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>>2987766
They want to be servile and glorify killing themselves for a master. It's people like >>2987950 and >>2987933 that perpetuate it. You say you want better workers rights or a work life balance and the very people that stand to gain the most will mock you and kiss boots. My solution was to become management and run my people how I see fit. Would recommend that or to start your own business. It's only worth working hard for yourself. Everyone else will take advantage of you.
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>>2987766
None of your bosses give a fuck about your safety, unless OSHA comes down on their asses. I was in a wire-spooling shop for a while. We all wore badges that would turn colors if our copper exposure got too high. You could put one of those badges INTO a machine full of copper dust and it wouldn't go off.
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>>2989276
That's actually pretty funny
>>2987766
If you are smart enough to want to wear PPE than you are too smart for this job and should be looking elsewhere. Not giving a shit about worker safety is the norm for the lowest tiers and won't change.
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I was just thinking recently, is carbon fiber really any better than asbestos in terms of worker hazards? Seems like it's got a lot of the exact same issues. I wonder if we're gonna look back in 50 years and see it the same way we look at asbestos now.
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I'm on the cusp of joining a pipefitter union. How much of this tough guy shit am I going to likely run into?
I'd rather fight a respirator or grinder guard than a hospital bill.
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>>2993807
Caught up with an old high school acquaintance 4 or 5 years ago. Hes a boilermaker and apparently is browbeaten into using brake kleen before welding, and that PPE use is looked down upon. He was diagnosed with heart problems in high school and said he was really worried about taxing his circulatory system with fumes and grinding dust.
He never left the small town we grew up in, he got a hobart welding school cert and remember him not landing a welding job for 3-4 years out of high school, so there isnt any way he quit the job on his own.
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>>2991059
>I was just thinking recently, is carbon fiber really any better than asbestos in terms of worker hazards?
It won't give you lung cancer, but it will give you horrific pneumonia that you may never recover from.
I've worked with nanoscale powders and they all carry the same kinds of risks that require the use of fume hoods, gloves, and respirators.
>>2993807
I've already had metal fume fever two times in my life. I'd rather not have chronic symptoms associated with it.
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>>2993807
I nearly always use PPE and keep extra for others, they say no when I offer it; but when they see me after a few jobs continuing to use it they'll join in. I've regretted at some point not wearing every piece of it.
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