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>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped
>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8
>CPU
Gaming: 250K, 14600k, 9/7600X, 7/9800X3D
-Budget: 225F, 7500F
Workstation: 270K
*Avoid Ascrock motherboards
*New sockets likely next year
*On Raptor Lake microcode updates are mandatory, avoid second-hand
>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Lian Li Galahad II Lite, Corsair Nautilus RS, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67
TIM: MX-6, MX-4, Duronaut, *PTM 7950, Kryosheet
*Most listings online are not actually 7950
>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AM5), 6400CL32 (LGA 1700)
Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget.), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)
>SSD (Keep firmware updated)
Budget: SN7100, NM790
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/
>GPU
Budget: Arc B580, 9060xt, 5060
-Used: 2080, 2080ti
*8gb has become a major constraint even at 1080p
Midrange: 5070, 9070
-Used: 3080, 3080ti
4k : 5070ti, 9070xt
-Native/High-end: 5090
>PSU
Buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-har dware-busters/
>MONITOR
1440p: 27" 165/180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), ASUS XG27AQWMG (WOLED)
4K: KTC M27P6 (miniLED)
>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt
>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)
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Do not trust Canadians.
Think for yourself. Do not blindly trust advice given here.
>A /pcbg/ for every use case and budget!
>Price tracking
RAM: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ram/ram-price-index-2026-lo west-price-on-ddr5-and-ddr4-memory- of-all-capacities
SSD: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ssds/ssd-price-tracking-202 6-lowest-price-on-every-m-2-ssd
GPU: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/lowest-gpu-prices-trac king
>GPU hierarchy 2026
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html
>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDca SpZRB6Xt6JWkc/
>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYH Aiom-FaDo/
>Other helpful Links
Mobomaps: https://mobomaps.com/
A PC build guide: https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PC
German autism: https://www.igorslab.de/en/
Alternate to pcpartpicker: https://pangoly.com/en/pc-builder
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>https://us.download.nvidia.com/Windows/596.21/596.21-desktop-win10-wi n11-64bit-international-dch-whql.ex e
New nvidia drivers just dropped. Update now!
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What's up with the 8gb 60/60ti results? Game secretly tweaking settings or pt isn't working or what is happening here?
Digital foundry says the game has issues on 8gb even without pt
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70 or 70ti depending on resolution and local pricing
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What are the implications of this data?
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>>108615373
Just another lack of optimization for the RE Engine.
There were separate teams in Capcom working on MH:Wilds, RE9, and Pragmata.
Wilds got the budget to unfuck the performance issues because it's expected to have a longer sustained revenue cycle with MTX and expansion.
Don't expect the same level of performance tuning for this new IP.
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5070ti & 5080 have nonstop driver issues
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>>108615110
>GPU
>Budget
B580 is good on a budget but at least in Australia the 9060 XT is an absolute scam for its price. Pay a little more for a 9070 XT and you'll get double the performance, the choice is obvious.
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RTX 5XXX is broken asf
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wtf nvidia is so overpowered
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>build new PC at the start of the rampocalypse
>don't use wifi
>today try to use Bluetooth on PC for <reasons>
>not working
>troubleshoot for an hour
>realize I never connected wifi antennas
>pic related
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>rtx 3060 comeback
>5800x3d comeback
>raptor lake comeback
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I want a 5080 tier gpu but with 12gb and a price similar to the 70ti
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>>108615863
The 9070 is questionable too when the 9070 XT is only slightly more expensive but has all the extra cores and shit. The 9070 XT is always getting good deals here, I got mine for the equivalent of 530 USD.
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This is a fake troll thread quit posting here it will be deleted eventually anyway the next time the mod looks at the board
Real Thread:
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>>108616301
>'I will act like an abortion you if you don't want to be my friend'
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Do we like it?
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>>108616474
NICO MY COUSIN LETS GO /pcbg/ TROLLING
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>>108616745
It's just more amdfag fantards shitting on everything that isn't amd. It's too early to make a call since there isn't pricing or clock speed data out, but Nova isn't looking all that bad from what details are there. Ultra 270K Plus & 250K Plus already got a lot of places that usually shove AMD cpus into every suggestion list and build to admit Intel was pushing out some good options.
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>>108617335
>costs 2x more
>now?
Imagine speculating on Zen 6 X3D prices in April 2026.
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>>108617441
>dogshit increase in price the older they get
just like the retro console market
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>2026
>Still no Monitor that is
>4K
>24"
>240Hz+
>16:10
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>>4K
>>24"
>16:10
This is based though.
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>>108617893
4K at 24" (16:10) is nearly 200DPI. At 27" it is 167DPI, at 32" that's 141DPI.
I can still see individual pixels at 200DPI at an arms length so it's technically still not good enough. It's not you, it's literally my freak eyes.
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>This is based though.
Yes, you can literally display 2^n DIN sheets on your monitor while losing minimal screen real estate to margins.
Also taller monitor = better monitor for other reasons.
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>Tech hasn't even arrived yet
>Time to move o-
pic rel
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>>108618463
Are you the guy who asked this question? >>108610889
How did you get the display so soon? In store pickup? Grats.
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If you buy a new mouse, don't use the ultra-high polling rate option like 8KHz unless reviewers validated their reliability.
It just keeps the CPU needlessly busy.
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>HXL posted a photo of what appears to be a presentation slide showing the Ryzen 7 5800X3D with its specs, alongside a special "AMD AM4 10 Years Anniversary Edition" plaque, and Chinese text indicating it will be available starting Q2 2026.
AM4 NIGGAS LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO FUAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRK!!
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>If you buy a new mouse, don't use the ultra-high polling rate option like 8KHz unless reviewers validated their reliability
that's because you keep buying buggy ass AMD CPUs with cheap asmedia USB controllers
8000 events per second is not a big deal for a modern system
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Some Windows setups have crazy high CPU Timer Resolution like 15ms. It should be 1ms or 0.5ms.
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>>108619761
it doesn't really matter
but if you have 8k available you might as well use it
it's different if you're on wireless, lower polling rate means better battery life
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has nothing to do with what i said and windows 11 doesn't have a fixed timer resolution anyway
USB devices like 8k mice or certain sound cards have problems on AMD because they contract asmedia to give them the cheapest possible host controller to put into their CPUs
intel designs their own IP
just like if you use a cheap realtek NIC it will have 20% CPU usage when maxing out the link, while a quality intel NIC won't show increased CPU usage at all
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>>108619833
or demand higher standards from your fellow gamers
AMD can design good cores, they just love to cheap out on everything else
like chipsets or socket design or power delivery or heat spreaders
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there's no global timer resolution on windows 11 at all
and that has nothing to do with USB handling
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https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/107992484/#107996200
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>Not strong enough for path tracing. I'm saving for 6090
And I am correct to assume you do in fact own a 5090, right? I mean, it's not like you are just making wild, false claims about hardware you do not actually have any experience with, is it?
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>I like it
All that matters, I'm happy for you.
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>>108620096
What I should have said was:
Unless you own the graphics card, you're just speculating, you have no empirical evidence.
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How do I actually tell which of a build's fans are making the most noise when they ramp up? Bunch of other sounds in my house and a neighbor's AC unit can make it hard to tell sometimes. Specifically more of the humming type of noise since at least I know a pulsing whine that I hear is coming from the GPU specifically, so the rest of the sounds have to be others.
In a fishtank, which combination helps to feed the GPU more cold air and throw out the used hot air?
>more power to bottom fans (120 x 3)
>more power to side fans (140 x 2)
>more power to rear fan (120 x 1)
>more power to top AIO (120 x 3)
I keep that rear fan at 50% minimum and it only goes up to 70% or so even at CPU 100C, the idea being to encourage more positive pressure and also to not steal air away from the AIO when the CPU is hot. I really wish this MSI motherboard of mine had a temperature average option rather than tieing fan speed to CPU temp only.
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I usually just set all of the fans to a low frequency (like 25%) then go through each one at a time maxing them out to identify which group I'm tweaking, then tuning them down until your find just the right % to have it run at before it gets obnoxiously loud
Case fans aren't really meant to cool your system in a conventional method so much as they're just there to move the heat out, so really any case fan curves should be flat at the highest frequency before they become audibly annoying level to you. CPU temp spikes too unpredictably to let your case fans fluctuate based on it causing a lot of random ramp ups an unwanted fan noise all because you opened firefox or something is updating in the background
I've found having your cpu/aio coolers function the same up until the cpu hits 75/80c then ramping them up to 100% works well
So like my desk area is very quiet usually so my noctua case fans are all constantly running at 42% no matter what the cpu temp is
My aio's fans are running at a constant 45% until the cpu hits 75c, then it slowly ramps up to 100% at >= 80c
Another thing to keep in mind is if you've got a lot of case fans, having them run at the same frequency can cause some humming, so I'd try to slight vary up the frequencies
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>In a fishtank
You'd probably have to increase the bottom intake fan RPMs.
Spend some time adjusting the fan curve & RPMs in the BIOS or other fan monitoring tool to isolate the noisiest set.
Find the fan RPM to noise sweet spot first before you experiment with fan curves (ex: set horizontally straight fan curve while testing noise tolerable RPMs).
The fans don't need to run near maximum RPM until the processor temp is around 80°C.
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My case and AIOs were around the 35-45 in the 45C to 70C 1st temp range, I just recently tuned the bottom up to 45-55 so that they sit there by default because I notice my GPU's a little bit warm on more demanding games while the CPU is barely feeling anything.
And by "little bit warm" I mean I took it down from 67-69C to 66-68 with that tweak, at the cost of making the hum noticeable on idle desktop usage rather than near silent.
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>CPU: i5-12400F
>MOBO: MSI Pro H610M-S or Asus Prime H610M-CS D4
>RAM: White Label Chink Garbage: 2x8GB, DDR4, 3200Mhz, CL19
>SSD: White Label Chink Garbage: 512GB, M.2 2280, PCIe, NVMe, Read 3100MB/s, Write 1200MB/s
>GPU: White Label Chink Garbage: GTX 1660 Super, 6GB
>PSU: White Label Chink Garbage: Darkflash AT650, 650w, 80 Plus Bronze, Active PFC
Any second opinions here? I'm planning to finish ordering today.
This one for ~$860, or ~$980 with XFX Radeon RX 6650 XT Speedster Swft210, or ~$1010 with Gigabyte Radeon RX 7600 Gaming OC 8GB.
There are some other lower end options like 2060S and 2070 too, but they probably aren't that cost effective.
(Prices are after currency conversion from my shithole.)
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im building a pc and my desk is basically at the side of my current TV (old 1080 sharp aquos "40 lcd), I've always just hooked up a HDMI across to my laptop and either watched animu there or sometimes play stuff I like to play with a controller instead of a keyboard,
So I was wondering if I should just do the same, but I Ignore modern technicalities that might fuck my experience, mind you im currently in a nearly 15 year old laptop and I also plan to replace my TV anyway, and I do play in consoles still so what my current laptop hand handle is very limited obviously, but I know it will obviously behave somewhat different
SO I was wondering if I should get both 4k tv and a monitor, OR just invest in a bigger than average monitor, I do like big screens, specially for single player games, and movies, and Im aiming for a more 1440p experience in gaming but the option is great to have
here's what I got so far
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4yBhg3
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best looking build ive saved.