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My blue tongue woke up today, I hope for good this time. He's been sleeping underground for months, broken up into 2 week stretches.

Thoughts on multi species vivariums?

>>5108608
generally only acceptable if those 'other species' are microfauna.

>>5108608
obviously requires something larger than you'd keep either species in on its own, but pretty much everything else depends on what species are being cohabbed, which varies between "they're usually found together in the wild anyway" to "one will almost certainly immediately eat the other."

>>5108608
If the point is the challenge in making something large enough and suitable to house both in an effective way then yes i guess. However, multi-species is most commonly desired by people who think combining two or more will result in some sort of greater interaction potential in a social dynamic sort of way. Like if you were to raise a dog and cat together there would be some friendship or something extra there. This does not happen with reptiles. For reptiles they either completely ignore each other or they kill each other, those are the two options. For this reason it's strongly recommended, if you desire two different species, to house them separately. You can put the tanks side by side and have both right there without the possibility that you find one dead in the morning.

>>5108608
I heard dart frogs benefit from cohabitation with mourning geckos

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>>5108725
yeah they benefit from it for sure

>>5108801
Frogs will eat literally anything that moves.
Back in the 80s, my parents had a couple of separate aquariums - frogs next to fish. They were both left without a secure lid at one point and the frogs were very well-fed for a day and the fish were mysteriously all missing thereafter.

>>5108801
how the hell is it gonna swallow that whole lizard.

>>5108828
that isnt a thought that occurs to a frog when it tries to eat something.

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kek, my dad is friends with this guy

>>5109015
Is that a lizard pretending to be a snake?

Morphmarket needs better filters so I can get rid of the hundreds of ball python ads

>>5109264
They have a filter exactly for that, though.
Search under "Category - excluded categories". You can even multi-select this field, so you can dodge the crested geckos, etc. as well.

>Had ackie for a year
>Got him as a complete feral demon
>Now he can be pet without issue
>Still can't hold or take him out withit issue
>He especially hates anything cloth, blanket, pillow, towel, socks, pants and shirts he will go full pit bull jaw lock and death roll
>Decide to just say fuck it and clear my bed
>Put him out on the top and let him twitch and spin in cricles
>Starts nipping his hands or tail but doesn't latch or break skin
>Past 3 days went fine, notice him being less twitchy already
>Except now he's breaking skin
>Bit his own fingers and now there's some blood, not alot but he cut it
>Bit his tail and tried to to an oroborous death roll
I don't know what to do. I love him, but he's such a fucking pain in the ass in all aspects. Eats alot, shit's alot, constantly bites my hand and fucks my fingers up from hunger strikes because he's so retarded. I will hav a torach on the tongs and he will go under the tounges and bit my hand. Or he will jump out of his enclosure when I open it and leap onto my shirt and start death rolling.
But when he knowns it's me petting him like I put my hand in and stroke him he's fine with it.
But he's just such a fucking pain in the ass.

>>5109272
thank you

>>5109311
>the very first option in the exclude categories tab is pythons
fucking lmao

so to own a reptile I have to not only spend 5-1000 dollars ordering or custom building an enclosure, I also have to have that enclosure fully set up and built ready to go for one specific species that I will then have to search morphmarket every day for months to years hoping one will show up so that I can pay another thousand for the animal plus shipping?

>>5109321
>1000 for the enclosure and another 1000 for the animal
What the fuck are you looking for that would cost that much?

>>5109321
>go to expo, buy terrarium, decor and animal for cheap

>>5109328
everything that isn't a ballcrestleo is at least 300 dollars plus 50-150 shipping
and I dont even know if they charge tax, probably do.
Any enclosure bigger than a 20 gallon is the same, 300 at least for a 4 foot glass box, and thats if you order to take someone's trash away. Getting a new enclosure that's like 6 or 8 feet, in case you wanted to keep any snake, is going to cost at least 600, with equal or MORE on shipping, and then the tax, on BOTH of those figures.
And that's all before you've even bought a heat lamp.

>>5109349
The 4x4x2 Dubia (very big, suitable for arboreal species) is on sale right now. You can set that up with a big powerful UVB lamp, a night heat lamp, a day heat lamp, timers, thermostat power, hydgrostat power, a mister, and all the fittings needed for ~$900 rn. A Lewisi Iguana is ~$400 with freight, which means in your ~$2000 budget, you've got ~$700 to build a kickass background and climbing structure, buy substrate, and get rolling on your supplies that will be ongoing expenses.

>>5109321
have you tried just finding and befriending a lizard outside

>>5109417
I have literally only ever seen a single wild reptile in 30 years, a garter snake when I was little

>>5109349
>shipping
Why would you subject anything more than an insect to that? Just check with your local breeders. It's vastly more humane.

>>5108969
it really do be like that
>see motion
>eat
simple as.

>>5109451
YOUR LOCAL BREEDERS HE SAYS

>>5109461
Yes, unironically. Vet your breeders, don't just buy from some rack hoarder. If you cannot source a specific triple-lux FOMO morph locally, why do you feel you absolutely need it? At least in the US, literally everywhere has at least someone willing to put in the time and effort to produce quality offspring. This is the case for dozens, if not hundreds of species of reptiles.
t. flyover resident

>>5109461
if you're going to be a damn fool then gtfo. yes, buying from local breeders is often the best route for many animals (when you can find them at all on morphmarket etc depending on your area), and shipping can cause issues, but obviously local pickup isn't always feasible for everything. instead of knowing this you are bitching on 4chan. scoffing at common practices and crying about prices means you might just not be cut out for herps.

i'm sorry you got priced and effortmogged out of reptiles but it's simply not our fucking problem. exotics are not stray cats.

>>5109349
>everything that isn't a ballcrestleo is at least 300 dollars plus 50-150 shipping
There are plenty of affordable small herps but they won't be your special snowflake pupper you can handle

>>5109477
>>5109561
TWO of you retards really read that post and aren't able to put together that it might be mocking the post for assuming I just have a ton of hot single reptile breeders in my area just itching to sell things that aren't ball pythons
so pathetically desperate for some kind of fake forum own you're willing to look like troglodyte window lickers to get it

>>5109581
>TWO of you retards really read that post and aren't able to put together that it might be mocking the post for assuming I just have a ton of hot single reptile breeders in my area just itching to sell things that aren't ball pythons
so pathetically desperate for some kind of fake forum own you're willing to look like troglodyte window lickers to get it

I'm assuming you're a stupid fucking cocksucker moron because you still don't understand that the reason people say "go to a breeder" is because your options otherwise are garbage. "Me want scaly pet, how do I get for five dollars?!" YOU DON'T, you fucking dicksucker. I live in a snowy hell and managed to find my tropical gecko bred locally, if you can't get one locally or find a good source otherwise (versus bitching in this thread) and will just cry then, it's a sign you should fuck off and die for your insolence/it's clear from your attitude that you aren't the type to do good by these animals. spoiler: exotic vets cost hundreds and more also, so what's your plan for that idiot? just go away, you are not a good prospective lizard owner (or dude in general since you're fucking retarded).

now i know why nobody bothers to make these generals but me. get a clue or get the fuck out jesus christ.

>>5109620
*that tone was too mean bc booze but rly you are being stupid

Guys if I am doing the cork bark, expanding foam, etc background, should I wait for the silicone to cure or can I go at it with the foam right away?

>>5109349
I can go to a home depot and get the materials to build a waterproof 8x4x4 terrarium RIGHT NOW for less than 500 dollars. and that's everything, up to and including the track for the sliding doors and silicone/fiberglass resin for waterproofing the panels. I could get the outer structure done and the resin on and curing tonight and still get a solid 8 hours of sleep. You're bitching to bitch.

>>5109672
I'd let the silicone cure up first. foam and silicone both cure with moisture, so wet stuff doesnt really like to stick to silicone all that well, and ditto for foam.

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>>5108604
NEET here
Parents just went on vacation after deciding to rescue this turtle from a bag of crawfish, we put him in a tank with a bunch of soil from a nearby river, treated water, and a circulation fan from my saltwater tank.
He seems to be doing okay so far but isn't eating much, just a bit of the store dry food and eating the bugs/worms that came in the dirt. Looks like he got punched in the eye at some point.

I figured you guys would know as well as anyone, is the ReptiZoo PID heat lamp thermostat the cheapest good quality dimming thermostat for heat lamps? I’ve got one I use for baby chickens, but this year I’m increasing the number of Cornish Rocks I buy by quite a few, and so I’ll need to buy several more. I see cheaper ones, but are they reputable?

>>5108608
I've seen it with multiple species of darts or tree frogs at several well funded and highly regarded aquariums in the US, but they're always very large - the smallest was maybe a 4x6x4' which just had two species. Mystic Aquarium (famous for its beluga whales) has a roughly 6' cube that has four or five different, similarly sized dart species, but I suspect they are placed in there as full sized adults.

>I am moving and need to rehome this animal to a loving home
>500 dollars please

>>5109851
>>5109852
How are you treating the water? Turtles are huge poopers.

>>5110285
Classic.

sorry if this is a blogpost or whatever, i mostly just lurk /an/ and very rarely post
my corn snek kicked her bucket last january and ive been ruminating for a while but now feel like i wanna get back into the thing again
im a UK fella and not super well-versed by any means but i plan on visiting my local reptile shop next week and seeing whether or not they can order a bluetongue for me, been wanting to keep a lizard for a while but i didn't have room while my snek was alive, and i think the viv i had for her is too small for a skink so im probably gonna be looking into purchasing a whole new setup
i'm seeing a lot of conflicting info online about bluetongue care, mainly in terms of substrate and diet (some say high quality cat/dog food is fine, some say don't do that)
are there any idiotproof "care sheets" or whatever you guys would recommend to a potential new bluetongue owner?

>>5109760
gotcha I'll wait for the silicone to cure
I hope I won't fuck up this expensive ass terrarium

I know springtails eating mould is an advertising pitch to sell people 10 dollar springtail cultures, but it's easy to see why people would think that
I made a setup for them, and as always happens before a microbiome is established, there was instant mould
I pull up the rib bone where a lot of it is concentrated, and a bunch of them had found their way over to it and had been hanging out under the mouldy bone, presumably for most of the night, probably eating the slime forming on its underside.

>>5110548
I hatched free springtails from peat, maybe I should start selling them

>>5110829
these things are literally worthless and you still have to pay absurd prices if you don't know someone willing to give you some for free

>>5110507
Worst case you can just razorblade it off, which while tedious isnt especially difficult.

>>5110866
They do clean up mold though, no? They got into my grindal worm culture that I have for my fish and they keep it completely mold free which is neat.

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I thought reptile mats were the gold standard. This guy says they absolutely suck. Is the reptile keeping meta ever changing?

>>5110944
>reptile mats were the gold standard
fucking when, 1998?

>>5110937
they compete with mold, they don't eat it. they eat what mold does, therefore reducing the spread of it.
They both break down small scraps of food, but springtails do it without destroying your sinuses.

I always used dirt from the backyard for substrate. The trends and concerns of current year have no power over me.

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Man I love how goofy Asian Water Monitors are. I love seeing them wearing a harness or a sweater. Just patrolling the perimeter to patrol.

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>>5110299
Haven't gotten a filter yet, good to know.
There are apparently one or two small clams in the sand about half an inch in size.
We added a few fish for the turtle to eat.

>>5108604
Any advice on a ball python not eating? It’s been 2.5 months. She did this in the past after eating a slightly bigger than normal rat however that only lasted 5 weeks. She’s not losing weight, still in the 1500s grams (my weigh set up is fucky and she’s a very sociable snake so she refuses to sit still in the tub so can’t get a consistent spot on weight). As mentioned, sociable and high energy. Husbandry is fine, even gave her an extra hide to see if that would help but nothing has changed. Idk what to do. I know people have had them go over a year no food, and if her weight is fine husbandry is good she’s otherwise perfectly healthy then I really don’t need to worry but it’s still concerning to me to see her not eat for so long. Like I get it, she’s a snake she’s a reptile they’ve evolved to be able to fast for fucked up periods of time and they can seemingly do it for no reason. But it’s concerning anyways. I know if I have the husbandry good, if she’s pooping and eating regularly then my job is done.
F/t’d rats are what I feed btw. Not gonna try a live as much as I’d like to just for her to eat, because if she still doesn’t eat it then I’m stuck with a rat and I’ll get attached to it lol.
I’m also sick of her not eating and having to throw rats away. I’m going to skip my next feed day, just bare minimum maintenance no handling nothing until 2 feed days from now.
I was looking to rehome her and now I can’t until she starts eating again.

I want to get mourning geckos but i have some concerns about them infesting my apartment or the whole building due to their ability to go through small gaps and reproduce quickly. How real of a threat is this? I live in a nordic country but i guess they could survive the winter by staying indoors and eating whatever bugs they find, that leafystreet video kinda scared me off. Also about population control i guess best is to just find the eggs and freeze them?

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Literally brainless. Does she know how stupid she is?

>>5112121
>I live in a nordic country
you'll be fine.

>>5111962
I know it can fuck you up when they're on an extended hunger strike, but so long as she's not actively losing weight and her body condition is still good you're fine. She'll eat when she wants to eat.

>>5112236
0 thoughts in that head

I went road cruising and saw nothing but atrox (rattle snakes) over three days. Going out again in two weeks and it should be golden. Go way down by the Mexico border. Anyone else?

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>>5109445
>I have literally only ever seen a single wild reptile in 30 years
I have literally not seen a lizard almost every single day of my life in 30 years, hell you have to work to not step on them sometimes.

>>5112121
they need more humidity than a typical human dwelling outside of tropical areas has, escapees will gradually turn into gecko jerky unless they can find a micro-climate habitat somewhere in the walls or something.

Bros please help me
I bought orange springtails 2 weeks ago because I wanted to take care of something after my cat died
I set them up an enclosure and nearly from the moment they've been here until now, I've had a constant horribly stuffy nose from mold spores. I'm so god damn sick of breathing through my mouth.
But every time I check on the enclosure, there's either barely any visible mold, or whenever there's moldy food, they're swarming it. I learned they've been breeding because I went to pick a mouldy carrot piece out of it, and they've apparently been breeding because there was a ton of them sitting right under it. so I dont want to remove it because it seems to be working out for them.
I keep them in a little plastic tub and keep the lid slightly ajar, the walls/ceiling are never foggy except where the soil touches it, the leaf litter and moss is all dry but the soil stays wet
I just wanted a box of tic tacs to keep on my desk and look at but these things are making my life misery, is it just a waiting thing for them to get more established? Should I be removing mouldy food even though its where they all seem to gather?

When I was driving today I saw a turtle crossing the road. I was going too fast so I couldn’t stop and move it across the street. I hoped it was ok.
7 hours later I drive by the same area and I saw it’s dead body and I started to tear up for some reason. I dunno why dead turtles affect me more than dead deer or birds.

>>5114253
you keep them as pets? wtf
i think you can remove the moldy carrot i just feed a colony fish flakes

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did this, first time ever doing something like this i hope its ok

>>5109460
>>5108812
>Frogs will eat literally anything that moves.
I had a pacman frog for a few years. Then one day I decided to redecorate the terrarium. I made a simple water feature with some carefully arranged rocks and used a small aquarium filter to make a simple waterfall. Apparently the water flowing over the rocks made them look like they were moving, and said frog attempted to swallow a rock bigger than my fist and died in the process.

>>5114526
poor retard lmao

>>5114526
beastmode

New zfrank dropped and it's about geckos!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0JbIKPE9mc

>>5114522
looks fine, maybe a little patchwork on the barespots with some silicone and (DRY AS FUCK VERY IMPORTANT) moss/coir. use more than you think you need and dont be afraid to press it in.

>>5112236
you can tell by the squint its in nirvana with no brain

>>5114541
other sources/videos that explain gecko feet like this?

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>>5114617
Thanks, I did that today, and a bit of superglue here and there

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>>5114253
i misread that as powder oranges at first because keeping actual springtails for that is ??? (there are cool varieties but for a desk prop?) given they are so small. in fact if you are having problems with your springtails (they eat the microscopic and you don't need to see their food) then just get isopods instead. i have powder orange isopods for my gecko's CUC which are fun to observe but rubber duckies seem cool, they just aren't good for a CUC but for you the odd types of ispods could be cool and are big enough to see easily.

>>5115340
i was going to work my way up to isopods
or mealworms, they're quite visible and entertaining as far as tiny invertebrates go

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>>5115341
not sure why you can't have isopods if you have springtails. and a mealworm/darkling beetle setup seems like more hassle because of 2 life stages plus mealworms are ugly imo.

idk if you want something hassle free i'd say just look into Porcellionides pruinosus since these guys are used clean up lizard poop (and are often eaten) so it's not rocket science and they come in many varieties from orange to blue to oreo crumble. i'm looking at my orange guys right now and i imagine if they were in a smaller desk setup it would be pretty cool too.

>>5115345
Why do you keep posting telling me to get other animals in response to me asking about mold

>>5115345
I had a small little bookshelf setup for these guys with live moss. It was really quite aesthetic. Unfortunately they eat everything. Anything not a rock or dirt in an isopod setup will be nibbled down over enough time. You can really only have them in nondescript bins of leaves and mulch, because then their activity isn't really noticeable. I'd also recommend having something to eat them, because their population will explode without culls.

>>5115410
>Not letting the moss establish or giving it enough light to outpace the eating
>Not being fascinated looking at the little holes developing in the wood

>>5115348
because having springtails is weird since they're just a bunch of specks in dirt and the mold shouldn't be visible anyway. you could get a much cooler animal for $20.

>>5115528
well anyway there's too much mold for them to eat so just remove the source w/e and these can live with them.

I want to get my blue tongued skink a giant enclosure, at least 7'x'2'x2'.

He used to have a 6 foot wooded enclosure but when I was in jail some asshole at my home broke the glass and my mom threw it away and put him in his old 36x18x18.

I saw on walmart.com they have a 7 footer for 600 bucks. Does anyone know of anything cheaper? The wallmart one is PVC.

>>5115553
Walmart’s website is basically AliExpress in that it’s crawling with dropship vendors.

Probably the best intersection of decent+affordable is putting a 2x2x2 extension on a 4x2x2 Dubia brand one. That’d be like $450.

They do a 4x2x2 extension if you have the room for an 8x2x2. That’s like $630 total.

>>5115553
Try not being a criminal piece of shit

>>5115558
Dubia also sells a 5x2x2 that can take the 2x2x2 extension or can use the splice kit to be added to a 4x2x2 or even another 5x2x2. It’d be 500 to go 7 feet wide or 830 to go 10 feet wide.

>>5115559
Try sucking the shit off your boyfriends dick you fucking troon loving faggot.
>>5115561
>>5115558
Thank you. What did you mean by dropship vendors?

>>5115562
It means that anyone can sell garbage of unknown quality on Walmart.com. It is more of a marketplace than a store.

>>5115575
Have you heard of Toxirium before? That's the company on walmart.com. I checked out the dubia stuff too, I may do that. The 34 dollar extender kit and 2x Four footers

>>5115583
I haven’t heard of that brand. See if you can find any reviews. To some extent, PVC enclosures are just flat sheets of plastic, pretty hard to eff up. But the other half of the equation is the doors and the frames, and if those aren’t right, it’s miserable. So if a reputable choice is similar money, there’s no reason to risk it.

>>5115584
It gets like 4 stars out of 80 or so reviews on amazon.

How big are the encolsures you keep your reptiles in?

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why are jumping spiders so animated? i might get one of these lil fellas just to get over my fear of spiders

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What do you think herp?

>>5115831
gonna need some more substrate and some leaves but looks good

I have a female Chahuoa gecko about 9-10 months old. She was eating a shitload and growing but she stopped eating much at all when spring started like 2 weeks ago. She's taken some giant meal worms and eaten some bannana but is refusing her powdered gecko diet and refusing black crickets and brown crickets.

Do females do this in spring for breeding season? I had a female leopard gecko in the past and she did the same thing in the spring, she just stopped eating. I think when I had female tokays they may have stopped eating in the spring too.

My chahuoas cage is in the 70s farneheight, and humidity is 60-90%.


>>5115831
That looks really cool, what reptile is in it?

>>5115603
Amazon reviews are bot-central. Look for people talking about them. For instance, there’s a guy who bought one for a beardie on plebbit that says the doors are garbage and the track isn’t the full width of the opening. Even those nerds are worth 100x more than an Amazon rating. If you read Amazon reviews carefully, they can be useful, but you need to be careful to filter out the too positive bots and morons who say shit like “Shipped fast, 5 stars” as well as the morons who say things like “I tried to use it standing on its end and the doors won’t stay in place when it’s sideways vertically, 1 star”

I don’t have any reptiles at the moment, but I used to have Tokays. I rehomed them when I moved a few years back. My enclosure was an old china cabinet that I fiberglassed all the wood on. It was 4 feet wide, 16 inches deep in the middle, 10 inches deep at the edges (it was curved front), and 5 feet tall. I mostly live vicariously through you guys these days, I wanna do a big jungle display unit again sometime, but I’ve got a million other projects that are higher priority.

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>>5108604
Look what just crawled through my campsite just now

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>>5115835
thanks, i added leaves, ran out of substrate but will get more
>>5115838
it will be for this little guy, my first ever gecko.
just brought him home

Will my rosy boa stop biting me if I just let her nibble on my arms or fingers until she learns I'm not food?

>>5116130
You are food

>>5115987
Damn I wish i could see one of those. I thought of getting a lisence and taming one from baby age

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Went to an expo over the weekend, saw a species a woman had brought in for her first time at a booth. Anyone know what species this is, specifically?
Apparently all those she brought were first-generation captive bred.

>>5116183
Gila monsters are venomous and bites are extremely painful

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swlozUKuvFI

>>5116192
They’re also generally of good disposition and if you tick one off, it’s not hard to avoid the bite unless you’re not paying any attention to it.

As always, the 1899 Arizona Graphic quote from Dr Ward applies:
> I have never been called to attend a case of Gila monster bite, and I don’t want to be. I think a man who is fool enough to get bitten by a Gila monster ought to die. The creature is so sluggish and slow of movement that the victim of its bite is compelled to help largely in order to get bitten.

>>5116192
I hate this clickbait retard and all his over-reaction 'guy gets bitten' content.

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>>5115996

>>5116333
Nice balls.

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>>5108604

My leopard gecko climbs around alot so I added a funky looking grapewood to the tank, hope she likes it.

>>5116413
i like grapewood, peak aesthetics

>>5116355
Thanks!

hello /herp/ is this a frog?https://vocaroo.com/1fADhXxpZNAY
asking on behalf of someone

>>5116613
whoever's telling you that's a bird is retarded

>>5116613
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/uQPgiXocKj0
yeah

Daytime: Bird
Nighttime: Frog
unless its a mourning dove

My cat keeps bringing me snakes from our backyard, would it be okay to get a glass case and just keep one as a pet

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>>5116747
Forgot pic

Do not let cats outside
If you have to ask here, no

>>5116788
Why the hell can you not let a cat outside it's where they evolved

>>5116790
because it's not where your domesticated descendant of an african desert cat evolved.
cats go outside and just murder continuously. They are directly responsible for the extinction of hundreds of bird species and many other reptiles and small mammals. You can find countless studies of the catastrophic damage cats wreak on ecosystems. They have no natural predators and do nothing for the ecosystem but harm it.

>>5116791
>they have no natural predators
Literally every canid coyote sized and larger
Eagles
Large owls
Inner city youths
Budget minded vietnamese chefs
Mentally ill white girls with a six inch vitamin D deficiency
Automobilus Chevy

yeah bro all those wolves and giant eagles living within walking distance of your house
you realize coyotes eat like... squirrels, right?

>>5116796
Coyotes are prolific pussy eaters

>>5116747
no, for much the same reasons that if you wanted a pet rat you wouldnt just pick one up from outside.

>>5116794
>it's okay that i let an animal I ostensibly care for go into the wild and indiscriminately murder the wildlife, because it can get murdered too
I see you're just retarded then. either way, no you should not keep a wild pet as a snake, and you shouldnt keep animals in general, and for that matter, nor should you reproduce.

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>>5116796
Do you think eating squirrels is incompatible with eating cats?

>>5116812
Yes. Coyotes are small game hunters that are notoriously cowardly. Unless you are in a place that's infested with them, you cannot use their existence as cope that it's okay that your cat goes outside and kills snakes for fun all day and then goes back inside to be provided a full meal where nothing can hurt it. Has your cat been killed by an eagle or coyote? No? Weird.

>>5116819
Not to mention, Any cat that DOES get killed by one of these creatures will just instantaneously be replaced by another cat from the cat factory. There's no balance, no ecosystem, no population control or booms or busts, it's completely removed from nature and actively harming it.
I can't fucking believe I actually have to argue this in the fucking herp thread of all places.

>it's nature it's natural
as i release my invasive species from another continent with no proper ecological niche

>>5108604
Are there any reptiles that enjoy being handled?

>>5116885
"Enjoy" is the wrong word to use. My emerald tree skink took months to acclimate, but now he wants to climb anywhere, including over me. He does not seek me out specifically, but he will accept that I am comparable to a branch and I'm novel enough to warrant curiosity. Not many reptiles will meet or exceed that.
Maybe bearded dragons; they're popular for a reason.

>>5116819
>Coyotes are small game hunters
Cats are small game
>you cannot use their existence as cope that it's okay that your cat goes outside and kills snakes for fun all day and then goes back inside to be provided a full meal where nothing can hurt it. Has your cat been killed by an eagle or coyote? No? Weird
Way to miss the point retard. Coyotes kill cats all the time, that’s just another reason to keep them inside

>>5116801
>it's okay that i let an animal I ostensibly care for go into the wild and indiscriminately murder the wildlife, because it can get murdered too
Das rite. Nature, bitch. My cat will eat ze robins and garter snakes. He will be eaten by ze husky. And he VILL be happy.

And yes. My cat is a vore fetishist.

Lets not derail the reptile thread please