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> FAQ (check here first)
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> Local UIs
Forge Classic (easiest and simplest for SDXL): https://github.com/Haoming02/sd-webui-forge-classic
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>Useful Extensions/Custom Nodes
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Neapolitan from the last thread--kind of cheating, insomuch as idol Karin Nanase was a bit gyaru and a bit gothic lolita to start.
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what if homu wished for bigger boobs
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upgraded from destroyer to orbital sky fortress
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I demand hags who are pregnant. The kind of women who thought they were gonna die barren and with a bunch of cats happy that they're finally hosting the miracle of life
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yay healthcare
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Your request has activated my neurons.
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>>3069847
Posted this over a year ago, but it's worth posting again.
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So what's the best way to prompt Anima?
Everything in tags, then everything again in natural language?
The most important tags, then a lot of natural language?
Everything in tags, then niche/composition stuff in natural language?
And what type of natural language? Do I use the exact tags in the sentences, or completely avoid that via paraphrasing/synonyms?
You'd think that they'd take 5 minutes to give some guidance after going through all that trouble training it.
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would someone please be so kind to generate an image of her lifting up her skirt ? uwu
for example >>3066590 was good
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>>3069879
I'm just using tags, and if something doesn't work or doesn't have a tag or needs to be placed somewhere then I add a sentence or two at the end.
Best to experiment for yourself than to rely on the baker's idea of what's best, those people barely gen anything.
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Yeah that seems to be the way to go. It's just so weird, especially with them putting so much emphasis on the @ in the artist tags. That means how shit is phrased matters extremely.
I just don't want to do another 1000+ testimages. I was finally so happy with my greek shitmix setup, why is there always some new shiny thing tempting me
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If I'm commiting heresy, I should at least upscale.
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>>3069879
In my experience just tag, like always, and use natural words just to specify things you usually wouldn't be able to specify.
For example "slightly bent knees, slight forward lean, torso leaning forward a bit" instead of "bent over". Or "holding a gun with both hands" instead of "holding gun"
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>>3069905
Is this what you wanted, anon? Is this what you wanted?
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>>3069843
World Witches girls wearing a skimpy cheerleader like in the picrel
(clanker art is not mine, I saved this from /vg/)
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>>3069913
I only remember strike witches, lost track of the franchise, is Perrine or other old girl good enough?
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Different name for Strike Witches
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>>3069913
Its my connection or 4chan works like shit right now?
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Good day to everyone, wheee.
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>>3069938
Not that I know, never played the gacha. It was more like a conceptually question.If its a grown up character that is flat and want big boobs there is no much room.
But if is kind of a loli and ask for big boobs may be he meant the loli version with big tits or may be he meant a full grown up version
I guess Ill just make both
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>>3069942
Morning. Is afternoon here though
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>>3069913
Elizabeth isn't playing along unfortunately
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Forge Couple now works on Anima.
https://github.com/Haoming02/sd-forge-couple
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>https://litter.catbox.moe/dbj4dxetswcyt9q3.jpeg
>https://litter.catbox.moe/qlsgzvpzxjlfpkba.jpeg
>https://litter.catbox.moe/lmvz3666lyb36935.jpeg
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>>3069935
>Nice to see Red again.
Thanks.
>This one's very good, unlike the "curse" of most preggo gens where they look ready to pop any day now
Personally, I tend to like the "ready to pop" look.
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I tried to generate Pink using her new Anima model.
Looks like the model still needs some finetuning work.
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>>3069978
It's good that it understand natural prompts, that way is able to make things other models can't pull or can only pull by sheer coincidence.
But visually speaking looks like ass. We need to wait for the actual release and on top of that probably wait for some good looking mixes
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>>3069981
Couple is just an extension for Forge and was an easier way to do regional prompting compared to the regional prompting extension.
I am not quite sure what use it would have for anima considering we have far more control over positioning and who has what traits due to the model, but I am sure some people would still want it.
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>But visually speaking looks like ass. We need to wait for the actual release and on top of that probably wait for some good looking mixes
I hope you're not associating default art style with a model's capabilities.
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>>3069986
25-31
For at least a couple of them they want your seed bad enough that rape wouldn't be out of the question. And that's only false for another couple of them because they're too meek to do it.
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>>3069989
You're walking into a room mid-conversation without context, trying to correct people.
Yesterday, we were discussing this lora specifically and how to tag it.
I'm asking for the prompts because the character's design is off, to troubleshoot. Not because I want to recreate the picture.
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>>3069985
>But visually speaking looks like ass
People bash shitmixes, but the value of shitmixes is that it typically gives you a default style to work with, but when you are using a base model like this then you need to be using some kind of artist tags, quality tags or a lora because without those the style is going to vary greatly from gen to gen.
Loras have been the greatest stabilizers for me so far.
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>I am not quite sure what use it would have for anima considering we have far more control over positioning and who has what traits due to the model,
Really? I tried with "the girl in the left has X trait and the girl in the right has Y traits", but is still mixes them
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>>3069999
Like you I have a high tolerance for older oneesans, but in terms of iDOLM@STER, 31 is the ceiling (not counting the dudes)
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>>3070000
Yes, and?
We even know some of the civitai users names, and people post their lora on civitai
Fish788 posted a really nice anime style lora for anima just a few days ago for example.
People posts the same images here and there.
So...what exactly are you trying to point out?
Want another amazing shocking reveal? People in this very thread have github accounts or pixiv accounts or both!
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>>3069970
I have nothing against ready to pop, it's just that it's difficult to get anything in between, which makes that gen special all on it's own. You can kinda cheat it by using weights, but it's still very unreliable.
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>>3070008
Damn where did Perrine get those
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>>3069981
>now make Caster Wu flat
How about I make Abby busty instead?
>https://litter.catbox.moe/jtbjc26nixwu6otk.jpeg
>https://litter.catbox.moe/r6rd1dxgo5uvc05r.jpeg
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(It was a dream sequence)
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Requesting to "restore" pic related:
>https://litter.catbox.moe/2pjqmi.png
By "restore" I mean to either replicate, img2img or 'just' flat out prompt a similar pic to it. That said, if it is easire to just put Vocaloid IA in a (/e/-related) nurse outfit then go for it. If that's the case, here are other examples:
>https://litter.catbox.moe/mlf13d.png
>https://litter.catbox.moe/re0o7v.png
>https://litter.catbox.moe/4qo3jg.png
>https://litter.catbox.moe/hozby0.png
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>https://litter.catbox.moe/y8s9a4.png
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Liminal hospital setting optional but appreciated.
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>>3070023
I only pop in here once in awhile but I'm glad this avatarfag ridden shithole is infested with shitposters. It's the fate of many 4chan generals it seems like once trannies get involved and I'm thankful for that
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Well, I gave a try to Pink's Anima model and this one was the best of the bunch I tried to generate, lol.
Since genning with this model is quite pricey, I will wait a bit before using it full time, though. (Still, it's an interesting model I would like to explore.)
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>>3070014
That's it, I had enough.To the correction hut, NOW!
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>>3070028
I will stick to the usual Illustrious Pink model until I could secure a reliable source of Yellow Buzz, otherwise I will run dry before I could master the Anima model.
Also, what the heck is happening to 4chan today, the entire place runs slower than a Jello river lol.
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The capcha also takes a long time to load.
Well, that one could be a blessing in disguise lol.
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Correction? What's to correct? Abby was bound to go through a growth spurt eventually.
Francesca, on the other hand, wasn't exactly flat, but she wasn't busty either. Let's correct that.
>https://litter.catbox.moe/7920j1ne1v7daiir.jpeg
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tried my best
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>>3070033
you are castillacat?
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Yep. It's not a secret or anything, lol.
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The Takane's Secret fashion show
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I'm going to see her in concert next month... I'm going to die a happy man.
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>>3070037
Last one for now.
Normally I enjoy big tits, but dfc can be nice too sometimes.
Boudica in particular is cute regardless of boob size. Having them be bigger is just a bonus.
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Duuude. I don't know who tipped me so much Buzz (because Civitai do not let me see who did it) so I just want to say: thank you, Buzz Bro.
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Ah, now I can see the username. Thanks a lot, phoenician.
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Did some experimenting with black and white generation.
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I'm actually quite impressed at how well these are turning out. I guess when you eliminate the entire vector of color the AI can focus on details better.
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That's better, but man, we are not charging you for each word.
She is cute, so I'm willing to help, but understand that even if AI is almost magic is not magic. Anc random obscure characters can get some work.
I could perfectly do some img2img stuff or bake a lora with a few images picked up from the internet but would look like shit. I've seen she is from black desert. I don't have the game.
If you can record a short video of your character walking around her slowly and talking to her that would be helpful
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>>3070109
>I guess when you eliminate the entire vector of color the AI can focus on details better.
Sounds intuitive but these models don't have attention in that human sense. They process all channels simultaneously. What's more likely is training data bias. Sketches, manga, inked art, styles where detail is incoded in linework. When you prompt monochrome you're nudging the model towards specific styles that emphasise contrast and edges
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It's definitely not the prompt, and I tested with other artists as well (jesus christ how horrifying).
Maybe it's the workflow, anybody have one they can share? I'm using the one pink shared a few weeks back but i probably accidentally broke something.
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Anima gens take a lot of time to generate in comparation to xl.
I'm using "--cuda malloc" which should help, but it doesnt.
I'm using Forge Neo and I've been told this should happen, I've been told it should take the same or even less than XL models.
Any idea of how I can improve it? Is not that I have gpu to spare but I have good enough for SD (12 gb)
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>>3070148
did you gen over 255 images already? It has memory leak. Restart your UI
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>>3070148
You could've already posted your own box and I'd tell you what's wrong with it. With just a test gen replicating the issue, if you don't want to give up all your secrets. That's the best way to get help.
Here's what I get with @yabuki_kentarou https://litter.catbox.moe/8ya4bzp0p5lh1h5t.png in the simplest possible workflow.
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Most likely in one of your custom nodes, I've done probably a thousand in one session with no issues. Nothing's reported in the main Comfy repo either.
>>3070151
>I've been told it should take the same or even less than XL models
The model is smaller, but due to the VAE compressing things only half as much you're effectively generating at twice the resolution of SDXL. That's also why it gets eyes and other details right without hiresfix/inpaint/adetailer most of the time.
Mine generates at about 2/3rd the speed of SDXL.
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Reminder that Kentarou and Hasemi still owns us a Momo-Mikan-Rito threesome in the bath
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>>3070149
I don't think so, qwen_3_06b_base.safetenors right? Slightly modifying the original prompt of pink's image still gives something clearly not in the correct style.
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I tried preview 1 too to similar results
>>3070152
I didn't know that so thanks for the heads up, but unfortunately that wasn't the case either.
>>3070155
Thanks for that, was actually in the middle of uploading to catbox before you posted. It also made me realize an official anima example workflow exists and it works fine on both.
Problem solved - sorry pink, I'm going to assume it was an issue with your workflow.
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>>3070157
>10000 quality tags
>using underscores in artist name when that this is stripped
>random linebreaks
>not following the correct anima prompt order
lole
>"quality++" which i assume is some stabilizer lora (aka retard lora)
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skill issue
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>>3070157
Oh yeah, it's the underscores that was causing your issues. I learned through trial and error that the anima workflows i was using couldn't parse tags with underscores. Rem9ve them all and use spaces instead.
Also, PKanon is known for his charm and dedication, not his technical ability. I try to emulate his genuine enthusiasm, not his workflows.
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No artist tags involved, it's pretty much just
https://civitai.com/models/1170176/diving-illustrious-anime + https://civitai.com/models/1373588/ final-fantasy-akihiko-yoshida-style -artwork
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>>3070143
this is what I get with yabuki kentarou, I guess my prompt is fucked too or is okay dunno
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>>3070174
don't use any positive quality tags, only artists. regardless of anything, you should neg out ye-pop (photos) and deviantart (deviantart). i also add some extra stuff in there (worst quality, cosplay, sketch) as well as an artist negative (these work great for managing style but require some imagination and/or testing to actually use)
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>>3070181
Nta, I like using them for my own legibility. They MAY help in separating concepts so the tags bleed less into eachother, but that could just be placebo snakeoil. I use line breaks when prompting for multiple characters and seperate them with double line breaks.
Linebreaks also matter in the custom combinatorial prompt node i use, but i think I'm the only one here that fucks with it.
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>>3069843
Requesting Isane wearing nothing but a flower lei
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>>3070190
Nta, I also copy/paste tags off danbo and keep the underscores. Removing them does change prompt comprehension on waiIllu but i often prefer those results. Tags with underscores feel more "specific" and a little less likely to cross contaminate, but that could just be placebo.
Anima does NOT like underscores at all though. Gotta remove them shits every time on anima.
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>trained a lora on a low-post count artist I like
>realize that v3 already knows them after the fact
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Anon-kun detective for hire
>It had been a lousy day, and now I was soaked—drenched to the bone, wet as silk sheets after a long, restless night—but the job wasn’t done. There was still work to do, and like it or not, I was the only one who could see it through
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>>3070214
https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/wiki/Features# prompt-editing
First two artists are for composition/anatomy and provide a "base" for shading, they get switched out for the third one for the overall "feel" of the picture. It's not an exact science, but it's the most reliable way to artist mix on anima.
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it's finally spring
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Heard about the new Avatar movie leak. Ive only seen a few clips so far, but adult Toph is giving me thoughts.
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Repost but does this count?
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>>3070248
>Civitai down
They're transitioning to civitai.red so that their .com site can get back into the good graces of cc companies while .red can handle crypto and nsfw. Will probably be pretty rough for about a week.
>4chan working worse by the minute
>>3070252
>catbox is shitting itself too
Is that a cloudflare issue? Ive been having issues across most sites I visit. Guess the internet's infrastructure is finally collapsing.
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>>3070048
Anyway, have a busty Nitocris.
>https://litter.catbox.moe/hlsn72o6xnamw8nx.jpeg
>https://litter.catbox.moe/025erd29kbfxb5cl.jpeg
>https://litter.catbox.moe/1mqde0ekxmc6qvqe.jpeg
>https://litter.catbox.moe/auc4m1onnoo5pf9w.jpeg
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>>3070261
And Shuten Doji
>https://litter.catbox.moe/x2eeyq26f7qoe56n.jpeg
>https://litter.catbox.moe/jfhh8d7di9422vcu.jpeg
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>>3070261
Catbox had to stop anonymous uploads because of AI agents using it for storage and rapidly filling several HDDs with junk. Now the owner seems to have managed to blacklist most of them so you can upload files again without logging in.
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>pov: it's 2021
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>>3070269
Nice.
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>>3070381
Bro, every time that Civitai's staff make a big, fat annoucement bout how the community is going to evolve and take a next step into the future and stuff, the entire place crashes down.
Some day they will learn to stop tempting fate like that.
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>>3070157
my poor workflow got quite the bashing...
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I am posting an image. It will work.
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>>3070388
wait so
unless the creator says it can't be used for nsfw, it automatically goes to the red site.
so you have to do a search on both sites? in case the creator hasn't checked that box.
like, the regulator site won't tell you that the search results are behind the red door.
nah man.
this won't work. they are fucking the creators
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>>3070226
Let's have some more Avatar.
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>>3070388
wait so
unless the creator says it can't be used for nsfw, it automatically goes to the red site.
so you have to do a search on both sites? in case the creator hasn't checked that box.
like, the regular site won't tell you that the search results are behind the red door. you have to go look, just in case.
nah man.
this won't work. they are fucking the creators
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The entire thing is kind of hilarious. Civitai is making red because they're hoping to be sly in that by keeping the NSFW stuff behind a "different" site that the main site can do payments through credit cards, but the entire site is pretty much NSFW and I would say a good bulk of their users aren't going to understand why they suddenly cannot find anything NSFW.
The whole thing will also bite Civitai in the ass at some point because their method isn't as sly as they think and CC companies are just absolute assholes at this point.
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From what I can understand, the entire red, blue and green stuff is just civitai's attempt to distance itself from it's pornography oriented reputation, so the site could do business with credit card companies and keep the place afloat.
But yeah, what they are doing is basically just a dumb attempt to create a loophole and that never end up working as expected. Personally I cannot buy a membership or yellow Buzz because that can only be done using Crypto currency, which is not supported where I live.
I can understand why Civitai has to do all of this silly dance, but I don't have to agree with them or like the dumb, clumsy way as they do it.
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Cleavage now counts as R-rated, and if you publish a character LoRA with a low neckline showing in the preview (because that's her signature outfit), it's automatically sent to the red site....and not visible on the regular site. And no option or warning given to post a SFW version..
Meanwhile, you can post a Bob Parr LoRA with him in his superhero suit, and it goes to the regular site....BUT..if you enter the model number on .red, you also get to see the red version: Bob's giant fucking cock on the floor, and all the other depraved shit that make 95% of posts on any cartoon character model page.
HUH??
Okay.
Bad strategy guys.
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Remember to thank your local conservative for their puritanical bullshit.
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>>3069843
I would love to see:
Manga/anime characters showing their pussy in a way fitting their personality
For example:
-Misaka Mikoto looking very tsundere with her skirt lifted and hee beige shorts fly open with just a littlw bit of pussy peek.
-Yuki Nagato expressionless with her panties lowered
-Nagatoro looking very smug but blushing lifting hwt skirt showing she isnt wearing panties
Just take a character you like and think how she would show her pussy
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>>3069843
I would love to see:
Existing manga/anime characters showing their pussy in a way fitting their personality
For example:
-Misaka Mikoto looking very tsundere with her skirt lifted and hee beige shorts fly open with just a littlw bit of pussy peek.
-Yuki Nagato expressionless with her panties lowered
-Nagatoro looking very smug but blushing lifting hwt skirt showing she isnt wearing panties
Just take a character you like and think how she would show her pussy
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Sorry for the triple post, the site was acting up again.
Pink's new Anima model is looking great so far, my only "but" is that sometimes she gets some curly hair, but that's it.
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>>3070423
It's just a matter of time until I learn to use this new model lol.
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Couldn't quite get them to touch, but here.
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Oh, her drill sidelocks are fine. The problem is that she randomly gets full drill hair, period.
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Pink escapes from a possible Queen Bee studio ova revival.
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Images don't need to have pussy and b-hole visible to be /e/.
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>>3070444
I gave it a whirl, but the prompting tells you its though process and it hard blocks anything it things is NSFW... plus you have a finite number of generations unless you sub. And I mean permanently finite. Mio 1.0 you had 10 prompts a day. They don't refresh on 2.0.
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>>3070430
You can prompt for "drill sidelocks" instead of "drill hair, sidelocks". Or just "sidelocks": the LoRA should know that Pink's sidelocks are drill. You can also try "wavy hair" to reinforce the rest of the hair style.
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>>3070470
Does seem weirdly consistent at first glance. But it's just the same narrowing of concepts you see from merged models, the price of "stabilization and quality". You get the same thing with other environments, coffee shops, city parks, dark alleys, forest shrines, etc. A base model will give you more variety, but there's a chance some of those could be weird or nonsensical. Quality tags also cause the same narrowing, to a lesser degree. batch9 example https://litter.catbox.moe/mpmerf82kmzokq37.png
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Use whatever the training dataset was tagged with, for best results. If you can't talk to the baker and he didn't specify in the description or in trigger tags, then just open lora file with a text editor. Metadata shows tag frequency, as well as dataset size, training settings, etc.
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>>3070473
Yep. Baker here. The dataset was tagged with "sidelocks, drill hair".
When prompting, this can cause Anima to apply drill curls to the main hair (about 10% of gens).
It's an easy reliable fix: just prompt drill sidelocks instead. I updated the trigger tags on the model page.
I wasn’t aware at the time that drill sidelocks is a recognised Danbooru tag (it has 8k entries), but I'll revise it in the next version. Although for now, it's a very simple prompting fix.
Training this LoRA has been a nice learning experience so I'm grateful to PK Anon for the incentive
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>I wasn’t aware at the time that drill sidelocks is a recognised Danbooru tag (it has 8k entries)
did you really manually tag everything? an autotagger with like eva or swin even wouldn't have missed that tag. and manually editing the tags after the fact would have been way faster and more accurate
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No, I didn't manually tag everything. I'm not sure where the misunderstanding came from. I ran an autotagger and made necessary edits afterwards. The tagger picked up "drill hair" but missed "drill sidelocks". Which is what led me to ignore that a Danbooru tag exists for that
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>>3068925
How did you get this style? My biggest problem with AI art is that it tends to look generic, so I'd love to generate something like this as well.
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maybe anima needs more time in the oven, at least for my purposes
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>>3070421
Dozo. This is a simple concept but really like it
>>3070494
Aside of Takehito I'd say there is something more added to the mix.
In another subjet, may be I'm doing something wrong but is anima unable to inpaint? Is not that it doesn't work at all, it seems to do something but seems to ignore the prompt entirely.
Like you usually in xl just mask the face, change the prompt, for example giviing a different expression and bam, done, it changes the same according to it. Even with the same seed it changes the face according to the prompt. And even more if you change the seed.
On anima it seems if you try to inpaint, even if you change the prompt to change the expression, the inpaint changes the face a bit, like may be the shape of the eyes or the corner of the mouth a bit, so its doing something, but doesn't really change much, even changing the prompt entirely and even with different seed is still almost exactly the same face. It can't do anything basic like giving a blush.
And if you go to the sketch and sketch something and inpaint the sketch in anima, it does not "redraw" that sketch it just put the sketch pretty much as it is. For example usually in XL if you draw a pink line and inpaint it with "smile" on the prompt it becomes a proper mouth, but in Anima if you draw a pink line and inpaint it with "smile" on the prompt it generates an image with a pink line, it just soften the borders a bit.
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Nanameda Kei. More like his disciple, not really afaik but he clearly took a lot of inspiration. He does art for pretty much all Compile Heart games now except for their flagship Neptunia franchise.
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/1247541
Eventually got into other styles too, with some nice soft shading that's uncommon for these sorts of styles. https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/3414195 The model sort of averages them out into a middle ground unless you add a franchise tag.
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I don't have any experience with NAI past v3, not sure I can be of any help. Used to be if you added too many quality tags or quality negatives it would push your styles towards some generic middle ground, same as what happens on local and/or with merged checkpoints.
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>>3070494
I agree that most styles posted are a bit stale. If you don't count the bias towards 2.5D masterpiece best quality, then especially on the anatomical side. Although that probably comes from the same model bias. I don't mean anything crazy, plenty of normal and even mainstream styles have unusual proportions, either dipping into chibi or exaggerating some feature or quirk in order to look a bit different.
I'm just not clear on how much of that style preference is intentional, and how much is perhaps an inability to do different things. Like that anon mentioned.
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For all intense purposes, Anima is more for making aesthetic gens out of the box, not really built for inpainting like XL is. You’re expecting it to behave the same but different models have different “rules,” that’s just common sense atp.
Also if it’s not following your prompt, it usually means the model already “decided” the face and won’t override it, especially with the same seed. That’s why people say don’t rely on inpainting with anime models.
Try lowering steps to like 15, because too many steps “locks in” the face early so it won’t change. Think of it like how much memory you are spending on the face
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>>3070470
It's a well known fact that Japan has only a single onsen so all anime companies rent the place for their school trips and fanservice scenes, lol.
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That fixed it, thanks.
>>3070476
No bro, I'm the one who's grateful. Seriously, thanks a lot.
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>I'd like to point out that all of this is incorrect. Not sure how you managed to keep piling it on.
Lol okay but I’ve literally been using AI since 2021, so I have know what I'm talking about. Just because you disagree doesn’t make it “incorrect.”
If Anima isn’t inpainting properly, that’s a known limitation, whether you’ve noticed it or not. Not my fault if you haven’t run into it yet.
>>3070512
>started with a grammar error
There are two spellings: aesthetic or esthetic. Esthetic is actually the simplified American version. I know nobody expects AI artists to be literate, but Google is free, buddy. Look up the words before you speak
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>>3070501
>Forge he could be using the wrong TE again,
I checked because happenned a few time in the last days since I keep swapping between xl and anima and sometimes I simply forget, But Is not the case I think
Here is the original and inpainted versions:
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>>3070513
I'm confused how Castilla's full body gens of Pink with her ass hanging out are classed as PG-13, yet the model cover page of just her face with cleavage barely showing is red R-rated.
I guess nobody will be using the Pink model for SFW, but it would be nice to have some visibility on the .com site, at least in search results
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>>3070522
Just to clarify, in the end I gone with that version, but I also tried completely removing the prompt and using a simple one XL style, and still dind't change much the face.
So I know its not the prompt because changing it entirely even the style (I swapped to tag only) didn't do anything either
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>>3070526
Nah, misspelling is as American as apple pie, specially in 2026. Have you seen how zoomers talk with each other? it doesn't make sense and it takes extra effort to understand what the fuck they're talking about, they've failed at language.
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>In another subjet, may be I'm doing something wrong but is anima unable to inpaint? Is not that it doesn't work at all, it seems to do something but seems to ignore the prompt entirely.
I just inpainted with it and it was awesome.
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>cleavage
That's your answer, bro. Anything that shows as much a hint of a breast is automatically tagged as R-rated to trigger the Yellow Buzz deduction.
Before of the Blue/Yellow Buzz change, my Pink gens where she was doing just mundane things while wearing her normal outfit- or even her normal bikini used to be rated as PG 13, but nowadays even my Easter themed Meowth gens (where he was just carrying easter eggs and not doing or looking like anything even remotely sexual) triggered the Yellow Buzz tagger, lol.
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>>3070521
>If Anima isn’t inpainting properly, that’s a known limitation
Known to whom? Because the architecture it was built on isn't less suited to inpainting than SDXL is and you can inpaint using it just fine. The only difference I noticed is that it usually takes a little more denoise than SDXL to change stuff.
>>3070526
An ESL is unlikely to make that kind of spelling mistake, because usually we read English far more than we speak it. So that kind of mixup based on pronunciation is rare.
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>>3070534
On the other hand, this cat lady here?
The model creator and the users are boned because she is always going to be R rated no matter what, booo.
Oh, and my gens where Pink is showing her butt might be rated as PG 13 but the site still charged Yellow Buzz for their generation, so I'm guessing the tag bot is just wonky and unrelaible as heck.
Still, it's a true pity that your model will not get the exposure it deserves, but again, it's based on a porno character so that's that.
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0.2 denoise is very low, especially when you're trying to change colors with those blush stickers. I would either go way higher or better pre-draw some red blobs in there. Here's my tests with only adjusting denoise:
0.35 https://litter.catbox.moe/jed2y64i68lhe40m.png
0.65 https://litter.catbox.moe/3fitxymexr2jvr65.png
0.65 with a smaller mask https://litter.catbox.moe/c94yyx0em8c5cozi.png
I assume that blush is all you wanted out of the inpaint.
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>it usually takes a little more denoise than SDXL to change stuff
This, similar to the difference between samplers. DPM line is able to change much more than the Eulers at the same denoise level. I imagine if someone switched both their model and sampler/scheduler combo at the same time (because anime docs recommend it) it would be a huge difference.
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I like Anime, but I only manage to get these insane giga-hips- Does anybody know how to get a more realistic female body on anime, preferably with sagging breasts?
What I had on Illu:
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Where I'm at with Anima:
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>catbox is dying
Ah, ty.
What I had on Illu:
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>>3070554
Man, they are trying to squeeze out every penny they can from their users.
Oh well.
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Back then this pic was tagged as PG 13, lol.
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>>3070564
If anything, I like how Anima handles light.
>>3070563
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>find random artist with 50 or so hits on gelbooru
>already works on anima
it's almost too easy now
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>>3070553
Didn't feel like downloading those loras, so my starting point is this https://litter.catbox.moe/xlp67mdm1kz7nnn1.png
I get the goal is to minimize her waist to top ratio? Played around with a whole bunch of tags, in the end just adding "skinny" did the most https://litter.catbox.moe/79iod9z28m9fmihq.png
You can throw out most of those negs too, as long as any one of fat, chubby, plump, etc is in there the others do nothing.
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>>3070518
I completely forgot that existed. Guess I'm due for a rematch. Thanks.
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Maybe something more like The Road?
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>>3070576
>Search for resort boin in danbooru
>almost zero results
>try it on Anima
>it works, pic related
>it has over 600 results on gelbooru
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>>3070491
Then I'd like suggestions of artists with extreme styles. Studio Gainax style is pretty much best I know, and even then it's a coin toss between chibi and their actually sharp and cool style.
>>3070494
Isn't Disgaea a series?
>>3070495
>yours looks less generic than his
That's exactly the problem.
>>3070499
The new versions are astonishingly good, especially if you want a picture of a specific topic. But, I don't know much about anime terminology, so while things like "slim, slender, narrow waist" and "gigantic breasts, round breasts, breast implants" work for the body, I still don't know the tags for more sharp and cartoonish styles.
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>>3070577
@kanji \(nievart\) with asanagi scheduled at the end. otherwise his faces come out a bit too western, which is annoying given his newer art's faces aren't like that. might still train a lora out of curiosity
>>3070580
lmao no. when you got to around/below 50 artist tags it was always hit or miss, and even then, you were limited by noob's older dataset. anima even at preview 3 knows so many styles well enough that i don't even feel the need to train a lora more often than not. the not dogshit vae goes a long way with details
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>https://huggingface.co/circlestone-labs/Anima#prompting
>When using a tag that is different between Danbooru and Gelbooru, prefer the Gelbooru version.
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>>3070586
He did mention for tags that are different you should prefer the gelbooru one. Main advantage is gel doesn't prune copyrighted stuff as aggressively, Taimanin RPGX for example is 1K to 13K because of all the game CGs.
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>>3070571
I even prompted "white tiger print cat collar" and it still sometimes came out like that. I also added "face marks, face stripes" and "face tattoos" to the negs because sometimes Pink came out with tiger strips on her face.
Well, this is precisely what a model's testing stage is for, lol.
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>>3070452
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>>3070619
kek. if i wasn't lazy i'd do an img2img gen of that doodle as a response
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>>3070588
>I still don't know the tags for more sharp and cartoonish styles.
Most of it comes from artists, not generic concept tags. Or from mixing several of them together.
>Isn't Disgaea a series?
Surely he meant the series' artist, Harada Takehito.
>suggestions of artists with extreme styles
I have some chibi-adjacent ones: minimilieu, porforever, rariatto_\(ganguri\), tsunamayo, setz, hakika, zyugoya, op na yarou
That's all just for one kind of look. What it comes down to is, whenever you see a cool pic online, either save the artist's name if he's on booru or save the pic itself to use with vibe transfer.
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>>3070594
Meant waist to hip, obviously. Anima seems to take on more of the artists' anatomical quirks, so there's probably a limit to what you can to without changing the style. Could also try a concept lora. This kind of inflatable tubeman body is usually favored by pedos not hagfags, but perhaps it would work interchangeably.
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>>3070540
Those examples show exactly what I was talking about, at 0.2 denoise with XL would already add them without having to sketch a couple of pink dots.
But with anima you need to add them and even increase the denoise. For reference I inpainted the face at 0.2 with an XL model and got them without issues
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>>3070650
Waianima honestly isn't bad. The personal issue I had with Wai is that anatomy was so overcooked that you couldn't influence it with artists or loras, but WaiAnima doesn't seem that overcooked yet, plus it gives you just a basic style to hash out prompts on without it being influenced by artist tags or loras.
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swapped to arch(btw) because poop_OS killed itself while updating, decide to finally use one of the new versions of forge instead of illyasviels ancient UI since im gonna have to use pyenv anyway
>it includes no DDPM scheduler
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>>3070642
https://mega.nz/folder/ctl1FYoK#BYlpywutnH4psbEcxsbLLg
they're my loras but i haven't uploaded those specific ones yet. i'll tag you when i get around to it. afaik anima knows akkgsyk pretty well at least. that plus
>(oekaki:1.4), (flat color, aliasing, pixelated, dithering:1.2)
will get you pretty close without luxsumildo
>>3070653
it's a worthless shitmix. it's literally the exact same as slapping any lora on to stabilize the model. you might as well just use the highres lora at that point
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>>3070653
Whatever works, only the end result matters.
>it gives you just a basic style to hash out prompts on without it being influenced by artist tags
Though you are keeping around what's effectively a 5GB style lora when you could instead apply one yourself on-demand, or apply one that fits whatever style you're going for better than WAI's style bias does. The last part is important, especially with people who don't know better and will end up using the merge as their default checkpoint.
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>>3070659
Thank you, I'll check those loras out. Gotta be that asshole and ask for a catbox for that image too, looks great.
Also, I would kill for a good otochichi lora- think that's something you would consider?
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>>3070666
https://files.catbox.moe/e5cg2t.png
>Also, I would kill for a good otochichi lora- think that's something you would consider?
sorry but probably not. already have quite a backlog and that artist isn't really up my alley. either way he has around 200 tags so it should get his style pretty well, albeit probably not perfectly
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>>3070510
[@envenomist \(gengoroumaru\)|@aoin|@kase daiki:0.02]
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>>3070628
>prompted "white tiger print cat collar"
That won’t work as expected because it’s not a recognised Danbooru tag and wasn’t part of the training. Break it down into simpler tags: animal collar, white collar, print collar. That gives the category, base colour, and design.
>sometimes Pink came out with tiger strips on her face.
Probably the Anima base overgeneralising the “tiger pattern” concept and applying it to skin. This error can be worse if you also prompted for "tiger stripes, black stripes". If negs fix it, then the model is behaving fine and is still usable. You wanna use "facial mark" in that case, that's the tag.
It's meant to balance flexibility with Pink's identity, so it responds well to what you include and what you omit. Remember it's Anima so you can also use natural language to refine things
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>>3070686
>That won’t work as expected because it’s not a recognised Danbooru tag and wasn’t part of the training
dumb
the TE is an LLM, it can absolutely understand things that aren't booru tags
why do you post bullshit while sounding so confident
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>>3070689
>why do you post bullshit while sounding so confident
first time here?
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>To be fair you're also just assuming the TE will understand it
no it's pretty fucking obvious qwen can interpret that. not that it's the optimal way to prompt it, but you're underestimating the llm
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why some people seems to believe that picking models is some sort of war and you need to pick a side?
You can...you know, swap models at any given time until you find whatever you feel confortable with or even use different models for different things.
You can also point out the good and the bad of each model, that doesn't mean when you point the bad of a model you are siding with the competition or vice versa.
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Hey guy(s), you ok?
>not that it's the optimal way to prompt it
That’s the point I was making. Notice I said it won't work as expected, yeah? It’s not that the model can’t interpret longer phrases, but it’s less reliable when the phrasing doesn’t match how the LoRA was trained.
This LoRA was tagged using Danbooru-style labels, so prompting with those same tags gives the most consistent results. I’m just recommending the most reliable approach based on how the LoRA was trained and tested.
I'm glad I could clear up the misunderstanding.
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>>3070581
I'm trying to think of a fourth image to finish off her character arc. Ideas?
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>Pregnant housewife
>Apocalypse happens
>Starts to give into despair
>Decides to live for her unborn child's sake
>Gradually but quickly toughens up
>Becomes certified badass
>>3070775
Seemed to be the most obvious, and post-partum is the one I'll most likely do, but I wanted a few other ideas that I might not have considered.
>>3070778
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>>3070764
>Hey guy(s), you ok?
why take it personally? i'm correcting you because when you say
>That won’t work as expected because it’s not a recognised Danbooru tag
that is flat out wrong. besides, the way you described it is not even how i'd prompt for that to being with
>she is wearing a black and white tiger print collar
would be how i'd prompt for something specific like that to begin with
>This LoRA was tagged using Danbooru-style labels, so prompting with those same tags gives the most consistent results
your lora does not train the text encoder. if it's fried to the point that it completely erases concepts from the model, then it's badly trained. either way, other anon was right that you were confidently saying bullshit
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>>3070710
>why some people seems to believe that picking models is some sort of war and you need to pick a side?
Because autists literally cannot stop themselves from trying to correct other people when they do things that the autist perceives as "wrong".
It's the same reason why autist people cannot ever shut up once they start misbehaving afyer the other guy says "no" to them.
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>Pregnant housewife
>Apocalypse happens
>Starts to give into despair
>Decides to live for her unborn child's sake
>Gradually but quickly toughens up
>Becomes certified badass
The spawn of time seems a bit far fetched. May be should start with an small belly and growing up instead of fully pregnant right after the apocalypse happens
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>>3070784
It does seem a little far-fetched, but I would like to keep her visibly pregnant from the beginning. Maybe instead of starting off completely helpless, she might have worked in an environment that made her already used to high-stress situations like ER. Maybe her dead husband might have had previous survivalist experience that he might have casually taught to her.
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>>3070554
This pic was rated as plain PG.
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>>3070781
>why take it personally?
>it's fried
>badly trained
>confidently saying bullshit
All this bait looks so delicious, but I couldn't possibly bite. I wanna be bikini body ready for summer.
You’re arguing past the point. I was talking about consistency with this LoRA, not whether a text encoder can parse a sentence.
You should stick with whatever approach works best for you.
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>You’re arguing past the point. I was talking about consistency with this LoRA, not whether a text encoder can parse a sentence.
yes and your lora is not removing its ability to interpret what a black and white collar with tiger stripes is unless it's fried (which for the record i didn't even say it is--i said that's the explanation if that's the case). i can't imagine being this bitchy and after being called out for saying something blatantly correct. the other anon said the word "dumb" and now you're just losing your shit. "bait" lol grow up dude
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>>3070124
Reminds me of an oldie I did, but I like yours better.
>https://litter.catbox.moe/5wct6stji82t5m2n.jpeg
>https://litter.catbox.moe/r3tddvnflklzjav2.jpeg
>https://litter.catbox.moe/5v8gkcupp3dsx8dh.jpeg
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Okay, I think I'm getting closer. Good night for now, dear compadr/e/s.
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>>3070883
This is the ecchi board and the main subject is ecchi images.
Its always been considered acceptable even welcome some discussion related to the subject of the thread. For example, talking about to love ru in a to love ru thread or on a ecchi manga thread.
But if what you want is focus the discussion on the subject, then you should bring the discussion to the most apropiate board.
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>>3070883
That's what happens when you foster a community of babies who get upset when someone disagrees with them. Keep in mind this is the same place that resisted adopting Anima and before that Noob and even before that Illustrious. You have to understand the lowest common denominator of idiots in this hobby are the average posters in this general.
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>>3070879
rebecca box? nice
>>3070891
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>>3070895
it should be fucking obvious to anyone that's spent more than a day here but tiled upscaling isn’t even model-dependent. it’s sampler and denoise related.
you need to drop denoise to like 0.1 or it will hallucinate each tile, that’s why it looks like slop. make sure you’re using euler A, because other samplers don’t respect tile boundaries properly and are meant exclusively for first pass generations.
anima doesn't randomly produce slop without user error on your part you moron.
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>>3070896
I am running the latest base version of Anima 3. The UI is called WebUI, it opens in my Opera browser. I downloaded someone's png and it gave me the settings but when I use my own prompts it looks slippy af. Appreciate any help
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>>3070903
>reeeeeeeee
ok and? just because you got it to work once doesnt mean its correct, lol.
0.5 denoise is literally repainting the image, like by definition, so of course its gonna fall apart you just cherry picked your boxes.
you retards always think one example proves a rule and then you repeat bs with confidence. its basic statistics ffs
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>but when I use my own prompts it looks slippy af
If it works fine with the image's original prompt then it's not a technical issue, and not related to tiled upscaling. You're just using a weird prompt. Which you didn't share, so again we're just guessing.
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>The ability to prompt whatever you want in the style of any artist you want with limitless imagination
>Spend upwards of a year (probably longer) doing nothing but posting in a singular style across multiple generals to cultivate a persona on an anonymous imageboard for parasocial relatonships
What causes this? Reminder that this place is in state it is in because of people like this and IA Schizo. Now seethe at someone saying the truth
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>>3070917
Different people liking different things?
I for example I'm not a big "artist" fan. I like some artists like everyone and once in a while I like to make some stuff in a certain artist style. But what I love and make most part of the time is "anime coloring" when I saw a girl from a game or a figurine what I think is "I would like to see her as if she was an anime" or anime promotional art at least (like megami).
So I'm no one to judge someone that sticks to one artist (or a particular mix) forever. If that's what he enjoys doing and posting as long as he is having fun.
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>>3070921
Good for you anon, but it's obvious what their intent is and it's not just "because they like the style." They make sure to post in the same style constantly because it's the closest they can get to being a tripfag/avatarfag without being outright called one. Want to know what a shithole looks like after these people take root? Look no further than the state of faggotry of the /b/ threads. They want to turn every general into their personal discord clique.
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>>3070920
Depending what you want to do.
It's really good at understanding text, so you can combine text with tags to get what you want lot more easily.
The downside is that is a base model that is not finished so even if it can draw what you want, making it look good may take quite a bit trial and error until you find the right mix.
Also, regional prompter doesn't work. It has a very good natural understanding, as in if you say "on the right side X on the left side Y" it will understand and separate characters well without any extension, but for some things it seems to struggle a bit and I think regional prompter would be better for those things
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Yes, and?
To get one of those styles you are mentioning you use styles or series names or time periods (or use lora of those things)
You don't mix artists.
For example you may like Danmachi series anime style, in that case you prompt for the series, not the artist of the novels (haimura kiyotaka),
If you want something in the style of Prison School anime you use the name of the series, not the mangaka, etc.
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>>3070920
Yeah. I went all in a few days ago and haven't touched my older models since. You have way more exact control over things which leads to the ability to just write out specific things that you want which means things like outfits can be far more precise. You also have far more control over positioning. The VAE also being 16ch means that smaller things come out with far better detail as well.
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Hey /edg/,
You do realise this general is basically the bane of /e/, right? It is barely tolerated. I have to shield my eyes every time I scroll past it on the front page. Look at any other thread on /e/, what’s the first thing you see? “NO SLOP.”
Ironically, you're tearing apart each other's posts when they all blur together anyway. None of these hyperreal, incestuous, endlessly iterated AI styles even resembles the anime that once inspired them.
I opened this thread this morning, hoping to find maybe one gem that could redeem its existence, and I see a cesspit of bickering and infighting. Instead of owning your shared outsider status, you have turned on each other. A box of autistic rats left in a closet, slowly devouring one another. You really are the saddest, loneliest sacks of shit on the internet.
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yeah it's good
she will laugh at you if you refuse to try it
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