>>108613353
what if I buy a VPS and tunnel through that? will the ISP know?

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I like how these news are constantly repeated to show everyone how nefariously evil Russia is, and how we all should be happy we live in the West where we're FREE.
And immediately afterwards, the same governments that defend Freedom and Democracy start passing laws to do exactly the same shit because... uuuuuuuuh... think of the children!

>>108613353
>DPI bypassing like Green Tunnel
Never heard of it, but it looks like it's just DNS over HTTPS. Which anyone can already do through using something like quad9

>>108613570
wait why are you extrapolating a bullshit Labour UK proposition onto the entire "West" like... what?
here in "the West," ivan, we all know labour are commies and they SUCK. at least those who arent commies know this
btw
>banning the use of VPNs by under-18s.
still a dumb proposition, but there's quite a leap between that and, like, banning the entire concept of VPNs, for everyone
LMAO

>>108613494
A few people will do this and eventually the government will require your ISP to only allow you to connect to a whitelist of IP addresses

>>108613570
The UK and Australia are the most authoritarian, anti-free speech shitholes in the West and they're STILL less authoritarian than Russia

>>108613677
they might as well disconnect from the american internet at that point

>>108613628
Russia, despite the insistence that they're the most evil, are still less evil than the western governments who are being blackmailed by a genocidal empire for raping and eating kids.

>>108613688
That's the end goal - no internet at all, or a controlled playpen internet like in North Korea

>>108613671
>wait why are you extrapolating a bullshit Labour UK proposition onto the entire "West" like... what?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/us-states-want-to-ban-vpns-but-citizens-are-already-fighting-back/ar-AA1OTVCe
Shut the fuck up, we're not immune either, burgermutt

>>108613353
>domestic internet platforms
Nothing of value lost. But what they're actually doing is fishing for VPN/VPS IPs when you accidentally (or in ignorance) connect to one of those sites (or mostly specifically apps) with it on. Then block it later.
There are also loophole ISPs who don't give a fuck and refuse to implement the most extreme of this bullshit, we'll see how long they'll last I guess.

I hate it here.

>>108613628
go back nafo trannie

>>108613677
>and eventually the government will require your ISP to only allow you to connect to a whitelist of IP addresses
Russia has already been doing this on mobile networks in the western regions. Currently the only good solution is use a VPS hosted in a whitelisted prefix and tunnel through that from your phone. But even that'll eventually get closed up. Frankly, I don't see why Russia wouldn't just pull out of RIPE NCC and the global RIR system and start allocating prefixes themselves. Immediately solves the IPv4 exhaustion problem, and it'd instantly result in every single transit provider on the planet blacklisting routes into and out of Russia.

>>108613494
depends on the VPN (or proxy) protocol.
and once you have that part working, you can multi-hop by e.g. using a typical VPN provider in the second hop (this is trivial with linux ns and veth).
and what i actually came to say in this thread is that ironically, this is a case where "VIBE CODING" could help. citizens individually rolling their own encrypted UDP protocols, and changing them from time to time. or maybe i'm putting too much confidence on both LLMs and the average person.
the best "teh evil goberment" can do is block all UDP traffic (which would kill all HTTP3), which would make the user experience slightly shit. but you would still be able to bypass with TCP.
>>108613677
even if someone wanted to do this, it's not a workable solution, you can't not underblock or overblock. it's another irony in that all big cloud providers have personal offerings.

>>108613353
i don't care what happens in that shithole, fuck off

>>108613353
greentunnel is useless. they use zapret in russia

i don't have a raging hateboner for that country nor do i really think about or care for it one way or another. how is this any different to what china does? westerners circlejerk all day long about freedom but i'm yet to see a situation where this type of thing is a net negative for the citizens. those who know and are willing can always get on VPNs, china does not prosecute or punish even though it's technically illegal to not use certain "approved" VPNs only for companies. this type of thing is for mainly wrangling the simpleton masses.

>>108613810
they need to convince post soviet countries and china to do the same or they lose ability to do any business in those countries

>>108613867
this is what jews unironically want you to believe

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nothing can stop me

>>108613814
Why would the government care about overblocking? They probably only want like 5 websites to work

everything will require an ID soon enough so they are fuck, vpn or not.

>>108613858
> restricted internet access is ACKschually le good for the citizens!

>>108613858
>westerners circlejerk all day long about freedom but i'm yet to see a situation where this type of thing is a net negative for the citizens.
North-Korea?

>>108613890
>doesn't give a real answer
unless you're the niggercattle in question that needs to be wrangled, you have nothing to be concerned about.

>>108613880
are you a jeet or a teenager or both?
it's the same reason they would care to keep internet connections to outside the country at all. if they wouldn't care about that, then it would be no longer the internet, just a national intranet.

>>108613858
>i don't have a raging hateboner for that country nor do i really think about or care for it one way or another
Easy to say when you don't live here.
>those who know and are willing can always get on VPNs
Nigger are you even reading? They're actively trying to block every single bypass including those like 50 people use, you think VPNs will just werk? We're long past surface level redirects.
>China
Irrelevant.

>>108613858
>i don't have a raging hateboner for that country
brownest post award

>>108613628
It's the UK trying to shut down 4chan.

>>108613353
>The Russians' only hope now lies in DPI bypassing like Green Tunnel
Lol, are you retarded? These DPI bypassing methods dies in the first global wave of blocks last year. They're not working anymore.

>>108613353
All the countries are going full china on the internet.
Good bye all freedom.

>>108613570
>>108613867
>Russia and China "censorship"
Fully justified, aimed at thwarting glowniggers attacks.
Not an opinion, a fact, as western compagnies helped with the assassinations in Iran in june 2025.

>western censorship
Delusional and paranoid belief that there is some kind of forbidden knowledge in non-regulated non-approved news sources.
Not an opinion, a fact, as seen by the EU ban on Russia Today.

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>>108614117
Russia has wartime internet slowly converging to what north-korea has. At this point chinese internet is likely more free than russian one.

>>108613570
It's a worldwide problem. When one country gets away with it, other countries start getting ideas.

>>108613783
two more weeks

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>>108614214
It's more "muh chilluns" as usual on the western internet. Most of it aimed at making kids dumber by robbing them of valuable life experience involving computers and the internet, things they will live with the rest of their lives.

In India (yeah yeah good morning saar I'm white as a sheet) they have kids as young as 5 forced to use computers in class even if they are too poor to afford a smart phone. Because they know that hiding the internet from these kids will make them incredibly stupid and prone to the scammers of their own country who will live and breathe the internet for the rest of their lives.

In our country we block the internet for anyone less than 18, demand they use slide rules and 20 year old encyclopedias for classroom knowledge, and be shocked we have a society of fucking dumbass retards who just want to scroll tiktok all day.

We seemingly always choose the worst path for the thing we want to do. If we want to protect children, we should have computer classes for kids young enough to even move a mouse while their brains are still a sponge and they can learn to navigate and be safe on the complex framework of rapists and scammers. Hiding them from that until they no longer give a shit just makes them targets.

>>108613570
>>108613353
russki see, russki do. When will they stop being such westaboos?

>>108613570
China and the West are converging on the same model of authoritarian capitalism. Russia and China at least do it for the health of the species, along with the intention of protecting the regime from criticism. The UK and soon Canada are doing the same, just without protecting their people from harmful ideologies - the VPN bans are JUST to prevent ideological opposition and enforcing conformity with the Labour/Liberal party line.

>>108613353
Life uh.... finds a way.

>>108613628
this painting is literally just the same thing as soijaks

>>108613628
NO ONE DO IT OR GET THE NOOSE REGARD

>>108613570
The worst country in the West is still thousand times better than Russia.

>>108613867
Both are lame and gay but for different reasons.
Slava ukraini btw
>>108617944
This.
Idk how people here still believe that Russia is a good country.
I'll admit that Moscow and st Petersburg are amazing, but other than that it's just an authoritarian third world shithole

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>>108616455
nobody cares thirdie

>>108613353
Billions of dollar equivalent is being dumped into this even during the war so yeah it will happen eventually.
You cannot resolve political issue with technical means. You are just one nerd against massive fascist(literal) regime.
They don't even care about collateral business damage, there are regular payment processing outages in russia now because of this monkey circus.
They fear the internet organized rebellion so hard they don't give a fuck about collaterals any more.
The only sensible choice is to fuck off anywhere out of this shithole because it's only going to get worse.

>>108613353
> VPNs are now banned in Russia thru ISP-side detection (since yesterday, April 15th)
> since yesterday
You are illiterate Internet TV device watching idiot.

ISP level website blocks have existed for decades. They are supposed to be accountable and based on court orders. In addition to that, government DPI boxes, which are unaccountable, and do anything they want, were installed. Most popular VPN service subnets have been completely blocked by them long ago, in addition to popular hosters that allow you to get your own personal one.

And still, everyone keeps using banned services. Duckfaces promote beauty scams on Instagram, youtubers keep making videos on a website that officially does not work, and so on. Obviously, the higher classes do not even pretend that the laws are aimed at them, and there is a horde of paid political bloggers of all kind on Telegram still keeping their contracts with all kinds of government agencies and city councils.

It is funny how Russian media proclaim that everything is banned (and it's good), Western media proclaim that everything is banned (and it's bad), and you believe all of that, while typical Russian user knows that those are fucking gopniks whose words are worth nothing, and keeps tunnelling Steam via proxy countries.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwDrHqNZ9lo

What is actually happening is that Russian oligarchs are losing money, so everyone has to support them. Mail.ru group bought most big local services, and desperately needs people to use them, make money there, and pay the tax in both money and data. Along with local media companies and advertisers, hey made censorship agency their dog, and lobbied the bans for most competitors as quickly as American data collecting industry lobbied age verification and other identity checks. They even put trojan module into their new messenger (which is heavily promoted as official while it belongs to a private company) that checks if banned services are accessible.

>>108613494
>This person only ever connects to this one random server that nobody else connects to. Must be a VPN. Send the Putler Death Squad Squad to his house to make him sign the paperwork.

>>108613353
Just buy starlink lmao dam

>>108613720
>Russia raping kids.

Yup the increase of 5 year olds contracting Aids in Russia pretty much proves that Russia is the evil empire if the constant bombing of cities for the last 4 years did not convince you.

>The West can do fucked up things but that never take way the evil crown from Russia

Based, I hope this is implemented in Europe soon. Very tired of seeing britfags seethe about russians in every thread

>>108618852
Starlink is an ISP. They will have to comply with the same laws and you know damn well they will be happy to.

>>108619182
So just launch youre own faggy satellite retard
If you get a hundred people to chip in five grand each, you could easily launch your own internet satellite

>>108613353
QUIC tunneling can easily bypass muh DPI and disguise itself as HTTP3 traffic. They either break HTTP3 which is used by most top websites these days or let QUIC pass their rotuers.

>>108619215
2digit IQ nig/g/er - UDP is blocked. QUIC BTFO

Get back to watch jeetube David "OKBOOMER" Bombal

>>108619182
>Starlink
KIKE BGP SHITHOLE

>>108618763
Everybody everywhere is scratching for what they can get
Did you think anybody in this town is any different?
They don't give a damn who gets killed
Just as long as the dice keep rollin'
The hoes keep hoein' and the money keeps flowin'

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwDrHqNZ9lo
TOP KEK

Westoid nig/g/az just don't fucken know that in Turkmenistan unlimited internet access costs 2000$ USD PER MONTH on the black market to be able bypass whitelists. I'm not talking about 10-25G fiber. Just a regular access up to 1Gbit. Just bypassing DPI and whitelisting.

stupid MIGA burgers. Prepare to war for your internet access or become GOYcattle.

why is this literal third world nigger sperging out /pol/shit as if anyone cares

how the fuck can ISPs detect VPNs when the connection is fucking encrypted

fuck this retarded ragebait article

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>>108613353
In the past I've successfully used Xray-core to bypass China's great firewall DPI:
https://github.com/XTLS/Xray-core

Disguising traffic as HTTPS

you can literally use Clouldfalre as a proxy and if the ISP blocks clouldfalre they might as well turn off the internet

>>108619390
stupid miga nigger ..tell us about DPI and some techniques how to bypass whitelisting.

>>108619436
another 2digit
regular "mental outlaw" subscriber aka nig/g/er

GOYGPT:
Since mid-2025, Russian ISPs have been systematically throttling traffic to Cloudflare rather than cleanly blocking it.
A common technique limits connections to about 16 KB of data, which breaks most modern websites that rely on Cloudflare.
Some of ISP just blocked kikeflare ASNs. checkmate stupid KIKE.

>>108619428
>https://github.com/XTLS/Xray-core
this shit still works from time to time with modifications.

>>108617944
not online, which is the topic of discussion

>>108613570
When was UK anything but a dystopian shithole. I'm getting old now but ever since I was a kid it was full of CCTV camears, draconian laws, abusive police etc.

>>108615648
If tried to use India as a model that created smart citizens you live in a different reality buddy.

>>108619198
Are you for real?

>>108613353
>the alt-right praises putin for this

>>108620045
Yes? I guess if youre not American 5 grand is a lot. Sorry you weren't born in a real country dude

>>108613570
It's shitty no matter who does it.

>>108618805
There are ways around it.

>only ever connects to 1 server
Implies all your traffic is over the VPN. You don't have to route all your traffic over the VPN, only some.

>the 1 server
It can change IP's and domains all day long. Also this type of targeting would cause a lot of false positives to occur.

>government
My question is how government employees would circumvent this

>>108613353
>after decades of ziggers shitting up the internet their own gubmint bans them
uhhh based? worthless nation full of absolute subhumans, they deserve being locked with each other

>>108613353
If it becomes sophisticated or harsh enough there will be zero way to bypass it.

>>108620447
How would they achieve this, doomer? The only way to do this is whitelisted IPs only, North Korea style. And even then it wouldn't work for a bunch of reasons. Not only is there satelite now, but people will hijack servers and use them as VPNs to piggyback from. You'd also have to ban literally every single cloud service provider that can host a VPS, which essentially means no contact with outside world whatsoever.

>>108620442
You're an idiot because they'll try this in your nation next

I am from Russia.
I use 2 methods to bypass restrictions - a dpi circumvention tool and a couple VPNs. On my pc i mostly use the dpi tool unless i need to access some website that has blocked russian ips (like Chatgpt), then i turn on a vpn. On my phone i use a vpn 24/7.
The internet is basically unusable in Russia nowadays without a vpn unless you are some normie who only uses VK, OZON and Yandex services.
Youtube, Twitter, 4chan, telegram and basically all big western websites are unreachable without a vpn. Reddit works though, lol

By the way, they're not gunning for random self hosted VPNs. I mean, they may put in some kind of protocol detection, but this can always be spoofed. Much like the West, Russia's implementation of this rule (for now) will be unthorough. It will mostly just blacklist major VPN companies such as Nord and Proton, which is a move that has been long coming anyways. Soon the West will do the exact same thing. VPNs have become too mainstream. They're so mainstream that normies can use them, which governments find unacceptable. If only the smart minority can hide their actions online, that's ok. If the average Joe goycattle can obscure their presence online by simply pressing a couple buttons, the government WILL step in.

>why this is a good thing
VPNs shouldn't be these giant conglomerates anyway. Giant conglomerates are always run by glowniggers. The act of using or running a VPN (as a non-corpo) is essentially adjacent to a criminal action anyway, at least from the point of view of the government. That's why you always need to treat it as such. This requires a lot of OPSEC (crypto, VPS, etc) and some knowledge too (how to run OpenVPN off your server for instance).

>corpos?
Banning VPNs would prevent corpos from functioning. I don't understand how no one sees this. It would crash the economy, among other damage caused

>>108620500
>The internet is basically unusable in Russia nowadays without a vpn unless you are some normie who only uses VK, OZON and Yandex services.
>Youtube, Twitter, 4chan, telegram and basically all big western websites are unreachable without a vpn. Reddit works though, lol
Интepecнo, ocвoбoдят ли oни интepнeт кoгдa вoйнa зaкoнчитcя, или мы ocтaнeмcя кaк Китaй?

>>108620533
It's going to get worse than the great firewall at this rate. And they definitely won't revert shit as-soon-as, but maybe eventually.
Assuming it ever fucking ends.

>>108620550
They might revert shit as soon as they see what it does to the economy

>>108620526
If vpn are all run by glowies why would they try to ban them?

>>108620602
Dumb question, but i will answer because at least it's probably not bait.

>run by glowies
They aren't "run" by glowies, but glowies have backdoor access. Kinda like how your business is run by you, but glowies can come by and make you their bitch at any point, accessing any of your shit. They're not always present, so they're not always "running it".

>the glowies
It's amazing how many Americans don't understand the following. No offense but you Americans are really dumb for a supposedly first world country. And if you're not American, you should be even more ashamed that you get compared to the dumbest first world country. Anyway, let's say an American glowie wants to access records from a business in Russia or China. Do you really think they'll be allowed in, to do whatever they want? No, they'll be told to fuck off. Therefore, Muttmerican glowies only have access to VPN servers that are within their sphere of influence. You retard Muttmericans have been conditioned to believe that Muttmerica's sphere of influence is indeed worldwide, but in reality it's shrinking. Your glowies couldn't even access Israeli VPN records if they wanted.

>but muh 5 eyes
Yes, there are situations where Muttmerican glowies can access VPN records in other shitholes such as Britain, but Muttmerican influence sphere is shrinking. Shrinking quite fast recently, i might add. Therefore, the next stage rapidly advances, which is the nationalization of the internet. No more worldwide internet, but an intranet for each nation. North Korea style.

I hope this answers your question. Glowies don't like things existing outside their sphere of influence. Right now, I can run a VPS in Venezuela from USA, and Muttmerican glowies can't obtain the VPN records, assuming those records even exist. They have no jurisdiction there.

>>108613880
3 out of 5 of those websites are probably hosted on cloudflare/google cloud/AWS since they host most of the internet, even in russia. Buying a VPS on any of these is functionally immune.

>>108613658
I don't know what green tunnel does but our DPI bypass utilities like byedpi and zapret mangle and shit up the traffic with fake packets to force DPI to fully reconstruct the traffic and not just sniff out SNI. Packets get heavily fragmented, sent out of order, fake fragments get low TTL or rare TCP options like md5 signature which servers usually don't support and drop. If the server is blocked by IP this doesn't work, but with ddos protection services like cloudflare this is increasingly more rare. It's possible to block but requires a huge amount of resources.
>>108613677
There is a whitelist for mobile operators during drone alarms. There are VPNs that operate from whitelisted IP ranges, they use vless and obfuscations to pretend to be regular https traffic and fake SNI with whitelisted addresses.

>>108620697
>вac
>BБ
>здeлaeт
>Aппл
What sort of fucking writing pattern is that, too stilted to be a real poster, too incorrect to be a formal translation. Does MTL add ""authentic"" spelling mistakes nowadays? You could just write your point in english ya know.

so you are telling me rusniggers are no longer allowed to vpn into my yuropean multiplayer games?
holy based if true i kneel putler

>>108613353
https://xcancel.com/NOELreports/status/2039708609299279924#m
fucking idiot

>>108619880
You're too ESL to have this conversation, Poopreesj.

>>108613353
Keep TOR on your computer bois.
Don't let the government to criminalize you.

>>108613353
They voted for this

Every 2 weeks we get another
>wow Russia cuts off its internet access for real this time guise!!!111
And then you go play any multiplayer game on an European server, and it's absolutely infested with Russian faggots.
Just cut the goddamn undersea cables at this point. I don't want to interact with those subhumans.

>>108620421
Retard it isnt about money. You cant recreate starlink with a single sat and even if you could you would never be allowed to do that.

>>108621001
Don't be mad cuz your translator doesn't work

Shadowsocks?

>>108622983
I'm a native speaker and that post was indeed written in a very weird manner. Who the fuck uses "вы" in a conversation with a stranger on an imageboard? And the text is very stilted, some sentences are word to word translations from english. I'm almost completely sure that some LLM was used to translate it, and not a good one.

>>108613353
2022:
>we will ban and block Russians as a punishment!
2025:
>wtf, why do the Russians block us and don't allow their citizen to be flooded by braindead bullshit on Facebook and promote their own platforms instead?!?!
Make up your mind, tranny.

>>108623337
Being cut off from Western services kinda sucks desu. Russians like doing business dealing in the west, now it's getting difficult

it doesnt work because i keep getting retarded russians in my games still

>>108619588
if thats true not a single russian could post here

>>108613814
>vibe coded encryption
what could possibly go wrong