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will america be the only country to survive the economic collapse?
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>>62116818
Where is China on that list? everyone says they're the best!
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>>62116818
Nice try jew, Avg wage in the United States is weighted to the 1%. Use HDI
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>>62116818
>average
lel
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>>62116818
Is this a venezuelan joke? A zimbabwean? Wenigger... oh its a German one then?
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>>62116818
>US
>UK
lol and holy shit poor Japan
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>>62116818
Is that after taxes?
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>>62116818
The difference is negated by americans needing to pay for all the stuff it’s competitioners get for free.
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>>62116818
how can i profit from this though?
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>>62116818
something's not right about this
i understand the graph is true but i feel like america is the one getting fucked over in this situation, somehow

also 1pbtid twitter spam pol thread
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>>62116818
Now show me the same chart for median wages.
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>>62116943
In most 1st world countries healthcare and education are free. Higher wages don't matter.
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>>62116818
Yeah now account for housing and food and almost everything being 2x what they should be
Sure, buying a computer part you buy once every 6 years will basically be the same price everywhere on the planet. Woohooo.
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>>62116954
but that's all paid for by taxes, which are collected from people's income (in one way or another)
so that's not a real explanation
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>>62116818
they need it
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>>62116818
What's this even? Is this the net take home?
Can we instead look at what employers are paying gross?
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>>62116818
we call them europoors for a reason
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>>62116923
its not. my health insurance is $25 a paycheck (50 a month)

my gas is cheaper, my income taxes are lower, sales tax is lower
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>>62116974
>prices arent up in other countries
LMAO. electricity is 2x higher in europe.... gas too
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>>62116818
>chart shows nominal income
>USD increasingly worthless as cost of living inflates out of control

really makes you think
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>>62116818
Yes. Ignore all the libtards.
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>>62117127
the euro has declined against the dollar from the 2000s
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>>62117122
Actually try to use that cheap-shit health insurance, retard. What's your deductible and max out of pocket, in-network and out? Don't answer, you didn't know what you're talking about.
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>>62117138
is that relevant if we're discussing nominal wages and implicit purchasing power of those nominal wages?
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>>62117138
Can you even read a chart? It's the same level?
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>>62116954
Which are paid from taxes on wages. Taxes that are higher on wages that are lower. Also, just have a job in the US and healthcare isn’t more expensive than the effective cost in Europe (meaning higher taxes).
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>>62116955
>Yeah now account for housing and food and almost everything being 2x what they should be
I won’t argue against this, and you are right, but do you think Europe is better in this regard? You think housing in Britain or Germany is cheaper? Especially for equivalent houses?
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>>62117069
>doesnt understand “average annual wage”
>show what employers are paying gross?
literally what it is
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>>62116818
Lmao euro poor faggots

These are the poor sodomite losers who call Americans dumb. Hahahahahahahahahahahabahahahababba
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last year I made tens of thousands in crypto and then the government raped me on taxes. And it was both the state and federal government, even though the state has literally zero to do with the market regulated by the fed, just stealing something that isn't theirs at all. Suddenly I feel like our wages aren't that great.
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>>62116824
wumaos, oh wumaos! where are they??
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>>62116935
by going to Japan
enjoy a filling meal for $3.20
Night out in the city with 3 friends and you eat like fucking pigs, all you can drink/eat for 2 hours ~$70
Taxi through the entire city ~$20-30
Going anywhere in Tokyo by train $1.20-1.50
Average Business Hotel $60/Night
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>>62116948
this and top and tail it for good measure, also let's see medical and student debt repayment comparisons
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>>62117306
>how can I profit?
>by spending money on a night out
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>>62117319
live in Japan, earn Dollars or Euros, it's not that hard
I was just explaining it for your fat, disgusting burger brain how much money you'd save by being there instead of your nigger-infested shithole of a non-country
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>>62117306
it's amazing how much Japan has been destroyed, tokyo used to be one of the most expensive cities on the planet, now people go to them because it's cheap like they are some south east asian country
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>>62117336
fuck you
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Average in my town is 40k (USA!), you have to go to jew york city to get close to these numbers.
An acre of land in my rural area might run you 20-40k, so merely .5 to 1 year of work for a singular acre in rural retardville if you save every penny.
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>>62117283
You being an americam retard who didn’t even read the thread proves how retarded modern americans are.
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>>62117336
It’s a joke nigger. Lighten up
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>>62117363
yeah but the same is true in Europe, you leave their cities and their wages go to like 20k
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>>62117368
You replied two times which is still probably less than the number of penises that have entered your poor and extremely gay mouth.
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>>62117139
Youre paying as a young person for excellent healthcare because youre forced to, but you wont use it. Im not paying for it because thats my choice as a red blooded american patriot
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>>62117139
Youre paying as a young person for excellent healthcare because youre forced to, but you wont use it. Im not paying for it because thats my choice as a red blooded american patriot
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>>62117377
>the captcha is fucked up, that proves that i’m not a complete retard!

So these are the kind of copes with which you americans stay in bad shape, huh?
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>>62116818
Does this include or exclude employer-side payroll taxes?
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>>62116943
It's average, not median. I'm a britbong and when I travelled to the U.S I was shocked by how poor everyone was, I visited L.A and holy shit, I saw poverty that would make south african villagers want to send aid. A tiny fraction of Americans seem to make literally all the money, the rest are earning nothing and spending all of it on their bills.
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>>62118510
The median individual income for a full time worker with only a high school diploma is over $50,000. It’s over $91,000 for people with college degrees. What’s your next cope?
>https://www2.census.gov/programs-surveys/demo/tables/p60/286/inc_ed.xlsx

LA is a spic covered shithole.
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>>62116818
The income gap today between the US and the rest of the developed world, is almost (not quite there yet) as large as the income gap between Japan in the 90s and the rest of the world.
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>>62117122
Bullshit. Americans get ripped off on everything.
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>>62118548
>median income
>for a subset of workers who range in age from 25 to their 70s
Bro, get it together.
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>>62117139
>let me tell you about your insurance
LOL
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>>62118609
just use google (American company btw) and look up gas, electricity, income tax rates, VAT vs sales tax, etc.
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>>62118626
>noooo you can’t use the normal working ages when aggregating data
So that’s your cope? Neat.
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>be united stater
>win two times more than other countries
>have to pay half your salary for healthcare, insurance, mortgages and car
yeah sure you guys are "winning"
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>>62117139
>Actually try to use that cheap-shit health insurance, retard.
Literally the exact same process as any other health insurance.

I pay $58.14 a paycheck. I have a $3400 deductible. I don’t go to the doctor because I’m younger and work out and not fat as shit. My company also throws in $1000 to my HSA each year which has been a free $6000 for me. Plus market returns.

You can cope all you want but europoors paying high taxes for healthcare that’s not better isn’t a good thing.
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>>62116954
you mean sub par "free" healthcare for all the immigrants you import! Very 1st world anon!
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>>62117291
Talk in percentages mutt, I get lashed 30% to 32 % off my yearly income in Negril. I make 1600 dollars monthly in wagies (that is top 5% wagie in Brasil) and about 12000 dollars yearly on market (crypto and regular stocks)
Last year they raped me for 9000 dollars in taxes.
I bet you made more raw and paid less raw in taxes.
I hate having to pay for nigger wellfare
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>>62117139
Not that anon.
But I pay $29 a month for health insurance.
That's 0.45% of my monthly NET.
My maximum out of pocket is $2,000 a year.
The coverage pays for 90% of procedures and medication.
Once the deductible is hit everything else is almost free.
I already got my $2K this year.
So massages are $7 for me

Even shitty non union jobs I've had were similar cost.
The deductable was just higher
Around $5K at a shit entry level job I had.
I don't think Europeans realize how much they pay for healthcare.
I can actually get a doctor's appointment. meanwhile my Dutch cousins actually had to come to the US for operations. Their insurance had a 3 year wait list.

Euros are just super ignorant on what goes on here in the US
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>>62116818
American works are significantly more productive than eurocucks and thirdworlders. We are on top because we deserve to be here.
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>>62118976
I'm going to rape you.
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>>62116818
isn’t it technically the same value since it’s the cost of healthcare and social services bringing the average wage down outside of America? Or is this pretax, grim if so.
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>>62116818
Opposite. With it's debt, shitty infrastructure and absolute lack of social systems American will suffer most even though on paper some would say it doesn't. If you are not making a million a year, you will suffer.
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Also, the USD isn't what it used to be.
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>>62116818
I thought average income in America was like $35k?
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>>62118510
why are you going to famously poor areas during travel? methinks you are being disingenuous
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>>62119576
is this really what europoors think
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>>62116818
Haha, no. Demographics are destiny. You got Somalians and Haitians up in that bitch now.
Barely 50% white, and probably not even.
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>>62116818
If you remove the top 1000 highest earning people the "average" wage of the other 140 million American workers is like $36k a year. Gross. Before tax.
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>>62117363
>An acre of land in my rural area might run you 20-40k, so merely .5 to 1 year of work for a singular acre
Land in much of Europe is $4000 a hectare (2 acres) or less.
$20 to $40k an acre is over priced even in America.
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>>62119706
Curse America. If Germany won WW2 we would be living in utopia right now.
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>>62118976
>I make 1600 dollars monthly in wagies (that is top 5% wagie in Brasil)
lol
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>>62116923
nigger health insurance in the uk is 15% (deducted from your paycheck) + 8% over 12,570 + 2% over 50k
https://www.gov.uk/national-insurance-rates-letters
do you pay that much? no do you fuck

ontop of 3x sales tax and vastly higher income tax
capital gains is 20% on everything over 3000
>>62116954
and i have like 60k of student debt which siphons 7% of my paycheck
this shit in europe is only """free""" if you are a nigger
it hammers the fuck out of anyone trying to crawl out of the gutter
>>62117139
try use shitty socialist healthcare too retard
unless i literally have a car accident then they don't want anything to do with people under 45
an annual check up? does not exist whatsoever
meanwhile my american counterparts have bloodwork and cancer screening annually and if they didn't want that then they could drop to cheaper insurance
i can't opt out of my system
>>62117387
i'm paying for someone else to have excellent healthcare
i don't get shit; i don't even get dentistry
>>62116818
socialist economies have completely fucked themselves by encouraging brain drain and fostering an underclass where being useless and sick is their full time job and having kids is subsidized
there is no reason for me to stay here if i could flee to the us - this country doesn't even represent me so a patriotic argument is retarded
fuck knows how you're supposed to get a job in the us outside of nepotism though when i can't even look for one or attend interviews on a vacation visa legally
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>>62119583
Which would make those other countries look better since it’s being measured in USD, you dumbass. They’re still being paid in euros and if the dollar collapses the euro should strength its exchange rate if Europe is better.
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>>62119585
>L.A
>Famously poor

Sure bud, I'm being disingenuous here, not you, for sure, no doubt :) You just keep on keepin on you smart lil tiger you
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>>62119584
That’s the median which also includes part time workers. The median household income is around $83k. Look at the census data above. Even people with only a high school diploma are over $50,000 if they work full time.
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>>62119715
>Land in much of Europe is $4000 a hectare (2 acres) or less.
Where in Europe?
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>>62116818
It is pretty funny to call Europe and Japan "competitors" to the US instead of what they are which is vassals. The only real functional competitor to the US is China.
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the idea that land in europe is cheaper is patently and laughably retarded
yeah maybe if we are comparing transylvania and lappland to rhode island and hawaii but they are practically giving it away in half the country and even within an hour of a major city you can own acres which simply isn't possible in western europe
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>>62120242
>nigger health insurance in the uk is 15% (deducted from your paycheck) + 8% over 12,570 + 2% over 50k
Holy shit. I make $146k and my effective income tax rate isn’t even that high. We do get robbed 6.2% to pay for boomers social security that I’ll never receive.
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>>62116818
For an accurate comparison, Wages Georg shouldn't be counted or included.
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>>62120242
> fuck knows how you're supposed to get a job in the us outside of nepotism though when i can't even look for one or attend interviews on a vacation visa legally
What’s your field anon?
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The US is now exporting more oil than ever in history, this war is making us rich!
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>>62116818
Shartgolems have no fucking idea how badly they are being ripped off and their wages still aren't enough, my entire monthly outgoings are £400, like $500. If I was in Shartistan it would be like $3000

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