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What do I need to care for my boots?
>Old cotton t shirt (one for cleaning, another for applying conditioners)
>Horsehair brush ($10-15)
>Wooden shoe trees ($10-15)
>Light conditioner like Lexol/Bick4/renovateur
>Heavy conditioner (if you live in terrible snow/rain areas) Sno seal/Obernauf LP
>Don't forget that boots need time to dry properly, rotate them and rest them

How do I deal with x stain?
>mud: allow it to dry then brush off
>salt: water and cloth as soon as possible
>saturated wet: allow the boot to dry for a full day, stuff with newspaper
>scuffs and scratches: buff vigorously with horsehair brush

>Should I buy turdsdays/soloshits/doc shitans?
No they are filled with synthetic materials aimed at instant comfort but will not hold up to actual use.
>b-b-but muh ecelebs on youtube said they're good
no. you will waste your time and money and still have uncomfortable footwear at the end of the day. spend the extra $100 and get something real.
>Are Thursdays any good?
no.

Manufacturer Red Flags
>Luxury
>Bespoke
>Sustainable
>Vegan
>Unknown leather source
>Made in Chyna/Mexico/Indonesia

Boot Red Flags
>Dainite (Get vibram v-bar instead)
>C*rk/C*lastic
>Zippers
>Non gusseted tongues
>Excessive/unnecessary seams
>Combination/mixed material heels

Boot Brands NO
>Turdsdays
>Doc Shitters/Soloshitters
>any Whatsapp makers in the far east
>Blkbrd

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>>18682504
>niggas on the internet really do all this just to get mogged by boots that you just put on and wear outside
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>>18682730
you don't understand, he has an internet reputation to uphold!
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I heard you guys love high quality, handmade, and hand welted boots
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>>18682743
buy an ad
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>but but but white's are the best bootmakers in the US...
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>>18682746
>cork
not a real boot
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>>18682730
requires going outside
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>>18682771
shelf deemed acceptable
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>but but but showing wear and patina is ugly
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>>18682792
Nobody said that
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>>18682792
>normal wear on casual boots from someone who doesn't abuse their shit
thunderdome cucks could never.
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>>18682870
you mean you dont walk through bushes at night?
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>>18682792
peak reddit
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>>18682792
gotta love how almost none of the boots patinaproject and thunderdome post to their social media have won anything, but they still use them for marketing and promotion
why don't they use the grimy and fake boots that actually got the prizes instead?
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>>18682792
Those aged beautifully. And yes, I know saying "aged" for a pair of boots that have been worn for six months is an exaggeration.

>>18683195
Man, sanding not only looks super obvious, it's also cringe as fuck. Nothing in the patina thinderdome makes sense.
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>>18683195
>that beat up with no sole wear
lmao
I dont even get why they do this. its like fake brake calipers. boot guys can spot it from a mile away and normalfags think you got it at jcpenny like that
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>>18683195
the most hilarious thing to me about the thunderdome and all that is that natural wear looks better. if you just wear your boots and do stuff in them, they will look great after a while. no need to sand them, or scrape your feet against curbs or "walk through bushes at night" kicking your feet together or whatever retardation these bugmen do. just wear them

knowing that the thunderdome is a collaboration of brands designed to increase sales ruins the entire thing. you MUST buy a brand new pair of boots for it, you MUST destroy your new pair of boots, and after you MUST get a new replacement pair since you ruined yours. they're laughing all the way to the bank while retards ruin their expensive boots to show off to other retards
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I've had a pair of Clark's Desert Boots for years. They were like $140. I love them so I went to get another pair and saw the Bushacre 2.0's for like under 1/2rd of the price. I got a pair and compared them, outside of the sole I cannot see what is different about them. Is there a difference I am not noticing? What is up with this?
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>>18683486
Guess what, retard? When you resole your boots you get >le beat up with no sole wear
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>>18683621
Bushacre 2 is called the Desert Boot Evo. Not sure if it's dependant on the market or if they're phased out the name or what.
Anyway, I own both and the Evo (what my model is called) has a better last. Slightly more refined looking. The sole is hard rubber and not crepe, that's the biggest difference. Last and sole. Sizing IS the same which I found out the hard way listening to the advice of retards on the internet saying to size down on the Original.
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>>18683626
Settle down, Dale. Go kick your feet together while you bump into curbs at 3am some more
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>>18683632
schizo post
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>>18683631
>The sole is hard rubber and not crepe
This is really the only difference I could see. I prefer the rubber sole because the crepe one picks up all sorts of shit nonstop and it doesn't have good grip on wet, smooth surfaces. The price difference is such that I thought there would be a bigger difference.
As for the name I'm from the US, this is what they were listed as at Macy's, but looking at the Clark's website it is the Evo, weird that they have two names.
Thanks.
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the longer i've been into boots and nice footwear, the more i hate the look of cap toes. only think i like them on now is oxfords
but on derbies or boots, they look dumb. reminds me of a circumcised penis
plain toe all the way
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Anyone tried those silicone heel protectors off Amazon? How well do they work for you? Fuck I should've waited and spent 3-4x more to get some Rolling Dub Trio or John Lofgren boots instead of these Blundstone 585s I got. I was in a store to get a jacket but decided to try on some boots while I was at it and they didn't chafe my right heel.
Well, nothing I can do about it now since the RDT Stan in size 9 just got sold out and I need to wait until August for the Lofgren Chelseas to be restocked.
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>>18683724
you don't break you shoes into your feet. you break your feet into your shoes
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>>18683724
>bro I should have spent gorillionth retardollars for le ebin japacopy of what americans do bro
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>>18683626
>cobbler didnt unfuck the edges for fun
struck dog
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Not boot but no boot thread here

Is this /fa/ approved?

Sorry I’m a polfag

https://www.birkenstock.com/ca/naples-wrapped-suede-leather/napleswrapped-suede-suedeleather-272912-evarubber-u_11795.html?gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=19341028965&gbraid=0AAAAACqIRBIgZDBbln3iDeGzJkGSsbFsF&gclid=CjwKCAjwhe3OBhABEiwA6392zNRH7yw19UVZRsg7lr5v2m0lff2NPxq-DVNxlwxbe5VPmAsNeYkrtRoCSnoQAvD_BwE
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>>18683847
I have some of their Bostons and enjoy them as a casual shoe I like to wear around the house or whatever, and I know lots of people that swear by their Arizona sandles
But those ones you posted are basically 200 slippers. I can't imagine they are worth that price
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>>18683718
>the longer i've been into boots and nice footwear, the more i hate the look of cap toes
same
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>>18683718
>>18683910
they’re definitely reddit
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>>18683991
the cap toes on these look so bad
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I went to the Carmina store in Madrid with my girlfriend, neither of the two people working the floor said a word to us even though the whole shop was empty. We looked at a few pairs of boots and shoes and left without trying anything on.
This is probably just the Spanish way, but you´d think a salesman would try to sell you something.
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>>18684211

>you´d think a salesman would try to sell you something.

"Salesman" is a title, not an outlook. I work a retail shift every so often and work to inform customers, not sell them things.

It might be cultural, but it seems like you didn't want to buy anything, or else you would have engaged. They could have made the effort, but you could have, too.

Why would you want someone to sell you something you don't want?
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>>18684211
They weren't "salesmen" they were "sales associates" aka wagies. They're just there to grab your size from the back and check you out at the register. They don't care about anything but their paychecks
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Got rid of nigsneakers after I turned 26 and starting to fill up real boots and shoes. 6 spots (already got beaters and my tradie work boots outside)

What can I fill the other 4 spots with.
I’m autistic with organization so 4 spots for one shoe for each season (Jim green for fall) (red wing spring) so that leaves summer and winter(snows here) and an Oxford and who knows what for the sixth spot
. Need help
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>>18684239
White's MP
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>>18684211
You did the right thing since their boots are shit
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>>18684239
kys my dude
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>>18684243
What’s MP?
>>18684248
Meet me irl faggot
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>>18684239
Plain toe derbies as a casual alternative to sneakers but not a boot.
Oxfords if you have a reason to own them, skip if you don't. I find myself wearing them to weddings quite frequently
Ranger Mocs/boat shoes. I really like my Rancourts
Desert boots for an unlined summer option when lace up ankle boots are too hot
Cowboy boots because they're based as fuck and look cool
Loafers as a great option when you want something that doesn't have laces and can bridge the gap between formal and casual
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>>18684249
White's are right

https://whitesboots.com/products/mp-sherman-toe-cap-half-lug
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>>18684239
"checking all the boxes" is the bad way to build a collection and you already started out by getting 2 boots that are quite samey
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>>18678517
>So RM Williams no longer does leather insoles?
They do, but only on 2 basic ass models in their standard line and in all of the "signature line" which are incredibly poor value.
It's retarded. The "poron comfort sole" is SHIT. If you really must by rmw get the basic leather in/outsole craftsman model and stick a topy on it or something. Everyone wants fucking cushions on their feet, but instead of wearing sneakers they're conned into the "comfort craftsman", which unfortunately is the defaul craftsman now.
If they ever bring back the blaxland model (synthetic outer, leather inner) then that would be the one to go for if you want longevity.
Until such a day you've got a choice of the most boring fucking brown or black craftsman as everything else has that dogshit synthetic inner construction.
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Bootfags:
I've been using an old bottle of lexol conditioner from years back. I saw briefly that apparently lexol is shit now (?), and that I'm better off switching to something else when this bottle finally runs out.
I liked lexol as it didn't darken the leather at all, and apparently all it did was condition and nothing more, no polish, no clean, nothing, which is all I wanted.
What's the thing to use now? Or do I just go back to VSC or saphir renovateur? I think my vsc has congealed in the bottle. I wonder if it's still safe.
To be used on: calf, goat, kudu.

Also, is VSC still the go to thing for shell?
Thank you.
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>>18684291
Really unfortunate to see a prestigious brand like that go the way of the toilet the same as so many other formerly great brands
Especial since RM Williams is one of the definitive made in Australia products. Does Australia even manufacture anything else?
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>>18684297
I have been using VSC for years and never once had any problems with it at all. Zero complaints
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>Chippewa
>Frye
What happened to these brands? James Dean supposedly wore Chippewa in Rebel Without a Cause and Marlon Brand supposedly wore Frye in The Wild One (though I've heard sources say it was Wesco)
Red Wing and the PNW makers are pretty much all that's left
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>>18684302
When I was last in oz a few years ago I wandered into a store of theirs and the wagie, a younger guy, was delighted at the change in ownership and was positive on the outlook. Maybe the new guy, some mining magnate, blew smoke up all the bright eyed and bushy tailed arses or something at the start. It's been nearly 3 years and I haven't seen any substantial changes in quality. If anything the choices have become more limited than even under lvmh.
Give it a few years; maybe it'll improve. I would say that if they ever get to the point where they offer the customisation service again then that would be the point that I buy them again.

>Does Australia even manufacture anything else?
Very little. It's why the place ultmately has no future. If you're talking footwear, then if you want totally made in australia:
>redback
>mongrel
which have a sorta adidas/puma style familial feud backstory apparently. Not welted, but they're ok for fucking around and great for international travel ime. The Mongrel K9 line are less workbooty and try to look more dressy. Other brands like Harold, who I thought had died years ago, are partially made in australia or mostly made in vietnam or china and finished or something in aus.
RMW is the only "quality" footwear brand mass producing their product totally withing australia.'I saw something about a tiny tasmanian bookmaker but I can't confirm that shit.
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>>18684297
i went back to reno after i ran out of lexol, it definitely shines a lot more but it just works

>>18684308
chippewa died when they couldn't compete with the iron rangers
frye is a mall brand now
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anyone have any experience with snakeskin boots? who makes some good quality boots?
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>>18684297
if you want no wax and as little color change as possible for calf, goat, kudu probably saphir nappa
boot black rich moisture and saphir lotion are also good
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I got some boat shoes one size too small, can't return them as they were final sale, will they stretch or should I just try to resell them?
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>>18684334
resell
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>>18684334
you should resell them for the mere fact that they’re boat shoes
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>>18684334
In my experience boat shoes stretch a ton! Sperrys, Rancourt. Both have stretched a lot
How small are we talking? You'll know of they're too small or just a little small
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>>18684330
Cousin has a pair of snakeskin cowboy boots from some old and defunct manufacturer. He uses them as his "dress boots" (lives in New Mexico) and complains regularly about how they need to be babied more than other boots and that they require special conditioners and cleaners. I'm sure the standard battery of cowboy boot makers have some snake skin offerings, you might also see them on some side zip boots, but I haven't really seen them used outside of that. No matter what style you pick should do heavy research to make sure you aren't getting scammed with fake snakeskin.

>>18684334
Just sell them, they won't stretch a full size. There's no point in messing up your feet for shoes that won't fit.
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Any alternatives to Saddleback Leather? They are overpriced for what it is but I havent been able to find anything with similar design, quality and cheaper.
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>>18684345
thanks for the infodump. probably going to avoid them then
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>>18684345
>>18684347
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>>18682870
Doesn't abuse, and also babies them by cleaning and conditioning way too often. Instead of increasing the lifespan, too much care will shorten the lifespan of the stitching.
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>>18682746
Which White’s boots with a heel like that uses cork?
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>>18682746
>gemming
Btw, anyone know if the donquixote-like cordswainer on SF that lead the original charge against gemming is still alive? He incited so much seethe back in the day...
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>>18682746
>he bought the cheap line thinking he could get the handwelt
lmao get real
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>>18684336
>>18684343
>>18684345
Oh nyo...
>>18684344
They're tight on the widest part of the foot, on the verge of being uncomfortable. If I wear them for an entire day my feet start hurting by the end of it. I think if I can get a bit of stretch out of them I can make them work.
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>>18684684
How new are they? Are they still breaking in?
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Test
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>>18684689
Only wore them twice, once for a couple hours and once for a day.
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>>18684699
I dunno bro I feel like telling you to keep them because my Sperrys stretched a ton, too much even, and my Rancourts were uncomfortable as fuck for like a week straight but now they're hella comfy
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>>18684777
Thanks yeah I think I'll keep them, maybe put some shoe trees in them to soften them up.
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hahahah what the hell
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I bought a pair of Jim Green's and upon trying them on I've found that this seam digs into my ankle. Anyone here has experience with these boots and knows whether that will go away as I break them in? I like them apart from that.
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>>18685065
we warned you about collar padding bro
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>>18685047
There was an old woman who lived on a shoe
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are these effay? need new summer boots
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>>18685047
lmfao americans
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>>18685185
shut up retard
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>>18685208
That's a Chinese bootmaker
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>>18685324
That’s an american shape and aesthetic
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>>18685065
what's your ankle circumference, you're making me worried
>>18685066
when
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>>18685345
Since when?
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>>18685377
Since a century. European boots are more minimalistic and sober.
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>>18685372
worried about what
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>>18685396
Nah
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I caved, this heatwave has shown I can't go back to sneakers and I can't wear my IRs with shorts. Got the Jim Green Vellies in brown suede which they're closing out, they're comfy.
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>>18685397
about the fact that jim green's might be uncomfortable on my wide-ankled feet
>>18685423
nice
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>>18685440
My ankle circumference is about 27cm, assuming I measured at the right spot. But I don't think that they're too tight, rather that this inner part is rubbing against the skin when you move.
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>but but but truman boot owners are chuds...
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>>18683718
>i hate the look of cap toes

Casual take
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>>18685447
looks like they forgot to skive the edge
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>>18685461
Frank’s enjoyers are the biggest chuds. Nothing but racists and anti-semites and “it’s not gay if balls don’t touch” feminine twink abusers.
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>>18685440
>wide-ankled feet
you mean obese?
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>>18685489
So fucking cringe and tragic.
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>>18684313
Luna boots. He’s like Frank except a faggot, heavy customization and overpriced for what he does. Dude will make anything but it all looks like something you’d see at a pride parade or drag show.
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>>18685461
I honestly don't get what you're trying to convey.
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>>18683724
>Blundstone 585s
As an Australian, I can tell you that you have fucked up. That shit was assembled in Australia from Viet-namese and Indonesian parts. You got jungle Asian boots and paid waaaay too much for em.
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do you boys rate Ariat highly or not? in terms of quality
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>>18685712
junk/10
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>>18685491
That doesn't matter. My ankles are wide. That's all you need to know.
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>>18685544
i just went with them because they were still over 2x cheaper than anything else I was considering and there was a store nearby for me to try them on.
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I will never understand the appeal of this hideous boot

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