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>>3068532
>literal slop as op pic
lmao fitting

>>3068533
Requesting a girl wearing a silicone bra.

>artist lora bakers baking
let's gooo

>>3068542
It's a really nice image.

>>3068542
For IA schizo slop is high art.

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>>3068555
>shark teeth Neru
hot

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>>3068546

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>>3068533
How about one of these again?
Three versions of the same girl (OC or existing character, whatever you feel like)

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>>3068561
I'm gonna need some boxs here anon

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>>3068533
Requesting topless jeans pinups of Lynae (Wuthering Waves).

>>3068563
Sure, it's just three fairly simple prompts though.
regular https://litter.catbox.moe/yf1daxq8ny88d38b.png
gyaru https://litter.catbox.moe/ep7oggfltf7h9s76.png
goth https://litter.catbox.moe/vqs1slfpnmjdzdzi.png

fyi the repo recommended LR of 0.00002 for Anima LoRAs might be good for animé styles or for reinforcing artists the model already knows.
if you're doing a Western art style or a lesser-known artist, you'll need to go a bit harder. I suggest at least 5e-5

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>>3068560
I prompted it, but my heart was not ready for gyaru ver

>>3068574
hnngh

>>3068578
That seems dangerous, Penny

>>3068578
Ma'am, that's not the correct way to use a ladder!

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>>3068533
Requesting Flannery sunbathing naked

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>>3068586
would all three

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>>3068602
Only thing that bothers me is that I cannot see Goths dressing like nightclub whores. nightclub wear for a goth involves a lot more leather and fishnets.

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>>3068528
man when I see this pic, I remember this gif

>>3068560
Can someone do an existing gyaru so that gyaru becomes her regular self, and you have to do an alternate costume for regular?

>>3068608
I imagine the "pink" version of the normal-gyaru is excessively pink themed mahou shoujo or something.

>>3068578
Get this moist bitch away from the BOOKS

>>3068602
>>3068604
>>3068612
Prompt?

>>3068612
lol

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>>3068533
Requesting Isane celebrating a birthday while she's in her birthday suit

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>>3068614
https://litter.catbox.moe/oyflo7jg7egyd364.png

>>3068589
box?

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https://youtu.be/Hesi16U8NXQ?si=-1fU8bHWXUr9aNeY

>>3068633
Can I ask for Misora?

>>3068533
Requesting Moetron

Figured I'd ask here since it's the place where I would (eventually) post
Before I go down the slopping rabbithole, I wanna make sure: is it possible to gen interesting scenes with multiple characters? As in, groups of 5/6 characters doing different things within an actually coherent space, not just a lineup in a white scene; I'd assume there would be a lot of inpainting (?) involved or something like that?

>>3068652
Yes. Research regional prompter

Or wait for models like Anima to get better

>>3068652
This would actually take skill at photoshopping, understanding how the models work and a lot of inpainting. I don't think you'll ever be able to do it.

>>3068652
It's possible, but it would require a decent amount of work. Also, that's not even something real artist do often and consistently enough for models to learn.

>>3068533
Once again requesting on-model/art accurate nudify of this character:
>https://static.atlasacademy.io/JP/CharaGraph/405000/405000a@2.png

>>3068657
Why can't you just fucking type "suzuka gozen (swimsuit rider)" instead of having people guess based on a tiny png you cretinous faggot?

Is there an agreed upon best Comfy workflow for multiple characters in a single frame? I'm messing around with latent couple pose right now but not working well

>>3068654
That's a bit funny because I am kinda good with Photoshop, I actually used to do paid commissions
But obviously this is a whole different deal, I can't just add in stuff like drawn shadows and ambient occlusion and coherent lighting without.. well without drawing them manually, which kinda defeats the purpose

>>3068655
Oh I realise there's no training for it, that's why I mentioned inpainting
My idea would be slopping up a scenery with one character doing X with costume A and then add other characters doing Y or Z in costume A. Nothing too extreme obviously, something like dancing or posing, but slightly more elaborate than a simple lineup on a white background

>>3068653
Naisu, that's a really good tip

>>3068652
Link an example image of what you would like to do.

It's definitely not an ideal use case for AI, but depends on how close together the girls are. Main issue comes from screen space/resolution, AI struggles to simplify features of objects and characters further away from the camera the way an artist would (or LOD in videogames), it attempts to produce full detail with not enough pixels and fails miserably. There are workarounds but they're a lot more involved than just writing a prompt.

>>3068678
>link an example
https://konachan.com/post/show/345734 or https://konachan.com/post/show/371061 are the first examples I can think of, with added complexity for stuff like those typical hot springs views and reduced complexity for "sitting on a bench at equal distance from the camera"
I guess perspective could be a problem as well, but I have no clue how actually capable these new models are (I had only looked into this in '24 and obviously things weren't there yet) hence my question; that being said, I'm perfectly ok with these things being more involved than a simple 1-2-3 process, I'd much rather get a couple of dream pics than shit out hundreds of basic copycats

>>3068640
A dress made only of flowers is possible?

>>3068661
First off, if they're named characters you can just mention their names and features/actions they share, let the AI figure out their clothes and expressions from its own knowledge: https://litter.catbox.moe/pel9aqd9rc4kjn0g.png
Second, if you're on Anima just prompt "girl on the left has X and does Y, girl on the right etc." There's usually no need for regional: https://litter.catbox.moe/u646oo92x2p5b08e.png

---regional starts here---
If you're using latent mode you might as well use built-in nodes and not complicate things: https://litter.catbox.moe/axwppbmtg6wt8we0.png
I recommend leaving the "overall" prompt in all areas. Instead of putting it in a separate one covering he whole image as was the old practice.

Attention mode is easier to work with, but every implementation I've seen was a bit wonky, each in a different way (and there's at least three of them): https://litter.catbox.moe/zh94luwyvmguw4ad.png

Let me know if you have questions, I'm bored.

>>3068688
Yeah that seems perfectly doable, and the second one is basically a lineup. I was worried that you meant something like https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/5811423

>>3068658
That's a direct rip from the game at the highest resolution available for it retard

Has anyone tried using Anima on Forge Neo?

>>3068694
are you retarded

>>3068692
The point that got lost somewhere in your guys' argument is that anyone filling the request will need to know her name.

>>3068694
>>3068695
yes

>>3068652
>is it possible to gen interesting scenes with multiple characters?
No.

>>3068691
The maximum level of complexity would be something like https://konachan.com/post/show/326999, I still want the characters to be fully visible and recognisable
But this has been encouraging, and anon's writeup above is a good starting point on where to eventually look once I got the basics. Thanks anons!

>>3068698
aieeeeeeeee I yield I yield

>>3068663
>I am kinda good with Photoshop, I actually used to do paid commissions
One random guy on Discord once asked him to Photoshop his ex's head onto a porn scene, and thanked him with a $5 Steam voucher

>>3068533
Requesting girls at the beach wearing a sarong but no bikini bottom. Top is optional

Why is the quality of these threads declining?

>>3068698
Guess it depends on what you consider interesting. I've tried a few before with just a raw regional prompt.
>>>/u/4468442
/u/ actually does a ton of regional, but only 2girls
>>>/h/8237700

Or with a more involved process
>>>/h/8110906
https://litter.catbox.moe/3t4nxuonc5tyikz3.png

>>3068663
You can sketch your own lineart or blobs of color, and have AI use it as a reference for where to place characters, the relative size, poses, distances, etc. Gives you a lot more control.

>>3068702
Because of you, let's be honest.

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>>3068699
I did this up in illustriuous about a year ago and it took a lot of time and inpainting to still end up with imperfect results. I haven't tested many girls in anima yet though.

>>3068699
I can tell you how I'd recreate that post you linked, using SD and Photoshop, and it may be a good approach to making your multiple-person image.

The 5 girls would be one gen each, on a white background. White background so that you can isolate the subject. They are basically clones of each other, with small differences in hair and hair ornaments. Those 5 gens then become 5 Photoshop layers that you arrange, as in the post, with some overlap. Now you can see that the backdrop is just an extra layer beneath them (layer 6, or 0 since it's on the bottom). The girls aren't interacting with the environment in any way, only with their own bodies and the objects they are holding. So that simplifies things massively.

You can then add the girls' shadows and lower the shadow opacity to blend with the backdrop. You said you can't just add drawn shadows? But you can. Looking at that post, the shadows follow the outline of the girls' bodies. You mentioned ambient occlusion, but that's not an issue in a 2D scene.

Layer 7 would then be the shadow of the tree canopy, on top of everything else. That can be painted with basic leaf-shaped brushes.

The trickiest part (and it's not that hard) would be the backdrop, because it needs to be 3-4 times the dimensions of whatever resolution you're generating the girls at. I'd do it as one single gen, then blow it up to the final dimensions you want, and then inpaint whole segments of it, like tiles. You may also require some inpainting on the seams where the tiles meet.

Then you'd do the usual stuff to combine everything. Gradient maps, lighting, filters, etc. I'm missing steps, but that's the gist of it.

>>3068707
Just be sure to generate every girl from the same height/angle. You add the shadows later, when you decide where the global light source is. You can normally generate drop shadows, but you can't for this piece because they'll all appear at different angles.

>>3068699
>The maximum level of complexity would be something like https://konachan.com/post/show/326999
that's like basic regional prompter stuff

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>>3068690
Interesting, I haven't been genning for like over a year so I'm out of date with stuff. I'll look into Anima

>>3068713
booooooox

>>3068718
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>>3068707
That's some impressive Photoshop skill. But isn't it wasting the potential of AI when you do so much of the work yourself? If you have a composition in mind just sketch it out like a 3-yo with crayons, then use regional prompter together with controlnet.

>>3068719
Thank you!

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>>3068689
Not 100% but pretty close.

>>3068723
there's a /u/ thread bwo...

>>3068725
i guess it did evolve into yuri as i refined it

>>3068726
she's literally getting fingerblasted
also you forgot to check your fingies

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>@mdfanise is just my gens but better
This is so much better than illustrious. I'm thrilled.

>>3068707
>>3068710
Yep, makes perfect sense
Thanks for the writeup anon, I'll keep it saved up for when I have my setup ready and going

>>3068720
This too, sketching is something I would have never thought of

>>3068727
fingers are fine although i can see it trying to add shading where you could mistaked it as a 6th finger. either way it's throwaway fap material

>>3068730
the front girl's left hand clearly has 6 fingers, that is not a shadow, that's a line

>>3068731
https://files.catbox.moe/4cv1pa.png
cool story bro. like i said
>i can see it trying to add shading where you could mistake it as a 6th finger
>>3068728
glad you like it. i wanted the style with less artifacting and synthetic datasets are ridiculously fast to train on so i had fun. training a lora on your gens for noob and illustrious also would've had a similar effect of keeping the style without having as many artifacts

>>3068720
It depends how much detail you want, I guess. Those 3 figures occupy relatively few pixels in the whole image compared to a 1girl image. So if I were doing that composition, I'd blow it up and then inpaint details for each figure individually. Which is just as much effort as the method I talked about.

Regional prompter is useful, though, for sure. I'd use it more as a tool to get a draft of the final thing, to visualise what I'm aiming for

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>>3068736
nice

>>3068692
Are you genuinely too retarded to understand that you need to know the character name to prompt it?

>>3068732
NTA, but I agree, the fingers are fucked. Why are you taking it so personally? It's not like you drew it. The AI did. Suck it up, bro

>>3068739
not bad 4/10 attempt at instigating shitposting

>>3068658
You know that "touch grass" meme is based on a real thing? I swear to God, go outside for five minutes, feel the sunlight on your face, listen to the birdsong. You won't feel the need to direct this kind of unwarranted aggression at strangers in a porn thread.

>>3068741
holy reddit response
you're the one who's REQUESTING porn, retard

>>3068657
wdym? you want gens of her?

>>3068732
>synthetic datasets are ridiculously fast to train on so i had fun
I'm glad you had fun, sweetie.

>>3068741
You are requesting porn for a gacha character and assuming everyone knows her by name, you don't get to tell anyone to go touch grass, you fucking spastic.

>>3068740
nta and just seeing random shit now, but yeah that hand is slightly fucked.
it's hard to explain but the ring finger and pinky are wonky. The ring finger is too close in to the middle finger and the pinky is too far away from the ring finger. The two fingers are basically taking 3 fingers worth of space.
also there's a bit of a weird overlap between the thumb and index finger where the lineweight is too thick in an incorrect angle.

>>3068742
Lol, no, I'm not the guy you have beef with. I didn't make the request. I'm just a bystander calling you out for your unwarranted, toxic outburst.
Wait, did you think this was a private chat?

>>3068745
Yeah, again, NTA. Just calling you out. Nobody else in this thread thinks your communication style is healthy or normal, either

>>3068747
again this response reeks of reddit

>>3068746
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>>3068732
also nta but i agree with the other two anons. that hand is really bad and should have been inpainted before posting. if you'd like my advice, do a final check for faces and hands before signing off on a gen. ai is notoriously bad at hands. look up adetailer

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lol

Just fix the fingers in the bag, lil bro.

>ai is notoriously bad at hands
a few years ago, yeah

>>3068469
dream woman
>>3068471
love the detail on this one
>>3068477
don't mind if i do
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>>3068736
nice

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>>3068701
Simple enough, why not! Anyway hello /edg/!
>>3068555
I almost missed this one, lovely Neru.
>>3068753
Sadly anima seems to have trouble with it, but it also isn't a finished model, so I guess it's not a fair comparison.

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>>3068657
I tried

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>meant to crop
>didn't mean to reply
fuck my bakachud life

>>3068666
>>3068733
hot damn
>>3068706
nice composition

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>>3068533
/r/ a very slutty wedding dress and slutty slippers

>>3068761
Never expected asou (asabu202) to be such prolific outdoors scenic background illustrator!

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>>3068560
Shinobu might get mistaken for a gyaru regularly due to her darker skin and light hair, but she can dress more up the part. I also like her cute attempt at being goth.

>>3068766
cute!

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>>3068560
Took a shot at it.

>>3068750
also nta but I agree with everyone else don't post extra fingers in my porn please

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/slop/ is a fucking hellscape so I'm just gonna post here today (/e/ content only of course)

Big fox.

>>3068774
Wait, today is more of a hellscape than usual? I thought you just got used to it. Welcome, anyway.

>>3068766
very cute
>>3068771
that's hot

>>3068774
Lovely kitsune, what a cute expression!

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>>3068775
Three simultaneous threads, all full of retard screaming. I don't wanna think about it, I just want to post cute girls.
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>>3068777
Thanks! And nice trips.

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>>3068634
It was bugging me that I posted the wrong upscale version of this pic. So here's the correct one.

>>3068774
>>3068778
Foxhole please?

>>3068780
inb4 don't spam
inb4 they're both slop
inb4 when are you posting the good one
inb4 that's /aco/

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>>3068780
Nice gen man!

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>>3068781
Sorry for the wait.

>>3068785
Cuuutie!

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>>3068560
>https://files.catbox.moe/6e09ji.jpeg
>https://files.catbox.moe/66kjtk.jpeg
>https://files.catbox.moe/1b997n.jpeg

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>>3068786
Thanks! Anything else? I'm up for requests in general.

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>>3068732
thanks, i'm having a lot of fun with it.

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>>3068794
nice variation on the theme. boxes?

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>>3068764
You get half of your request cause I've already been trying to get slutty footwear for my own strategic purposes many times in the past, and it's quite frankly not worth the effort.

>>3068795
There isn't any embedded metadata so they won't help you on that front. But if you just want the full images I can post them.

>>3068797
i was looking forward to the meta, actually

>>3068798
It's just nova anime XL v17.0
1girl, solo, grey panties, close-up, dark blue pleated skirt, skinny, upskirt, panty focus, pantyshot, ass focus, crotch seam, underwear, panties under pantyhose, pantyhose, long hair, pink hair, detailed art, detailed hair, detailed eyes, anime coloring,

Change the tags for each style. Nothing fancy.

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>>3068802
Oops wrong one.

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>>3068560
shimpuru isu besuto
>>3068799
thank you

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>>3068728
What all are you using?

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>>3068657
https://litter.catbox.moe/gh1oqmi84vx92wn2.jpg

>3068782
So you are just another tard who thinks that life has some magic cheat codes that enable you to go full asshole whenever you want.
Real human beings get over that childish crap before they enter secondary school.

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>>3068809
Anima with some black market loras

>>3068814
>goth Zelda
>not Hilda

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>>3068816
i was distracted by gyaru zelda

>>3068533
Re-requesting your take on a Racing Queen Vocaloid IA. Some examples:

>https://gelbooru com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=3473788
>https://gelbooru com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=3473789
>https://gelbooru com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=3473791

But by all means do your take. Make it /e/-friendly (topless, bottom exposed, etc) if at all possible. Thank you for your time.

>>3068748
>is healthy or normal, either
where do you think we are

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>>3068824
Probably in his hugbox discord channel where they ban you for saying "hell" on main.

>>3068823
Cute kitty! Love the back view~

>>3068735
Right. One advantage of doing them in a single pass is that they get uniform lighting, and can interact better with the environment or with each other. Of course that does mean you'll end up upscaling to like 4K, which could take minutes. Best to already have enough detail in place so that you can inpaint at very low denoise and not lose these things.

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Posting my ideal fantasy harem, Nr.1, elf mage

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>>3068829
Nr. 2, half-deer druid

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>>3068830
Nr. 3, thick necromancer goth gf

>>3068825
oh no not the heckin aych ee double hockey sticks!!

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>>3068831
Nr. 4, goblin jester. Any more ideas?

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>>3068834
Don't really have any ideas, but these are pretty creative.

>>3068830
Satyrs are so cute. Hnnnngh, love 'em!

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>>3068836
my first thought was he looks like the boy from PSG

>never get highlighted
>he doesnt return my smooches
>doesnt like my 1girl povs on /h/

>>3068843
perhaps you should change your approach

>>3068812
Huh?

>>3068845
Why would you even give attention to such an indirect reply

>>3068825
>>3068833
Are you having a good laugh at my expense? I wasn't going to say anything but you have pushed me to it... You are both very rude!!

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>>3068843
Perhaps you should stop trying to have a parasocial relationship with some other guy on 4channel who is obessed with getting to be OP of an ecchi slop sharing general.

>>3068834
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>>3068829
Are these Anima? Very clean style as well as cool concept and good execution. Would you mind sharing a catbox?

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>>3068834
Nr. 5, Genie fighter

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>>3068850
Nr. 6, soft cleric mommy

>>3068851
Best girl right here.

>>3068851
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>>3068829
we have a sanctioned template for this, friend. The one and original template

https://files.catbox.moe/56ulob.png

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>>3068849
Yup, newest version of anima, style is the same on all.

Also, Nr. 7, chubby succubus-cyclops hybrid

https://files.catbox.moe/96gw52.png

>>3068854
No space for my druid, no shot

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>>3068560
This gave me an idea for a manga/LN I of course never will work on.
Three childhood friends, one is a gyaru, another is a goth, he is a dead pan. Romcom antics and missunderstanding during 12 volumes. Nothing happens

>>3068823
Very cute and puffy Fufu, can I get her on a box?

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ez flight, without a flying spell

>>3068855
Amazing. You are spoiling us with this series. Are you on Patreon? If not, would you ever consider doing paid commissions?

>>3068862
They wear panties of each others' signature colors btw, we learn this early in the first season

>>3068853
Oh you are still alive. Haven't stolen any of your mixes for a while (˶˃ω˂˶)

>Anime Anima Anima Anima

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I watched Agent Aika and Aika Virgin Mission last night. Pretty mediocre aside from the opening theme song of Agent Aika. I liked all the asses though

>>3068872
it's crazy how desperate they are to get people to stop supporting civitai and switch to comfycloud or whatever their service is called. They aren't doing a good job though, all these anima gens are really ugly and basic, I guess there is no beating the years of refining SDXL had by the community. These shills should have waited until they something as good as Illustrious before trying to advertise here.

>>3068874
I think its only the same that happenned to other models, people just want to show they are using the most recent new stuff, even if that stuff aesthetically looks like shit (even if it shows promise)

Pony looked like shit, didn't really becamse meta until autism mix came out
Illustrious looked like shit, didn't really became meta until wai became a thing.
Noob is the only one that was a thing as base since the point of noob was being more like a blank canvas you can mold.

I guess anima will be the same, right now looks like shit aesthetically even if the model is good at composing images. It won't become a thing until some good mix comes out that gives aesthetic instant results

>>3068831
>>3068860
gives me a boner

Can you do her at the beach wearing a micro bikini and suggestively eating some ice cream that drips onto her?

>>3068877
>the point of noob was being more like a blank canvas you can mold
That much goes for every base model. The reason Autismmix even came out is that people recognized Pony was a massive upgrade over SD1.5 and Animagine in all but aesthetics, and we started using it. It only "became meta" on /e/ two months later because you're always behind on adoption.

>>3068880
people here have an established style and care more about genning their thing than trying to make new tech work
but yes, someone has to

>>3068877
Except for the fact that what people here consider "good aesthetic" is regression to the glossy sepia slop norm of every SDXL shitmix, whereas anima can consistently replicate artstyles.

watching retards that have no idea how anything works throw fits and get strung along by the obvious shitposter that wants to spread misinformation is always a weird experience.

>>3068857
https://files.catbox.moe/g15hnh.png

>>3068883
Which is not difficult to achieve on any model including this one, just pull a Cyberfix merging in some 3D or realism lora.

Not to mention AnimaYume already has more civit downloads than the base model.

>>3068870
they need to swap every so often to get the right feel in them

>>3068886
That's because base anima is also available on huggingface and you can save yourself the trouble of dealing with civitai's shitty servers and kneecapped download speed.

also, i just forgot silly me

>>3068869
mommy

>>3068877
>Illustrious looked like shit, didn't really became meta until wai became a thing.
lol
>Noob is the only one that was a thing as base since the point of noob was being more like a blank canvas you can mold.
are you retarded. noob was trained on illustrious. i'm genuinely convinced edg and hdg are just filled with retarded civitai jeets at this point

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>>3068866
What are you on about, this is AI generated, I doubt anybody would pay for this shit :D

>>3068860
lul sure

>>3068893
meant for >>3068879

>>3068892
I suggest you don't base your opinion of an entire general on the opinions of one or two posters.

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>>3068871
Yeah I'm still posting occasionally.
>Haven't stolen any of your mixes for a while (˶˃ω˂˶)
Probably won't see anything exciting, I've been mostly regurgitating same stuff

>>3068893
nta, loads of people pay for AI stuff. But it's all 50+ imageset dumps every few days, not individual requests.

I wouldn't mind setting up a commission thing, could be fun but no idea how/where to start.

>>3068877
>people just want to show they are using the most recent new stuff
Pure mind-reading. Just a sweeping claim about user motivation. Also "most recent new" is redundant

>aesthetically looks like shit (even if it shows promise)
Everything visual is, by definition, aesthetic. Saying aesthetically looks like shit is like saying "visually looks bad visually". It's meaningless. Just a catch-all to avoid naming actual flaws (details, color balance, style coherence, prompt response, etc.)

>Pony didn't really becamse meta until autism mix came out
>Illustrious didn't really became meta until wai became a thing.
Meta by what metric? You gathered evidence of this or it's just your personal impression? Implying causation (mix=meta) without proving it

>Noob is the only one that was a thing as base since the point of noob was being more like a blank canvas you can mold.
Wait, first it's about "aesthetics", now it's about design intent? blank canvas? That's not comparable

>looks like shit aesthetically even if the model is good at composing images
This implies composition is not part of aesthetics, which is just wrong. Composition is a core component of aesthetics

>It won't become a thing until some good mix comes out that gives aesthetic instant results
So basically, it won't take off until it matches your personal taste. We're all hyped to know when that will be. Let us know

Verdict: Anon is mimicking insider talk without doing any thinking. "Looks like shit" is a substitute for any actual falsifiable critique. Most likely, anon is extremely mentally retarded. Possibly suffering from recent head trauma. I would recommend a dark room with no sharp objects or exposed electric sockets, and something soothing like a strawberry milkshake. No screen time for a good, long while

>>3068900

>Meta by what metric?
Most amount of resources avaliable. You may like it or not, it may be your pick or not, but is easy to say which model is the meta at the moment. You just need to go and look which model people is doing stuff for.

>aesthetically looks like shit (even if it shows promise)
Anima is being valued by its comprehesion of natural language in mix with tags, not because the images are good looking.

>This implies composition is not part of aesthetics
If I want to make an image of a girl controlling magically a hairdryer and you try it on two different models, you can fine that one model understands the prompt better and perfectly places the hairdryer, but the image looks ugly as fuck, then you have an image with the other model where the girl looks good but the hairdryer is just someway floating around without proper aiming the girl or even worse, on the floor.

That's the point we are now. Eventually the day will come when the model that can put the hairdryer aiming at the girl properly will ALSO good look, but today is not that day yet

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>>3068855
Nr. 8, final for now, vanilla human Landsknecht

>>3068900
Verdict was shitpost, and you just gave it legitimacy when it could've stayed buried and forgotten

>>3068902
"ugly as fuck" is relative and leads into people assuming you mean AOM/WAI generic visuals
We should talk about specifics.

>>3068903
I love these character roster building things,
can you edit these into a lineup? I want to see how they scale beside eachother

>>3068902
>Most amount of resources avaliable
The only "resource" anima is missing compared to noob/illu is controlnet, which is mostly unnecessary since you can actually control what the model does through text conditioning alone.
>not because the images are good looking
I don't like it =/= bad looking

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>>3068907
like this

>>3068902
>but the image looks ugly as fuck
Yeah, again, what gets me is this subjective wording that you all use...
looks like dogshit,
looks like shit,
ugly as fuck...
And it makes me hesitant to reply because I think it's a troll post. It's vague and avoids committing to a falsifiable claim about the output images. Like, what? Weak color harmony? Oversaturated? Anatomy? Style coherence? Can you show us some side-by-side comparisons? Help us define your internal definition of what "good" looks like. Otherwise, this is all I hear: my magic button that draws bewbs is better than your magic button that draws bewbs

>>3068851
Requesting cleric bringing a delivery of milk to the necro's haunted castle. It's good for bone development...

>arguing with nogens

>>3068908
I think the biggest issue is when a new model comes out that is actually promising then people are hesitant about adopting it because they have to give up what they know to some extent. Anima is still new enough that people haven't fully figured out the optimal way to do things. I still struggle with what quality tags and negatives I want to use with it. There is also the fact that artist mixing is a bit harder on it. People also have to give up their lora collections and if they cannot train their own loras then it turns into a question of "Will anyone ever train this for anima?"
Anima is a very promising model that I'm having fun with, but I can also train my own loras so if I'm missing a style or character or concept then I can just make a lora for anima.

>>3068912
His argument is literally asking for gens, so I think you're on the same page.

>>3068909
you forgot vocaloid ia

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>>3068911

>>3068910
Ok, I think that's a fair point, sometimes to simplify things we rely on "subjectve wording"
If you want more specifics about what I mean by looking ugly is, the shapes look too basic, like tits being just circles, the perspective of the image being too frontal so the girl is looking at the camera all two shoulders perfectly alineated as if was a portrait on an status screen or a character sheet (which is perfectly fine if you are doing a character sheet but not if you are trying to make the girl appear sitting casually on a bed), the borders of the image look too sharp and even sketchy (despite not aiming for an sketchy style which would be also fine), the coloring of the face is different to the coloring of the rest of the body, like the face has a very clear "cell shading" that makes it look very anime while the rest of the body the shading looks more rounded and soft

>>3068918
Lol, okay, so it was a troll post. Godammit

>>3068918
That sounds like you're describing a specific image.

>>3068917
Yessssss

>>3068921
No, no, don't engage

>>3068925
Isn't Prinz Eugen always the bartender? not like there's a canon bar in Azur Lane, but every time I see her in an alternate outfit is behind the bar or something similar.

>>3068926
t bh I have no idea if Norca drinks either, haven't played it in like 7 years

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Two of these are WAI-Shuffle-Noob with V-Prediction. People said I was being unfair using v1 of Illustrious last time, so I switched to a popular NoobAI fine-tune instead. 2nd most downloads (after base NoobAI) and 4th most liked on Civit.

The other two are Anima Preview 3.

I pulled a random Danbooru post and trimmed it down to 150 tokens. Same positive and negative prompts across both models. Only difference is Anima uses @ for the artist tag (arikanrobo).

Ran a batch of 4 for each and picked the two I’d actually bother sending to upscale/edit.

I’ll post the full prompt later, but not rn since people tried to game it last time. I prompted for “heart-shaped pupils” as a hint. Neg was minimal: “worst quality, blurry background, extra arms.”

Neither of these looks like shit, so maybe the thread can drop the whole polarised “this vs that” bs

>>3068929
B and C are anima 3

>>3068929
Seems like it was already dropped, before you brought it back up? And won't this just look like you cherry-picked an artist that looks fine? I'm pretty sure you did.

The base model is always more creative and capable of a wider range of styles, anatomy, poses and compositions. If you like the /e/ usual, it obviously cannot compete with the likes of WAI and similar merges that layers 2.5D over most of the model's knowledge, biasing all four of those towards the lowest common denominator. My argument is that you can easily do this yourself, should you wish to >>3065363 >>3064900 and don't have to wait for someone to produce some magical merge.

>>3068929
only need to look at the eye to know B and C are anima.

>>3068929
>WAI
aaaand is shit

>>3068932
Right, because of the halved VAE compression it's like you're genning in 2K already.

>>3068929
>generic slop with melted details from shit VAE
>vs
>actually looks like the artist, has sharp and clear details
I honestly don't know how people are still doubting Anima at this point. It matches, if not exceeds, the anatomy and consistency of the most optimized SDXL shitmixes, while being a fucking BASE model. All the artist styles are preserved and unslopped, and the model has good variety and seed diversity. Models like base Noob don't fuck the styles but are absolute schizo compared to Anima.

>>3068935
It boils down to a lot of people just being used to the WAI style and the model being so limited by the incestuous mixing it went through that any kind of bullshit they write will produce something at least passable, while something like anima or base noob require you to experiment a little. Add the fact that you can't gen anima for free on a site like civitai and you get the hostility towards it.

>>3068931
No, dude, I was attempting to stop the dichotomy. I don't have a bias. Just comparing the model outputs for a random prompt
>won't this just look like you cherry-picked an artist that looks fine? I'm pretty sure you did.
No, I literally just grabbed the artist from my last opened workflow in Comfy. I don't expect anyone to judge these models' style coherence based on one artist alone. The artist tag was just to give the gens some flavor

>>3068938
They aren't running locally, so downloading a model does nothing for them.

>>3068939
yeah sorry i'm dumb and misread it

>grid comparing anima to base illustrious
>"Why comparing base anima to base pony and base illustrious? If we are discussing what's better right now you need to compare them in their current state, whatever that state is."
>grid comparing anima to noob fine-tune
>"The base model is always more creative and capable of a wider range of styles, anatomy, poses and compositions"
Lol the goalposts are nebulous phase shifting shadowforms at this point

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>>3068929
I mean the kind of artifacts NAI produces are distinctive, so you can tell anyway (>>3068930 is right).
Personally I've found that Anima is still quite awkward with hands. C is a good example of that.
Overall Anima is definitely promising but not a drop-in replacement for your typical 1girl gens yet.

>>3068857
>Can we have Haganai?
>no, we have Haganai at home
I'd probably watch it though.

I think the Anima fingers are awkward due to positioning, but I prefer their form. It's probably from the artist tag.
I think I've looked at too much AI and become desensitised to the usual shiny clay sausages that NAI is doing here

>>3068941
this is why you listen to your penis

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>>3068821
hard to be ecchi with race queens

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>>3068694
I tried, it doesn't work.
Now, technically Forge Neo runs it, and generates the image.
But aside of generating it at an incredibly slow pace it pretty much seems to ignore the prompt.

If you want to make a girl standing with blonde hair it will generate it. But it won't generate properly characters with 10k or even 15k entries in the boorus without you giving traits. It even struggles to obey you with basic things like making a"pink dress" pink, it will generate it in any color it wants.

It also seems to struggle with lot of basic concepts like mechanical arms or even "vest"

Now, then again we are talking about Forge Neo. It seems to work fine in comfy ui though, but in Neo it simply doesn't work properly.
And then again if you want to gen some random girl naked sunbathing will work, but beyond that seems non functional in neo when it comes to generating what you want.

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How is anima's mecha musume game?

>>3068953
what are the core tags? armored_gloves and armored_boots?