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>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8

>CPU
Gaming: 250K, 14600k, 9/7600X, 7/9800X3D
-Budget: 225F, 7500F
Workstation: 270K

*Avoid Ascrock motherboards
*New sockets likely next year
*On Raptor Lake microcode updates are mandatory, avoid second-hand

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Lian Li Galahad II Lite, Corsair Nautilus RS, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

TIM: MX-6, MX-4, Duronaut, *PTM 7950, Kryosheet
*Most listings online are not actually 7950

>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AM5), 6400CL32 (LGA 1700)
Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget.), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)

>SSD (Keep firmware updated)
Budget: SN7100, NM790
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU
Budget: Arc B580, 9060xt, 5060
-Used: 2080, 2080ti
*8gb has become a major constraint even at 1080p
Midrange: 5070, 9070
-Used: 3080, 3080ti
4k : 5070ti, 9070xt
-Native/High-end: 5090

>PSU
Buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
1440p: 27" 165/180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), ASUS XG27AQWMG (WOLED)
4K: KTC M27P6 (miniLED)

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)

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Do not trust Canadians.

Think for yourself. Do not blindly trust advice given here.

>A /pcbg/ for every use case and budget!

>Price tracking
RAM: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ram/ram-price-index-2026-lowest-price-on-ddr5-and-ddr4-memory-of-all-capacities
SSD: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ssds/ssd-price-tracking-2026-lowest-price-on-every-m-2-ssd
GPU: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/lowest-gpu-prices-tracking

>GPU hierarchy 2026
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Other helpful Links
Mobomaps: https://mobomaps.com/
A PC build guide: https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PC
German autism: https://www.igorslab.de/en/
Alternate to pcpartpicker: https://pangoly.com/en/pc-builder
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cat pc
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>>108615110
This is the actual thread not one full of spam and lies.
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>>108615276
cute
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>>108615110
>https://us.download.nvidia.com/Windows/596.21/596.21-desktop-win10-win11-64bit-international-dch-whql.exe
New nvidia drivers just dropped. Update now!
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So should I wait or buy the 5070ti?
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>>108615338
buy asap
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What's up with the 8gb 60/60ti results? Game secretly tweaking settings or pt isn't working or what is happening here?
Digital foundry says the game has issues on 8gb even without pt
>>108615338
70 or 70ti depending on resolution and local pricing
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>>108615373
having too little vram can cause games to silently downgrade the textures and foliage which then improves performance since the gpu is doing less work
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What are the implications of this data?
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>>108615373
Just another lack of optimization for the RE Engine.
There were separate teams in Capcom working on MH:Wilds, RE9, and Pragmata.
Wilds got the budget to unfuck the performance issues because it's expected to have a longer sustained revenue cycle with MTX and expansion.
Don't expect the same level of performance tuning for this new IP.
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>>108615485
But it's only the 2 8gb gpus that stand out as weird.
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>>108615373
UMMM HELLOOO WHERE IS THE 9070XT

YOU'RE NOT TELLING ME IT CANNOT TRACE A SINGLE PATH ARE YOU
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>>108615338
>>108615373
>>108615367
5070ti & 5080 have nonstop driver issues
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>>108615548
that's A lie btw

the truth - the 9070XT cannot even play most modern games at high settings
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>>108615532
9070 was built for the games of the past, not the present or future. Hope this clears that up for you.
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>>108615110
>GPU
>Budget
B580 is good on a budget but at least in Australia the 9060 XT is an absolute scam for its price. Pay a little more for a 9070 XT and you'll get double the performance, the choice is obvious.
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>>108615574
5080 and 5070ti literally dont work on windows or linux today they have broken drivers its not A lie.
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>>108615574
RTX 5XXX is broken asf
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>>108615513
Not if you look at the non-raster & console-tier RT results.
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wtf nvidia is so overpowered
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>>108615584
Isn't the 9070 still like 60% more expensive than the 9060 even in Australia?
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>build new PC at the start of the rampocalypse
>don't use wifi
>today try to use Bluetooth on PC for <reasons>
>not working
>troubleshoot for an hour
>realize I never connected wifi antennas
>pic related
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>>108615276
won't that fill the fans with fur
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>rtx 3060 comeback
>5800x3d comeback
>raptor lake comeback
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>>108615921
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I want a 5080 tier gpu but with 12gb and a price similar to the 70ti
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>>108615921
I do wonder who is going to buy these.
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>>108615921
Why make new stuff when you can sell them the old stuff?
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>>108615986
I reckon you should hop in that time machine and mosey on down to November 2025
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>>108616174
If the 5800X3D is reasonable it'll have a lot of buyers. They were selling for like $500+ on ebay.
Of course we all know bots and scalpers are the people that are going to buy them.
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>>108615913
nah top is exhaust
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>>108615863
The 9070 is questionable too when the 9070 XT is only slightly more expensive but has all the extra cores and shit. The 9070 XT is always getting good deals here, I got mine for the equivalent of 530 USD.
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This is a fake troll thread quit posting here it will be deleted eventually anyway the next time the mod looks at the board
Real Thread:
>>108615222
>>108615222
>>108615222
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>>108616260
fuck off you filthy spammer stay in your spam general full of the same spam posts being posted over and over again (by you).

Or are you going to spam this thread nonstop now too?
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>>108616260
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>>108616260
Jannies aren't deleting threads anymore, you can just be the king of your very own iteration of /pcbg/
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>>108616301
>'I will act like an abortion you if you don't want to be my friend'
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>>108616260
Ah, sorry man.
Maybe next time? Honestly, you need to tighten up the OP a little bit, it just seems like a troll, you know?
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Do we like it?
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>>108616406
For what purpose?
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What even is a nicotroon?
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>>108616474
Some retard from Canada who got priced out of the 5070ti and decided he was going to make his life AMD and trying to bait people with faked or recycled tech support type question.
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>>108616443
Only way to deal with AMD's CPU thermals.
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>>108616483
He's Canadian?
Damn, with how he acts and how poor he seems, I thought he was a SEA monkey.
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>>108615456
Nova Lake is cringe until proven to be based, I wouldn't bet on it.
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>>108616553
>cringe until proven to be based
Why not the other way around? Most of what they've done recently was based
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>>108616474
NICO MY COUSIN LETS GO /pcbg/ TROLLING
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>>108616745
Intel can't even release their new CPUs on time.
Arrow Lake Refresh should've released last holiday season at the latest.
Nova Lake might not matter if a Zen 6 X3D CPU releases first.
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>>108616474
Based autist who gives nvidia shills their own medicine. (i.e. being an annoying shit, posting cherry picked benchmarks, making fun of driver problems with made up scenarios, etc.)
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>>108616340
>I will fucking PUNISH you this is MY board
god what a fucking faggot. some people would be better off if they just got it over with and killed themselves, this is fucking pathetic
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>>108616896
>Zen 6 X3D CPU releases first
>It costs 2x more than the eventually released intel equivalent
What now?
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>>108615921
>with a price increase of 400%
>and all stock will be bought by bots and scalpers 2 secs after they go live
nice...
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>>108616745
It's just more amdfag fantards shitting on everything that isn't amd. It's too early to make a call since there isn't pricing or clock speed data out, but Nova isn't looking all that bad from what details are there. Ultra 270K Plus & 250K Plus already got a lot of places that usually shove AMD cpus into every suggestion list and build to admit Intel was pushing out some good options.
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Everyday a 5090 buyer gets scammed
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>>108617335
>costs 2x more
>now?
Imagine speculating on Zen 6 X3D prices in April 2026.
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>>108617398
we got pex
6 beeps
invoice the customer
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>the xx90 cards increase in price the older they get
wtf?
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>>108617441
>dogshit increase in price the older they get
just like the retro console market
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>>108617454
Hey, leave the retro consoles alone...
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>>108615110
>2026
>Still no Monitor that is
>4K
>24"
>240Hz+
>16:10
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>>108617868
>>4K
>>24"


>16:10
This is based though.
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>>108617868
its time to move on anon
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>>108617893
4K at 24" (16:10) is nearly 200DPI. At 27" it is 167DPI, at 32" that's 141DPI.
I can still see individual pixels at 200DPI at an arms length so it's technically still not good enough. It's not you, it's literally my freak eyes.
>>16:10
>This is based though.
Yes, you can literally display 2^n DIN sheets on your monitor while losing minimal screen real estate to margins.
Also taller monitor = better monitor for other reasons.

>>108617906
>Tech hasn't even arrived yet
>Time to move o-
pic rel
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>>108617391
we just need MOAR CORES
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Just finished setting up the AW3425DW, holy shit bros, holy shit...
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>>108615986
buy a blackwell 6000
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I love my 5090 and OLED.
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a 240hz monitor paired with a mouse with a polling rate of 125 is crazy
and by crazy i mean fucking horrible
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>>108618483
That's the solution to the current state of hardware, just be rich.
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>>108618483
>5090
Not strong enough for path tracing. I'm saving for 6090
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>>108618463
Are you the guy who asked this question? >>108610889
How did you get the display so soon? In store pickup? Grats.

>>108618596
If you buy a new mouse, don't use the ultra-high polling rate option like 8KHz unless reviewers validated their reliability.
It just keeps the CPU needlessly busy.
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>>108618693
False. But I too will buy a 6090 as well.
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>>108618722
Yessir that's me, thanks! It was shipping, must've gotten lucky with amazon having it on a nearby center.
Will enjoy the hell out of Pragmata on it tomorrow
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>>108618956
nuh uh
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>>108615921
>HXL posted a photo of what appears to be a presentation slide showing the Ryzen 7 5800X3D with its specs, alongside a special "AMD AM4 10 Years Anniversary Edition" plaque, and Chinese text indicating it will be available starting Q2 2026.
AM4 NIGGAS LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO FUAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRK!!
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>>108618722
>If you buy a new mouse, don't use the ultra-high polling rate option like 8KHz unless reviewers validated their reliability
that's because you keep buying buggy ass AMD CPUs with cheap asmedia USB controllers
8000 events per second is not a big deal for a modern system
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My G502's max is 1000 but I use 500 and I am happy.
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>>108618722
>>108619473
Some Windows setups have crazy high CPU Timer Resolution like 15ms. It should be 1ms or 0.5ms.
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>>108619761
it doesn't really matter
but if you have 8k available you might as well use it
it's different if you're on wireless, lower polling rate means better battery life
>>108619762
has nothing to do with what i said and windows 11 doesn't have a fixed timer resolution anyway
USB devices like 8k mice or certain sound cards have problems on AMD because they contract asmedia to give them the cheapest possible host controller to put into their CPUs
intel designs their own IP
just like if you use a cheap realtek NIC it will have 20% CPU usage when maxing out the link, while a quality intel NIC won't show increased CPU usage at all
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>>108619811
So what you're saying is that we should have never left Intel and that we will one day return to the true faith.
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>>108619811
Windows 11 typically defaults to a 15.6ms system timer resolution unless it detects a game or audio but the detection isnt perfect just like the game bar scheduling bullshit.
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>>108619811
>has nothing to do with what i said
Yeah because you're retarded.
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>>108619833
He's just a retarded Intel user. His 14700k is slower than a 5800X3D in Cyberpunk.
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>>108619850
>Cyberpunk
Didn't ask.
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>>108619833
or demand higher standards from your fellow gamers
AMD can design good cores, they just love to cheap out on everything else
like chipsets or socket design or power delivery or heat spreaders
>>108619837
there's no global timer resolution on windows 11 at all
and that has nothing to do with USB handling
>>108619850
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/107992484/#107996200
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>>108618693
>Not strong enough for path tracing. I'm saving for 6090

And I am correct to assume you do in fact own a 5090, right? I mean, it's not like you are just making wild, false claims about hardware you do not actually have any experience with, is it?
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I'm going to sound like a random hyte shill but the Hyte X50 is fucking cool, my PC looks fucking weird/cool and has great temps.
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>>108619986
I think it looks like a Fischer Price toy but whatever man, if it has great temps who cares
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>>108619991
It does but I like it
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>>108620006
>I like it
All that matters, I'm happy for you.
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>>108619138
>that'll be $999 for the special edition, gweilo
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>>108620006
I wanted to buy the Phanteks Evolv s2 but I am sure the thermals of it are bad, so I am still using my NZXT H710i, I see no reason in changing it
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>>108619896
i watched 2 knowledgeable youtubers talk about this issue in depth (20+ mins videos)
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>>108620096
Ah, youtubers definitely are unbiased and definitely never say whatever the fuck they want just to get clickbait views.
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>>108620118
>>108620096
What I should have said was:

Unless you own the graphics card, you're just speculating, you have no empirical evidence.
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>>108619138
This is just an appetizer for when they launch the 7800x3d am4 edition in Q4 2026
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How do I actually tell which of a build's fans are making the most noise when they ramp up? Bunch of other sounds in my house and a neighbor's AC unit can make it hard to tell sometimes. Specifically more of the humming type of noise since at least I know a pulsing whine that I hear is coming from the GPU specifically, so the rest of the sounds have to be others.

In a fishtank, which combination helps to feed the GPU more cold air and throw out the used hot air?
>more power to bottom fans (120 x 3)
>more power to side fans (140 x 2)
>more power to rear fan (120 x 1)
>more power to top AIO (120 x 3)
I keep that rear fan at 50% minimum and it only goes up to 70% or so even at CPU 100C, the idea being to encourage more positive pressure and also to not steal air away from the AIO when the CPU is hot. I really wish this MSI motherboard of mine had a temperature average option rather than tieing fan speed to CPU temp only.
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>>108620255
I usually just set all of the fans to a low frequency (like 25%) then go through each one at a time maxing them out to identify which group I'm tweaking, then tuning them down until your find just the right % to have it run at before it gets obnoxiously loud

Case fans aren't really meant to cool your system in a conventional method so much as they're just there to move the heat out, so really any case fan curves should be flat at the highest frequency before they become audibly annoying level to you. CPU temp spikes too unpredictably to let your case fans fluctuate based on it causing a lot of random ramp ups an unwanted fan noise all because you opened firefox or something is updating in the background
I've found having your cpu/aio coolers function the same up until the cpu hits 75/80c then ramping them up to 100% works well
So like my desk area is very quiet usually so my noctua case fans are all constantly running at 42% no matter what the cpu temp is
My aio's fans are running at a constant 45% until the cpu hits 75c, then it slowly ramps up to 100% at >= 80c

Another thing to keep in mind is if you've got a lot of case fans, having them run at the same frequency can cause some humming, so I'd try to slight vary up the frequencies
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>>108620255
>In a fishtank
You'd probably have to increase the bottom intake fan RPMs.
Spend some time adjusting the fan curve & RPMs in the BIOS or other fan monitoring tool to isolate the noisiest set.
Find the fan RPM to noise sweet spot first before you experiment with fan curves (ex: set horizontally straight fan curve while testing noise tolerable RPMs).
The fans don't need to run near maximum RPM until the processor temp is around 80°C.
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>>108620367
My case and AIOs were around the 35-45 in the 45C to 70C 1st temp range, I just recently tuned the bottom up to 45-55 so that they sit there by default because I notice my GPU's a little bit warm on more demanding games while the CPU is barely feeling anything.

And by "little bit warm" I mean I took it down from 67-69C to 66-68 with that tweak, at the cost of making the hum noticeable on idle desktop usage rather than near silent.
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>>108619986
It's so feminine looking though
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>>108620776
nigga programming socks originated on this board half these dudes probably posting with chastity cages on they pp
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>CPU: i5-12400F
>MOBO: MSI Pro H610M-S or Asus Prime H610M-CS D4
>RAM: White Label Chink Garbage: 2x8GB, DDR4, 3200Mhz, CL19
>SSD: White Label Chink Garbage: 512GB, M.2 2280, PCIe, NVMe, Read 3100MB/s, Write 1200MB/s
>GPU: White Label Chink Garbage: GTX 1660 Super, 6GB
>PSU: White Label Chink Garbage: Darkflash AT650, 650w, 80 Plus Bronze, Active PFC
Any second opinions here? I'm planning to finish ordering today.
This one for ~$860, or ~$980 with XFX Radeon RX 6650 XT Speedster Swft210, or ~$1010 with Gigabyte Radeon RX 7600 Gaming OC 8GB.
There are some other lower end options like 2060S and 2070 too, but they probably aren't that cost effective.
(Prices are after currency conversion from my shithole.)
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>>108621124
get a b760 motherboard instead for ram tuning and a 12600k at least and I'd take the 6650xt radeon if you can, but I think the cpu upgrades are more important long term
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>>108621124
Having access to DLSS is precisely why those other options cost the way they do, but you didn't post the local prices for those.
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retarded question, maybe, what should stop me from just gaming on a 4K 120hz TV that is actually good in size ("40+) that is probably cheaper than a "27 or so 4k monitor?
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>>108621173
your wallet
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>>108621173
The fact that you will now have to do it with a TV rather than a monitor. If you have the space for it, is all.
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>>108621212
im building a pc and my desk is basically at the side of my current TV (old 1080 sharp aquos "40 lcd), I've always just hooked up a HDMI across to my laptop and either watched animu there or sometimes play stuff I like to play with a controller instead of a keyboard,
So I was wondering if I should just do the same, but I Ignore modern technicalities that might fuck my experience, mind you im currently in a nearly 15 year old laptop and I also plan to replace my TV anyway, and I do play in consoles still so what my current laptop hand handle is very limited obviously, but I know it will obviously behave somewhat different
SO I was wondering if I should get both 4k tv and a monitor, OR just invest in a bigger than average monitor, I do like big screens, specially for single player games, and movies, and Im aiming for a more 1440p experience in gaming but the option is great to have
here's what I got so far
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4yBhg3
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>>108621252
budget ultrawide monitor for esports games + a 4k tv for single player games
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>>108621173
Neck
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>>108621173
Input lag
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ready your wallets, get the founders edition before the scalpers, get yours before the price hike
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The way things are going with hardware make gta6 running on switch2 more and more likely.
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>>108622127
Doubt this, Rockstar is too far into the development stage to change everything to work with the Switch 2.
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>>108622127
And why is that exactly?
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best looking build ive saved.

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