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>Walks in
>rekts your whole tree of life
How many more branches of life are there we dont know about?
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>>5098908
we aren’t even sure of what exact species humans evolved from other than it being related to the one chimpanzees evolved from, or how, where, and why it became human over time. no sure bet human ancestor has ever been found, only potential offshoots and cousins that fit the stereotype of progressive evolution. none explain our distinct-among-monke adaptations that are only found in marine mammals and mammals with marine ancestors.
if man can not know himself there could be dozens if not hundreds of branches of life he is too ignorant and dumb to even guess at and paleontology as you know it is hilariously incomplete.
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https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/41564173/
>This finding casts doubt upon the fungal affinity of Prototaxites, instead suggesting that this enigmatic organism is best assigned to an entirely extinct eukaryotic lineage.
Groovy. But something mycologists would best understand.
So I imagine Prototaxites are a sister lineage to animalia and fungi in the Opisthokonta? Perhaps some extant relatives still but undetected.
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>>5100597
he's probably mostly talking about the blubber-form fat we build up, which I think evolved to protect the abdominal wall from being punctured with sharp sticks. Whoever our ancestors were, they stabbed other too. The lack of body hair is another thing, which I don't have an explanation for. One thing the aquatic ape theory has in its favor is the reproductive organs that work underwater, for intact males at least. I think we're more buoyant than any of the great apes too, we can escape bigger stronger monkeys by swimming.
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>>5100639
>fat
Most common in wh*tes and least developed in subsaharan africans because its an insulation and energy storage trait developed after we lost the hair thing to be pursuit hunters. Body hair also correlates with climate in most cases. Plus there are many aquatic and semiaquatic mammals that are very dense like hippos or those southeast asian islanders who dive for pearls all day. needing fat for bouyancy is only really a factor if you swim long distance which doesnt help you get food and most humans will never need to do. You cant even escape predators that way because almost all carnivorans willing to take a swing at a protohuman will happily swim after you. You arent outpacing a tiger or bear.
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Protaxites were the last member of the Gaboniota family before their final extinction.
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>>5100639
Sweating as a direct function for better heat regulation has not been debunked, and neither has fat as a storage for going long periods without food. Apes spend much more of the day eating and grazing, do not travel anywhere as far and wide as hominids, and can digest more readily available foods like plants and such.
Humans needed nutrient dense fats and organs, we got those from hunting and stalking, following herds and having a brain that required lots of energy that couldn't always be met. People in colder climates have more fat deposits, especially in areas exposed to the elements, such as Inuit having frost bite resistance due to their facial fat pockets.
Also, our reproductive organs do not function as well underwater, as water is NOT a lubricant and actively impedes sex as it washes away vaginal moisture, as well as increasingly liklihood of infection by a significant amount.
Aquatic ape 'theory' is retarded shit.
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>>5098908
It isn't touted as much because they're mostly microscopic but we've discovered dozens of new phyla or higher clades in the past 2 decades.
Most people have never seen this. The clade the arrow is pointing to includes all animals and fungi and some related "protists", prototaxites probably still fell into that branch even if they were not fungi. Proper plants and green/red algae are in that "archaeplastida" clade. Everything else is shit that's technically not animal, fungi or plant (nor bacteria, archea or virus for that matter)
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>>5107679
Of course I forgot my pic.
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>>5107777
Yes, if mistakes like the renaissance, reformation, invention and spread of the printing press enlightenment and the industrial revolution never happened we'd live in a much less degenerate and unnatural world. 99% of "people" shouldn't be allowed to have any impact more lasting than the fields they plow.
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