>>153261697
And Thor unironically does the "Bane is the scariest guy i've ever seen in my life" meme about Doom.

>>153261697
>>153261710
>just make Doom OP af
>make Thor scared of him and call him the scariest villain ever
>even though Thanos held his own against them and even wiped out trillions
I guess this is what happens when the plan is changed last minute and a damage control villain is introduced with no prior MCU movies or development other than 2 seconds of a post credits stinger

>>153261710
Thor's dialogue:
>"I have fought with many warriors in my time. They were far stronger than any of us combined and they died. They died facing enemies and threats that scared me far less than this one. Everything that we sacrficied will be for nothing if we do not stand together....If you return, you will return as brothers and sister but mark my words...we're going to need a miracle."
Another tidbit is that Endgame's September re-release will contain additional material, probably something from Doomsday.

Is Steve Nomad now?

>>153261812
They'll probably use the name, if not in the movie in merch maybe. It was confirmed a while ago that a post-Endgame project starring Steve was in development before getting repurposed into a storyline in Doomsday, and the codename for that was indeed Nomad.

>>153261697
Sounds lame as fuck lmao

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>>153261710
>>153261784

>>153261866
i laughed

>>153261697
>Then we see Robert Downey Jr. unmasked as Victor Von Doom talking in his Latverian accent.
So they're just going to show his whole face in the trailer? Anyway this seems to put to bed those supposed leaks where Doom was only revealed as a villain near the end of the film.

>>153262010
That one bit seems at odds with other people's description of the trailer. Many reported Doom has the mask on in all the footage shown.

>>153262010
John Campea (who has the script) confirmed he’s at least larping as a good guy for the first act with the F4 in Wakanda. It’s probably a mysterio level twist though and won’t take long.

>>153262296
Per other leaks, Doom only reveals his true nature at the end of act 2 by showing his plan of rebuilding reality to his own image.

>>153262296
>>153262321
Well in that case it's strange that they'd reveal the second act twist in the trailer, even though it's common knowledge. The Spider-Man Far from Home trailer didn't reveal Mysterio was a bad guy even though everyone knew he was.

Why can't Marvel treat Doom with the respect that he rightfully deserves.
He's a character that NEEDED years of build up, and they're just using him as their back up villain because Ant Man 3 was a fucking shit show and Kang's actor got into a load of shit.
Fucking bullshit.

>>153261697
>the main selling point of the trailer is HERO VS HERO
When does this fucking end?

>>153262561
I hope after this whole debacle is over we get more info on just what the original plan for Doom was.

>>153262561
Marvel is plain stupid in trying to elevate Kang into the Saga's main bad guy using the same movie which main point was about how the underdogs win

>>153261866
kek 10/10

Bullseye would be able to kill Doom

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kinda crazy lowkey admitting all those phases after didn't mean shit

Did Disney thank we weren't laughing at Tatum's gambit

Doom is the most reddit character of marvel
Yes even more than Deadpool

>>153263347
You still have to watch some movies/shows, like Thor's new daughter is in the film.

>>153263347
Are you really this stupid or is it just a lark?

>>153263347
It literally begins with Steve leaving to return the Infinity Stones and shows how his life with Peggy unfolded afterwards, dummy.

>>153261784
It's a classic trope called the Worf Effect. Basically the easiest and most efficient way to establish a new major villain is to have the strongest protagonist instantly job to them. Even Thanos did this at the beginning of Infinity War with Hulk.

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Yep, leaks confirmed.

Begins in the Tobey Maguire Spider-Man universe. He is fighting Deadpool and Wolverine. Their universes are colliding, and Deadpool and Wolverine were sent there with a device built by Beast that will destroy Spider-Man’s world and initiate a chain reaction that will destroy his entire universe and save theirs. Wolverine stays behind when it detonates, and both he and Spider-Man – along with everyone on that universe – are killed. Deadpool escapes and returns to his own Earth. Professor Charles Xavier watches the destroyed world with sadness, but they had no choice.

Cut to Tony Stark’s funeral. Steve Rogers leaves to return the Infinity Stones. He chooses to go back in time to stay with Peggy Carter. They have a son, Jim. One day, Loki visits them – this is before the show’s season 2 finale. He tells Steve about the TVA and warns him that they will soon prune this timeline because Steve was never meant to live there or have a son. Loki offers them a way out: he can take them to a universe where they don’t exist and can live in peace – the Fantastic Four’s universe. Before leaving, Loki gives Steve a special card to contact him. Steve and his family live there for ten years.

In the present day, Doctor Doom visits Sue Storm and Franklin Richards. They already know each other. Doom says he has come to speak with Reed Richards. He warns him about the incursions and reveals their universe is next. He proposes a plan - but they must travel with him to Earth-616. Doom also asks Reed whether it is possible someone from another universe is living in theirs. They scan the planet and find Steve and his family. They confront Steve, who recognizes them after living there for a decade. They explain the incursions and ask him to come to Earth-616 to help convince the Avengers to trust Doom. They travel there, recruit Thor and arrive on Earth, where Steve successfully persuades the heroes to listen.

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>>153263461
The Avengers and the Fantastic Four visit the X-Men’s universe – but the X-Men are hostile. They have survived multiple incursions and trust no one. They assume the Avengers have come to destroy them and attack before the Fantastic Four stop the battle. Reed and Doom explain their solution: to build massive cannons on each earth that will permanently separate the universes and stop the incursions. They will split into teams and each one will go to another Earth to place a cannon there.

Meanwhile, Steve tells Thor he met Loki. Thor asks Steve to see him. Using Loki’s card, they locate the TVA – but when they arrive, everyone is dead and Loki has had his heart ripped out. They realize Doom is responsible. Steve goes back to confront Doom, who reveals his true plan: to allow the incursions to happen so he can create a singular timeline in his own image and resurrect his dead family. He takes Steve to his castle in Latveria in his universe. There, Steve meets Doom’s masked followers. One of them impersonates Peggy to manipulate him, but he resists her.

Doom reveals that Steve’s presence in their universe is what triggered the incursions, because he didn’t belong there. It also led to the death of Doom’s family: Doom became obsessed with stopping the incursions, conducting dangerous experiments – one of which failed, killing his family and leaving him disfigured, forcing him to wear the armor and mask. As revenge, Doom kills Steve’s son in front of him. Meanwhile, Thor rallies the Avengers, the X-Men and the Fantastic Four to stop Doom.

This is gonna be so shit lmao

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>>153263474
Doom announces that the Avengers are coming, and Latveria prepares for war. The heroes unite and march on Latveria. Thor prays to Odin, who sends an army from Valhalla to join the battle. A massive battle erupts as the Earths begin to collide. Eventually, the universes crash into each other and are destroyed – killing everyone except Doom, who has stolen Loki’s power. Doom creates Battleworld, revives everyone – including Spider-Man and Wolverine – and erases their memories. They believe Battleworld is all that has ever existed and that they are loyal servants of Doom. Doom sits on his throne as the Emperor of Battleworld. The end.


Assorted leaks

>Doctor Doom wears his mask for the entire movie and his face is only seen in flashbacks about his accident. None of the heroes learn he looks like Tony Stark.
>The X-Men not featured in the movie are said to have died in past incursions.
>Sue Storm asks Namor for help and he agrees because he becomes attracted to her.
>Professor Xavier helps Bob overcome his demons and become the Sentry without turning into the Void. The Sentry then literally holds the colliding Earths together while the heroes fight Doom.
>Doom’s followers were played by stand-ins, but Doctor Strange and the Scarlet Witch appear to be among them, with Benedict Cumberbatch and Elizabeth Olsen expected to film their scenes or at least ADR their lines in during reshoots.
>Monica Rambeau is in the movie and she is the one that gets the Avengers and the X-Men to stop fighting, having become close with the X-Men after getting stranded in their universe and helped them figure out the incursions.
>Captain Marvel, Ms. Marvel, Kate Bishop, Cassie Lang and America Chavez reportedly have cameos ahead of bigger roles in Avengers: Secret Wars and will be among those who escape the Battleworld memory-wipe and must free their brainwashed friends from under Doom's control.

>>153261784
Thanos was the strongest in the universe, but doom is from another universe, therefore bypassing that standard

>>153263461
Welp, I bet they'll restore it at the end of Secret Wars anyway, so Tobey doesn't have to show up as much and it creates easy shock for nostalgia fans. Maybe they're getting whisked away to battleworld by a future doom since OG Tony was the one with time travel in Endgame and they'll want to call back to that except with Doom and the Time Platform. The incursions have already been orchestrated to happen so the single timeline ends up being 2015 Secret Wars where Sue is his wife and all that. I could also see the reason for the incursions happening because of Steve turning out to be a lie or just getting undone anyway.

>>153263574
>>153263526
Well shit...maybe I forgot I read that already though my ideas aren't unique anyway.

Sentry bros we won

>>153261866
Exquisite

>>153263461
This is fucking retarded no way this is real

>>153263461
>travel with him to Earth-616
You mean Earth 1616.

>>153262296
>who has the script
A random youtube reviewer isn't going to have a MCU script, come on now.

>>153263395
You don't have to watch anything.

>>153262561
they probably didn't want to use F4 or Doom until after Kang Dynasty but of course almost everything post-endgame has been half baked at best or straight up trash.

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>>153261697
comic book nerds, specifically the comic book nerds who are very knowledgeable in marvel comics.. as far as im aware.. dr doom is like a cosmic-level deity that can basically bend reality and defeat basically anything and everything if he wants to.. HOW THE FUCK CAN CAPTAIN AMERICA EVEN SQUARE UP AGAINST DR DOOM? the reason why i am asking this is because at cinemacon, RDJ and chris evans were teasing that both their characters are basically going to fight.. so im just curious..

how does captain american even fight dr doom if dr doom is basically a fucking god? how does cap even have a chance? any lore explanation that makes it possible?

>>153261784
Well think about it logically, its going off Hickmans Secret Wars where Doom kills Thanos with a one shot lol

>>153264962
hello????

>>153264962
>>153265108
Historically Doom isn’t at god levels of power, his greatest weakness is his ego, which is why a strong rock man and a guy covered in fire routinely beat him up. In the secret war cartoon, the Beyonder only gave him his power as a test, when the heroes showed what he wanted to see, he took it back and Doom lost. In the comic he manipulated him through one of his followers. In the other Secret War, Doom needed an intermediary to hold the power, who later turned on him.

>>153265277
damn... thats interesting thanks for sharing..

>>153264892
The guy has real connections in Hollywood. He's a film journalist, and was the one who leaked the first pic of Tobey and Andrew in NWH.

>>153264910
FF was always going to happen before TKD, but it was meant to be a standalone film without major repercussions for the Kang storyline. Neither the FF nor the X-Men were set to appear in TKD (confirmed by that film's writer), and only got to be relevant after the Doom pivot.

>>153264962
Base level Doom is just a scientist-wizard, albeit a highly competent one. SW is one of those instances where he achieves godhood, but again, that's not the status quo of the character.

>>153264909
Wakanda Forever, Loki, Thunderbolts and FF seem to be the only post-Endgame projects with weight for the film.

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https://quickshare.samsungcloud.com/sHU5jtzKVZM8
>Secret Wars will now look like shit because the disney jews want to save a few extra shekels
Literally the only comic book I wanted to see on the big screen is gonna be ai slop tier, Fuck you Kikey Mouse I hope you burn in hell

>>153266930
The team they fired was the visual development department, who are in charge of concept art and designs, not VFX; Marvel subcontracts VFX companies since they don't have a division of their own. SW starts filming in a few months so all the visual work was already done.
Still sucks obviously. Whether you like the MCU 's visual language or not, it's undeniable that it was one of it's core aspects and reasons for success.

>>153266930
>trojan
Nice try

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>>153263526
>Captain Marvel, Ms. Marvel, Kate Bishop, Cassie Lang and America Chavez reportedly have cameos ahead of bigger roles in Avengers: Secret Wars
If this is true, I'm dropping MCU in its entirety

>>153268266
The Young Avengers supposedly have a subplot of their own in SW

>>153263461
>>153263474
>>153263526
Russos are hacks

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>Thor tries to strike Doom with Stormbreaker but Doom can stop it with just the palm of his hand.
Doomsday confirmed written by AI.

>>153262561
Doom only works in long term storytelling because of how much it takes to set him up and pay him off. Every movie will fail to adapt him right.

It’s becoming apparent to me that this is not necessarily an anti-nostalgia movie, but about the end of an era. Which is funny because they’ve done this several times already, but this is meant to be the true sendoff. They will fail in Doomsday, and the New Avengers, the next generation, likely led by Holland and Cassie Lang, will save the world.

>>153270973
*Young Avengers

>>153270973
There’s also just all the general themes of children that we’ve seen so far.
>Thor and Love in the teaser
>Doom likely doing something to Steve’s kid
>Scott kissing Cassie’s forehead as described in the trailer.

>>153270973
Secret Wars has been described as a movie about beginnings by the Russos. Doomsday from the trailer seems to have death as it's main motif, with SW focusing on the creation of the new universe.

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>>153271688
Well there you go

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>>153270973
>and the New Avengers, the next generation, likely led by Holland and Cassie Lang, will save the world.
You niggers are genuinely retarded if you think that after 5 years of failing so hard they had to drop 100M on RDJ, they'll again attempt to push the Breakfast McDonalds Club Kids as le trve protagonists again. It'll just be a springboard for the MCU X-Men and that's it. The Nearing-30-Avengers are getting their D+ show and that's it.

>>153261697
Oh my Goddd they're having Thor job AGAIN?

>>153262561
Will never understand why they simply didn't recast Kang. The character known for having multiple different versions of himself. Was it a contract clause? If so, why the fuck??

>>153271859
It wasn't just Majors' problemas; even if they didn't happen, Kang's reception from Quantumania was so poor that the studio started considering to pivot from that alone. Majors' arrest happened like a month after discussions began.

I have multiverse exhaustion.

>>153271794
They’re not going be the sole focus, but it seems likely they are going to be a decently sized focus. I remember Loveness said Kang Dynasty was somewhat about generational struggle and throwing the newbies into the fire, the co-writer of that still worked with McFeely on both Doomsday and Secret Wars. So perhaps that idea could’ve stayed. The old guards are going to be brainwashed to be Doom loyalists by the end of Doomsday, who else is going to save them? Holland and the zoomcrew will probably function same as Ant-Man in endgame.

>>153263474
>Doom kills Steve’s son in front of him.
I hope Marvel actually has the guts to do this.

>>153266171
>The guy has real connections in Hollywood
He gets screeners and that's it

>was the one who leaked the first pic of Tobey and Andrew in NWH
He found someone else's photo and posted it to youtube first, so what?

>>153272225
I feel overwhelmed and overstuffed by the prevalence of multi-universe narratives in modern media

>>153261697
>Killing Loki….again…..before any Thor reunion

I HATE MCU Loki…. but why add “The sun will shine on us again?” I’m starting to believe Lokifag when he said Hemsworth and Hiddleston fell out.

>>153272427
Marvel should do all of The Ultimates. They should add Cannibal rapist hulk, Nazi Loki, Racist Cap, and the Maximoff incest. Then Marvel will be gigachad and based as fuck and the MCU will be saved.

>>153272225
I have MCU exhaustion.

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>>153273758
>>153272225
>>153270973
>>153270069
Anyone who doesn’t believe that this film will save the MCU should be stripped to a chair and forced to read comics. They’re finally comic accurate retards, sit down. This film will be based.

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>>153273715
Look, I’m pissed they’re killing MY GUY, too. But it proves two things….Loki IS infact TOAA/Beyonder levels of ultimate fucking RAW POWER, so much so Doom absorbing his powers makes him super strong and alpha af…..and that Loki never has the chance to reunite with his retarded fag of a little brother.

>>153271833
KEKKY WEKKY

>>153266930
Don’t listen to anyone who tells you it’ll be bad. Have full faith in them, Waldron knows what he’s doing, m8. Things have improved since the infinity saga.

>>153263347
Kevin Feige is weird.
>Direct follow on from Endgame!
But then what about all these fucking characters Feige? Shang Chi, Yelana?

Feige is the same guy who said, you don't need to watch the shows to see the movies. Then stuffed the shows with set up of characters. Then also made that all irrelevant too.

>>153271833
Isn’t that all he’s done in the MCU? Hell, I think Thor actually jobs more than Dr. Fucking Strange over there. It’s actually kind of impressive how disrespected he is.

Removing any sort of Doom/Richards rivalry just seems weird

>>153263474
>Doom reveals that Steve’s presence in their universe is what triggered the incursions, because he didn’t belong there
People have been posting this for like two years now and if it is true it will be one of the worst storylines possible.
>You know that happy ending we gave someone? It destroyed multiple universes lol.

>>153273967
Wouldn't be the first time a comic rivalry is fucked up in order to tie the villain to Tony Stark

>>153273933
>Direct follow on from Endgame!
Probably just optics for the press

Stop whining faggots, the MCU isn’t for kids anymore. They don’t do happy endings because Feige himself called them unrealistic, they are aiming to make this film as dark, gritty, philosophical, and controversial as possible. It’s met to rip the bandaid off the “cool superhero” lends, fans of characters, nostalgiafags, and other shit associated with superhero and comics and show it with a grim nihilistic, non-fantasy, non-goofy/norse mythology angle. Feige and Waldron have been eager for their audience to “finally grow up and realize happy endings and fantasy are a lie, your characters deserve consequences, and we don’t want comic fans or kids watching us anymore.”

The bandaid is off and was ripped off in Loki unless you nigs didn’t pay attention……Happy endings are the lie.

If you can’t handle it you’re not mature enough to enjoy this film, so mald. This is the most anticipated and important film in marvel history

Spiderman is the only thing that matters and even a soft reboot after the last film, they couldn't get it right. MCU had Ditko era stories in their hands and wasted it before they even started. I'm not expecting good things from Doom.

>>153274215
This is the gayest shit I’ve read in a very long time.

>>153261697
Exciting!

>>153261866
Well done and checked, anon

>>153263574
I wonder if they're be desperate enough to actually bring Toby Spidey back for real and just have him there alongside Holland Spidey after Secret Wars is done the way Miles got transplanted into 616 in the comics

>>153271859
Nobody liked the shitty depiction of Kang, it was doomed and they knew it. The Quantumania post-credits with them making monkey noises was plain bizzare.

>>153263461
Yeah, I’m calling bullshit.
Why would Sony allow Marvel to just kill off the most beloved/popular version of Spider-Man, let alone for a film they have little investment in to begin with?

>>153261866
lol

>>153263461
>>153263474
Why the fuck are muties like this?

>>153277228
It's alright if he gets revived in battleworld at the end and gets his universe restored in Secret Wars.

>>153277228
Him and Jackman will just be revealed to be alive during the last act. A constant rumour for SW is that they'll have main roles there.