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Why are these things so ungodly expensive? Are they at least worth it quality and ergonomics wise?
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>>2975562
>Why are these things so ungodly expensive
same reason yhetti coolers and those randy savage sunglasses are
if youre doing field work its nice to have a hd man purse to haul your shit in because cardboard boxes inevitably tear apart
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>>2975562
Theyre certainly flashy bags, but they hold up well, I beat the shit out of mine and you would hardly know. The pockets are also set up a bit more logically for the intended trade the bag is for, the average 5gal bucket insert always has fucky pocket sizing and placement so shit falls out.
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I got one of these from a yardsale like 15 years ago for $2. Is fine
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>>2975562
poor detected
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>>2975783
I got a Stanley toolbox with wheels and a pull handle and it has held up incredibly well. Has about 35kg of stuff inside.
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>>2975775
This seems to be the answer. Haven't owned them but everyone I see says they're tough. The pocket game also suits the obsessively organized types. A brand I like, for the same reasons, is CLC (Custom Leather Craft). They're owned by some bigger outfit (because what isn't anymore), sell their stuff under another name up in Canuckistan, and they've done some branded bags for DeWalt I believe, but they're another "get what you pay for" producer. What I'd recommend is keeping a watch on Craigslist, Marketplace, etc and checking pawn shops, consignment stores, etc too. I got my CLC bag, which apparently retails around $160 now, for about $30 from a bumfuck flea market about a decade ago and it's still holding up.
>>2975854
That's some crazy shit though. Wonder if anyone has brought it up with them and if they're gonna remedy it.
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>>2975562
I have this. 1/10th of the price and mine has lasted for 4+ years.
Why people buy expensive brand-name shit? To show off. It's fashion.
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I've done 6 years of heavy industrial use with my pro pac. It's scuffed and dirty as fuck now, but nothing has been damaged and I've had it overloaded with tools since day 1. If you're an apprentice you can get a discount on it too. Extremely worth it
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How do I clean picrel? These guys have been with me for over 10 years, but they need a thorough cleaning.
Will Tuff Stuff fuck the cheapo plastic up?
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Harbor freight for the win
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>>2979364
There isn't a great deal of difference in most respects to hand tools except a mechanic has the advantage of the tool truck coming to him to collect all his busted sockets and tools. The regular guy has to drive them back himself.
That advantage is not worth paying 5x+ the price, IMO.
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>>2979475
Yeah let me spend $200 on a canvas bag to throw ratchet straps behind the rear seat of the pickup... Fuck off idiot. The harbor freight bags have their place and anyone that says otherwise is a mega retard.
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20 years ago I had a local canvas shop make me a tool bag to my needs, cost me $90. Spent another $60 in the past 20 years having them do a couple fixes and a minor change while they were at it. Probably would cost $150 in today money.
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>>2975562
A good tool bag needs to tough as hell because loose tools will damage weaker materials.
A good tool bag needs to be designed with logical layouts, pockets, and spaces that allows for organization.
A good tool bag needs to be large enough to hold your gear but not so large it's a cumbersome bitch that gets in the way.
All of that taken into account you need something made with tough material (special tools and more expensive material), well designed (planning, multi-step prep, etc), and researched. All that leads to something that will be expensive.
That said, MOST people don't need a GOOD tool bag, just a canvas tote with common shit in it. Good tool bags are for people who make a living doing work with tools instead of small repairs and basic handyman stuff.
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>>2979355
I had one once, almost completely forgotten about it.. Lasted less than a year. It got a hole in one of the inner pockets and a tool or two disappeared in between the layers of the bottom. Found out after completely clearing it out one day and tossed it. Also black bags suck since it tends to hide dark/black items especially in low lighting situations.
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>>2975562
well for one they're made in the USA so of course it's going to be ungodly expensive, just like most of the other MIUSA tools. I still think it's worth it though, i like my tool belt that is all western made (a collection of Australian and USA made pouches/belt)
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>>2979477
>you can attach makita boxes to the bottom
you sure about that? AFAIK, their adapter only works for getting topped, this can only attach to Strauss/metabox.
But seems like a neat setup if you need to move around with a bunch of loose tools, but have one device that you need to keep in a box to protect it, like some sensible measurement equipment.
Didn't know Engelbert-Strauss expanded their box setup that much, pic related is oddly attractive to me. Not like I need it, but my daily commuter backpack is falling apart and this one would really fit my
>I'm an individual!
autism. Kinda the evolution of the incel-pack, and the attachment would get about as much use as the usual molle attachments.
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>>2979355
voyager < bauer < hercules
spend the extra few bucks and hf does make some halfway decent cheap shit
or at least it won't immediately fall apart
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>>2981150
>Use a cart
Then you don't need a good tool bag, you have a cart. You need a good bag if you are having to tote that shit everywhere.
I've considered making a tool bag out of some stout leather that is actually comprised of a bunch of snapped on pouches that each have sturdy belt fasteners so you can just pop off what you need and slap it on your belt. Figure I will make the walls and bottom lined with magnets so most tools don't slide around too.
Honestly though, seems like it will be over engineered to the point it would be hilariously expensive to make for market, so it would just be a one off thing.
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>>2986325
>What are decent alternatives to milwaukee pack out?
Are you kidding me? PackOut? In 2026? Let me educate you.
MacPac is objectively superior in every way. The stackability is tighter, the latches are more satisfying to click, and the foam inserts are 3mm thicker on average. Anyone still buying PackOut clearly hasn't discovered MacPac yet. PackOut fanboys are basically still using flip phones.
That said, if you actually did your research, you'd know MacPac is a complete joke compared to Festool/Thanos Systainer. The Systainer has been the industry standard for DECADES. German engineering, modular compatibility going back to the 90s, and it clicks together with the precision of a Swiss watch. MacPac feels like a Happy Meal toy by comparison.
Of course, anyone recommending Systainer has clearly never touched a Metabox/Straussbox setup. European build quality, insane accessory ecosystem, attaches to half the work vans on the continent, and the organizational options make Systainer look like a Rubbermaid tote from 2003.
Now, if budget is a concern (no shame), HART's Connect system from Walmart actually interlocks surprisingly well, costs a third of the price, and is available same-day. Straussbox guys will cope and seethe but their system costs more than my first car.
DeWalt ToughSystem 2.0 absolutely destroys HART though. IP65 rated, metal latch reinforcements, and DeWalt's distribution network means you can find accessories literally everywhere. HART's ecosystem is three SKUs and a prayer.
Obviously anyone serious about jobsite storage has already moved past DeWalt and is running full Milwaukee PackOut. Unmatched accessory variety, insane third-party support, IP54 rating, and it goes on sale constantly on OfferUp for $200-250.
Wait, what?
I don't really care, just annoys me that every (((pro))) tool comes in those fuckers, which ads plenty of moneys to their already steep asking price and I don't really have a need for them. What even is that stack worth?