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Man I miss this show
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same energy
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>>153225454
What if Helga got a Presidential spinoff?
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https://www.reddit.com/r/HeyArnold/s/Y2XxmLdoia
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>>153231348
https://www.webtoons.com/en/canvas/hey-arnold-8th-grade-fancomic/there s-something-going-on-between-arnold -and-helga-/viewer?title_no=966249& episode_no=1
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>>153225333
Phoebe is better
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>>153227187
We almost DID get a Helga spin-off. It was going to be called "The Patakis" and supposed to be about Helga as a teenager in High School. Most of the cast is still around except Arnold moved away. It was supposed to be more adult than Hey Arnold!. They tried to get it on Nick and Nite but it was "too dark" for them and when they tried pitching it to MTV they passed on it too since they thought it was too similar to Daria.
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>>153233518
Within the "mini-Bible" for the show it says Helga's mom is on the "road to recovery" from her alcoholism but it sounds like a tough road so I'd expect relapses and such. Bob has expanded into more than just beepers with stuff like phones and DVDs. One of the more interesting things is Helga's sister ends up a struggling actress and doesn't seem so perfect anymore:
>"With an increased level of neediness and a different boyfriend each and every week, Helga's actually begun to view her perfect sister as a bit of a loser. In fact, we sense that Bob and Miriam are getting a little sick of Olga's act."
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>>153225333
best girl
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>>153233518
Can understand why they didn't pick it up.
>No Arnold romance
>dark themes of alcoholism and the older sister being a failure after being the shining light of the family for people who watch the original as kids
>Helga only being 15 limits how mature you can make the show
It's a show without a target market, too kiddy but also too mature.
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>>153234460
>No Arnold romance.
Helga's obsession over Arnold would have carried over into the spin-off, even if Arnold had moved away. Pic-related. Sounds like it would have been kind of like how Doug episodes are framed around him writing in his journal.
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my guess is the intended ending of Jungle movie was Arnold moving back with his parents to San Lorenzo. without Arnold in the city Helga becomes the protagonist ergo the Patakis series
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>>153231863
You forgot the best part
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>>153225333
Helga is amazing and I want more characters like her on tv. Girls are supposed to thirst for boys, and have flaws and need guidance sometimes, but still be able to function with independence and female instinct.
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>>153231720
imagine the kind of psychopath you'd have to be to say "the government has authorized me to interfere in your showing kindness to each other, despite that literally being protected by the constitution" as if anyone but you will know whether you did it.
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i hope this is somewhere other than twatter
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comic for ants?
Oh nvm I found this on Webtoon.
>>153232448
I love that he's trying to make her admit it. Good on ya, Shortman.
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I found some art bulk uploaded to DA just today
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>>153235732
https://www.deviantart.com/senspring
OK I lied it wasn't uploaded just today. I was looking at the wrong date
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>>153235976
oooh the small lower face really works on her..
it really goes to show how we like funny lookin girls, but we have limits. In cartoons, we don't wanna see jowl lines, nostril corners, or simpson lips. Fanartists usually figure out how to smooth those out first.
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>>153236659
nope just, uh, shall we say, someone else working on comics that attempt to have a similar vibe and make an old cartoon way hotter and lovier... just game recognizing game, as the thugs say.
Both of us are following another artist on DA who was my inspiration, so
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>>153236648
Eeeexactly
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>>153236631
I guess you could say Arnold is a shortman
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>>153234515
>we end each episode with Helga finishing her letter to Arnold and then filing it away with a million other letters we see she has never mailed.
Depressing and psychotic. Makes me wonder why they thought the female stalker theme was either popular or funny. Nowadays it just seems sad and deranged.
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>>153236873
It was sad and deranged back then. But creeper fem stalkers in training and foids took to it.
Even giving the canon ugliest girl in their school,her, an improbable stalker didnt mske things better. It made her look worse.
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>>153236873
Anon here's a tip
if something used to be one way, and "nowadays it just seems" different?
well,.... ask yourself how many times that has ever helped. Ask if anyone is happier 'nowadays'.
>>153236903
it's sad because she should just tell him, and she's deranged because of the crushing weight of it. But girls are supposed to be stalkers. that is nature. Denying that is what led to the age of all attention being considered harassment, which directly led to the modern day where nobody is with ANYBODY
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You have to remember that these are kids. A kid character having a crush on another kid character from school has been a common trope for a long time, like with Charlie Brown and the little red headed girl. But usually they're too shy to ask them out on a date and not mature enough to realize maybe it's not their "one true love" and maybe they can find somebody else. So it's not as creepy as if an adult was doing it.
I remember some Chinese kid would write stories where he would get with his crush and literally kill me because he was jealous I would hang out with his crush often. That's just stupid kid/teenager shit. Anyway if we're talking about being weird and creepy, writing letters to Arnold is not as messed up in my opinion as Helga making that statue of Arnold out of his used chewing gum in the original series.
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>>153236927
>But girls are supposed to be stalkers. that is nature.
Look I dont want to drift too off topic or go off on a tangent debate but this is only true in certain western cultures. Believe it or not but there are in fact cultures where its not only socially acceptable for women to approach men with romantic attention but also the expectation. Which sex does the approaching is more of a cultural trait than some inbuilt biological one.
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>>153237048
>Helga making that statue of Arnold out of his used chewing gum in the original series.
Well yeah thats what i mean. That clearly goes far and beyond the scope of a crush and she gets a pass because of gender double standards. If it had been a male character doing that it would be considered a serial killer tier red flag. But because its a girl it was played for laughs.
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>>153236873
There are way worse outlets. Plus it's a fun way to start and end episodes.
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>>153237048
yeah the shrine is definitely meant to be the part where she goes over the top. But you can't blame her.
>>153237069
>believe it or not, the thing you claim is universal natural law is.. actually practiced by some humans!
I believe it, anon. I'm aware.
Sometimes it's not so much the female as the female's PARENTS, but same basic idea.
'approach' is not really the point. The point is selection. The males would select ANY females if it was our job. Females are choosy, so we have to be the ones who show off. A female latching onto a male and choosing him, however that manifests, is how it is meant to be. Be it stalking or 'i choo-choo-choose you' cards.
Then, having been selected, his job is to purchase a small gift for her to show he won't abandon her. Then they move on from there. Obviously there might be (should be) a lot of dating before that part, but that's the thing about choosing, there's tiers of it.
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>>153237119
the part you're not noticing is that something a girl did.. is played for laughs, at all.
At the time, zero girl characters were given laughable flaws. nor would they be again for another decade and change. It was seen as beneath them. THAT was the double standard. And Helga didn't follow it.
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Would she keep the unibrow when she's older or no?
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>>153238041
>Would she keep the unibrow when she's older or no?
I could see it going either way, also nice art you do that yourself?
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>>153238041
I like to think her hormones kinda even out once she spends more time inhaling Arnold's pheromones. Her body's just a little confused right now, too much testosterone. Hence the hostility.
Then again, she is eastern european, so she might just be naturally hairy.. in which case i'm sure that's not a REAL unibrow, just a little hair in between her brows, exaggerated in a cartoon (especially since she's blonde). No big deal, nothing compared to a football head.
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>>153238379
Found it!
>$49.99
Eww...
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In the future what-if we see in >>153225454 we can see that she doesn't have the unibrow. As an adult I can see her putting more effort into plucking it and trying to look nicer, if at least for Arnold. That's the type of thing older women do, not so much little girls.
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Loaves_my on X. Not much /co/ stuff tho
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it feels wrong but whatever
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it's not. posting is. captchas are quick
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more helga fanart? because that'd be rad.
I just meant where can I find girls like this
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>>153247599
His interpretation of Helga brain turning off.
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Helga my wife.
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>>153247568
Arnold's head is hard to draw at an angle. So are hands
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>>153249167
Yeah not sure if my hears really in it. Fucking website really threw me off today. . . . yesterday?
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>>153249167
oh shit, I'm all caught up! NO! She has to make more!! hmm okay her deviantart does have drafts of the next chapter, but.. it's not enough!
>>153249174
I like how it's not good vs bad, it's passion vs logic.
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>>153249293
i worry her heart would actually explode.
that's probably just my extremely prematurely aged no-health-havin' ass thinking about how hard it is to jerk off when too much heartbeat makes me suddenly too exhausted to keep moving my arms. I guess that's what onaholes are for, but that feels like giving up.
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I've had some Arnoldesque experiences in my day. There's nothing quite as wonderful as having a girl you can tell is a simmering teakettle, and just nudging her gently to open up, to admit it. To become vulnerable in ways that her shitty family would never allow because they're such assholes.
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I miss Jebbie. Dunno why she just deleted everything and left the internet. Was it IRL work related?
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>>153250265
wouldn't shock me.
This is pretty amazing. I wonder what Big Bob did. It'd have to be pretty fucking extreme, like he emptied Helga's college fund savings (that she funded herself) to buy a brewery or something.
>Hey! It's 2000-something, beepers aren't selling anymore! I gotta get more people soused up enough that they buy 'em anyway.
>You (hic!) tell 'im, honey...
>See? Like that. THAT is the level of inebriation that keeps me in business. Now get outta my house before I twist that tiny cap off with a bottle opener. Your little girlfriend Olga's got to get ready for her new job as a beer inspector.
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Kinda want a version of this in the style of the comic that's been posted.
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I feel like the first few times she'd be super awkward and accidentally faint before things really got going. Once she had time to acclimate to the fact that her dream had essentially become true, she'd shatter Arnold's pelvisthen have sweet half conscious post sex cuddling while softly weeping tears of joy before finally passing out
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What's the context for this if there is any?
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Hellga and Heavenga
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>>153261545
their Helga is supposed to be on the beefy side of things, which considering what a slab of meat Bob is I'd say is a perfectly valid alternate way to interpret an older Helga
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>>153261611
and one more from said artist involving random crossover with another Nick show
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Really glad this thread is still up. Gives me more reason to watch the show again and draw more Helga
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>>153262437
>Looks more like a Patty + Helga fusion
I mean Helga and Patty already have some visual similarities so a more beefed up Helga having an even closer resemblance isn't really surprising
>>153262498
>I don't think that's why that artist drew her like that, though
if you're trying to suggest its a trans thing I doubt it
>>153262562
>objectively yes, she rocks that style.
the Olga hairstyle is a great fit for Helga ironically, always thought it'd be more interesting for Helga and Olga to properly reconcile as sisters post TJM(rather than how most fan works have them interact), with Helga picking up some cues from Olga on how to be more open with her feminine side(and in turn Olga picking up from Helga on how to dial back some of her overly perfectionist aspects)
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yeah you do a great Helga
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>>153262667
i rewatch the show every so often, Helga always holds up the best of any of it. But there's a lot of cartoon cheesiness that does not so much hold up.
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What makes you say that?
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>>153262811
It's weird people think Helga needs to be more feminine (or thinks she does, or whatever) given that her initial schtick is "Despite being a really mean bully, she dresses like a cutesy little girl in a pink dress with pigtails and a bow"
and then you find out.. she dresses like a little kid because back in preschool, Arnold complimented her outfit. and now suddenly there's layers to that. The tough girl who desperately wants to seem tough to most people, but wants the boy she loves to see her as that vulnerable little girl again. The one who had to WALK to preschool because her parents were busy being asshats.
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>>153262861
mind you I mean not just in how she dresses, but in how she acts, sure some of her tomboy aspects are an authentic part of her(such as her interests in sports and wrestling) but a lot of it is part of the bully façade she's built up around herself since preschool, and I think there's a lot of story potential in her learning to throw out said façade now that she and Arnold are together post TJM(but then I'm not a fan of how a lot of post TJM fanworks needlessly drag out the development of her and Arnold's relationship with drama* and trying to hide that they're even together from everyone), and I think improving her relationship with Olga would play a key role in this
*way I see it there's been plenty of drama in their relationship leading up to TJM, so while there shouldn't be no drama at all it definitely gets overdone in the existing fanworks
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>No just the standard tumblr thing of making a skinny character fat
nah artist directly confirmed that she's supposed to be beefy not fat, its just a softer style so she's not rippling with muscle definition
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>>153263317
>sure, I just meant clothing and hairstyle. Everyone acts like she'd be so resistant to it, but she's already dressed.. like THAT.
you aren't wrong but I do think the attitude aspect is pretty important to the equation as it effects how people perceive her, for example see Arnold's Valentine where the way Arnold acts around "Cecile" is quite different from how he usually does around Helga cause she drops most of the bully act while playing the Cecile role and it definitely isn't because Helga got dolled up for the role considering she got similarly dolled up in another episode where they went to a fancy restaurant but had her usual walls up so they interacted mostly as normal
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>As believable as Cartman saying he's big boned
its honestly rather in line with the show's style, even blatantly muscular characters often tend to not have all that much muscle definition drawn on them
>>153263663
Sheena was an unfortunately underused character among the girl members of Arnold's friends group, shame she got left out of TJM for the most part
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>>153263663
and in Helga's defense, chocolate and tapioca are both laxatives. One by way of soluble fiber, the other by way of a stimulant.
vegetables (insoluble fiber) are a double-edged sword at best when it comes to constipation, as they will most likely just ferment into gas and BLOW your hard, impacted feces out at high pressure, instead of softening them the way oats would.
Just a tip from an old piece of shit who's been to the to'let a few times in the last 4 decades.
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Totally, I mean that is a thing. I actually meant that when I brought it up, I meant times when she worries she doesn't LOOK girly enough, specifically. like in that amazing fancomic. she's so focused on being pretty and it's like bitch, you used to LIVE in pink.
The attitude thing, that is a whole OTHER level of self-consciousness...
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>>153225333
extremely rare OT3 that I think would make for a fun story
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>>153265042
Yes, and no it's actually not cuckqueening. The cuckqueening thing is all about the humiliation aspect of not being good enough for your man that he needs another woman to rail cause you're worthless.
This is more my man is so fucking awesome that he can fuck anyone he wants because I love him and think he deserves it. It's more pride in the man than humiliation in the woman.
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I mean
for 99% of history, to cuckold someone was to cheat without his knowledge. I think you're roping in the bizarre and very likely fictional new fetish of being aware of it and enjoying the humiliation aspect.
But that said, what you're suggesting here is something I don't even have a name for. It's so nonsensical I can't grok it.
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>That's the wrong HOLE, Football Head!
>... Hey, who said you could pull out? You got yourself into this mess and you're sticking it out til the mission's complete, bucko.
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>>153265502
>I mean for 99% of history, to cuckold someone was to cheat without his knowledge.
I think a lot of people forget, or don't know that it comes from the cuckoo, and that it's not even about cheating, but about raising someone elses child without knowing.
Dale Gribble is a quintessential cuckold.
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>>153265597
yes exactly.
Well actually it derives from the old habit of keeping track of which roosters you have castrated by grafting their foot-spikes onto their combs, so you could let this rooster strut around, turning on the hens, getting them to lay eggs, but he's the fool because none of them are his. But yes, cuckoo is probably related.
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>under what circumstances would Helga ever allow that?
that's part of the fun in the scenario, figuring out how that'd happen, in fact I think I've got a rough kernel of an idea on how to set it up based on reversing what you said about someone being the "pet" in the situation;
>starting point AU's prior to TJM
>Arnold and Rhonda end up dating, which of course causes Helga to amp up her bullying act towards Arnold more than she has in a good while
>Rhonda now has a vested reason to figure out just what exactly is Helga's problem with Arnold alongside her usual interests in personal drama
>doing some snooping around Helga's room while Helga is out results in Rhonda finding Helga's shrines and poetry
>she now knows Helga's deepest secret, that she's madly in love with Arnold
>soon enough she confronts Helga about this with proof
>Rhonda makes it clear that if Helga tries to pummel her for this or otherwise seek revenge that Rhonda will ensure that it gets leaked out to not just the school but all of Hillwood
>Helga's now trapped between being bound to Rhonda's whims and facing a public humiliation that her sanity would not be able to survive
>however Rhonda has a spicy proposition as the carrot to her blackmail stick
>she's legitimately touched and impressed by how deep Helga's love for Arnold is(even if the shrine part is a bit creepy)
>so she proposes that they secretly share Arnold
>Helga reluctantly agrees to this, even as she realizes she's been played by Rhonda
>as for Arnold, he's surprised at Rhonda's proposal of Helga secretly joining their relationship and even more surprised at Helga admitting that she's in love with him
>between the two of them it's hard for Arnold to say no and with only a bit of resistance agrees to give it a try
and of course from there the relationship would evolve and grow
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Makes your girl hood tremble
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oh? I guess that's possible, but it's certainly not what I read in the Straight Dope, and Unca Cecil is not in the habit of saying with confidence what only may be.
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No sir, I don't like it.
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Fucking loved the running gag of the coach not remembering the word 'sychronized' and instead using words not typically used on kids' shows.
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hehe, nekkid grandma
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Would Helga even want children?
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>>153275007
No, because then people would find out she has a crush on Arnold