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>Willy Wonka has returned to his factory after years behind bars for the crime of turning a child into a blueberry.
>Determined to add a little sweetness to a bitter world, only one thing stands in his way: teenager Charlie Paley and a new generation of "rotten" kids.
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>>153252874
>>Willy Wonka has returned to his factory after years behind bars for the crime of turning a child into a blueberry.
Holy fuck
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>>153252874
>Willy Wonka has returned to his factory after years behind bars for the crime of turning a child into a blueberry.
This pitch feels like they watched the youtube videos about how long a fictional character's sentence would be if they actually had to stand trial for their crimes
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>Charlie Paley
Isn't the whole point of the original that Charlie Bucket gets the factory in the end because Wonka is getting old and needs a successor? So this should be Pail vs Bucket, Wonka now being an irrelevance.
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I could almost tolerate this if they go full ham and have him busted out of jail by a SWAT team of Oompa Loompas with candy guns.
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What’s interesting is this has been long in development, I thought it was scrapped. It was supposed to be a tv show and didn’t have Sony attached to it, I don’t think.
Maybe after KPDH they greenlit more projects and did a big retooling of this.
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why is she built like that
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Do my eyes deceive me or is he white? Netflix turned a black character white? After they already turned him black from white in the concepts? Even though he was originally meant to be black in Dahl's initial drafts? Before the agent turned him white
Could this be a sign of a new era
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a few of them
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>>153252874
That background looks AI genned as fuck, if I'm wrong then it seems like AI's "style" is actually seeping into actual concept artists' work, God help us all. That or they're going for some meta joke, pic related.
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>>153253428
>giving a black kid the surname "Paley"
kek.
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Part of me delights in seeing Wonka story being disgraced and strip-mined like all the other franchises because it might cause berryfuckers a modicum of distress, but then I remember they don't actually care about the story or any of the actual source material and probably don't even know what the fucking story is about. Still, out of sheer spite I hope they rape the whole fucking demonic premise until it's unrecognizable.
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>>153253477
got leaked here a while back, i nabbed a few shots from it that looked interesting to me for art study
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>>153253364
>Inside the factory is whimsical but the outside world it isn’t
Exactly. There is a binary separation between whimsical and mundane, and that's what made it so special. Willy Wonka was essentially an overseer of a fantasy world, and all the punishments the kids endured were very Aesop-coded. The entire story becomes a fairy tale for Charlie Bucket, and at no point does the real world encroach upon the world of the factory (in the original novel, I am purposefully excluding The Great Glass Elevator because, while it's a fun book too, the line between fantasy and reality is blurred a little more). The very concept of Willy fucking Wonka being sent to prison is beyond stupid.
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>The very concept of Willy fucking Wonka being sent to prison is beyond stupid.
I’m not watching this slop but it is not necessarily. The factory is locked in to be its own world but it’s not its own entity, it is still under the jurisdiction of the outside world, so if something happened in those gates going to the outside world he would be responsible, which again permanently altering a kid in a potentially deadly scenario would fall into that. And with how cunty the families are who were invited they would realistically try any shit to get him locked up instead of learning.
It’s a grim interpretation of the themes but not exactly unrealistic to the contrasts of the bitter real world vs the attempted escapist fantasy Willy makes the factory to avoid it but can only go so far
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>Willy Wonka (Waititi) has spent the years since the Golden Ticket contest behind bars (not the chocolate kind) for the crime of turning a child into a blueberry. Having served his time, Wonka returns to his factory determined to add a little sweetness to a bitter world. But one thing stands in his way: teenager Charlie Paley (Connor) and his friends. Facing eviction, this next generation of “rotten” kids plot to break into the factory, nab a priceless Wonka Bar, and save their homes. But like many before them who enter the fantastical world of the factory, these kids are in for a bit more than they can chew...
lmao this sounds awful
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>>153252874
How will they handle, The Unknown!?
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Imagine they instead turn this into a horror film about a bunch of teenagers, breaking into a magical chocolate factory and slowly getting killed off one by one while looking for some kind of specialty chocolate bars with a prize ticket in them before they ship out to save their home.
Maybe have some point where one kid starts sacrificing the other kids, losing their humanity in the process, because like, their orphanage will be closed if they don't succeed or something. Either comes down to the main character having to sacrifice themself to have the last kid make it out with the prize or like, they screw over their last friend and then shortly after they learn that this was all pointless and they ultimately fail or something.
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>>153254852
>hope they depict violet again, given they specifically mention it
Zero chance, blueberry inflation is an entire subgenre within inflation now, its way too well known for it to ever be repeated with a female character again. If anything they'll deliberately poke fun at the fetishists by doing a blueberry scene except it'll be on a gross middle aged white man, or even Wonka himself.
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>>153252874
>Willy Wonka has returned to his factory after years behind bars for the crime of turning a child into a blueberry.
... Is this a sequel to the Gene Wilder movie? Didn't he state the kids would become normal in that one? In the book and the Johnny Depp one they suffered some side effects in his attempt to fix it but not in the Gene Wilder one. And why make up another story? Wasn't there a prequel a while back that also just made up a new story? The book has an actual sequel, why not just adapt that?
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>>153256186
That's true, any sort of inflation scene will appeal to some demographic of fetishist, regardless of how you execute it. The original audience of berryfags who got their wires crossed specifically because it was Violet getting blown up will certainly be disappointed though.
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>sequel to willy wonka
>wonka is white man who got arrested for le child abuse
>all the new kids are black, except one white kid, who is street smart
>also, make it look like spiderverse. We need a spiderverse willy wonka.
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>>153256752
It was all a scam to shift the blame for the vast amount of safety regulations on some dumb poor kid no one would ever miss.
Wonka realizes he fucked over 4 kids, one of them a wealthy heiress and then came up with the genius plan to sign over all rights to the poor kid at the end instead of giving him the lifetime supply of chocolate.
Charlie as the new Wonka was arrested and prosecuted while the real Willie has been living in the Virgin Islands for the last 40 years.
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>>153253132
>imagined it
Damn you anon, you made me laugh.
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>>153252874
Are they going to be in the new movie?
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what's with the wonka maxxing as of late?
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>sign contract
>ignore warnings
>don't listen to anything the factory owner tells them to do
>kids fall into machinery, eat experimental candy, and generally endanger themselves after signing a contract that swore they wouldn't do that
>somehow Wonka ends up in jail for this?
Waititi is already a painfully unfunny, obnoxious faggot, but this is just retarded.
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>>153254747
For some context he signed up as a fighter pilot and when his plane went down in the desert, he got a brain injury that would ultimately be what killed him decades later. It's probably why he felt especially strongly about the conflict.
Fun fact: after he was no longer allowed to be a pilot due to his injury, he became a honeypot spy, sleeping with American women to learn secrets about their policy on WW2. He was one of the people that James Bond was based off of (and he wrote one of the screenplays)
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>>153252874
They were going for "Spiderverse x Jamie Hewlett x beatle mania", guess they acheived it.
Hopefully won't be the abortion that The Twits was. At least it's a sequel.
>they will never dare adapt the Great Glass Elevator
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>>153252874
>>Willy Wonka has returned to his factory after years behind bars for the crime of turning a child into a blueberry.
This sounds like a very funny and unique direction to go if they knew to not let it take itself seriously at all
>>Determined to add a little sweetness to a bitter world, only one thing stands in his way: teenager Charlie Paley and a new generation of "rotten" kids.
This is why I know it won't pull the concept off properly
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>>153257591
There is some mileage in having a lead superficially being one of the "bad children" this time, a cynic who believes he's a rebel gets invited in only for Wonka's inventions to reignite his childlike wonder and the actions of the other children to make him realise he was never really like them.
Going the Polar Express route rather than the Oliver Twist route.
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>>153257067
She's pretty cute, though.
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>>153257765
It's being written by the Lego Batman guy so it wouldn't suprise me if it had a similar sort of affectionate subversion.
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Dahl estate's probably still blocking it, even though you'd think they'd be willing to sell it out now that they're willing to censor the books.
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These all seem to be from the current movie.
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i have never seen any 3d model that looks less like a quentin blake drawing. they didn't try at all.
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>>153258736
She's black.
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>>153258773
They just said they want it to look like Spider-verse.
>>153258784
There was a later leak that is pretty much just the current movie, exact same Charlie model.
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>>153258290
Kid being turned into a blueberry does seem like the worst bodyhorror punishment for a kid that wasn't really that bad. Chewing gum a lot is not really the same level of sin as being a spoiled little rich shit.
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>>153258922
So giant blueberry monsters and little feral oompa loompas chasing after the kids?
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>>153252963
>The collateral damage of media literacy
Jesus fuck
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>>153252874
Wonka should've just turned them into candy.
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>>153258736
Fag
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Shut up
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>>153258951
It could work
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It's worse in the musical, Violet explodes.
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>Charlie and his family were never seen again...
>neither were the other four ticket winners and their parents
>the crowd stand around the gates slowly dispersed as the night drew closer on the cold town
>one journalist reports having the sound of glass shattering coming from the factory's largest chimney
>>153259178
Augustus gets cooked alive and Veruca is torn to pieces. Mike survives, but Charlie is the only one to make out unscathed in the musicals.
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Man there is a lot of autism around this story in particular
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Premise sounds really dumb. I'll probably just stick with the 1971 and 2005 films since they're more fun than this will probably be lel
This is now a Violet/Bluberry thread.
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>>153256852
>Charlie as the new Wonka was arrested and prosecuted while the real Willie has been living in the Virgin Islands for the last 40 years.
https://youtu.be/FlcUBK64nNA?si=eHIZdMmab5Rgn7NC
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>>153259001
I never understood why they didn't make all four punishments equal in body horror. You have mike and violet defying nature but augustus and veruca are just covered in shit. What about
>augustus is now made of chocolate, can't stop eating himself
>veruca permanently smells like garbage
>violet and mike stay the same
I think I'm being too soft on veruca but the alternative would be too cruel maybe
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>>153259410
The Wonka 'tism is strong.
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>This is now a Violet/Bluberry thread.
No.
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>"I'm one tanker away from being Augustus Gloop'd!"
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Right or left?
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>>153252874
I was indifferent til I read Taika's involved. At least it'll be funny
https://youtu.be/7zyRtfDzdWM?si=lMXOZIAj4Fjc7DTY
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But Michael Jackson was already black (well, before Bad).
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I don’t get why they keep trying to make Wonka a franchise. It’s a very good little story but it has an absurd amount of adaptations for a book about a silly chocolate factory.
Nothing at all could be worse than the 2023 Wonka. I’ve never seen such a steaming pile of shit. Felt like a bunch of corporate executives idea of “whimsy” and “imagination” poured into the fakest and most inauthentic, insincere Hollywood movie machine of all time.
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>I don’t get why they keep trying to make Wonka a franchise
Because Netflix owns the story and all the Roald Dahl stories now, and this is what they are going to make into their next IP since they lost out on Warner Bros
https://about.netflix.com/en/news/netflix-acquires-iconic-roald-dahl-s tory-company
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>>153256852
Criminal liability can't be transferred through contracts. Wonka would still be going to the chair.
That said, Charlie woukd be on the hook for the mountain of civil lawsuits. He'll be poor again soon enough.
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>>153259641
Only because you trash came here in the 2010's, tried to force yourself on the rest of us, got kicked out, then somehow managed to be such colossal subhuman fuckups you're literally banned from /d/ and banished to /aco/ because you could not control yourselves.
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I had the same thought
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>I don’t get why they keep trying to make Wonka a franchise. It’s a very good little story but it has an absurd amount of adaptations for a book about a silly chocolate factory.
Its the same shit as Jurassic Park, which is already past the two trilogy mark with Rebirth. The premise is incredibly contained to the point where any retelling/sequel will just retread the original setting. "Wow I wonder what will happen when they go to the Dinosaur Island/Chocolate Factory/whatever this time?!" There is no reason for stories like these to get new installments, but corporate will try to milk them for their nostalgic value anyways.
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>>153256852
anon he came up with the contest specifically to find a heir, he has absolutely no reason to run it otherwise. he's willing to provide value for money with everlasting gobstoppers, a product that will literally never need to be replaced, so i don't think he cares about the profits of the contest either.
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Dateline NBC - Willy Wonka and the Hatred Factory:
https://s3.amazonaws.com/production.videos.funnyordie.com/v/db3bdfa8c7 /v600.mp4
https://s3.amazonaws.com/production.videos.funnyordie.com/v/db3bdfa8c7 /v110.mp4
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What I want to know is how they're going to deal the other children personalities.
It seems pretty clear from the premise that they're going for an angle of the "rotten kids" are actually good guys fighting against the evil Wonka and his gentrification of their neighborhood.
But then how do they deal with the children's flaws?
>can't mock Augustus for being a fat glutton cause that's fatphobic and body-shaming
>Mike being tv/videogame/technology obsessed rings hollow now that we have generations being raised by ipads and would sound hypocrite as fuck coming from Netflix
>Veruca being a spoiled rich bitch is probably okay by Netflix's moral standards, but then it raises the question of why she would hang out with the poors
>Violet gum-chewing was always Dahl's pet pevee being put into the story
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I imagine it's going to be standard boomer complaints shoved onto the kids.
>Agustus keeps eating that weird foreign crap! Why can't he eat normal food like a normal person?!?! Whoever heard of udon? and seaweed aint food! Those damn foreigners ruined him now he'll eat anything off the damn walls!
>Mike keeps his damn head shoved in that phone all the time, he needs to quit lookin at that damn phone! He thinks he a tv star because he keeps recordin shit with that phone!
>Veruka used to be rich but kept buying all that avocado toast and ipads and now she out her family into the poorhouse! she should get a job! I used to work when I was a kid!! Entitled little shit!
>Violet competes in things but still wins participation trophies when she is supposed to lose! She has no idea what not winning means! Nothing but an overinflated sense of self worth!
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Spider-Verse looks nothing like a comic, it's Alberto Mielgo's painterly 3D style that he developed for Beatles Rock Band, Spider-Verse just had a psyop campaign trying to make it look more artsy than it was so they tried to pass of the style as a comic homage when no comic actually looks like that
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>>153252874
What is the fucking obsession with Willy Wonka man? Specifically the Chocolate Factory. You know there is a sequel book with a pretty insane plot.
I was looking through Dahl's bibliography and saw some things I haven't read in ages. Like Esio Trot. I used to read so many wonderful stories as a kid. Growing up ruined me ...
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This is just artstation generic "concept art" style with lots of texture heavy brush packs. I blame the Spider-verse style and Mutant Mayhem for convincing hollywood faggots that this is what people want to see.
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>2060
Kinda eerie to think I could feasibly be alive when it becomes public domain.
I'd be 73, but still.
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>>153258773
>i have never seen any 3d model that looks less like a quentin blake drawing.
Thank god cause this dude can't draw for shit and I want a cinematic presentation.
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So how does the plot work with Charlie being a kid if this is supposed to be after Wonka gets out of prison for turning violet into a blueberry? I feel like they'd be better off just doing an animated Squid Games with the factory as the prize and anyone can sign up.
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>>Willy Wonka has returned to his factory after years behind bars for the crime
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Very stylish if nothing else. I’d rather Netflix movies look like this than the garbage Skybound puts out.
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If they give Veruca mother fucking Salt or whomever is suppose to be the Veruca of this film a nuanced backstory they've completely missed the point of the book and done so deliberately. The reason 4 out of the 5 kids are the way that theyre is because of their parents extreme permissive parenting.
Augustus is allowed to eat as much junk food and garbage as he wants with zero impulse control or restraint because its apart of german "culture" (stereotype)
Mike is allowed unlimited screen time since his parents dont seem to give a shit that Mike has no real personality outside of staring at a screen all day
Violet is a know it all since her parents dont seem to care that she feels the need to show up for attention because she lacks modesty
And Veruca is suppose to be the worst of them all because she's fantastically wealthy and has never been told no in her entire fucking life. Why do we feel obligated to pretend modern parents arent absolutely fucking horrible at doing their one job which is raising their children that was the whole point on why Charlie was the perfect one because he had his glass half full despite his circumstances. Veruca represents consequence free extreme hyper indulgence so she absolutely should be a cautionary reminder something modern zoomers dont get because theyre halfway into becoming that.
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>>153259264
Waiver means fuck all in a criminal charge, especially with a minor involved.
>umm no officer, actually she and her parents signed a waiver saying I could diddle her so there's no way I could go to jail
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Easy.
>Augustus is fat, but worse than that he's picky and only eats fast food.
>Mike is a tv/vidya addict, but worse than that he's toxic and trolls on social media
>Veruca is rich, but worse than that she's not a liberal rich kid and hates immigrants and the poor
>Violet chews gum, but worse than that she litters
All of these are easily adapted into modern social 'problems'.
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>Netflix turned a black character white? After they already turned him black from white in the concepts? Even though he was originally meant to be black in Dahl's initial drafts? Before the agent turned him white
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>>153254269
If we're going to be facetious the children's parents all signed waivers and the children only got harmed by running off of the tour and messing with equipment they were told not to touch. It's an open and shut case for Wonka.
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>>153260977
>It seems pretty clear from the premise that they're going for an angle of the "rotten kids" are actually good guys fighting against the evil Wonka and his gentrification of their neighborhood.
There's nothing saying Wonka is evil. You're making up reasons to make yourself angry.
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>>153252934
I hate how modern media are remakes of IPs of 1960s to 1980s.
And the remakes always follow the same pattern: diverse casting of white, black, asian main characters, lesbians everywhere, brocoli hair and Millenial writing
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>>153261154
No one is complaining about the elevator itself. The Glass Elevator is a sequel book where Charlie and Wonka fight aliens in space. Anons in the thread were saying the studio wouldn't dare make a movie based on it because it's an insane book.
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Manifesting the movie only has male blueberry inflation to spite berryfaggots.
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>>153252874
oh shit Willy Wonka the Third?!
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>>153266422
You're ascribing emotion where there's none. I am not angry at this at all (in fact I feel pretty neutral about it) I am just trying to deduct the plot from the premise and it seems to be a classical "save our neighborhood" plot.
You know, the kind where a ragtag bunch of kids need to save their neighborhood/school/town/whatever from an evil land developer that wants to bulldoze everything to build a mall/factory/parking lot. Those were all the rage back in the 80s.
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>>153269623
That part is true, but nothing points to Wonka being evil. If anything, "wanting to bring a bit of sweetness to a bitter world" points to the exact opposite.
I imagine it will be a movie where the two sides misunderstand each other but see eye to eye in the end.
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>smoke stacked chocolate factory set in modern london
>sadiq khan shuts it down for disobeying the low emission zone laws
I wonder if the "tv bad" moral would be replaced with "fortnite bad"?
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>That background looks AI genned as fuck
Yeah feels it, same as >>153253210 with how everyone's just stood around.
All the chimneys being fantasmagically a set of assorted tubes is something I'd call burtonesque pre-AI. Without seeing obvious errors I assume they ask the AI to spew out some shit and then colour over it to avoid bad windows.
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Smokestacks coming out of a factory roof. Just look slightly to the left and you'll see more. It's a bit weird but the entire factory is supposed to be enclosed.
>>153254914
>Imagine they instead turn this into FNaF/Bendy/Poppy Playtime/Banban
I don't think that'd make money
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>fun
>contemporary
>edgy
>gritty and modern
>bold
>immersive
Doesn't sound fun.
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>21st century retelling
>character is race swapped
>but still wearing the victorian clothes of the original
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>21st century retelling
>character is race swapped
>but still wearing the victorian clothes of the original
While I agree with a lot of what you're saying, that feels a little unfair. Wonka's eccentric choice of clothing was hardly contemporary for 1964 either.
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how many times has this movie leaked now? 5 times?
https://litter.catbox.moe/amu794.zip
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I feel like the fact that he was arrested specifically for what he did to violet are the writers shaming blueberryfags
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>Charlie was living in a victorian slum, it was appropriate, the other characters were inappropriately modern
You may be underestimating the levels of poverty in post-war working class England m8. Charlie's conditions were not particularly anachronistic or uncommon for the time. Search for
>1960s uk slums
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I'm guessing blueberry was specifically chosen cause it's the only one Wonka didn't physically try to stop. Augustus, Veruca, and Mike all ignored any prior warnings and in some cases went out of their way to do something. Violet was just holding the gum for a bit while Wonka stood there not trying to prevent her from eating it aside from "I'd rather you didn't". Not even warning her of the side effects. It's like having a gun factory, letting someone hold a gun, and not warning them it's loaded just that they should put it back.
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I hope they acknowledge the blueberry inflation fetish and lean into it really hard just to piss people off.
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>>153252874
That's Charlie?! Already ruined, he looks like a genderbent Violet. You know, that could be interesting, genderbending all the kids, except Charlie.
>Wonka is an ex-convict.
Oh fuck off! Couldn't they make a sequel about Charlie running the factory?
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>>153270949
It's also easily the cruelest and most inhumane thing done to any of the kids.
One kid was just topped into the garbage
One kid was almost landed in the boiler, but that was mostly his fault
One kid ran into an experimental device that just shrank him
Being mutated into a bloated monstrosity is pretty damn fucked up and very cruel compared to the other supposed bad kids and their punishments.
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>>153270727
It's more annoying how 90% of all the leaks are pics of Charlie's house, the grimy ghetto buildings and streets, his grimy school...No one anywhere cares about that stuff. People want to see the concepts for the wacky over the top fantastic shit found in the factory.
The movie is not even considered started yet until they finally go into the factory.
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>>153270740
That doesn't fit the angry boomer stereotype of tablet zoomers like >>153261473
Since it's definitely going to be guys in their 40s and 50s making this thing. They are going to want to bitch and moan about kids staring into their phones.
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>>153273230
They can still see anyone with gum and start making fetish porn out of them.
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>>153273230
The sugar cube bridge stuff looks kind of interesting
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>>153270949
It’s the writers being into it and playing 4D fetish chess to make it happen. Sell the movie concept using the funniest and only memorable detail in the elevator pitch, and your blueberry inflation courtroom flashback scene in act 1 will never, ever get cut.
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>>153260062
>More chimneys! MoOoOaAar!
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>>153273125
They fancy themselves 4D chess supervillains but they have the thinnest skin in the game and the biggest egos, to get insulted boldface by the property they base their life around would sting more than a (well deserved) punch in the face.
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>>153271981
I don't think we will be seeing any berrying of kids. Modern movie makers are now aware of the amount of weird shit that comes along with that.
What we might get is a few seconds of a Where are they Now news thing with maybe a fat middle aged Violet on a mobility scooter talking about her amazing settlement or something like that when the story has to mention why Wonka went to jail.
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>>153273683
There is also a possibility this movie is only happening because a director got their hands on it and wants to start inserting fetishes. Netflix has no shortage of those guys.
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>>153273155
What's funny is, Violet's punishment was both the pettiest and the most heinous.
In the original book, she was literally just a gum chewer. It was Roald Dahl having autistic rage at the concept of bubble gum. Every adaptation has had to graft something onto Violet to make her worse because the punishment has never for the crime.
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Yeah, I think this was a mistake. That's clearly Twits concept art.
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>>153273683
If you watch kids’ movies absurdity and gross gags are still rampant, as well as shit that /co/ would immediately drag for enabling fetishists. They are not going to shoot anything remotely erotic, but they are not overthinking it so much that they think that’s a meaningful number of people. The mainstream family audience does not associate references to an iconic Willy Wonka scene with fetish porn, they think of Willy Wonka.
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>>153273871
not a mistake, here's a separate project netflix was developing about the oompa loompas
https://litter.catbox.moe/u0ic1s.zip
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>>153270065
It's funny how that ends up still working out since they did the deal with Netflix out of spite for how bad Tom and Jerry Willy Wonka was as a trademark retention movie.
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>>153274199
>internet supervillains
The internet supervillains are gangstalking me at the Kroger parking lot. They're following me while I shop for my groceries. I see internet supervillains follow me to work. Internet Supervillains have poisoned my s*ylent.
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>>153258599
>our story is a fun, contemporary and edgy take on a timeless classic
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THIS USER IS THE INTERNET SUPERVILLAIN AND THE OPINION BASHER