Fullcount 1101. Yes or no?

If I want to speed up the process of softening the fabric of my new raws but I’m also concerned about indigo loss (I don’t want high-contrast fades too soon) am I better off walking miles in them or taking a bath with them? In other words, should I give priority to usage or to the powers of handwashing?

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>>18676514
Can someone with anti-polyesther autism tell me if samurai undyed white jeans are 100% cotton? I know their regular jeans are but it doesn't say on the undyed ones.
Also same question for the socks, are they 100% cotton?

Are there any good options for unwashed, unsanforized denim besides STF 501s?

>>18676587
Yes it’s 100% cotton for both.

>>18676638
Do you own some? They good?

>>18676661
Don’t own any. Just googled it for you since you couldn’t ;<). But I don’t doubt they’re good

>>18676667
Yeah, it doesn’t say so on Samurais website so if you don’t actually have any insight you information is fucking worthless

>>18676539
If you don't want high contrast you just need to wash them more and they'll fade more evenly. If the goal is to keep them looking dark and new for as long as possible you'll need to use woolite dark or some meme denim detergent.

>>18676671
They’re sold on plenty of websites

>>18676539
>(I don’t want high-contrast fades too soon)
You can't really hasten the break-in period and also end up with high-contrast fades later unless you're getting a pair of extremely tight or heavy jeans. The stiffness of raw jeans helps them fold and crease at specific lines which is what creates highs and lows where indigo loss happens more and less respectively. If they're tight and/or heavy the fabric is forced to do that regardless of the rawness.
Just commit to either doing a high contrast fade or a more even fade with a new pair.

>>18676535
Yes

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>>18676535
Are they always this embarassingly low-rise or are there different versions available of them?

>>18676514
DAMN that's a big butt

>>18676858
yeah it’s intended for placing your face in it

>>18676807
Okay got the black and gray version. Hope it fits. 25% off on cultizm
>>18676857
12”

>>18676700
>>18676730
The fabric is not molding to my body. In particular there is too room in the butt. That’s also why I thought of bathing with them on. Though I’m not sure, cause I hadn’t these problems with previous raws. Should I just keep working, sitting and walking with them?

>>18676872
*too much room

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I got this Levi's Staprest jackets for five eurobucks. Label says it was made in 99'. It's 60-40 cotton polyester. The fabric feels thick and stiff and the color is quite nice (couldn't get the exact shade on camera). Was mostly an impulse buy due to the price, honestly. Has some velcros inside that attach to nothing.
I guess I'll give it a shot, try it with a couple of fits to see if I can make it work and either keep it or flip it.

>>18676955
>60-40 cotton polyester
wouldn't take that trash for free

>>18676858
it kinda looks fake

>>18676872
Unless they were sold as unsanforized or shrink to fit the bathing won't do much. You could wash them in really hot water to shrink them. That's a bit of a gamble of course since you can get them well below your size and then have to figure out how to stretch them out just to be able to put them on. Once you can do that then they'll begin stretching out to conform to your body.

The truth is that the jeans probably just don't fit you very well because of the brands cut not matching your body shape, and never will.

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>>18676535
I have such mixed feelings about this cut. If you size up once, it looks like a perfect straight cut, but they have this weird amount of restriction in the crotch area that I don't understand. I wear a size 34 in Sugarcane 1947 which fits me perfectly and I went with a size 35 in the Fullcount 1101 to give a near exact leg dimension as my sugarcanes. The two different jeans look almost exactly the same in terms of silhouette. The top block of the 1101 does not fit too loose or too tight, but I couldn't lift my legs without feeling tightness and tension in the crotch. I sold them and went with the 0105 cut instead which is infinitely better as long as you enjoy a slightly wider leg. If you are wanting a pair of Fullcounts specifically, I think there is a reason that the 0105 is considered their best cut. Zero restriction in movement, and they are absurdly comfortable. Ultimately, people are buying Fullcounts specifically for the balance of comfort provided by the zimbabwean cotton and vintage aesthetic. However, if you cant stand the wide or slouched silhouette and you like the silhouette of the 1101 or a more traditional 1940s/50s 501 cut, you would be better off just opting for the SC1947 or the Warehouse 1001xx.

Is there a good visual guide of how the Levi’s 501 fit has changed over the years?

>>18677172
Thank you. A lot of good information. Yeah maybe should have gone with 0105 now that I’ve been looking at how it fits. Wanted a pair of black jeans though and the 1101bg was on sale. If it doesn’t work out I’ll buy one of the ones you’ve recommended.

>>18676539
Maybe look into soaking with vinegar. I have a bunch of wrangler 13mwz's that softened up a bunch with one or two vinegar soaks and minimal indigo loss. They're also like 20 bucks each so I didn't worry about it but they came out great

>>18677511
Try here: https://www.jeansza.com/en/blog-jeans/tracing-the-legend-of-levi-s-501-lvc

My Levi 541s have shrunk and faded quite a bit are there any better options or should I just buy another pair

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>>18677515
Pic related are my Fullcounts. The 1101 might fit you really well without any of the mobility issues, but if you end up running into the same issue as me i would strongly suggest sending them back and just opting for the 0105. Even if you have to spend a few extra bucks, the 0105 is so enjoyable to wear that it’s just 100% worth pulling the trigger. I’ve worn through a shit ton of really nice jap 501 repros and they all end up softening up and getting really comfy, but there is a level of comfort that Fullcount’s denim reaches that any other company cannot really compete with and it’s ultimately the reason why I always yearn to put this particular pair on more than anything else.

>>18677172
What are your measurements? Quads, calves, waist?

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>>18677779
Never measured my actual leg measurements, but if I'm looking for more of a balanced 501 straight leg, my ideal size chart for jeans are:
>Waist: 33-33.5"
>FR: 12.5"
>BR:16.5-17"
>Thigh: 13.4-13.5"
>Knee: 10"
>Hem: 9"
The 1101 isn't a "terrible" cut in that it looks bad. I actually think it looks really good as long as you size your thighs correctly. It just has a tiny bit more restriction in the crotch than what I prefer and I'm VERY autistic about that shit and its why I typically just opt for "wide" or "relaxed" cuts

>>18677785
I'm in the same ballpark, personally prefer a slightly tapered jean though. Thanks for sharing.

>>18677792
>personally prefer a slightly tapered jean though
Freewheelers 1951 is a perfect fitting tapered jean. Nice roomy top block with slightly more taper to the hem without being within the "millennial taper" zone

>>18677792
>>18677793
Tapered fits are bad, thougheverbeit

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kino

https://www.onedimetime.com/products/black-canvas-workwear-chino
Anyone heard of this company? Don't wanna get bogged. Been looking for canvas work pants that don't look like silly cargo pants

It says here Iron Heart 21 oz. restocks take 2-3 years, would you care to explain?

>>18678016
Explain them not making 1955 regular release

>>18678027
Does it matter? It used to have a wider leg opening before they brought it back

>>18678027
1955, more like 1954 amirite?

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How do I replicate the JCVD silhouette? What jeans are similar to this cut?

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>>18677793
What would you rank the jeans you have tried from best to worst, in terms of fit.

>Freewheelers 1951
Thanks for the recommendation, what do you think of Orslow 105?

>>18678264
>>18678265
Those are probably 80's 505s.
>high waist
>straight fitted leg

>>18678264
They’re just Levi’s 501 or 505 you dumbotard

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>>18676514

Okayama 20% off sale right now

I want the sugarcane super denim, but the price is kinda ridiculous. I've been wearing their 1947s that I paid $160 for but I can't commit to a $420 pair that is more accurate in its reproduction.

>>18678620
I tried the 1945 super denim collectibles at Self Edge last month. Decent fit, but it’s just autism with all of the unnecessary historic details, not worth how much they charge for those. They’re literally made intentionally bad to accurately represent the shitty war time construction details. If you’re looking for an incredible, reasonably priced pair of repros, the TCB 30s is so fucking underrated it’s just criminal. Perfect wide/relaxed cut, and the denim has insane fade potential. I got a pair a couple months ago and was kind of blown away at how sturdy these things feel

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Anyone make jeans like Diesel in these kind of faded patterns with zipper flies? I can't stand buttons

Do the direct dye overdyed iron hearts fade differently than their older sulfur overdyed jeans? I have a pair of slubby overdyed jeans and the fades are showing up a bit more blue than I expected

How good are vintage Armani Jeans (AJ) jeans? The whole sub-brand was discontinued in 2017

despite its name, the N&F strong guy fit is not good for strong guys

>>18678735
What about true guy? Can I wear them as a transman?

>>18678761
It depends, are you clocky?

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>>18678721
The ones that are on the roomier side are too-tier. Also quite durable.

>>18678816
*top-tier

>>18678735
The cut looks weird. Also, there’s an entire universe of selvedge brands that make infinitely better looking jeans. All of N&F cuts are gay, and their entire brand depends on retard millennial cultists to purchase literally every one of their gimmicky “limited edition denim” drops. Samurai and Iron Heart are the Japanese equivalents of the same retardation. These types of companies get mogged by the Osaka 5 and other repro brands. They have their few select jeans that are perfect and balanced, and they just make those jeans because they know everyone loves the tried and true recipe and that they will all be purchased shortly after a restock

>>18678852
The most outlandish thing Iron Heart sells is their overdyed denim, seems a little unfair to compare them to N&F and Samurai

>>18678862
I actually consider the overdyed black denim to be their least outlandish thing. The fades on those jeans are pretty subtle in terms of not really contrasting too hard and in terms of the color being more of a muted color. Out of all those companies mentioned, Iron Heart’s 21 oz denim exists as a small exception to what I would categorize the others as gimmicky. It’s very soft, and it has the ability to fade more like a vintage denim which makes it look more versatile. All the other shit from samurai, Oni, N&F and other millennial tier brands are over the top, textured, heavy weight nonsense. Even Iron Heart’s other denims are arguably gimmicky; 25 oz, 19 oz LHT with an ungodly tight weave, ultra slubby 16 oz. If Iron Heart just became a flannel company, I would not be that angry

Gonna get me some Flat Head 3004/3005 jeans
Only pair of jeans I have in my wardrobe are some Uniqlo jeans that are a bit loose now since I lost some weight

>>18678933
The 3004 has a superior top block, go with those. I tried the 3005 in a local store and it had a horrendously low rise and tight top block. Their 14.5 oz pioneer denim is fucking timeless though

>my fullcount 1101 size 33 is like 34,5 inches
Damn that’s unfortunate. Thought the Japanese had small waists. Had expected it to be like 32 or something. Can’t even size down because they don’t do a 34 inseam below 33 waist.

>>18679078
This is always why you look at the size charts before buying anything. The 1101bk has a huge waist size, but the normal indigos have an actual waist size around 33 inches in size 33.

>>18679138
>waist size changes depending on colour
Fucking nips. Should I tumble dry them or something? How much do you usually lose in the waist if you hot wash and tumble dry? They’re already One Washed.

>>18679161
If they’re already one washed, you’re definitely not going to shrink the waist 1.5” even with a hot wash and tumble dry. I would strongly recommend sending back and exchanging for the 0105. Fullcount’s denim has a relatively loose weave, so it will stretch out a bit. I wear size 34 in most jap brands and opted for size 33 with the 0105 for a perfect fit. If the retailer is willing to work with you, you could also just ask for a refund and spend the money on a pair of one of the following:
>Sugarcane 1947
>Warehouse 1001xx
>Freewheelers 1947

>>18678867
>variety of fabrics including a super heavy weight and a moderately slubby option are as gimmicky as N&F cum-dyed weft
Mind-broken by Nippon motorcyclist apparel

>>18679309
Yeah, it’s all meme bullshit

>>18676514
>*brap*

>>18679311
>ad hominem
I accept your concession

>>18678961
Cool thanks for the heads up. Turns out there's a decent discount at a local retailer for that pair specifically too.

>>18679361
Might be worth checking out their 8004 and D111 cuts. Not usually a fan of heavier weight denim, but the 18 oz on the 8004 is actually really fuckin nice. The D111 is a solid wide cut with Zimbabwean cotton. I’ve been wanting to get a pair of flat heads this year and it’s honestly kind of hard to choose

>>18676514
Do any of the current Uniqlo raw jeans have a button fly? I remembered years ago they did but then they switched to zippers

>>18676539
Just wash them once, a full length proper wash (and hour or whatever your machine does). They will always fade as long as you wear them. The wash them again maybe 3 months after. Then however often you want

I pretty much always buy my raw jeans second hand and wash them and Im pretty sure the previous owner has washed them before and they always end up getting my own bodies fades

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So am I supposed to cut these off or what?

Should I get some Full Count or Flat Head jeans?
I usually get one pair a year and wear it for a year straight.

>>18679610
Depends what you’re looking for. Fullcount is the pinnacle of comfort and drape with that true vintage 501 aesthetic. However, the only cut that’s really worth getting is the 0105 which definitely exists on the wider/loose end of the straight cut spectrum. Their 1101 cut looks really great, but a lot of people experience tightness in the crotch area. The 0105 wasn’t something I initially liked, but as they softened up they became one of my top 3 favorite pairs of all time. In contrast, Flat Head has more vibrant high contrast fade potential since it comes in a much darker indigo dye. In my opinion, Flat Head has better, more balanced top blocks and leg silhouettes, whereas Fullcount is intentionally designed to be drapey/slouchy for practical function, movement, and comfort. Best Flat Head cut is the 3004/8004. Gives you a roomy top block but with (in my opinion) a balanced taper so that the jeans don’t look super dumpy after they wear in. I also think Flat Head’s build quality feels a little more beefy or durable, but it’s not on the same level as iron heart since the thread is still cotton and will eventually break over time

>>18679613
My favorite pair of jeans I own are my TCB 50s but I fucked up and they were hemmed too short. But that fit is my favorite. I could just get another pair but they are extremely slow faders in my experience
Based on what you said I think I'll check out the Flat Head jeans

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Fades on my Freewheelers 1947

>>18679617
If you want to keep that really straightforward repro style similar to the TCB 50s, the Sugarcane 1947 is actually pretty close to those in terms of cut/dimensions. However, the Flat Head 3004 is such a great pair and the denim will have more vibrant fading and prominent vertical slubbing if that’s something you like

I hate button flys. I have never owned a single pair of jeans with a button fly where the button holes didn't warp and stretch out over time

Thingken of getting a denim jacket
Also, thoughts on the "leafcuck tuxedo" look?

>>18679647
>thoughts on the "leafcuck tuxedo" look?
Shut the fuck up you stupid retard

>>18679649
You’re an angry angry man

>>18679647
If you’re going to pull off double denim, do a type I or II jacket. Both of those have a boxier cropped cut, whereas the Type III is too slim and will give you more of that unflattering skinnyfat millenial silhouette. Some people say to avoid the same shade of indigo with both the top and bottoms, but I personally don’t think it’s that big of a deal compared to how well both the jeans and jacket complement your proportions and what color you’re contrasting with beneath the jacket. You will not find a better Type I or II cut than the Freewheelers stuff

Anyone know where to find cheap good work socks?

>>18679668
walmart

>>18679647
People keep bringing up the double denim thing as some fashion sin but I've never understood the fuzz. Yeah maybe if you're hanging around very fashionable people and they expect you to put in more effort so you showing up to the club in your monochrome outfit it just creates a clash of styles. Still, black jeans with blue jacket is also an easy to follow rule similar to matching leather colors with the belt and shoes.

>>18679668
absolutely hilarious thinking there are people helpless and retarded enough that they came to the internet and 4chan of all places to ask the fashion board where to buy shitty socks

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Iron Heart releasing new wider fit this month, 684. At least in Germany. Would be easier to see if it’s any good if he wasn’t wigger saggin’ though.

>>18679701
They’re releasing it in some new 16 oz denim. If they end up releasing a pair in their 21 oz overdyed black then I would jump on it, but it’s basically just a normal 1947 style cut with repro looking denim. If I wanted another pair of normal repros, I’d choose from like 10 other companies over IH. The only denim worth getting from IH is their 21 oz variations, it’s their forte. It blows my mind that there are actually people who buy their 14 oz

>>18679706
>1947 repro but with superior polycotton stitching
Alright I’m officially getting intrigued

Indigofera Kirk vs Freenote Cloth Modesto. Any thoughts?

>>18679701
I want a pair of Iron Hearts but I don't like how far apart the back pockets are

>>18679755
That’s a fundamental part of their design that they are never going to change. I personally kind of like it, but it’s offset with how retarded all of their cuts are

>>18679635
I actually decided to shake things up and ended up ordering another pair of TCBs but their 505 since the 505 is my favorite Levi's style.
Thought I'd see how they compare

>>18680020
I've been eyeballing those, but the narrow leg of the 505s do not mix well with my legs. Pls review when you get them.

Why is there such a tantalising and curious correlation between interest in mid to high end Japanese selvedge and the large legged millenial curse?

>>18680102
>large legged millenial curse
What the fuck are you talking about

>>18680105
I'm talking about the well known and commonly observed tendency of rapidly ageing millenials to have big ol' gams and butts

>>18680112
It's called not being a dyel

>>18680122
Trust me I know more than most.

>>18680112
Coming soon to a zoomer near you!
Zoomers are gonna be even fatter than millennials since their diets aren't even real food anymore

>>18680102
There’s more large legged millennials who don’t wear selvedge, as well as non thick-legged millennials who are into it. Shitty bait

>>18680176
Its actually fairly well known and remarked upon in these threads. Lurk moar.

>>18680301
No, it’s literally just you attempting to meme it in every single one of these threads. It’s not just big thigh millennials who like selvedge, it’s arguably JUST millennials regardless how big their thighs are.

Board so dead the resident troll is arguing with himself again.

>>18680353
>….said the resident troll as he jerked his tiny, pathetic penis while fawning over his $40 13MWZ

>>18680348
No this is actually well known and remarked upon troll. Quit trolling. Troll.

>>18679701
Sagging or another retardly low rise?
>>18680006
What’s wrong with the 1955 cut?

My TCB jeans got here already. They went from Japan to Texas in two days and got delivered
Absolutely wild

>>18680834
The 1955 has too much taper below the knee, completely unnecessary. The top block is great though. If they just took the top block of the 1955 and paired it with the taper ratio of the 634, literally nobody would buy the 634 or the 1955

>>18680865
Niiice, which ones? I got the 30s cut a couple months ago and it’s a perfect pair of jeans. Built surprisingly beefy too

>>18680865
Every time I order from japan its faster than usps getting me something from a couple states away.

>>18680899
Their 505. I already own their 50s so I decided to try a new fit
I'll try them on when I'm home from work

>>18680903
It helps that I live near all the major hubs so everything just flies in and then it's immediate on a truck out for delivery
If I ever move I'll have to get used to things taking longer to get here

>>18679469
Zippers can be fixed as easily as replacing a button. Stop being a fucking autistic retard.

>still no answer on how to deal with beak butt

>>18681044
About 10 threads ago piggenius gave a full treatment of this.

>>18681058
I missed that. Link?

https://warosu.org/fa/thread/18548003#p18566228

Ur welcum

Would any of you guys be willing to wear my jeans for me so I can get some fades accelerated. Do any of you work physical labour jobs?

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>>18681044
Buy brands that directly address it.
Hayashi, the guy behind Resolute, explicitly says in interviews that he designed his jeans to properly fit the ass.

I believe post-rebrand Momotaro has said similar.

>>18681044
What’s that

>>18681384
Which Resolute model?

>>18681347
Pretty amazing how not a single good-looking denim ass was posted despite the gay discussion.

>>18681421
We'll you're the expert pal why don't you post some ass

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>>18681426

>>18681433
Like looking into an ass mirror for me personally

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>>18681416
714. Also comes in black.

>>18681044
The solution is having a nice, full ass

>>18681524
100% this. This guy shows up in every thread to bitch about his dreaded beak butt. He posted a photo of his fit in a thread last year and demonstrated that he’s actually just skelly and is incapable of filling out the seat in most jeans

It's time to bring back the aggressive millenial taper. I'm gonna do it.

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>>18681347
Thank you Anon very cool

>>18681534
based retard

>>18681604
Have fun looking soi

A guy came into work today with a sashiko jacket and selvedge pants and I did not realize how hideous I looked.

>>18681736
Compared to him? He mogged you that bad?

>>18681736
I saw a selvedge bro in the wild at my old job. Big cuffs, Iron Rangers, etc. Looked bad
That's when I decided I never wanted my selvedge to be the main part of an outfit

Saggerchads don't have this issue, cause unlike boys with class we have swag.

>>18681604
>undercut: check
>wayfarer sunglasses: check
>slim cut type III trucker jacket: check
>extra deep v-neck t-shirt: check
>cuffed gayron heart 888s: check
>redwings: check

>>18681834
There are legitimately still guys in every US metropolitan area that wear the slim cut nudies iron ranger combo with some sort of tight fitting button up shirt buttoned all the way to the neck. There’s a barista at a cafe I go to sometimes that is this exact person, and yes he has the quintessential Reddit soillennial phenotype. I will walk in with my Fullcount 0105 and he looks like he immediately becomes mogged, slouching his head down to avoid eye contact while steaming milk for a latte

>>18681904
>local schizoid imagines himself mogging normal, well-adjusted people who don’t even know he exists

>>18681736
Sashiko can look pretty fly. Been thinking about getting a chore coat in kakishibu but it's like 700 dollars. Looks like a great 'old man jacket' though

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>>18681384
>>18681450
714 fits me perfectly. Its a little baggy on the ass but it doesn’t show.
My favorite resolute fit however is 711. I dare everyone to try them atleast once. They are not comfortable for sitting down but perfect for moving around. They do cut into your ass but in a strangely comfortable way. It lets you move around freely in a way few jeans allow.

Also good luck finding 714 in black available anywhere. They sold out quick.

>>18681873
You get it. You understand. You innerstand.

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>>18681931
Oh yeah this would look great on my BIG HUGE MILLENIAL ASS AND THIGHS

>>18681985
No. The 710 is difficult. I own a few pairs but im too big to fit them comfortably. They still look good for tight jeans though. I even own the 712 but those are a real challenge. The fit is really good but the crotch gets crushed after a while. All good pants still. Recommend

>>18681985
Why does redcast heritage squeeze their models in the slimmest jeans possible and make them wear oversized tees? Every fit on the site looks awful.

>>18682017
Yeah I don’t understand. I own some pairs that they sell and you’d think that some of their normal straight or even relaxed cuts are slim based on their models

>>18681904
Fucking KEEEK.

>>18682017
>>18682039
Have you ever checked the niggas at stuf|f?

Just looked at the Resolute 711. Why would they take a 50s repro and make the rise lower? There’s literally nothing wrong with the 1950s 501 and it seems kind of pointless to tinker with it. The entire point with the 50s repros is to have a normal to relaxed top block. If you want a lower rise, just buy the 60s repros

>>18678632
TCB in general is underrated. I already have enough pairs that I don't have any jeans from them, but I picked up their seaman pants and they've been great.

>>18678735
N&F has interesting fabrics, but I've never liked their cuts. Some of their stuff is just a meme but I still think the majority of fabrics are interesting. I got three pairs when I first got into nicer denim but have since gotten rid of all of them.

>>18682057
All TCB models have great denim fabrics but they all give you pointy butt. It’s a fucking shame and a tragedy. The Japs are so fucking stupid.

le pointy butt man has posted

>>18681906
Many such cases

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>>18682075
>They hated Him, because he spoke the truth

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>>18682089
Brotha idk, I’m not experiencing that. Maybe it’s a skill issue?

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>>18682017
Look at this lil goofball wearing Flat Head 3004s

>>18682120
homunculus core

>>18676514
What are jeans that are high quality, fit well, and are reasonably priced, in 2026? $100-$150/pair really good quality but not necessarily designer. Size is a 38x30 with a long inseam.

>>18682223
Unbranded Brand. Comes in a few fits and a range of fabrics. Japanese denim, hidden back pocket rivets, all options in your price range in various fabrics and fits. Avoid the heavy versions if you're new to this kind of denim, they will feel and look weird to what you're expecting.

>>18682055
The guy looked at kids jeans and how they fit and made a pair of similar fitting jeans for adults. I think the whole 50’s repro thing is irrelevant for the fit. Sure it got the right details, the wide legs and all but the main point of the jeans is to have a pant that you can move in without any issues. I find them to be perfect work pants but terrible for lounging

>>18682278
>I find them to be perfect work pants but terrible for lounging
Like I said, there’s literally nothing wrong with the 50s repros. They have a high enough rise without it being dumpy, plenty of thigh room, limited taper. Absolutely zero issue lounging and working in them. I have found that any jeans with a rise lower than 12” fits really uncomfortably and ends up digging into my taint and balls

>>18682320
Fine don’t try them then. But they are a one of a kind type of jeans and probably stands out as one of the most unique fits amongst all japanese repro brands

>>18682223
>30 inseam
>long
What?

If I won the lottery I would invite you all for a two week shopping and onsen spree in glorious Nippon.

>>18682350
>mfw I actually went on a trip to Japan before I cared about selvedge
Had loadsof money to burn, could have got me enough denim to be set for life.

>>18681931
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>>18682097
Am I the only one who finds jeans without arcuate weird? Like I get it's a cleaner design, but still they look... unfinished to me.

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>these are the jeans they used to make in 2000s

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>>18682391

And they are all tuff beyond words...

Bros, I need some recs. I am looking for a high waisted, straight leg selvedge denim that costs $250 or less. I just can't justify the 300+ ones
And it must have a zipper fly

>>18683044
Look for 1980s European raws, they cost 20 bucks and are the same as the Japanese ones

Thoughts on Omoto?

>>18683083
aren't they a brand new brand? if i remember right they used to work at one of the big name japanese brands and decided to start their own

>>18683089
yeah they started last year

>>18683083
they seem to have good cuts

Vintage 501s arrived today and I'm sad to report that I'm moose knuckling in them. The thinspo thread is calling my name.

>>18683098
Post pics.

>>18683044
I copied your text into ChatGPT and got these options:
>Momotaro #100
>Bronson 1966
>Japan Blue J404
>Hiroshi Kato The Pail Loose Straight

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Literally every single social media ad for selvedge denim that shows up on my feed has this exact breed of man with this exact cut. Tight top block with baggy legs paired with some cropped tee worn by a performative male with a mustache who is likely a self proclaimed male feminist

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Can this be fixed? Are snags like these inevitable with slubby denim?

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>>18683197
Are you seriously obsessing over that? Jeans are 100% meant to be worn in and distressed. Slub denim is much more prone to fraying due to its shorter staple length.

>>18678933
Ok I got a pair of new 3004s in size 36 for $240, pretty deal good deal I'd say? It was the only size left and this size 36 is more like a 33 which is convenient.
They look pretty good and the feel of the denim wild compared to what I'm used to but holy fuck these are annoying to button and unbutton. I'm still in the middle of weight loss but still, I've never had this much of an issue in store fitting rooms even with borderline fits. Are all Japanese selvedge jeans like this?

There is nothing wrong with Levis Premium selvedge other than crying about it not being made in the US or Japan

>>18683225
The flat head is known for being sized pretty small. I wear size 33 in most American brands which translates to a size 34 in Japan brands. For a size 34 in most jap brands, flat head equivalents would be size 36. The majority of jap brands use button flys. They get softer and easier to button with more wear. Over time, I began to prefer the button fly over zippers. Have fun with those 3004, not a bad choice for what is presumed to be your first pair of jap raws

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Headed to Nipland in a few months. Really want to get a pair of cinch backs, what are the best ones?

>>18683274
TCB 30s

>>18683280
looks pretty good, wish the back pockets had arcuate tho

>>18683286
I know studio D’Artisan has a wide leg cinch back cut with arcuates if that’s important to you. Might be cool for you to just do a tour of the Osaka 5 storefronts if you’re looking for something to do

>>18683177
Raw and selvedge denim in general is for retards.

>>18683287
Are the storefronts in the same area?

>>18683299
They're all from Osaka, so I'd assume? I've never been, but if I took a trip to Japan that would definitely be on the bucket list. At least check out Fullcount, Warehouse, and Studio Dartisan. Those three will give you a really great representation of vintage 501 inspired jeans as well as other timeless pieces of clothing like loopwheeled sweaters, work shirts, etc.

what the fuck is up with TCB's sizing?
I am a 34 in pretty much everything but a 36 in their 50s but I am probably gonna be a 38 in their 505, just waiting for Ryo to reply to my email on sizing
I've never worn a 38 in my life for anything

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>>18683573
It has to be unique to the 505 itself. I am a 34 in 90%+ of jap brands and wear a 34 in their 30s cut. Haven't worn their 50s cut though so idk

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>>18683177
Why is that subhuman sagging mid rise jeans to a low rise level? Why can't "men" wear pants properly anymore?

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>>18683177
the algorithm shows you what you interact with an like so fuck off retard

>>18683573
If they're accurate repros of the 67 505 then you'd probably want to go one size up anyway. And considering jap brands tend to size small, then going up two sizes wouldn't be so outlandish for that particular model.

imagine actually spending 250-300 dollars for jeans that look like shit

>>18683749
example?

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>>18683749
yeah that shits for poor people

>>18683749
Only looks like shit if you look like shit. They're literally just pants

11,5oz 75% cotton, 25% linen jeans breathable enough to be comfy for summer?

>>18683806
Yes that's very light and both cotton and linen breathes very well. If it too hot to wear those jeans it's probably too hot to even wear pants at which point you can just turn them into jorts.

>>18683816
Thanks they’re like 300usd so don’t see myself cutting them though lel. What are all of our thoughts on white jeans? Never owned any. The ones I’m thinking about getting are these
>https://nakedandfamousdenim.com/products/true-guy-tabi-selvedge-off-white-1?srsltid=AfmBOormLbRU5FH5Z_HkgBQYzR3IM43iWwfzBBNLJmaNpawBiPCgz7JW&variant=52708147069293
Or are white jeans stupid and you should just get some other type of pants if you want white ones?

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>>18683792
seethe, redditor. the idea that a pair of raw jeans has to cost that much is completely made up by japanese marketing and storytelling and you fall for it like a fucking fool. not to mention any actual vintage levi’s look 5000% better than that sloppy garbage

>>18684000
Nice ugly grandpa pants

>>18683857
White jeans are summer party pants. The problem is that it's not always summer and its not always party time.

>>18684000
Pleated denim goes crazy, w2c?

>>18683857
>What are all of our thoughts on white jeans?
They have their place. As the other anon said, summer pants. You can get a pair in creme or crude cotton if nuclear white is too much for you.

>>18684039
>ape mad because good jeans used to and still do cost 40 bucks

>>18684066
okay gramps nice pleats

Why vintage Levi’s = pockets on the ass cheeks, and modern Levi’s = pockets below the ass? Is this a conspiracy? Seriously

>>18684253
It's because people are less fit now and wear their pants lower. This is not a conspiracy it's reality. Pockets are lower because the average weather is fat and the lower pockets work better for bigger bodies
It's why a lot of repro brands like to copy the higher pockets of older jeans

>>18684272
So is it about the construction of the jeans or the habits of the wearers?

>>18684318
The wearers. Anyone can simply make the pockets higher. But it's the fact the average consumer is 1) fat and 2) wears their pants lower
Remember, even within the menswear scene, high waisted is still seen as grandpa pants and uncool
So many "classic menswear" brands still don't offer true high rise because they don't sell enough
If you're not wearing high rise, you won't like your pockets that high on your ass

>>18684321
Do you think high-rise is going to return to actual popularity or is it a lost cause?

>>18684349
People physically can't fit inside them anymore. There's people walking around with 36 inch waist jeans that would have to switch to pants with a +40 inch waist if they wanted to change from low rise to high rise. People would rather lie to themselves and think they've only gained 2 inches on their waist line since high school by agreeing to the societial delusion that the waistline is on the hips.

>>18684349
It’s not going to happen. Not only are people generally too fat to wear high rise, but streetwear (generally the all encompassing label for popular fashion) will never adopt it because it’s seen as a remnant of an old bygone era. You’ll always have repro larpers that will be into the 1930s-50s high rise jeans, but it’s never going to adopted by normies and pop culture unless people buy them specifically to have massively long sag

>>18684380
High-rise has been the men’s standard from the first appearance of trousers to the middle of the 1990s.

>>18684399
Hat's were damned near universal as well for both men and women since they were invented. Then sometime in the 20th century people just sort of decided to stop wearing them as much. Maybe if its really cold they put something on, maybe they wear a baseball cap if its sunny outside and they don't like wearing sunglasses. People's heads didn't get fatter, fashion just changed.

This entire thread is about a fabric that was around for ages but never really caught on as anything other than a very niche workman's fabric. Then some mad man thought of the idea of using rivets normally reserved to fasten sheet metal together to reinforce the weak points on the pocket. That was such a wildly successful idea that the fabric became the most popular fabric and the pants became the most popular pants, on every single continent on the planet. Even the most backwards rural people would see some guy in a photo wearing a pair of light blue Levi's 501s and renounced their cultural heritage on the spot and haven't looked back since.

>>18684417
>Then sometime in the 20th century people just sort of decided to stop wearing them as much.
Blame Kennedy. Off-topic, but I think several factors contributed to the downfall of hats. For once, people working and spending more time indoors. Then there's cars and lastly indoor plumbing. Being able to take a shower and wash your hair whenever made hats less relevant at keeping your hair clean.

>>18684417
>some mad man invented
>wildly successful idea
Great way to show your american “education”. You may think all of that makes super duper sense, but it actually has nothing to do with the subject of where your pants sit on your body. It’s either low rise or high rise. If younger generations look at periods where high rise was the norm (1900s - 1990s) to draw inspiration — and that’s literally exactly what zoomers are doing right now, consciously or unconsciously — then the pants will be worn high rise; if younger generations look at periods where low rise was the norm (1990s - 2022, so literally 30 years if we want to exaggerate) then they will wear them pants low rise. It’s not rocket science.
>b-but men are FAT now!!
Not every country is murrica, anon.

>>18684439
You actually believe hats can not come back in style in, say, 5 years? You’re completely illiterate about how fashion and mass taste work.

>>18684440
>Not every country is murrica, anon.
Every country is getting fatter. This is not a controversial claim. We are growing more food, we're doing less manual labor and we're using powered transportation more.

>>18684450
Are you really this retarded? Posting 60 IQ crap in two threads at the same time?

>>18684454
>Posting 60 IQ crap in two threads at the same time
?

>>18684458
>we are growing more food so we all get fatter
Jesus Christ.

>>18684459
Yeah I'm more curious about your claim that I'm posting in two threads at the same time.

>>18684444
Give it up Elaine, the urban sombrero isn't happening.

>>18684468
Have you got yourself a bidet, mutt?

>>18684349
It IS back, not fully, but it's back. Most brands still do mid rise and call it high rise though
I was literally at a Levi's today and tried on some 501s to see if I like the cut and despite being "high rise" they're barely even mid rise

So who still produces higher-rise men's denim with back pockets that actually sit on the ass? Everything else looks sort of sloppy.

>>18684493
Japanese repro brands and that's it

where can I get a good repro of a wrangler 24MJZ?

>>18684482
>ACTUAL popularity
I know it IS back, but NOT FULLY back.

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>>18684493
Vintage Levi’s is the answer. You can still find hundreds of pairs literally new, from new old stock to people who kept them in a drawer for decades. Japanese repros are ridiculously expensive and three out of five cuts have beak butt and slouchy front so it’s a hit or miss. Pretty bad when you have to order online like a fucking cuck and risk the pain in the ass of the returning process which almost always ends up with you losing even more money. Stay away from Lee and Wrangler.

>>18684523
Bro what are you talking about? Vintage Levi's have all been gobbled up by collectors and they sell for thousands now

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>>18684523
>Stay away from Wrangler
Bro what? I'm not some die hard Wrangler fanatic, but the 13mwz is THE pair of relatively high rise jeans that sits the back pockets on the ass.

Considering you're the insufferable skelly faggot with zero ass who cannot shut the fuck up about "muh beakbutt", I think it's fair to say nobody should take anything you say seriously

>>18684542
That ass looks like an Halloween pumpkin. Fabric is not supposed to be that tight. Looks gay and really, really bad.

>skelly faggot with zero ass
Bro we’re men, we’re not supposed to have big butts. Jeans should give you a nice ass (which means no sagging, no extra room, but also no super tight like Wranglers) even a fortiori if you’re slim.

>>18684651
Bro we're rapidly ageing millenials we have HUGE ENOURMOUS ASSES

>>18684527
If you're talking about 60's and 70's stuff then yeah. However you can still find stuff from the 80's and 90's for cheap.
Even though it's generally agreed that the stuff from those decades was lower quality, it is still pretty decent and better than most current production stuff.
Just a couple days ago I got a pair of 615 orange tab jeans and both the fabric and the stitching is superior to current mainline. Paid ten eurobucks for them.
You can also find stuff from Made & Crafted (blue tab) for cheap, which is better than the current Premium line.

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>>18684651
>Bro we’re men, we’re not supposed to have big butts
Lmao

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>>18684651
Sweatie, Wrangler jeans are tight because they're made for horse riders. Riding pants (whether for horses or motorcycles) are always tight in the ass region to prevent sliding and chaffing.

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>>18684715
You:

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>>18684715
Me:

>>18684721
Yeah, like were you under the impression that this thread is anything other than early-middle lardasses posting about their oriental meme jeans?

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>>18684039
This isn't the early 2010s, faggot. Your skinny bitch jeans are not trendy anymore. Most people have gone back to classic cuts.

>>18684737
No one is wearing skinny jeans you fucking moron holy shit. You're trying so hard to be edgy and mean while at the same time posting pleated grandpa pants

This whole website is a rapidly ageing millenial care home, the average poster is 45 years old. They should pipe in arcade fire and fleet Foxes music to calm us all down.

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>>18684739
>muh pleated grandpa pants
Retarded fag, every zoomer and zoomerette wears pleated pants now. Touch grass.

>>18684771
>don't you wanna look like a braindead zoomer???
I accept your concession

>>18684774
Fucking retard, your entire argument is about wearing "muh grandpa pants", when in reality they're just normal pants. It's you faggots with your 2010s soilennial fashion who are the exceptions, not the rule.

>>18684737
ho hey
why were millennials so soi?

>>18684779
you lost fuck off stop replying

bickering aside, what are the highest rise jeans? I looked up wranglers and apparently they're all 11 1/8th while I see some fullcounts at over 13 inches on the larger sizes. Do fullcounts just go all the way up to the belly button or are there even higher rises lurking out there?

>>18684876
Among the standard 5p options, the highest I've seen is the Orslow 100 and Big John M1012RC. Although you could probably find higher from the more fashion forward designers like Ciota, auralee, etc.

Finding deeper rises than those requires looking at the denim painter pants/trousers territory. Warehouse lot 1233 and Jelado 41 denim for example.

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>>18684860
Keep coping in your soilennial jeans, faggot.

>>18684493
Idk check out orslows dad fit jeans. But with all high rise pants you need suspenders if you want them to stay up. Sizing down just makes the waist uncomfortably slim and with any jeans its just a matter of time until they start to expand and sag down

>>18684737
>>18684931
>here's the large-legged millennials I was telling ypu about

>you will NEVER find the perfect cropped denim jacket

>>18684972
Just order a custom one from somewhere like Soso.

>>18684876
Don’t go above the 33cm front rise, it’ll look like shit.

>>18684876
Check out Jelado 301xx or TCB 40s. Can’t remember if they’re the highest rise I’ve seen but they’re up there. Also, keep in mind that not all size charts are accurate. The rise of my Fullcount 0105 are comparable to my wranglers, but the shape of the top blocks are so different and produce completely different fits. Wranglers are going to hug the butt whereas any Fullcount cut is going to look slouchy

>>18684988
What if I need at least 34cm for the pants to reach my actual waist?

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>>18684972
just find the perfect denim jacket and crop it yourself xd

Fullcount bros, I just got some 1101's from the fullcount store, but I had to size up from 35's to 38's, since the 35's legs were too tight (the waist fit perfectly though). And they didnt have 36's in the store.

How fucked am I? can I just get the waist taken in by a tailor? Anyone have success getting their jeans waists taken in?

>>18684972
Non stock lee rider repro

>>18685049
Those are definitely going to be massive in the waist. Jumping up 3 sizes is quite a lot. You really should have just gone with the 0105 especially if the thighs are a limiting factor for you. I wear size 35 in the 1101 for a thigh width that fits me, and a 33 in the 0105. The 0105 gives me a perfect waist size with plenty of leg room. I’ve said it a million times in these threads and I’ll say it again, the 0105 is their most popular cut for a good reason. The whole point with buying Fullcount is for comfort. The 0105 achieves that better than anything, whereas a lot of people complain about the 1101 being too slim in the thigh and crotch.

You need to just send those back and buy the 0105. Double check the size charts to find a comparable waist size. The sizing on the 1101 does not transfer directly to the 0105

>>18684972
Try types I or II instead of III

>>18685074
Eh, its too late to return them. I got pretty rushed in the shop and didnt have time to try the 1105's. Maybe next time.

I think taking in the waist by 1.5 inches or so shouldnt be too hard, no? There's only a 2inch waist difference between the 35's and 38's Plus, it fits well otherwise. Thanks fullcount bro

>>18685086
If you don’t care about constantly having a bunch of fabric bunching up under your belt, then they should work perfectly. My autistic ass could never hahah

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>>18684966
>suspenders
Is this bait or nigga genuinely retarded?

>>18685212
Try wearing pants that high using a belt and see how uncomfortable it is. Essentially sitting down because it makes the stomach expand and suddenly the belt is too tight

>>18685232
I wear them every single day nigga

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>>18685232
Then fix your posture, fatty. My stomach doesn't expand when I sit down because my lower back doesn't arch forward.

>>18685076
Show me a type II with a body length shorter than 24.5 inches

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Yea or nay? Ebay guy is asking a hundred bucks for this.

>>18685308
Looks gay as hell dude

>>18685308
a hundred bucks for that shit? lmao

>>18685308
I wouldn't pay $10 for it

>>18685308
That shit is made of thin ass shirt denim. It looks cheap and gay. Not worth 100 shekels at all.

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>my reaction when I find out the english-speaking world says: “Leev-eyes”

>>18685420
And what do you say?

>>18684444
They don't go with 99% of outfits people are wearing nowadays

>>18685438
like levee

>>18685438
The Jewish name/surname Levi is pronounced LEH-vee, or even better LAY-vee.

Bought some levis 512 bootcut. Did I get memed?

>>18685575
All Levi’s models have a number that starts with 5 because 5 is the symbol of the Devil.

what does 9 oz denim feel like

is anyone brave enough to wear a denim shirt with their jacket and jeans? triple denim...

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>>18685685
I do that all the time. I've also done an overshirt under the jacket on cold days, but it's a bit much.

>>18685685
Three denim layers I don’t, but two yeah, it’s cool. Jeans + different colour shirt + denim jacket.

>>18685575
>512
I wore a pair a lot during the 2010's. But they weren't bootcut, they were slim carrot shaped. Quintaessentially millennial, save the rise wasn't absurdly low. I deeply regret my millennial taper phase. I didn't know any better.

>>18684985
Soso and Nama both look like pretty good options. Does anyone know where I can find a measurement chart for vintage type I and II jackets? Typically how much longer are the sleeves than the jacket body?