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Let's say you are lazy af and want to design your own house.
How would you design a self-cleaning or easy to clean bathroom? Say, a bathroom that you are able to clean fully using pressure washers, window cleaning robots, UV lights, cleaning soap dispensers (like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oX5AAiwpiz8&t=265s) or whatever, and then using something (a big fan maybe) to dry it quickly.
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Floor sloped to middle, floor drain, and marble, granite, or some other kind of waterproof tile and grout on the floor, up the walls, and even on the ceiling. Plumb a steel line through the walls to a quick connect to plug in your pressure washer outside and run it inside to wash it all down.
Or stainless sheeted and fully welded seams.
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>>2977903
>self cleaning toilet
i'd probably not design it like this
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>>2977937
They only disinfect, they don't clean.
Just build out of non-porous materials, SS steel, glazed tile (grouted with Opus signinum or other GP mortar), granite etc
The annoying parts of cleaning are cracks crevices and porous surfaces
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Concrete floor with a floor drain. Sealed with epoxy. Pic related for fixtures.
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Any tips to make my flat easier to clean generally? I spent a few days fixing my cable management, that helped but ideally I would like most things to take as little time as possible. I already have a robot vacuum and mop.
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>>2978537
Have less stuff. Put stuff in closed storage spaces so less dusting is needed. Make it easy to move furniture around so you can clean underneath/behind. Always consider how much effort is needed to clean something if you want to buy something new. Have the right cleaning agent for each job. Have someone else do the cleaning.
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I'll give it to you straight: we've been trying to work this out for the past 40 years. There still isn't a good solution. The in-tank chemicals are some of the closest that there is when it comes to extending time to between cleaning, but ultimately there is no replacement for physical displacement. Eventually, the chemicals will run out, bacteria will build resistance to chemical attacks enough to grow where concentrations are lower, and once the bacteria establishes a layer of biofilm on the surface it's just a matter of time for it to spread. The biofilm creates a protective layer where the bacteria underneath can continue to spread. Even if you kill the surface, the carcasses of the film still create a layer protecting the bacteria underneath, so higher chemical concentrations aren't the solution here. Different chemicals can remove this film but are also so incredibly bad for the environment that you would be fined for flushing them down the drain should the authorities find out.
Next, consider where the filth is. Hydrophobic surface coatings can help reduce skid marks and the like underneath the water, but anything that dries above the water line becomes difficult to remove. Splashing piss will never have a good solution with conventional bowl shapes and flushing methods (spoiler: those are also unlikely to change anytime soon due to codes and standards regulating them). Hard water will also negatively impact cleanliness. Do NOT use pumice to remove hard water stains; this will damage the enamel and lead to faster bacteria buildup since you create thousands of little cracks that bacteria can hide in. Turn supply stop off, flush, then use chemicals to dissolve away the hard water. And sit down to piss, you'll get less splashing, extending time between cleaning.
Also if you don't have a bidet why are you worried about your toilet when you're walking around with shit smeared all over your ass.
t. toilet engineer at one of the big four plumbing manufacturers.
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>>2977903
I used to work as a butcher in a factory and the entire workplace was washed using a pressure washer. Everything mechanical was waterproof, there were drains in the floor every couple meters and the walls were covered in some vinyl sheeting. The pressure water would first shoot a foaming detergent/sanitizer that we'd have to leave for 10 mins or so, and then we'd rinse everything down with hot water, use a big squeegee broom to push water to the drains and the ventilation system would get rid of any residual humidity.
I've always fantasized about implementing something similar for a kitchen or bathroom. Just a minimalistic space with stainless steel or porcelain furniture that you could just blast with a pressure washer to sanitize and clean.
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OP- There used to be a style of combination unit (sink and commode) that was used on railway cars, for the roomettes/suites. It was made of stainless and would fold into the wall.
If you improved on that, so that when folded it initiated a wash function similar to what is used in a dishwasher, you'd probably achieve what you're after.
Here's a pic of a modern, similar stand alone folding sink.
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Plastic floor and walls, centrally placed showerhead with a bidet nozzle that reaches everywhere. No small hidden corners.
Every time i shower i hose down the whole bathroom and scrape the water into the drain. Sometimes i hit everything with chlorine foam.
It is so great you cannot believe.
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At least he won't get worms in the house. lmao