>>62104059
Basterd benchid donut rase da kid! Shalom rabbi!

>>62104059
govs keep raising taxes as if that doesnt have a cost. "its only 750 more dollars this year bro! gotta pay for bloated bureaucracy bro!"

>>62104059
I do believe you also factor in opportunity costs. you support a child for what? 20-25 years? thats money that could have been in the stock market. I child also requires you to move into a better neighborhood, bigger apartment, bigger car and everything else that comes with it. 200-300k sounds realistic over that time span. just because you can live frugally, doesnt mean your child can.

>>62104059
Why does every media picture that has a baby involved always has brown babies in it and whenever abortion or anti-natalism is involved there use pics of white people and babies?

>>62104104
Jews have plans and u know it, dont ask stupid questions!

>>62104059
Women don't want to have kids and I don't blame them. Human pregnancy is inefficient compared to other animals due to the head size of human babies. It radically changes the body and the person for the rest of their life. There is minimal "bounce" back. The brain changes. We will have artificial wombs one day, so these issues of people not having or wanting children will be moot when an artificial incubator can do all the work. They'll also be able to make babies from your skin, so you won't even need to find a woman to procreate with anymore if you so choose.

>>62104113
Hey vitalik! Hows mainnet scaling?

>>62104059
>wife does child care
This thing alone will cost millions in lost opportunity. You realize that now both of your retirements are on you?

>>62104059
Every time I see someone with kids I am thankful I'm not them. I can't imagine spending 300k on them and having no freedom or free time. inb4 /biz/ copes about kids being cheap because of "muh hand me downs" and "muh food is cheap". We all know that's bullshit just like your 200k remote do-nothing job and 8 inch dick.

>>62104059
>food cost is negligible
Lmao
>hand me down clothes
Not everybody has close family
>wife does child care
Sure, unless she has a phone or TV and gets blasted with propaganda to be a stronk independent wahmen
>public school is free
Your whole list could have been summarized with:
>I'm not 18 yet and I don't get it

>>62104059
>kids
It's
>keeyids

>>62104059
Usually it costs 800k, but when a nigger is depicted it suddenly goes down to 300k.

>>62104059
Thats for 18 years you fucking tard

>>62104059
that picture is AI

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>>62104113
Naturally
A: Women get their first child as teen when the bones can still grow
B: Women eat real food and are not malnoutrished so they have wide hips
And bam birth is easy. You retard think nature made an error? Civilization made an error.

>>62104059
if you don't vax them, healthcare goes down to zero. homeschool them and they won't care about buying dumb shit because the other kid has it.

>>62104059
Maybe they cost 10k max

>>62104113
>moot
Who?

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>>62104095
This. Raising a child when he’s still a 40 year old, kissless virgin living with his parents will cost them at least $300k by then. Parents pray that Skeeter Jean, JiDion, ElizXbeth or Alex Rosen catch him with CP on his phone one day and let the cops send their mankid to jail for life and put the parents out of their misery lol

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They keep inflating these numbers by adding in the cost of college and assuming that additional kids don't get marginally cheaper as you accumulate stuff that can become hand-me-downs. They also assume you're a total goy-cattle and buy everything from clothes to baby toys brand new.

Violently reject the anti natal propaganda

It has never been easier for you to have an outsized impact on the demographic and genetic future of the species than now. US total fertility is 1.57 on average. Globally, the only populations that are technologically capable and not in TFR freefall are Israelis (including the secular ones), the Nordics, and Anglo settler states (USA/CAN/AU/NZ). These are the only population groups worth betting on or forming business ventures with. Because they are the only ones that are going to matter.

Get your genes onto the orbital habitats.

>>62104059
So new dad with a 1.5 yr old.
Kid expenses:
>0-6 months
Food: $0 (only breastmilk)
Clothes: $150 (once upon a child for discount clothes and toys)
Toys: $100
Carrier: $0 (family friend's old one)

>6-12 months
Food: maybe like a $100? (She would eat like half a cucumber or three chocolate chips for a "meal" + breast milk)
Clothes: $200 (bigger = more fabric = little more expensive)
Toys: $200 (also relatives gift a lot if toys so not bad
Carrier: $150 (size up)

12-16 months
Food: 300? Idk, still not much at all
Clothes: $400 (i got her a bunch of non-discount stuff because i thought it looked cute, not a necessary expense)
Toys: 150
Carrier: same size

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>>62104123
/biz/ makes me feel sane. I was also thinking the same thing.

>childhood friend gets his first gf at 29
>married and had a baby within a year of meeting her
>got her pregnant while she was finishing her masters
>fast forward 2 years
>son has autism and some heart valve problem
>wife has never had a job at 28
>she plans to stay home with the son for another year, at least
>meanwhile my friend works like 60 hours a week making like 3500 euros a month
>needs to smoke, drink and binge shitty online games to keep up with the stress
>she doesn't even cook, they live in walking distance from her mom so she just eats there like 3-4 times a week with the kid and my friend has to order food or cook for himself


All I can think of is "what the actual fuck?"

>>62106191
R u a retard? You forgot diapers

>>62106346
>wife has never had a job at 28
my sister leaves her child at her/our parents for the majority of the time even though she is physically fit and earns really good money. the child is already 13 and as far as I can tell he considers his grandmother as his actual mother. despite all that she still makes demands on how to raise the child. I swear to fucking god modern women/mothers are cooked. everywhere you go you see mothers on their fucking smartphone instead of interacting with their child, let alone giving them internet/social media access early on. this is a lost generation. I look at my nephew and I get somewhat scared, not because of him but because I realize his generation has to build/main the world in the next 20 or so years and they are nowhere equipped to do so.

>>62104104
Jews

>>62104059
Damn. Every brownoid has millions to spend on kids.
>inb4 their spending our money
I know.

>>62104059
>wife does child care
heh

Literally just shop at costco this isn't hard.

>>62104059
All the cost are negligible other than daycare and sports even diapers. Anti-natalist propaganda is at its core evil unless youre a gnostic.

>>62104059
300k for their entire childhood? Good deal. I'm having one.

It's 300k unless you're black in which case it's free because they abandoned the kid.

>>62104511
eyy, yo whiteboi. joo know where joo at? stop trya dizz owo cullchure and shiiet

>>62106420
Cloth diapers + diapers cost fucking nothing. It is like 40 cents a diaper at costco and she wears like 5 a day max because cloth diapers exist and you just chuck those in the wash

>>62110032
Reminder that modern washing machines and detergents are not designed for cleaning and sanitizing shit soils properly

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Is this the demoralization thread?

>>62104957
this
women of the past would pop out 12 children and then live until their 80s
paleolithic women were built like brick shit houses and were over 6ft tall with wide hips, toned bodies and big booba

>>62104059
what prompt use to get this? impossible to find real life imagery like this. fascinating!

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>>62104059
Its free if youre a Black King.

>>62104059
only retards reproduce. muh but my animal instincts!

My baby is 4mo old and my wife and I were just talking the other day and she told me she wished we had started earlier like I had said. We're now in our late 30s and barely are gonna be able to get two kids. It'll be enough though, I think.

Babies are cheap as fuck. All anti-natalist should be shamed and abused whenever they give their shit opinion. The second hand market for clothes, equipment, toys, etc. is flooded with free shit constantly cuz the baby industry is a complete consumerist hell that has a stranglehold on normie women.

Make babies, anons, don't listen to the faggots in here saying the opposite. They are genetic dead ends, why would anyone listen and agree unless they are cut from the same cloth? Spite them at the least, pass on your based beliefs at best. Turning yourself into a parent and your parents into grandparents is one of the most rewarding and satisfying feelings in the world.

>>62104104
Most babies are brown because white people can't get laid. You're probably a virgin too, right?

>>62116700
This. Children and pure and based and the only chance at a meaningful life. You might say “Changing the world for the better would be meaningful” but changing it for who? The next generation. Adopt if you have to

>>62112201
But if she's 42 she could have already plausibly had kids old enough to not need a babysitter anyway?

In case anyone else was curious about the actual article/stats/methodology and not just yelling at ghosts
https://www.lendingtree.com/debt-consolidation/raising-a-child-study/
Important to note that raising a child is considered to be raising them all the way to 18. Taking the data at face value, the lion's share of money goes to child care, which I'm not surprised by. I don't really see how having a kid necessarily equates to another $4400 in transportation spending annually though. Also worth noting that it doesn't even factor in shit like education/extracurriculars.

Useless thread made by a childless faggot/bot that also doesn't know how finance works.

>>62116700
>a single 4mo old, first kid
>wow this is cheap and easy!
lol
lmao

>>62120527
desu I've noticed a consistent pattern where the people most judgmental about child raising are
>People who don't have one
>People who've had one for a very short amount of time
>People who had a single kid thirty years ago and don't remember what it was like

>>62104059
>hand me down clothes
from whom? Kids are so expensive we're all only having one
fuck thrifted clothes they will get ringworm and other diseases
don't forget housing and transportation costs. Need more than a studio or 1 bedroom with a kid or life is hard or you're looked down upon, by myself id be content to bike everywhere but can't take a toddler to preschool in burgerland with a bakfiets, especially if all the other parents have the gigantic American SUVs where they can't see you if you get close i.e. in every fucking parking lot
carseats are expensive and expire, wait too long and you can't use it on the next one
they outgrow their clothes every year at least, and if they haven't outgrown their current set they destroy the knees or get impossible to remove stains
If you want yours to have a good childhood you have to buy stuff for every single activity they could want to try from 5-15 years old, for sports and other activities. Actually here is where you'd buy used, buy a bat, an old child golf club (do NOT buy them a set when starting out, just a 7 iron and a putter and take them to the driving range), a scooter, a bike (a new one every 2-3 years), a skateboard, ice skates, tennis racket,
don't forget school supplies, all the public schools are underfunded so they even ask you to buy extra stuff for them
and of course they ""need"" new pens every year even though the last years pens have ink still
most people make so little they need both parents to work so $1500/month daycare and preschool until public school

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>>62120791
Sounds accurate desu. Imagine being forced to buy a new car every year for almost 20 years. That's essentially the expense of having kids.
>t. 2 kids and its expensive af