenderism and needs to be censored, added stuff to their manga knowing that crowd would like it, complained about anime asses, then got interviewed by a conservative think tank known for trying to get "degenerate" manga regulated, would all of you be reacting the same way?

Because if so, that would be equally retarded

Where are the lewds?

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>>287526960
Manga for me

>>287528252
You may have posted this ironically, but you are actually cattle, incapable of thought, even your leaders follow those which you hate. Your existence is deeply ironic.

>>287528204
Two hot adult women in a magazine for adults is different from what she complained about.

>>287527997
The magic system in Owl House is more similar to Warhammer Fantasy though. Only the sigil magic is similar

>>287528269
>if you think buddying up with people who want to censor manga is lame you must like conservative leaders
>>287528275
Nah, she used to do "funny pervert" jokes.

>>287528196
I'm just assuming that it was a statue of some ecchi manga chick with an intentionally fat ass. As that sounds like the most likely 'thing'.
I don't know what exactly she saw that annoyed her, and google images results for 2020 Jump Fest aren't all that useful.

>>287526960
>Like yourself, more and more women have managed to make their mark in this traditionally male-dominated field.
This bothers me to no end. She know this ins't true, she sees female mangakas everyday much older than her. Why didn't she say anything? Is appeasing to westerners that important for WHA success?

>>287528310
Almost like it was probably nothing worth reasonably getting mad at if it didn't even become a prominent controversy.

>>287528295
You're seething like a critical nuclear reactor, but you have provided ZERO proof.
You're just feminized cattle outraged by social media posts with equally lacking proof.

>>287528333
see
>>287528245

>>287528331
>we don't know what it was
>aha! that proves my point!
You are retarded.

>>287528346
>see
See what? There's no content, just a meme tier post about burger politics.
>>>/pol/

>>287528352
>>287528346

>>287528364
So you can't answer because you know you're a hypocrite, gotcha.

>>287528346
>>287528365
I take it you have no actual proof, or you'd bury me in it right now for doubting your spammed thesis (which you got from being xitter cattle).
I accept your concession.

>>287528379
>So you can't answer
There was no question.
You're mad at me for not being able to provide proof I'm asking for.
Your behavior is feminine. Too much xitter.

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>this thread

>>287528380
>>287528394
I literally did >>287528056

Do you mean the stuff about the UN trying to push for manga regulation? Holy fuck google it, there's a ton of coverage.

Do you mean you don't know about the "deconstructing the funny pervert trope" scene? I thought you read the manga?

>>287528425
>>287528056
The villains in her manga are literally the Morality Police who mindwipe anyone that breaks the rules.
Do you think this speaks to a person that believes in the goodness of state power?

>>287528425
Your "proof" is one xitter post and a retweet. They're vague and literally nothing.
If she's as radical as you claim she is, surely you can produce more actual proof.

>>287528453
Are you actually discussing whether the manga is compatible to the average /pol/ ideology?
That's hilarious.

>>287528472
I never said she's radical? These are pretty mainstream views.
>>287528453
>>287528509
Funnily enough, /pol/ types claimed to be against the "morality police" while becoming the morality police themselves so that's not a great argument.

>>287527667
obviosly?

>>287527731
Gojew-sensei...

>>287526960
I don't want to think. Should I support or reject the anime?

>>287526960
I fucking hate it when hard working successful people have different opinions than me. Why can't this mangaka understand my broke-ass opinions are superior? Maybe if I spend years of my life complaining about it on a cambodian letter exchange forum she'll get the message.

>>287528638
Hisashi Eguchi (animator) made a burn against lolicons and I don't give a shit, in fact I found it funny. What do you think the difference of context here is?

Where are the fucking jannies

>>287527731
>>287527787
>Zionism is so hated now that Zionist agents have to bad-jacket their critics as Zionists
It's so fucking over for you.

>>287526960
Not really, it's just really easy to sell anything 'witchy", because women love template trend slop.

>>287528784
try liking a good pro-palestinian author like naoki urasawa next time

>>287527787
How mentally ill does one have to be to make this image?

>>287527787
pic is stupid but you're right

>>287528871
>bunch of schizo delusions
>"he is right"
He's jittering between claiming the manga is an industry plant, the author being anti fanservice or something, the author being woke, or Israel being involved with the publication of the manga.
All with zero proof.

>>287528958
I just mean the specific post's text. the is pic unfunny "wacky shitposting".

>>287529036
>the specific post's text.
So what did that post actually say? What is worse? If you remove the pic, there's no context at all.
>"wacky shitposting".
Plausible deniability by the mentally ill. They know they have no proof, so they will claim their infographics are a joke, just to seethe at muh jews in their next post.
If there was proof it'd be a different matter entirely.

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>All You Need Is Kill threads are full of "tumblrshit" accusations
>actual ridiculous tumblrshit is good

Reminder that this is all america's fault.

>>287529320
This.

>>287529320
Also you can't really say "oh shut up, Japan isn't your fairy tale land" or whatever in this case. Shirahama is the most overt "westaboo" and it's clear as day America is the reason she knows what a trigger warning is.

>>287528425
I did a little bit of searching. The first thing I found was the periodic report Japan submits because it ratified some convention on the discrimination of women. This report talks about manga, anime, and video games, but it is something Japan chose to take part in. Not really the west pushing their values on Japan. I mean the us isn’t a party to it. Japan didn’t need to be either. The second thing was something about the censorship of content involving children that manga and anime were excluded from. So not really sure what your are freaking out about

>>287529568
>Child pornography is defined in article 2 OPSC as ‘any representation of a child engaged in real or simulated explicit sexual activities, regardless of the means used, or any representation of the sexual parts of a child for primarily sexual purposes’. The qualification ‘by whatever means’ reflects the broad range of material available in a variety of media, online and offline. It includes, inter alia: visual material such as photographs, movies, drawings and cartoons; audio representations; any digital media representation; live performances; written materials in print or online; and physical objects such as sculptures, toys, or ornaments.

>The Committee urges States parties to prohibit, by law, child sexual abuse material in any form. The Committee notes that such material is increasingly circulating online, and strongly recommends States parties to ensure that relevant provisions of their Criminal Codes cover all forms of material, including when the acts listed in article 3.1(c) are committed online and including when such material represents realistic representations of non-existing children.

>drawings and cartoons

Also yeah they were excluded because there was pushback.

Why are there retards defending the mangaka? She's been utterly brainbroken by westoid politics ever since covid. Not to mention about crying about " muh /pol/ " when she herself is literally a politics schizo. The manga isn't even good anymore ever since she criticized the pervert trope or whatever

>>287529733
Because she makes good stories, retard.
You are more mindbroken here than she is. Expressing some mild and fairly mainstream opinions about certain political topics on a Twitter account and having one chapter where the villains of the story have a bit of sympathy paid to them regarding why they're villains does not a mindbreak make.
Ranting like you do, is what being mindbroken looks like.

>>287529733
Because there's no proof, only claims.
How is it an "industry plant" (what is that even)?
Where does it say Israel funded this (yes multiple posts claimed that too).

>>287528155
>So the author isn't allowed to dislike seeing scantily clad women?
yup, this is an otaku board if you believe in that sort of shit you should be shat on
>Why do you want to censor her views?
because she's retarded

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>>287529786
I think all the stereotypical Tumblr-brained stuff together is why people say that, anon.

>>287529568
It comes down to she going to the people who are trying censored manga.

>>287529844
Yeah, why does it bother you how she inked a background character?
Are you offended on behalf of people with vitiligo? That is unlikely.
For whatever reason this choice of piebald inking bothers you inherently in a way that I don't think you can cleanly justify.

>>287528155
>Why do you want to censor her views

She working with the people trying censored her fucking industry. She needs be call out for this bullshit.

>>287529879
I'm saying that if it were just one of these things no one would give a shit but it's clearly a mix that makes her "Tumblr-brained", with the UN thing being an important extra element right now

Funny how you ignored the trigger warning >>287529147 since that's the most obvious shit
>>287529808
I gave you proof >>287529677 and you ignored it

>>287529786
>Because she makes good stories, retard.
*she DID. Like I said, WHA has been gong downhill for a while now
>You are more mindbroken here than she is
Actually no, I don't spend my time on tweeting retweeting /pol/ shit. Her takes are garbage and she contributes to the worsening globalization of manga. Like she's doing an interview with fucking UNESCO where they ran propaganda about the " male dominated manga industry " lmao
>>287529808
I'm not making any statements about WHA being funded by Israel, but it's totally fair to say it's getting pushed like an industry plant with the sort of acolytes behind it

>>287529917
My brother, you need to calm down because your grasp of the English language is slipping.

>>287529922
>I gave you proof
No you didn't. I know that this happened, and I know that the manga industry as a whole prevented it.
How is that proof that the witch hat manga is an industry plant?
What the fuck are you even trying to say?

>>287529733
/leftypol/ fags have unironically begun migrating here in droves because of the complete dearth of quality western cartoons
though, this manga specifically has always been popular with tumblr because of the whole harry potter thing

>>287529973
>gets shat on because you go muh jews it's israel waaah no it was just a joke
>waaah you're leftypol
Kill yourself,. braindead xitter junky.

>>287529973
Not really, there's one schizo spammer who's been here shitting up threads since GQux but this sort of popular show that's well animated and is " prestige " will get a couple of retarded defenders here and there.

>>287529825
I mean for me it's mainly "she's allowed to have these views and I'm allowed to call her lame" but the UN shit definitely complicates things.
>>287529970
>How is that proof that the witch hat manga is an industry plant?
I never said she's an industry plant and in fact said it's wrong to call it one in my very first post. I gave that as proof that someone with lame views is being used by people who tried to push said lame views in the past to get stuff censored.

>>287529964
>pro free speech
>anti gun control (since magic can be used as weapon)
Wow so woke.

>>287529733
>The manga isn't even good anymore ever since she criticized the pervert trope or whatever
yea what a shame since I liked the earlier parts.
art really is a reflection of the creator's SOUL. her soul is tainted now.

>>287529989
Multiple authors who get into the US comics industry will end up developing these views >>287529825 and this author is definitely one of them.
>>287530025
>overreading metaphors
She'd never make an anti gun control statement and you know it. Maybe she would if she were an oldschool Japanese leftist but she's clearly not!

>The protagonist is an ordinary girl who does not possess magic, but who longs to become a magic user. Through a certain incident, she encounters a magic user, enters the world of magic, and gradually begins to uncover its secrets.
>This is a story about possibility. Even a child without special inborn abilities can become a magic user. That framework is central to the story, but so is the emotional idea behind it: the possibility that someone who seems ordinary, or who feels excluded from a world of talent, may still find a way into it.
yeah that's a hard pass

>>287529922
First you'd have to explain to me what makes being 'Tumblrbrained' verboten and what kind of world view do you think is better without just shoving your personal biases in my lap.
I love Dungeon Meshi, and that author ran a Tumblr blog for years, so I'm hardly quaking at the potential that Shirahama has Tumblr-type influence.
So if she has a fascination with depicting people with skin conditions or different sexual orientations, it doesn't mean much to me and doesn't offend me. A trigger warning is tacky, but the chapter's content was good, so it doesn't bother me.

The UN recommending childporn laws that could potentially effect anime and manga doesn't mean much to me because the UN is not an organization that has power to compel action, and it is also a massive umbrella organization that covers a thousand topics.
The people running UNESCO aren't the ones drawing up legal charters. Their reason to exist is for the sake of stirring up attention to the arts.
>https://courier.unesco.org/en/culture
The UNESCO culture magazine is not a haven of propaganda to convince you to censor everything that they hate. The topics and headlines are National Geographic tier.

>>287529917
You retarded nigger, the Un has literally zero power to censor anything

>>287529994
>implying i'm him
appeal to samefag is always an admission of loss

>>287529936
The Festival Arc of WHA was overly long and borderline a Namek, but it wrapped up well and the character development for Coco and Qifrey made the experience more than worth it.
One oversized and clumsy arc is not 'going down hill', lol.

>>287530087
Been working with New Japan Women's Association to petition to remove "problematic" manga from stores. Pay attention

>>287530102
Him what? I didn't appeal to anything, I was just shitting on your bullshit.

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>>287529964
Based and Pravin Lal pilled

/a/ loves industry plants though. Like Fujimoto.

>>287530107
And that gives the Un at sovereignty over what gets censored how?

>>287530140
kek this reads like an indian trying to sound snooty
it also has the air of a very feminine person

>>287530156
Fujimoto is absolutely an example of an attempted plant that almost made it and then flopped.

>>287530083
>using a Tumblr is the same as being "Tumblr-brained"
You're being disingenuous as hell because you clearly know what I meant. Kui is not remotely comparable.
>The UNESCO culture magazine is not a haven of propaganda to convince you to censor everything that they hate. The topics and headlines are National Geographic tier.
Damn maybe they shouldn't have been disingenuous dipshits about female authors being a rarity in Japan then, a clear dogwhistle for "the industry needs progressive input to improve".
>>287530173
Damn you didn't even try to deny it.

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>>287530083
> UN is not an organization that has power to compel action, and it is also a massive umbrella organization that covers a thousand topics.
>>287530087
It took like one google search and there's obviously associated feminist NGOs and such like PAPS

>>287530177
I'm not OP, who acts like a hysteric female trying to convince her sisters of shaming the author.

>>287530209
>get it I defend embarrassing Tumblr shit but I say RACIAL SLURS and attack WOMEN like they do on the 4chins!

>>287530204
https://posfie.com/@wvwwwwwwwwwwvw/p/Xciyf0Q

a sex-positive japanese feminist was one of the main people highlighting this controversy by the way so you don't get to scream /pol/

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frieren burning some witchs.

>>287530204
Those are national organisation's in Japan you fucking retarded histrionic dipshit. They aren't arms of Un. Again, the Un has zero power over what gets censored anywhere, it's a toothless organization that lacks sovereignty over any member nation.

>>287530199
>kui isn't tumblr brained
>diverse body types
>diverse skin colors
>intentionally unconventually attractive male and female characters
>disabled characters
>mental illness being a major part of several characters' backstories
>subversive and genresavvy writing
>statements made about sex and gender roles
Just because Dungeon Meshi is good, doesn't mean that it isn't a product of the cultural stew of Tumblr.
This is not a bad thing. Good art can come from anywhere and any combination of influences.
So Witch Hat Atelier having similar influences is not a problem for me.

Female authors not being rare and the industry not being male dominated are not the same thing.
You can have many female authors and have an industry that is dominated at the leadership level by men that dictate publishing trends or what is allowed in magazines.
This is a well known phenomena if you are into Shojo or Josei manga, where that type of editorial and executive control heavily shaped the genre up until recently.

>>287530253
The UN funds and works with those domestic organizations anon. They run puff pieces and lobby governments. This isn't particularly complex or even a conspiracy. UN soft power is very real and increasingly so in a globalized world

>>287529677
>they were excluded because there was pushback
Cool so people made arguments in favor of not censoring anime and manga and they responded by seemingly accepting those arguments and excluding anime and manga. Sounds good

>>287530288
And this was pointed out several times, which makes it even funnier that OP calls this an industry plant.

>>287530253
>histrionic
projection

>>287530302
I'm not the one claiming that a Manga about a little girl becoming a witch is woke propaganda pushed by Un.

>>287530302
>content-less trash post in response to facts
Why don't you just post "downvoted" or something. That would be more honest.

>>287530252
https://www.un.org/sustainabledevelopment/sdg-media-compact-members/
>SHOGAKUKAN Inc. Japan
Frieren is also owned by the UN.

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>>287530269
They clearly weren't talking about editors.
>all that shit about Dungeon Meshi
Did you just memory-hole the Kui interview where the interviewer tried to project all the shit you guys view as "woke" onto the manga & make her talk about it and it didn't really work? Like for example
>intentionally unconventually attractive male and female characters
The "sexy fanservice male dwarf that reframes beauty standards" was meant to be silly and inspired by a gross-but-funny old man neighbor she had.

Not to mention there are plenty of overtly liberal & leftists author who don't behave like obnoxious Tumblr children from 2013.
>>287530288
>>287530300
see>>287530249

>>287530319
If there's anything that can be called " woke propaganda " in anime WHA definitely gets the closest when you factor in the authors views lol. There's left-wing mangaka, she's just a particular boring covid reiwa one

>>287530319
i haven't seen anyone claim that exact thought in this thread either

>>287530330
Hey retard did the UN do a feature on Frieren while going on about the "male-driven manga industry"? They actually could have, given the artist is female, but they didn't. Wonder why, almost like open ideology plays a role here.

>>287530376
What in particular is "woke" about wha?

>>287530376
Fujio Akatsuka donated to the freaking Japanese Red Army and there's nothing Tumblry about his work; in fact he caused a controversy for "ableism" in his manga. Almost like there's a difference between leftism, even radical forms of it, and being a lame pronouned up smol bean.

>>287530365
They weren't clearly talking about anything.
Today there is nothing rare about being an actress, but Hollywood is still obviously male dominated at the directorial and production levels and above.

Joking panty shots for Senshi are still political statements about trends in anime sex appeal habits.
To make a joke about those or to set up thirst trap cover pages with him is a statement about sexualization in anime and the joke is that instead of it being a bombshell elf-girl, it is instead a rotund little dwarf man with (for Japan) unconventionally attractive facial features.
When you look in Kui's artbooks, things like Laius's body shape are intentionally not idealized and he instead looks like a football player with a layer of body fat rather than a traditional anime ikemen. This is not accidental, she was obviously making a statement about beauty standards because Kui is more than capable of drawing a traditional ikemen character. The same goes for Marcille's modest looks in comparison to both other elves and the beautiful humans that Kui has drawn.

Dungeon Meshi is obviously heavily influenced by the Tumblr atmosphere Kui was familiar with.
That is not a bad thing, as I said before. I'm not a child that is bothered by acknowledging the cultural context that created works I enjoy. Even if some dickhead on 4chan would call those cringey.

>>287530365
My post is in response to the censorship of material including children. That post from a SEX POSITIVE FEMINIST is about something completely different

Dungeon meshi has the most tumblr looking character designs I’ve ever seen in a manga. Especially young senshi

>>287530496
This. Dungeon Meshi is as woke as manga gets; if you don't realize Senshi is a critique of sexualization tropes and beauty standards you're dumb as fuck.

>>287530496
>Joking panty shots for Senshi are still political statements about trends in anime sex appeal habits.
It's just 40 years old thinking it's funny. Real people don't live thinking /pol/ shit 24/7, it's unsustainable

>>287530735
It is funny because of the contrast. The contrast against the norm is what makes it funny. Otherwise there wouldn't be a joke. And why she decided to make that joke leads back to a specific source.
The women in Dungeon Meshi are noticeably rarely sexualized unless they're femme fatales.

>>287530663
>Implying /pol/shitters read manga
Dungeon Meshi would drive them up the wall if they touched it outside of engaging with Xitter memes to pretend they're real fans.

So how does the author feel about the fact people will draw and use ai to depict her girls getting brutally fucked and absolutely destroyed sexually in every way imaginable?

She's a legitimately talented artist so to convince me she's a plant you'd have to get conspiratorial about how she doesn't draw at all and she's just a twatter mouthpiece.
I hate the manga and what it stands for (those are two separate things in my book) for what it's worth.

She's not a "plant" her politics are just cringe.

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>>287530496
>Joking panty shots for Senshi are still political statements about trends in anime sex appeal habits.
>she was obviously making a statement about beauty standards
Holy crap, you are unhinged and no different from people who think K-On is about "spiritually right wing and about a peaceful high-trust world without filthy minorities" or whatever.
>Dungeon Meshi is obviously heavily influenced by the Tumblr atmosphere Kui was familiar with.
Except she had a Tumblr account to post art, she didn't take part in the specific culture stereotypically associated with "Tumblrshit" the way Kamome did.

Yes she clearly has a fascination with varied body types. You're the one projecting the political statements. Do you think skilled artists outside of Tumblr don't spend years drawing from life, which naturally includes figures not considered traditionally attractive? Do you think Tumblr politics are the only reason to go beyond typical "hot anime guy/girl" idealization?

But fine, think of it this way: if she had all these things in mind when drawing and was so ideology-driven, she would have clearly picked up on what that interviewer was getting at. Instead? Not even a "hey, if that makes you feel seen then I encourage your reading", just complete oblivious responses like "oh nah these characters aren't a gay couple, no this guy ain't autistic, no this is just a goofy old man". Not even in a slightly passive-aggressive way like Kei Urana responding to "headcanons", just a completely neutral "hmm nah I didn't have that in mind at all".

The one decent WHA thread was only about the manga why has everything since been /pol/luted minded schizophrenics why can’t you just post not Gojo fucking his loli harem

>>287530663
I came out of the manga having liked it and wanting to fuck falin some people just interact with too much /pol/ shit cause that shit never crossed my mind

Post good loli

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>>287526960
You have no idea what an industry plant is. WHA has had years of buildup preceeding the anime announcement. If any anime is an industry plant, it's the Yuusha-kei show from last season. A noname light novel with no fanbase suddenly gets an adaptation with comparisons to Mushoku Tensei as far as aesthetics. And it already has a season 2 announced.

>>287531094
She get her way they will ban loli.

>>287530899
>>287531103
I mean, we know she used to make the kind of jokes she now thinks are "problematic". Obviously she's a real person with a real artistic history and not made in a test tube by the woke illuminati or whatever. She's a very skilled artist. She also spent too much time on Twitter and developed a goofy-ass virtue signaling attitude that make her prime material for a UN group that will say dumb shit like "more and more women have managed to make their mark in this traditionally male-dominated field" (in 2026)

>>287531103
>one of the few anime in recent years to brutalize butcher and beat the shit into kids
I dont think thats how an industry plant works. You cant even kill kids in cyberpunk 2077 thats how sanitized the media sphere is

>>287530963
Kui wasn't oblivious to things like the interviewer asking her about Laius being autistic and weird, she answered that she didn't consider him to be that in specific and instead just wrote him merely as a man who didn't fit in with the world.
>KUI: So my understanding is Laios is a really normal person; there's nothing special, and everyone can relate [to a person like him]. I also relate to him, so I don't think I'm writing anything special [regarding Laios]. That's why I think people can relate to or appreciate him. Some people might say Laios is a little bit autistic, but Shuro has his own difficulties.
>Everyone has their individual problems. It's not just Laios or Shuro; the problems are mutual. We always need to try to understand and learn from each other. Sometimes, you might hurt another person, but that's the process we need to understand other people.

This isn't her being oblivious to the concept or intentionally owning the libs with her replies. It is her saying that Laius wasn't meant to be pigeonholed into just the autistic weirdo, but was intended to be relatable to everyone as an odd duck that didn't always understand what everyone was talking about.

The aesthetics and the visual language of Dungeon Meshi are obviously influenced by Tumblr fantasy and art trends. You don't get that level of physical diversity by accident. She was pushing herself to come up with as many distinct types of people as she could and going by her artbooks, that is something she's proud of.
And the types of jokes she made for the physical comedy, like joking panty shots and comedic sex appeal for Senshi were part of that. We see this as well with some of the intentional yaoi manga visual imagery used for Kabru and Mithrun's gags. What is funny in her work is funny because of what it references or how it subverts normal manga tropes.

>>287531103
Nah, thats just a passion project that became successful. Yuusha kuzu was shit and has no fanbase overlap with kei despite the same source material author.

>>287531168
Yuusha kei threads had kuzu fans doebeit though I havent seen the yuusha kuzu myself beyond the first episode

>>287531225
They were trying to shill their dogshit, still did not watch.

>>287531144
How do you know that she would find the jokes she used to make in eniale and dewiela problematic today?

>>287531162
See anon, these views are what people view as "Tumblrshit". Not simply supporting Palestine or leaning left.
>You don't get that level of physical diversity by accident
Again, Tumblr did not invent body variety and it's deranged to think that. Was The Maxx inspired by Tumblr?
>And the types of jokes she made for the physical comedy, like joking panty shots and comedic sex appeal for Senshi were part of that.
Hiromu Arakawa made a "lol old lady anti-fanservice" joke before Tumblr even existed. Was that a "political statement about trends in anime sex appeal habits"? You are mentally ill.
>What is funny in her work is funny because of what it references or how it subverts normal manga tropes.
This is just TVTropes/Youtube essayist brain poison on par with "Panty & Stocking are characterized like that to satirize/attack moeshit" when 1. that's just the taste of guys like Imaishi & Wakabayashi and 2. guys like Sushio & Nishigori are, in fact, moeshitters.

If I said an edgelord mangaka who likes gore and rape was doing it to "trigger the SJWs" you'd rightfully call me a retard. You have a very specifically Americanized evangelizing attitude to media analysis where "everything that goes against trends exists to proselytize people away from said trends, which are harmful".

>>287526960
So is OP lying or not, because to any third party what he's saying seems about right.

>>287531402
She's not a "plant", the anime's been in development for a good while and people liked her work before she gained her current retarded Twitter views, but she did gain them still and that's clearly why the UN chose to focus on her and bring up gendered subjects in the interview.

>>287531402
No i'm not lying. I'm pissed she did this bullshit i was planning on to reading the manga after she pull this shit hell no.

Why is anybody talking about Yuusha Kei in this topic? An anime almost nobody watched and only recently got a shoutout from certain content creators, compare this to WHA that has every single anituber talking about it even before it even started, Yuusha Kei is more similar to Frieren, both shows were basically non-existent until after the anime started.

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>>287531322
People looking weird and the specific type of presentation that Dungeon Meshi uses are different things.
Frank Miller has made many weird looking golems over his career and he's as far from Tumblr as you get. But when you see a painting by a Tumblr-influenced artist, you know what you're looking at. Like this one depicting various halflings with skin conditions drawn by Kui and posted on her Tumblr blog.

There is very little about Tumblr's culture that was new. Just like most of 4chan culture comes from pre-existing trends.
But the synthesis of it together is what made it unique. It isn't just, "haha, lady makes jokes about how awkward drawing a sexy woman is for her", it is the deliberate subversion of it into a joke about a man who while not conventionally attractive, is still drawn carefully to have sexually appealing features and that is acknowledged in the world. And this coming in parallel to a setting where women are rarely treated as sexual beings.
Tumblr didn't invent writing about mental illnesses, but including one character who is a depressed drug addict coping with her anhedonia, one a man with body dysmorphia, another woman who uses make up culture to obscure her hatred of her face, etc., in the way that she did the influence her social media use had is more and more obvious. It isn't a Palahniuk novel where the point is that everyone is part of freak show, but instead a naturalized and sympathetic depiction that is there for representation purposes.

There are mangaka that deliberately write stuff to trigger leftists in Japan.
If you claimed that for a specific one and gave some reasoning, I wouldn't oppose it.
Something like Creature Girls is intentionally written by its writer to trigger leftists with the text's contents like a mouthpiece female character talking about the wonders of rape.

>>287526960
>>287526983
>>287527122
I guess I won't be reading this work. Thank you OP. I absolutely refuse to support authors like this.

>>287531402
Why would an industry plant need to wait 10 years before their manga is animated? This series wasn't even getting reliable English translations for a while either. The series' success is organic, just in a way that some people on /a/ don't like.

I don't give a shit about the author's political views
I don't give a shit about the UN
I don't give a shit about eceleb shilling
I don't give a shit about culture warriors on Twitter
If you do then FUCK OFF

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>>287529733
Gotta add some light to the darkness, I guess

>>287531654
>I don't give a shit which his why I'm angrily all-capsing

>>287531563
That looks more like a 'what if people had the same coloring cats do' kind of pic

Idk the one or two non shitpost OP wha threads Ive been in enjoyed the manga though admittedly saying experiencing one of the arcs at the time whilst being a monthly manga was a genuine slog

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>>287531654
It's not about that she sided with the un the most retarded thing she could do.

>>287531589
Your welcome.

>>287531667
What I give a shit about is you faggots bringing your culture war here instead of talking about ANIME AND MANGA on the ANIME AND MANGA board

>>287531563
No one ever had "empathy for outsiders and minorities" as a theme in their work before Tumblr, you're right. Holy fuck man have you ever read a Tezuka manga? Is Princess Mononoke Tumblr? That was straight up a trend in Japan in the 90s and it didn't result in the kind of annoying "Tumblrisms" we have now and instead resulted in cool shit like Cowboy Bebop.

I'd be willing to accept "maybe she took some inspiration from 2010s online progressives without dedicating herself to virtue signaling over it or getting super deep into the culture" if you showed me some sort of evidence remotely akin to what we have for Shirahama. When I followed her Tumblr it was the most "just using this to post art" shit imaginable. However, I would still think
>Joking panty shots for Senshi are still political statements about trends in anime sex appeal habits.
is pure delusion. The character is not "drawn carefully to have sexually appealing features", he is based on a funny gross old neighbor the author had who went out in his underwear. If she cared so much about "Tumblr politics" would she have said that instead of "YAS QWEEN SLAY ALL BODIES ARE BEAUTIFUL"? Kind of a problematic response (along with the others) if she had that ideological focus!
>>287529733
Some people in this thread legit have the same views, (or stupider) but I think for others it's a matter of "my brain already categorized this person as really cool before they developed or came clean about these views, and I don't wanna let go" and/or "those views suddenly appear reasonable because they come from an artist I like".
>>287531543
>every single anituber
Of course WHA fans follow "every single anituber"...
>>287531435
You gotta drop the "industry plant" meme, ESL-kun. Leaves you so open to "um actually"-ing.

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>>287531746
The author cares about Twitter culture war shit and it shows in the manga! Too bad!

I think Ill try reading the source material than listening to the esl who cried wolf since Im enjoying the anime and enjoyed dungeon meshi to then go straight into its manga til completion, saga of Tanya the evil author is apparently an advocate for communism yet I still enjoyed the anime and the movie so who gives a shit what an authors political views are unless they shit it out into their work

>>287531765
And buronson is an insane nationalist and it’s shows in his manga. If the manga is good then who cares. I’ll read BEGIN and I’ll read wha

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>>287531781
>saga of Tanya the evil author is apparently an advocate for communism
He's not retard, he was doing military otaku role-playing on social media and his actual views are pretty basic (even "problematic" by obsessive left-wing standards). Here's /leftypol/ bragging about gaslighting people into thinking he's a communist in a thread addressing his "questionable" views. Wonder if one of these guys is in this thread?
>>287531811
I don't think a discussion about his views would be out-of-place at all, either, given he made them a significant part of his later manga. Bringing them up in a Hokuto thread, sure that would be stupid since they're irrelevant to that series. No one's making you read this thread specifically about an author's worldviews.

>>287529879
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>>287530083
>>287530087
Yeah. I was half-joking before, but this thread really does glow. lol wow.

How does her and Urana complimenting each other's manga seem to you guys?

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>>287531745
If you can't identify the stylistic differences between Tezuka's progressivism and the type that appeared on Tumblr in the 21st century, you're just being obstinate.

One big thing is the intention to depict diversity in a more naturalistic sense, which Kui's artwork reflects.
Tezuka drew everyone as some kind of weird caricature. Even his more serious works like Message to Adolf or MW feature heavily stylized artwork that isn't meant to look like a real person. The cartoon aspect is the most important one. Because the purpose of a character design isn't to depict a person, but a cartoon being that primarily is a rubber body to distort depict emotion.
Things like this are what separate Tezuka's 60s era progressivism from modern Tumblr influenced progressivism. What you're focusing on in the process of depicting progressive ideas. Tezuka was interested in the emotional shock, where he was aiming to shake up the status quo by depicting controversial things like racial violence, pollution, economic violence, gender role rejection, etc., but aesthetically he didn't care to draw people as people either way.

Kui's artwork isn't photorealistic, but her art is designed to depict real people in a way that lets you see the individuals and imagine what they'd look like IRL. This follows a large focus of Tumblr influenced artists which is to depict the human race in all shapes, sizes, and colors, as a way of fighting beauty standards and racial supremicism.
The naturalism is part of the aesthetic. Where the goal is to draw as many types of humans as you can and include them in your works. And for them to feel human.
The point isn't to just grandstand a political stance, but the depiction of the ethnic and bodily diversity of humanity in a grounded manner is the praxis itself.

Any discussion of this shitty series is officially dead. You can go to reddit I guess.

>>287531878
This board is for discussing manga and anime. Why does the authors world views matter here? Why do there need to be threads discussing them?

>>287529879
You're an actual sheep with an empty mind.

>>287531860
This cannot be… I was lied to… though admittedly it was a libertarian who told me through the cord

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Why was Frieren able to escape this shitty argument?

>>287531878
I think is just pedos who just want to enjoy pairing little girls with each others like little retards. I doubt they are mentally mature enough to have an actual political opinion.

>>287532002
OP is the Full Metal schizo too so he's pro Frieren because it topped FMA on MAL.

>>287532002
By virtue of being a better show and not having a hack of an author.

>>287532002
Hype moments with aura though didnt frieren also have some fanservice so maybe its that since wha apparently doesnt have any fanservice at all

>>287532032
Only fanservice for fujos and trannies

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>thread's been alive for like 6 hours
>210 posts of pure slop
okay, I'm getting a clearer picture of why this series is difficult to talk about here

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>>287531932
>Things like this are what separate Tezuka's 60s era progressivism from modern Tumblr influenced progressivism.
I think there's also the fact that Tezuka's progressivism wasn't obnoxious. But neither is Kui's.
>Tezuka drew everyone as some kind of weird caricature. Even his more serious works like Message to Adolf or MW feature heavily stylized artwork that isn't meant to look like a real person. The cartoon aspect is the most important one. Because the purpose of a character design isn't to depict a person, but a cartoon being that primarily is a rubber body to distort depict emotion.
Christ, how can you read MESSAGE TO ADOLF of all things and think that about Tezuka's art? The very definition "caricature" means cartooning that exaggerates reality. It's not "a drawing of a drawing of a cat" the way Hello Kitty is (though admittedly other Tezuka designs are closer to that); it's based in deforming with reality as the basis. Which Adolf largely focused on. The significant difference here is that Dungeon Meshi's art is relatively more realistic and anatomical, but both are in a similar stylization ballpark - not the same, but similar.

I will admit Tezuka sometimes drew black people in a very unobservant "blackface autopilot" way but I think that was because no one ever properly explained to him why that aesthetic was considered offensive like someone did to Ishinomori in the 80s (IIRC the Kimba localizers tried but 1. it was badly worded 2. those people were lunatics who wanted him to give Kimba pants)

>The point isn't to just grandstand a political stance, but the depiction of the ethnic and bodily diversity of humanity in a grounded manner is the praxis itself.

You've still yet to provide any evidence she was significantly involved in this culture.

I will Shrimply hope cunnyfags and by extension artists latch on the series and drown out the fujos and trannies with cunny art this is the 3rd or 4th muh wha mangaka politics thread Ive been through and assume the next episode will be the same

>>287532069
A solid 70% of WHA threads are now one spammer. Mods don't care.

>>287532069
Because it was made for brainlets like you?

>>287532086
You're either retarded or schizophrenic

>
But most wha threads have talked more about /pol/shit than the anime. its as if majority of posters dont care about the anime and only exist to shit stir and shitpost like an indian

>>287526983
troonslop apologist.

>>287532121
its as if the anime is shit so no one cares

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>>287532086
In a way it's fascinating to see one guy just completely shit blood over an innocuous show. I mean I've hated series that were popular on /a/ before but I didn't have a sustained multi-weeks meltdown over it to the point I'd scrounge twitter for interviews with the mangaka.

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>>287531979
Also
>unless they shit it out into their work
It wouldn't matter if Carlo Zen advocated communism (Horus Prince of the Sun advocates communism & it's amazing) but "Witch Hat Atelier DESTROYS problematic 'zany pervert' trope!" is social media bullshit leaking into manga.

The view that "annoying woke stuff" is when a story says racism is bad or an author has left-wing fiscal views is retarded by design, benefitting both culture war extremes. Anyone who's not /pol/ is really thinking of "the kind of progressivism that became mainstream on 2010s social media".

>>287532133
I never saw a complaint with a screenshot from the episode so it’s like they didnt even watch it. Curious isnt it rajeesh

>>287532127
The dumb troon is spamming his pedo lesbians art. Is not like he has anyone else to discuss the series than himself.

Honestly the people who seethe about this manga/anime seem completely demented to me. From everything I've seen about it, it seems completely stock standard and tame, but well drawn series.

>>287532157
Watching the show makes you retarded, judging by how its apologist behave

>>287532148
He does this all the time. CITY and PSG is the most recent I've seen him sperg out over, but he did the same to Meshi and a lot of others. I don't think he actually hates the anime he spams. He just likes ruining threads.

>>287531402
The industry plant claims are truly tarded when you realise that people have been glazing the manga online since COVID. The fact that even the most normie of banwagonner anitubers like Gigguk were making videos back in 2023/2024 long before the anime came out probably helped with generating WOM too. If it were truly an industry plant, nobody but UNESCO would be pushing it hard but as we can see that's not the case.

>>287526960
Sticking my crack dumplings in Aka Kaguya-style with a side of orange chicken and some egg rolls and some teriyaki glazed marinara over easy on that shit you fucking never knew anything but she'll tell ya - you for real? You're all chucky the cheese jokers.
Niggas need to bow down to the one true greatest series of all time - Sekirei. All these fake ass harems in the last 16 years, but you're not living a real imaginary life unless you want to fuck 8 alien hags some twins and maybe a loli for you pedos but hey the pedos are the ones with money and control now.
I'm getting jiggy with it watching rias's tits jiggle on a booru and if you aren't getting jiggy with her or akeno or xenovia you are such a massive faggot holy shit just neck yourself like eren.
Anyways here's the seasonals:
Re:Zero - You're an itoddler if you still watch this
Classroom of the Elite - You're the biggest schizo psychopath ITT if you still watch this - BF Skinner would be proud
Slime-kun - Tranny slopaganda
Yomi no tsugai - Another bones literally who action show but it might be good
Marriagetoxin - Tranny slopaganda (good)
Liar Game - Has there ever been a good two-word show with GAME in the title
Kanan-sama - wife
Yowa Yowa Sensei - Pull it together brains base

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>>287532187
>I will form an opinion merely based on hearsay than actually go into the series and form my own opinion
You are literally a retarded sheep

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>>287532105
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>>287532187
>>287532162
you know you're not supposed to be this obvious when you samefag

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>>287532193
Wait, OP is the same retard that seethed about Dungeon Meshi?

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Pat Richeh

>>287532209
Coco a cute!

>>287526960
the manga went super woke real quick. It's a huge hit with the reddit crowd so there's no point in shit talking it. just drop the series like i did. Pretty sad because it started good, then the niggers showed up, then the faggot leader showed up, then the girl bosses showed up, then it became a battle manga. it just went to complete shit so fast. i couldn't believe it.

>>287532207
I form my opinion based on facts. And you being a mentally ill retard is a fact.

>>287532199
Agott is perfect for molestation.

>>287532207
>bro you need to read George Akiyama's "An Introduction to China: A Study of Our Bothersome Neighbors" to know that maybe it has lame shit in it

>>287532250
>and its a fact that I didnt watch the anime and am shitposting
Saar…

>>287532220
Not OP but Dungeon Meshi isn't woke like this sloppy crap

>>287532270
I have seen zero arguments or evidence to back the claim that WHA is somehow "woke".

>>287532199
>>287532256
WHA fans aren't pedos, guys I swear

>>287532284
Uhhhh it has a two guys in one house and 4 lolis who are classmates

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>>287532290
>bitching about muh pedos on /a/

>>287532284
>trigger warning, "wacky pervert trope is problematic" scene, vitiligo
>"no this all couldn't possibly be attached to a set of beliefs the author very openly ascribes to"

>>287532284
Read the thead and try to think outside of your little bubble. It literally has vitiligo, hijabs and a fucking trigger warning.

>>287532002
Frieren doesn't have authors who partake in western Twitter culture and put elements of that in their work. It does have far-right fans who think it's about how you should kill immigrants in real life and they are retarded.
>>287532194
Again why do you guys know what someone named "Gigguk" makes videos about

>>287532343
He's a useful barometer for gauging the baseline normie mainstream opinion. You can tell when a series mad with big if you see his thumbnails clogging up your YT front page (i.e. Mushoku, Frieren, Takopi, WHA etc..). That's atypical for industry plants as they are usually pushed by corpos & media outlets as opposed to sloptubers. See every Manwha adaptation ever

Fuck off, no one cares

>>287532538
I do

>>287532538
You should care.

Post wokehats

>>287532521
>incest cunny guy
Hes surrounded by normal fags but hes merely larping as one his wife could arguably shitpost /here/. normie meter is looking at anything the Brit cuck likes

Say whatever you want but I see the UNESCO logo tied to anything and I immediately raise an eyebrow.

I dont even know what the fuck a unesco is bring your polshit to /pol/

It is funny how fucking schizoid people are about UN as if that organization actually holds any fucking power at all.
Even the fucking EU is more powerful political entity than the fucking UN.

>>287532538
I do

>>287532608
This is like when people say "trad retards who want to censor anime don't matter because the other side has more influence". No, I'm pretty sure the impact of noteworthy groups of people (whether organizational or purely ideological) wanting to censor anime adds to the threat of anime being censored.

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>>287532242
A CUTE!

>>287532220
Op here I like Dungeon Meshi.

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>wanted to do storytime threads after the anime finishes
>we're gonna have to deal with a human shitstain flooding the thread
it won't deter me but it is depressing

>>287532080
>author actively appeals to demographic
>"man we gotta scare that demographic off"