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As Above So Below Edition

Welcome to /Deer/!

>What is /Deer/?
/Deer/ is a thread for fans of Alastor, the Radio Demon, from Amazon Prime’s hit series Hazbin Hotel. /Deer/ is a safe space to discuss, promote, and create content for our favorite deer man!

>Who we are…
We are deer friends from all walks of life who come together in this thread to share content related to Alastor. We are inclusive and welcome everyone who is interested in the Red Stag.

>Who are the Alasisters/Stag Sisters?
Alasisters/Stag Sisters are a collection of devoted riako yumes who make up the Cult of the Red Stag. They honor their F/O by partaking in blood and sex rituals on his behalf.

>What are the rules?
* Respect all deer friends.
* Respect our husbando.
* Ignore all bait posters.
* Stay on topic. This is a solo Alastor thread and ship art/discussion is not allowed.
* Keep it varied! A healthy thread has a number of topics.
* No ship warfare, ship material belongs on /hhg/.
* We do not kink shame, however NSFW content is not allowed. Do not force your kinks on others. Go to /trash/ for pornographic content and discussion.
* Lolisho must be SFW.

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>Deer related links:
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>>4015946
My family wouldn't take too kindly to their daughter having an affinity for a brown man, but I think they largely expect me to be weird at this point. My brother's wife watches a lot of animated indie stuff and is big into fandoms, so she'd know about Hazbin I'm sure. Not the kind of awkward conversation I'd want lol.

I think they have this doujin available from OtakuRepublic as well? I'll snatch it up if I have some extra cash laying around.
>>4015947
Unfortunately not. <.<
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>>4015953
I haven’t checked on there in ages, it’s really expensive on there though, I got it for about £8 shipped in Japan. My dad always used to be me and my sister going out with a black man, but he’s chilled out considerably on that front. I don’t think he’d be funny about a cartoon though, just think it was kind of childish and dumb.
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>>4015962
Yeah, it's something like $40, so I'll see if I can't get it cheaper somewhere else, but shota Alastor is beautiful.

I've only ever been attracted to white guys, but I'm ultimately asexual and married, so I think it would be surprising to them to find my daki and collection. If it got back to my dad he'd probably make an issue, but I don't share a lot of my private life with my family for that reason.
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>>4015969
It’s only really worth is because I know I have a load of stuff ready to ship with tenso, if it was just one book they’d still charge 3000 yen for shipping. There are probably cheaper shopping services for individual doujins, but I can’t be bothered to research.

I’m mainly attracted to white guys, though I don’t mind mixed guys if they have the right features. I saw a guy on hinge the other week who could have done a great human Al cosplay, but I was too scared to message him. Could have been living the dream.
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Big deer…
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Apologies for the not-deer pic, but thoughts on Alastor using his androgynous good looks to seduce men in order to kill them?
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>>4016084
Now posting some deer to atone for the deerless pic.
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>>4016084
He could do it, though I don't think he would realize what he is really doing to the guys lol
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>>4016094
Even cuter if he unintentionally seduces them just by being himself without wondering why so many perverted old men are happy to follow him to his bayou without question.
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Deer tummy.
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>>4016099
Yummy yummy
>>4016096
It’s like a super power for him to attract almost everyone. Course It backfires on him too as well…
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I love the idea of Alastor accidentally seducing people he wants to murder. I don't think he would do it on purpose, but he was a handsome and charming man, so it's easy to see how someone could get that impression. I also imagine if he ever found out that the people who followed him into the bayou did so because they thought they were getting lucky, their deaths would be that much more brutal.
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The creature.
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>>4015980
Shipping will always be a bitch no matter how you slice it, sites like OtakuRepublic jack up the price and then offer 'free' shipping for an item that's like $10-15 at the artists booth. Being a westerner is a curse sometimes.

My husband favors the original human Al design, so I can't complain too much. If he'd have done a cosplay he'd of killed it. At least publicly, ha.
>>4016084
I feel like whenever I see people saying this I just lowkey know they're into gay porn and it's bleeding into their interpretations lmao, same as the 'casting couch' stuff. My actual answer? Viv put no thought into it making sense. That said, as someone who lives in this part of the world, the woods are a stone's throw from just about anywhere, and odds are he killed them and then transported their bodies to his shack. A guy walking home from a plantation dinner in the 1920s would certainly trot through some muck. As an asexual myself it often goes completely over my head when people are attracted to me, I don't think it's something I could have used to my advantage because it never occurred to me that people were checking me out unless someone pointed it out later. That's a pretty common experience with aces, so I doubt Alastor used his looks to lure people, he probably relied more on charm if anything, or catching people alone. I think if Alastor knew any of the men he killed wanted him sexually he would have made their deaths all the more brutal.
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>>4016182
I really wish I'd stayed in contact with my old uni friends, a good few of them are still in Japan. It would make getting merch much easier.

I'm quite good at compartmentalising that kind of thing. Things that Alastor would actually do vs things that are hot in porn. I saw someone say that in the human Al card, it looks like he was assaulted because his shirt is ripped and he looks frenzied instead of calm and composed. It's 100% a scenario I'd read about, but it's a bit much to read into a trading card imo.
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Oh, I forgot! I got a couple new pins this morning, so here is my current collection. I now have two tails to flick, so much fun.
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>>4016204
Very nice!
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>>4016217
Thanks. Oh my gosh that poor cat, let him out!
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>>4016198
Same. I used to have a penpal who owned a doujin shop years ago. :|

I'm the same way, there's so many things I'd find hot that are waaay OOC lol, I try to keep the horny stuff in it's own little corner in my head so it doesn't cloud my perception of canon. At least in theory. :) As far as the card goes? Yeah, I'd attribute a torn shirt to a struggle if someone is fighting for their lives, and Alastor's expression to a guy who's really enjoying killing somebody. Seeing that card and having a mind that immediately goes to Al possibly getting raped is peak gooner brain lol. You gotta love it.
>>4016204
Absolutely beautiful collection so far! Very tasteful as well. I love the flicky tails so much.
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>>4016182
>no fun allowed: the post
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>>4016230
>ask an opinion
>get one
Sometimes people aren't going to agree with you. Sometimes they don't want to goon with you. That's life. I'm not stopping you from coming up with any headcanons. Go wild.
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>>4016228
I kind of rolled my eyes because even my brain didn't go there and I have a massive rape fetish. I'm all for someone writing or drawing it, but conflating it with canon is a little silly.

And thanks. I'm especially pleased with the hunterflowerpin one, it's bigger than I thought. Definitely worth the price. They'll tide me over until my cards arrive, at least.
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>>4016232
I just think you're too quick to write it off when we see him utilize his appeal to manipulate Vox in canon
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>>4016235
Hopefully you'll get some good pulls with the cards. I didn't invest in any since I don't really care that much for the other characters, not worth the gamble with my luck.
>>4016237
No, I'm asexual and only repeating the experience that the overwhelming majority of asexuals have when it comes to understanding other's attractions of them. We never see Alastor trying to seduce Vox or manipulate him sexually. Odds are Alastor doesn't recognize how he affects others in that way.
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>>4016238
I kind of got caught up in the hype, I'll be happy if I get any Alastor cards. I figure I can either make my money back on the other characters, or trade them to get what I want. Not having them while everyone else is opening them is making me antsy. I gotta flick some deer tails to stay focused.
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>>4016182
>I feel like whenever I see people saying this I just lowkey know they're into gay porn and it's bleeding into their interpretations lmao, same as the 'casting couch' stuff
it does get that way, alot of the replies to the xitter post where a bit cringe.
>guy walking home from a plantation dinner in the 1920s would certainly trot through some muck.
no thought put into it for sure, just show off the human design and move onto the next thing, very sad but at least it keeps vivzes hands away from molesting things too much
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>>4016253
Love this art. Self summoning Alastor sounds fun
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>>4016269
I think he’s supposed to be trying to summon Lucifer, it actually Alastor being able to commune with his demon form is a really cool concept.
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>>4016253
The pain of ordering things from the states. :( Hopefully they come in soon and you can give us an update.
>>4016258
It's a compartmentalization issue, as we mentioned earlier itt. I think all of us here have some pretty extreme kinks, so mo judgement, but there's a time and a place for it. A lot of people on Twitter will ask questions under the guise of canon discussion that are thinly veiled attempts at getting people to discuss their fetishes lol. It happened to me once when someone asked if it was common for white men to 'take sexual advantage of' brown men during the 1920s for jobs. I gave them the truthful answer which is 'lol no', and they got annoyed with me. I mean, if you want to kink point go ahead, but don't be surprised when you ask a 'legitimate' question and get an actual answer, heh.
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>>4016273
>no judgement
Phone posting is a struggle.
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>>4016273
Everything from the US seems to be expensive to ship and takes a long time right now. It’s annoying but, as long as I get it in the end, it’s good. I’ll live vicariously through our Voxfriend on /hhg/ for now. I shouldn’t really be complaining, the Good Smile figure should come in the next few days as well. I’m definitely not starved for deer merch!
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>>4016273
The funny buck breaking shouldn’t be canon, and should remain a meme for the show people however confuse canon and memes since the canon barely even matters now…
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>>4016276
Has anyone gotten any rares on /hhg/? I haven't been paying super close attention. Let us know the quality of the figure, I've held out on getting any.
>>4016292
In fairness, canon is so bad that I understand why someone would want to expand upon it.
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>>4016303
Iirc only one person posted their cards, they got some of the ultra rares but no secret rares. I hope the figure is alright, I love my nendoroid but one of the antlers popped out while I was taking it out of the box which was a bit shit, they sent me another part but it arrived after I had to go back to uni so idk if it’s any better. A lot of people are saying that the heads snap off the monitor top figures easily too, the necks are really thin and they don’t balance that well so they fall and break. I’m being super careful with mine, but the risk is there.

Btw if you guys are interested, the Banpresto nun plushies are up on US Amazon.
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>>4016313
I'm more of a pin/charm person, so unless they come out with some human Al figures (which I highly doubt) I'll probably pass. I like the monitor top figures, but with a toddler it'd get broken in a heartbeat.
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>Banpresto nun plushies are up on US Amazon.
they are cute...damn.
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>>4016232
>ask a question
Uh, the anon you're responding to there isn't me btw (I'm the one who asked >>4016084). As an asexual person myself, I've definitely weaponized my appearance to get things without following through (even get a little bit of a high off the power through it), but each ace person is different. I'm always interested to hear your opinions on deer, Millie.
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>>4016393
I just realized I dropped the 'for' in 'ask for an opinion'. I'm a tard. Anyway, I meant it more in a rhetorical sense, like 'people will have different opinions on a topic if someone asks', since they were calling me a party pooper for not automatically assuming it was a sex thing lol. I'd say your experience is a bit out of the norm based on the things I've read/experienced, but asexuality isn't one size fits all, of course. I imagine that does make one feel powerful. With Al, eh, I can see him charming women possibly, as we see in the prequel comic, but I just don't think it would occur to him to use sexuality to try to lure people in. During the first fight sequence we see him looking genuinely uncomfortable around Val and his smoke, and the 'can't get it up' dig was probably hinting at Alastor's disinterest in sex. Based on these things I get the impression that overt sensuality with people he's not romantically interested in would make him uncomfortable, therefore it wouldn't be something he'd rely on to get closer to people. But that's just my opinion.
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>>4016411
Not that anon but I interpreted that post when I saw it as Alastor unintentionally luring closeted men in with his good looks rather than doing in on purpose. I could be reading it wrong but I saw it as the guy went along because he was attracted to Alastor not that Al was stringing him along or even aware of it. But like you said I doubt Viv was even thinking of how Alastor got him alone in the woods in the first place.
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>>4016417
I mean...It was the same guy who was racist to him at the party. I doubt he'd be going into the woods with a guy who he'd just spilled wine on and laughed at for the prospect of gay sex. It seems like a stretch. Viv just wanted quick exposition and never thinks things through. Though as I said, everyone's plantation backs up to the woods here, going to the edge of the bayou for a smoke isn't that far fetched.
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>>4016411
>I'd say your experience is a bit out of the norm based on the things I've read/experienced, but asexuality isn't one size fits all, of course
It's funny because I would force myself into sexual situations whenever I went to parties to feel normal and "fix" myself, but I would never want to go through with anything, nor would I feel anything from it. So mostly I'd use my charms to swindle drunk dudes of money or free drinks. Luckily I always went with groups of friends so it never got dangerous.
>>4016417
I first assumed it was Alastor sort of weaponizing his looks to lure people away to murder them, but I also like the idea of it being entirely unintentional, with him being unaware of his looks or how they'd be alluring to other people.
I just think deer is very pretty.
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>>4016411
>but I just don't think it would occur to him to use sexuality to try to lure people in
I could see him batting his eyelashes and invading people's spaces, as he does in canon, and not really being cognizant that this is actually flirty behavior
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>>4016439
Ah, you gave me flashbacks to high school parties where everyone was hooking up and I would retire to the kitchen to awkwardly stand around. I got set up with a date for prom and during the after party everyone started drinking/banging and my date and I just sat around and discussed movies. I kind of felt bad for wanting nothing to do with sex. That same night I had a girl try to have sex with me after I went to bed (I was staying with a friend who was hosting the party), it was very uncomfortable. <.<
>>4016441
Oh definitely. I'm not sure if he'd be different with women, he seems to touch Charlie a lot, but he's unintentionally flirty often I'd imagine.
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I wish there was a way to just look up artists on twitter without seeing any text posts.

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>>4016444
I thought I was asexual in High School but I had such a fear of going to Hell I didn’t even entertain the thought of being an attracted to another woman so I assumed since I wasn’t interested in men I was not interested in anyone at all. Even now I’m more interested in things like snuggling with a woman than sex but I consider that more a low sex drive for myself and wouldn’t claim I’m ace.
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>>4016316
I'd like to see a human Al figure, though idk how likely it is. I'd like to see other characters get stuff too, even Charlie gets hardly anything compared to Alastor.
>>4016455
>without seeing any text posts
Oh god yes, that would be so much better. I just want to see pretty pictures, not read about how Alastor's shadow should be female because someone headcanons him as trans. To be fair, my brain naturally filters most blocks of text on there.
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>>4016467
NTA but the most grating thing is seeing hate for a ship I'm searching or hate for Alastor when I'm searching him. No matter how quickly I scroll, my eyes always inevitably catch a stupid fucking tweet filled with bullshit opinions and it annoys me to no end
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>>4016475
I wish people would have the decency to censor the character/ship they’re talking about so it doesn’t show up in searches. But, fandom etiquette is kind of dead. The amount of people who post a disproportionate amount of hate is alarming, if they put that much energy into content they did like everyone would have a much better time.
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>>4016478
I’ll be honest I don’t even mind ship hate and seeing someone say they dislike a ship doesn’t bother me but I’m starting to find it really grating how many people are trying to imply someone is morally a bad person for enjoying a ship they don’t like. An example someone saying you’re homophobic for shipping charlastor, are racist if you ship radiostatic, etc. I might be reaching but it feels like it has a sinister undertone where they’re trying to make it socially acceptable to engage in extreme bullying behaviors towards people who ship something they don’t like. I would probably care less about this kind of behavior if we didn’t live in the era of online witch hunts. The worst part is that I wish I could say it was mainly coming from one group but I have seen almost every Alastor ship having members that engage in it and it’s exhausting.
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To this day, I think one of the worst takes I've ever seen regarding Alastor was some deer hater on Twitter insisting that, if he wasn't asexual, he would definitely be a rapist like Val. Very grateful to S2 mostly putting a stop to all the retarded "he was mean to Husk once, he's LITERALLY worse than Valentino!!" tweets
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>>4016455
I got bullied a lot for being 'lesbian' because I turned every guy down and generally wasn't interested in dating. I considered the possibility that I might be sapphic, but I wasn't attracted to women either...just male fictional characters. At least until I met my ex, though as an adult I recognize that fiasco wasn't the healthiest. I have a decent sex drive, surprisingly, just no desire for other people. I'd identify as gray asexual, but if something happened to my husband (God forbid) I can't ever imagine having or wanting sex again.
>>4016467
Probably unlikely to get a human Al, the lack of Charlie stuff is kind of surprising though. Especially for a 'female led' show, heh.
>>4016480
I just try to avoid ships altogether. I care not to see any art or hate. It's incredibly difficult right now to avoid it, so I'm mostly sticking to our little corner here where I don't have to interact with any of it. Hou get attacked for liking one ship and dogpiled for disliking another, it's very tiresome and I ultimately only care about deer.
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>>4016480
It would be fine if ship hate just ended at "I don't like x". That's entirely reasonable, you don't have to like everything. Also, if someone doesn't like something and is just trying to avoid it, it's shitty to start shoving it down their throat. You can find something problematic about any ship if you reach far enough, and there are retards in every ship doing dumb things. The problem is they tend to shout the loudest, so everyone gets tarred with the same brush. You're right that it's exhausting, I just want to see Alastor kiss a bunch of different people, not compete over who's the most in the right.
>>4016481
That's uh, quite a take. People do get hysterical over the one time Alastor threatened Husk, and forget the rest of the show where they seem to get along fairly well. Husk made a dig that he knew was going to hurt Alastor, bringing up his deal with Rosie. He has to be fairly comfortable and close with Alastor to bring that up. Would Angel do the same with Val? Doubt it.
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On a happier note, he arrived today! The staff is removable, and oh my god his waist is smaller than his legs. I don’t know where I’m going to put him yet, my shelves are pretty full. I might keep him on my desk.
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>>4016491
Happy day! Keep him as a desk buddy!
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>>4016491
He's beautiful. (He wouldn't last 2 seconds in my house before that waist snapped.)
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I realise I haven’t shown you guys my shelves in a while, I rearranged them when I got back after Christmas.
>>4016498
He will have to watch over me as I do my assignments. Hopefully he’s not too distracting.
>>4016499
I keep pinching his waist between my fingers, it’s so tiny and satisfying.
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>>4016503
Hopefully his gaze helps you Lel.
>>4016499
Deer abuse…
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>>4016508
I wonder if he could help me with my assignments, do you think he's any good at maths kek? Who am I kidding, he would just be a nuisance...
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>>4016509
he would convince you that your wrong answers are right and right answers wrong just to troll
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>>4016547
I’d believe him as well. He’s too cute to lie to me.
>of course Alastor, 2+2=5
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>>4016549
What a cruel deer…
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>>4016557
Cruel, yes, but he is pretty. He would probably be more into my waves module, I might get some real help with that.
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>>4016559
Wave modules?sounds interesting! Completely off topic but I feel Alastor would be entranced my anything overly complex and mechanical, like steam engines or his radios. Though I joke about Alastor being helpless with things from time to time, I do feel he would be great with the wiring and the electrical engineering
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>>4016566
I think the same thing, I'm crap at anything practical or to do with engineering, and I sometimes imagine Alastor explaining how things work to me. I think I'd end up exasperating him, but I would hope he would be patient with me for a while since I'm very willing to listen to him.
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>>4016503
I think my favorite pieces are the framed human/demon portraits up top, beautiful work. Are you planning on expanding it further?
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Doing anything else instead of working on the assignment I have due in <4 hours, here's Alastor murdering someone.

>>4016586
They're really pretty, I like the symmetry between them. I need to get frames for more of my prints. I have a bunch of standees coming, mostly, idk where I'm going to put them. I do have 2 more empty shelves...
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>it's a day where I open twitter and there's loads of great deer art
A good day!
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>>4016619
They finally finished it! Very nice
>>4016694
A great day!
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>>4016619
Stab stab stab! He's beautiful.
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>>4016730
I wish he would stab me like that...
>>4016708
An awesome day for deer.
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This man could never do anything wrong.
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>>4016888
Never ever, Also give me 5 to bake a /trash/ deer
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