>>2975562 >Why are these things so ungodly expensive same reason yhetti coolers and those randy savage sunglasses are if youre doing field work its nice to have a hd man purse to haul your shit in because cardboard boxes inevitably tear apart
>>2975562 Theyre certainly flashy bags, but they hold up well, I beat the shit out of mine and you would hardly know. The pockets are also set up a bit more logically for the intended trade the bag is for, the average 5gal bucket insert always has fucky pocket sizing and placement so shit falls out.
>>2975839 We use these at work and they hold up well. Rivet the handle rollpins in place, they're only like 1/4" long and don't go all the way through so we've had them pop out and lost the handle.
>>2975854 >Sure it's more expensive than a similar sized box but least you can lose the handle and your tools can fall out or some dipshit with sticky fingers can just walk by and grab something
>>2975775 This seems to be the answer. Haven't owned them but everyone I see says they're tough. The pocket game also suits the obsessively organized types. A brand I like, for the same reasons, is CLC (Custom Leather Craft). They're owned by some bigger outfit (because what isn't anymore), sell their stuff under another name up in Canuckistan, and they've done some branded bags for DeWalt I believe, but they're another "get what you pay for" producer. What I'd recommend is keeping a watch on Craigslist, Marketplace, etc and checking pawn shops, consignment stores, etc too. I got my CLC bag, which apparently retails around $160 now, for about $30 from a bumfuck flea market about a decade ago and it's still holding up.
>>2975854 That's some crazy shit though. Wonder if anyone has brought it up with them and if they're gonna remedy it.
>>2975867 We overload them with a hydraulic power unit. We found a flaw and a remedy so customers don't complain their box fell apart. Like I said, they hold up well, considering.
I've done 6 years of heavy industrial use with my pro pac. It's scuffed and dirty as fuck now, but nothing has been damaged and I've had it overloaded with tools since day 1. If you're an apprentice you can get a discount on it too. Extremely worth it
>>2979364 There isn't a great deal of difference in most respects to hand tools except a mechanic has the advantage of the tool truck coming to him to collect all his busted sockets and tools. The regular guy has to drive them back himself.
That advantage is not worth paying 5x+ the price, IMO.
>>2979475 Yeah let me spend $200 on a canvas bag to throw ratchet straps behind the rear seat of the pickup... Fuck off idiot. The harbor freight bags have their place and anyone that says otherwise is a mega retard.
>>2979355 Mines fucking destroyed. Found a Milwaukee electricians belt with all the pouches and everything at goodwill for $19 when it's normally $100. That thing has been holding up stupidly well for all my tools
20 years ago I had a local canvas shop make me a tool bag to my needs, cost me $90. Spent another $60 in the past 20 years having them do a couple fixes and a minor change while they were at it. Probably would cost $150 in today money.
>>2975562 A good tool bag needs to tough as hell because loose tools will damage weaker materials. A good tool bag needs to be designed with logical layouts, pockets, and spaces that allows for organization. A good tool bag needs to be large enough to hold your gear but not so large it's a cumbersome bitch that gets in the way. All of that taken into account you need something made with tough material (special tools and more expensive material), well designed (planning, multi-step prep, etc), and researched. All that leads to something that will be expensive.
That said, MOST people don't need a GOOD tool bag, just a canvas tote with common shit in it. Good tool bags are for people who make a living doing work with tools instead of small repairs and basic handyman stuff.
>>2979355 I had one once, almost completely forgotten about it.. Lasted less than a year. It got a hole in one of the inner pockets and a tool or two disappeared in between the layers of the bottom. Found out after completely clearing it out one day and tossed it. Also black bags suck since it tends to hide dark/black items especially in low lighting situations.
>>2980299 At work I just load up all of my tools in a big Milwaukee contractor bag and it's always on a cart so it won't get raw meat all over it. It only cost 20 bucks.
>>2975562 well for one they're made in the USA so of course it's going to be ungodly expensive, just like most of the other MIUSA tools. I still think it's worth it though, i like my tool belt that is all western made (a collection of Australian and USA made pouches/belt)
>>2975562 Reminds me of people telling you absolutely need to do bench press and purchase the most expensive equipment, when you are fine with weighted push ups and dips, health wise.
>>2975562 Meh. Unless you can click into some fancy systainers like >>2979477, I’m not gonna respect you. What’s next, you’re gonna pull out tools that are not Strap-On, feStool or Hilddi? No thanks, that’s don’t hire amateurs.
>>2979476 >>2979477 >you can attach makita boxes to the bottom you sure about that? AFAIK, their adapter only works for getting topped, this can only attach to Strauss/metabox. But seems like a neat setup if you need to move around with a bunch of loose tools, but have one device that you need to keep in a box to protect it, like some sensible measurement equipment. Didn't know Engelbert-Strauss expanded their box setup that much, pic related is oddly attractive to me. Not like I need it, but my daily commuter backpack is falling apart and this one would really fit my >I'm an individual! autism. Kinda the evolution of the incel-pack, and the attachment would get about as much use as the usual molle attachments.
>>2979355 voyager < bauer < hercules spend the extra few bucks and hf does make some halfway decent cheap shit or at least it won't immediately fall apart
>>2981150 >Use a cart Then you don't need a good tool bag, you have a cart. You need a good bag if you are having to tote that shit everywhere.
I've considered making a tool bag out of some stout leather that is actually comprised of a bunch of snapped on pouches that each have sturdy belt fasteners so you can just pop off what you need and slap it on your belt. Figure I will make the walls and bottom lined with magnets so most tools don't slide around too.
Honestly though, seems like it will be over engineered to the point it would be hilariously expensive to make for market, so it would just be a one off thing.
>>2986325 >What are decent alternatives to milwaukee pack out? Are you kidding me? PackOut? In 2026? Let me educate you. MacPac is objectively superior in every way. The stackability is tighter, the latches are more satisfying to click, and the foam inserts are 3mm thicker on average. Anyone still buying PackOut clearly hasn't discovered MacPac yet. PackOut fanboys are basically still using flip phones. That said, if you actually did your research, you'd know MacPac is a complete joke compared to Festool/Thanos Systainer. The Systainer has been the industry standard for DECADES. German engineering, modular compatibility going back to the 90s, and it clicks together with the precision of a Swiss watch. MacPac feels like a Happy Meal toy by comparison. Of course, anyone recommending Systainer has clearly never touched a Metabox/Straussbox setup. European build quality, insane accessory ecosystem, attaches to half the work vans on the continent, and the organizational options make Systainer look like a Rubbermaid tote from 2003. Now, if budget is a concern (no shame), HART's Connect system from Walmart actually interlocks surprisingly well, costs a third of the price, and is available same-day. Straussbox guys will cope and seethe but their system costs more than my first car. DeWalt ToughSystem 2.0 absolutely destroys HART though. IP65 rated, metal latch reinforcements, and DeWalt's distribution network means you can find accessories literally everywhere. HART's ecosystem is three SKUs and a prayer. Obviously anyone serious about jobsite storage has already moved past DeWalt and is running full Milwaukee PackOut. Unmatched accessory variety, insane third-party support, IP54 rating, and it goes on sale constantly on OfferUp for $200-250. Wait, what? I don't really care, just annoys me that every (((pro))) tool comes in those fuckers, which ads plenty of moneys to their already steep asking price and I don't really have a need for them. What even is that stack worth?
>>2986591 That said, what really grinds my gears it compatibility, or rather, lack thereof, especially, when is close, but no cigar. Like, look at this! Old metaloc (? I think that's what they called their system) is fully compatible to thanos systainer3 (probably the previous versions too, I would assume it's based on the older version), it just doesn't allow for stacked opening (if you put thanos on metaloc, metaloc on thanos works) but a stack bigger than 3 sucks to open anyways. And it's not surprising, since metaloc is made by thanos. But what really annoys me is that tiny plastic nub, that holds all your heavy, expensive tools, when carrying a stack. It's a bit beefier on metaloc, but still. Their new system however, is not made by thanos anymore (but still made in Germany, I think) but still has plenty of elements from the old/thanos, the back latches fit and it even has the shitty nub, but as a joke. Like, WTF? why would you do that? And packout? Well, at least that's a totally different system from all the others and, uh, well, you can attach a thermos bottle to the side of your tool suitcase. Absolute life changer! If I weren't a backpack dude, I'd gut them and use them as le-quirky-ironic-hipster travelling luggage.
>>2975562 Things cost money and our currency hasn't actually inflated into our hands. Man power is a huge part of that cost because of ballooning insurance costs. So for some jobs you can literally start your own business doing it yourself if regulations allow you.
This one looks interesting, just that I wonder if it will fit a driller on one side, a grinder on the other, and multiple tools on all the other internal pouches: https://www.amazon.es/dp/B00P00WHK6
>>2975562 Probably isn't worth getting those non enclosed ones. The fully enclosed ones are well worth the money, had mine 7 years, beat the dog shit out of it. Sat right on the top of it, used it as a step stool when I need a few more inches, still strong. If you have the loot and like nice shit like I do, they are worth the money.
Got one of these from Walmart a while ago just so I could carry essential tools in and out of boats, works really nice especially if I have to walk for a distance out in the yard. Handle is decently comfortable too.
>>2988667 >Rolykit There were about a hundred of those sold at a somewhat local auction house... Some old man must have hoarded a shit ton of them. They were all new and never used.
Contractor here. I have several veto bags. My trim tool kit all resides in an XL closed top and I use another for an electrical pouch. Nothing else is even remotely close to veto for build quality. Probably 10 yrs on those bags and they're dirty but 100% intact.
>>2975562 if you want to talk practical and ergonomic, i really like a good tool belt. occidental leather is what i use but there are plenty of manufacturers out there.
>>2992791 >no compressor or welder >no crane >cocksucker to turn and back around in tight spots >no exterior access to shit inside >the trailer is the best tool container [x]doubt
>>2994136 there's a compressor and dust collection units that you can't see behind the saws on the wall. also, who needs a crane when you have an excavator?
>>2994224 It's for steep forest land and building a cabin. Cool stuff, I thought you were another shit talker. Do you mind me asking what kind of work you do?
>>2986325 i'll say the hart (walmart brand) packouts are like 20% the price and work just as well. the roller box with two full size organizers and a half size is 80% it's rugged and works great >>2986591 don't care just need some stackable shit with wheels
>>2994294 i'll addendum my work truck has over 30 milwaukee packouts in it, they're great but the walmart ones I bought for myself before job are just as good. i can stand on them or whatever it's a no brainer to me i'm just waiting for a proper drawer system from them. they just have stupid shallow drawers.
>>2994294 Hart has pulled itself from walmart. If you are bought into their system, you better buy everything now because they wont be for sale much longer.
>>2994297 "system" i have a cheap rolling cart with some stackables, if I never get anything else it's still a bargain I was looking and their 'hypertough' seems to be a duplicate but better colors
>>2976014 Contractor here. 5 gallon buckets and liners do not work better for tradesmen, though. 5 gallon buckets get brittle, the bottoms blow out, the plastic bit on the handle breaks off, and you look like a poorfag hack. Veto is worth the money for daily use and abuse.