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I just think the color is cool
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>>2972950
Green is what you associate with faggy eco shit, it doesn't belong on power tools, makes them look cheap.
Now orange and grey I can get behind, looks industrial and tough.
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>>2972950
Flashlights break. Batteries overheat easily. Circular saw has almost no useful power. Air nailer has safety to disable shot after 3 seconds. Router shuts off from normal resistance to bit. Drills are fine and get the job done. They work
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I finally stepped into the battery tool game with one of the $199 Ryobi kits Home Depot had for black Friday. I really can't complain. For hobbyist shit they're great, the impact driver has helped already with a couple fixes on vehicles, the drill seems perfectly adequate, and the tiny ass circular saw was more comfortable that my big corded one for cutting 3/4" cedar. Haven't really had a use for the oscillating tool or reciprocating saw yet, and I've got a ton of flashlights already, but they seem solid enough.
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>>2972971
I like this because they’re easy to see when I leave them somewhere
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Slightly off-topic, has anyone tried any of those cheap knock-off tools for specified batteries? Thinking about one of those off-brand small reciprocating caws for my dewalt 20v. I don't need to use such a saw often enough to warrant the price.
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I have about 20 Ryobi tools and about 4 batteries, some which came with them (trash) others I had to buy (good). I do my own home renovation and maintenance including building a separate living space and they have never let me down yet. But my father (ex builder) gave me one of his old Makita belt sanders to use and I was quite jealous of the quality. Ryobi is fine for my needs.
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>>2978816
These were the four brands I was considering when I started buying tools. They'll all do what you need them to do and will last if you take care of them. Here's how I narrowed my choices down:
>Kobalt
my favorite color is blue but most of their tools do not have illumination lights on them, and the only Lowe's in the city is clear on the other side of town.
>DeWalt
all of the maintenance people I know use DeWalt so they must be good. Their 20v batteries are difficult to remove. Their tools' motors have an unusual sound to them. I don't like yellow very much.
>Makita
no experience with this brand. Wide range of tools but no one I know uses them either.
>Milwaukee
I used Milwaukee brand tools at my last job and can attest to their durability. Very large range of different tools. Milwaukee is exceptionally good at ergonomics. Red is okay but I'm also from Milwaukee, WI.
I went Milwaukee. No regrets. Get brushless when you can. Consider only getting a drill unless you really, really need the impact driver for torque.
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>>2978823
>Their tools' motors have an unusual sound to them
Brushless motors. No scraping brushes to make noise, but the electronics scream at you with high-speed high-power switching. On variable-speed tools, you can hear the tone change in discrete steps.
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>>2972950
Green's fine, if you only need them for occasional DIY stuff. I mainly use Yellow. Not always the best in a category, but usually near the top and will always get the job done.
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>>2978923
Thanks, bros. I went with the brushless compact 2 PC Milwaukee set. I almost got the Makita because of the cool black color way. While the drill set was comparably priced, it looked like the rest of the Makita tools were significantly more expensive. I figured the cheap drill set was a gateway discount. Also, I'm trying to not be a reflexive contrarian these days.
Feels pretty good. Already hung anniver the range microwave and a sconce for my wife.
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They're brand of Techtronic Industries (TTI).
I'm thinking about trying an electric ratchet and not willing to commit to the other TTI brand - Ryobi's 12V 3/8" ratchet looks nice and compact, but it's a bit more expensive than the Walmart Hyper Tough one. For DIY not heavy professional use. Thoughts?
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>>2980004
Pretty much every brand is in a big conglomerate now.
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>>2980102
Emerson/Ridgid makes plumbing tools. Mostly pipe wrenches. They licensed the brand to Home Depot for them to use on power tools. TTI makes those tools for Home Depot. That's why they are only sold at Home Depot. Unless a reseller is flipping them elsewhere.
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FLEX GANG FLEX GANG FLEX GANG
I wanted Makita but Home Depot refused to restock the deal bundle I wanted and I got the same one from Flex at Lowes for the same price. Love em all but the 7 1/4 saw is hard heavy as fuck and hard to control so hopefully a guide bar will help me out.
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>>2978823
>dewalt
It's generally overpriced, but their saws and blades are higher end. The way your saws work and cutting accuracy helps a lot if you need it to. Obviously, there's very high end shop equipment but Dewalt is the step up for contractor grade.
>kobalt
They had budget consumables and hand tools. Now Lowes doesn't offer anything that can't be purchased somewhere else cheaper and of better quality.
>milwaukee
sparky, plumber shit
>rigid
idk seems like ryobi but a lot better
>ryobi
diy, brainless homeowner tier. Most of it is hot garbage, but some of it is actually pretty good not cringe at all. At least the batteries never change.
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>>2972950
broke my ryobi weedwacker the other day. pos ran out of string and when i went to replace it it was difficult to get off then once i did the spring sent everything flying. their 40v is garbage and has too few tools to be worthwhile. leaf blower eats an entire charge in 10 minutes. should've just went gas but cali only likes that when the help (spics) use it
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>>2982223
>>Dewalt
>>kobalt
Is Lowe's phasing Kobalt out in favor of Craftsman? The Craftsman deal has put them in bed pretty deep with Stanley Black & Decker, so it would make sense. I liked made in USA era Craftsman a lot but for the Taiwan stuff I shop more widely.
>>Milwaukee/Ridgid/Ryobi
These are all Techtronics brands (Ridgid under license only for power tools) and two are exclusive to Home Depot, parallel to Lowe's relationship with Home Depot.
Big difference: they sell Dewalt at Home Depot but they don't sell Milwaukee at Lowe's.
>diy, brainless homeowner tier. Most of it is hot garbage
In general I find the Harry Homeowner level of power tools is a lot better than it was 30-40 years ago. I don't own any Ryobi but I've been thinking about a cheap 12V battery-in-handle ratchet and they're one of the reasonable options out there.
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>>2972955
Checked and yeah, have had Ryobi's since the blue ones and honestly they are more than fine for DIY shit. They basically replaced B&D as the homeowner brand. Most of my blue ones still work too after being beat on for years. Tons of value.
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Anyone have experience with the Bosch lineup? Ive heard its limited in tools but good quality. Im gonna need my first drill soon so I wanted to get something reliable.
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>>2973150
Update - I managed to blow up the gearbox on the Ryobi drill. Granted, I was using it beyond it's intended purposes to turn over a small engine to check for spark and I think the rotational momentum of the engine slammed it a couple of times when I exceeded the drill's battery and it shut off mid spin. New gearbox was $15 on eBay and quick to install, so I can't complain.
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>>2972971
I love the subcompact impact but after a year of work it shit the bed on me, gotta say I really enjoy my orange tools though.
>>2972950
I use the green tools for lawn stuff and really enjoy them, thinking about getting some of their stuff for home projects.
>>2973461
Ah, I see you're a Skil enjoyer.
>>2978346
Flex is crazy. Pouch cell batteries, performance/longevity that rival/beat out Milwaukee despite being a new contender, and the prices are pretty solid when you catch them on sale.
>>2978816
>Should I buy kobalt, DeWalt, Milwaukee, or Makita? Just gonna get one of those $250 2pc kits with a drill and a driver
---REGARDLESS OF YOUR DECISION, GET BRUSHLESS TOOLS---
>Kobalt
Shockingly good tools. I started using them as a cheap replacement set after my Makitas got jacked and I'd be a liar if I didn't tell you they were impressive. A little heavy, but very well made and very good tools. I'd call them Rigid adjacent. If they didn't leave Canada I'd have MUCH more of them.
>DeWalt/Milwaukee
Industry standards for a reason, great tools. Milwaukee 12v tools are a godsend for service work/light duty work; their 18v tools are the fastest and punchiest in the industry but I know a lot of people who have to use the warranty often or just buy new tools. Dewalt is similar but appears to be more reliable, they trade blows performance wise, though I often find better deals on Dewalt tools. Dewalt also has their Atomic lineup, cheaper smaller brushless tools on the same 18v batteries, which I'm partial to.
>Makita
My bias is always for the teal tools. I've beaten and tortured my 'kitas for years and they never quit. There's a reason every knockoff tool ever uses Makita batteries, they're simple and reliable. They make great power, often less than red and yellow but make up for it in reliability. The greatest downsides are price (never on sale) and where I am availability kinda sucks, but they're the best tools money can buy in my mind.
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Don't leave Ryobi batteries on the tool after you have finished using it.
The tool eventually drains all the charge in the battery and its internal circuit board goes into fault mode because it cannot see the cells.
The fix is to get a AA battery and solder a couple of leads on it then put it across each cell in the correct polarity to put a small amount of charge in the cells. The circuit board will then see the cells and the charger will work.
Definitely applies to Ryobi 18V and probably also 36V batteries.
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>>2982539
they'e slower to come out with new tools but they have plenty of power and one of the better price/performance ratios in the industry, lowe's will often have sales where you're saving more than you're spending
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>>2983344
And depending on your local lowe's they don't have a big selection in store compared to the other brands, so if you absolutely need a tool or battery that day they might not have it. But online you can find everything.
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>>2982309
it wouldn't make sense either, craftsman is the ryobi competitor and kobalt is the ridgid competitor, two different market segments
if anything they should get rid of skil, it's just another craftsman without the legacy brand recognition
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Yesterday my yellow drill began twisting off the pvc trim from the window when putting up blinds
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>>2983347
>if anything they should get rid of skil, it's just another craftsman without the legacy brand recognition
The brand that literally invented the portable electric circular saw?
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>>2982450
I have a rigid hacksaw with fucked up battery tabs. I have to hold the battery in place when I use it or the vibration breaks the contact. Batteries also drain quick, but they're old now. I can't get reliable info if I can refurb them with new cells or if the bms is going to be a fag about it.
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TTI gang represent
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>>2972950
i use ryobi because my mates keep buying them, getting mad at them not working, and handing them off to me to have a go at fixing (hobby sparky).
every time they've burned out something by trying to use the tool wrong.
like using the drill to try and put 20 holes in a cement foundation.
which its not made for.
or the impact driver as a fucking wire wheel tool to remove an entire outside bench worth of rust, and ran it for like 4 hours solid.
or trying to cut down a tree with the fucking circ saw, of course the wet wood and the weight of a tree on the blade would grind it to a halt and overheat it.
thing is, because they died quickly, its usually one burned out component on the control board, i swap it out, give it back, they repeat the idiocy, and just give the tools to me, and buy some milwaukee tools that put up with being misused for longer.
ryobi is FINE for light usage, which is what most people will use it for, they only become a problem when you're looking for a 24/7 workhorse, but want to save $50.
like buying a bag of chips for lunch instead of actual food and complaining that you're hungry again at dinner.
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>>2973461
i love how you are posturing as a manly man while nitpicking over the color of your toys like a woman
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*blocks you're path*
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>>2985820
>About the same price
>Already own batteries for it
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