>>108616187
thats because your subscription needs to be 100 times more expensive before they start pulling a profit.
its over the for plebs. only governments and big business will be using AI

>>108616204
>thats because your subscription needs to be 100 times more expensive before they start pulling a profit.
When can we expect the AI services to go bankrupt?

>>108616204
I was happy to pay money. Just don't fuck me with rate limits. Not my problem if you can't make money, capitalism.

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>>108616187
>paying for AI

>>108616290
When Discord or Facebook does

>>108616204
>governments
In other words: my taxes will go to civil servants too lazy to do any real work.
Great.

>unwilling to pay cost via API access
>buy a massively subsidized service with a quota
>bitch about it

>>108616187
how come no one whines about whatever subscription openai/google or the chink offers?

>>108616462
Running AI locally still requires you to spend money for the hardware.

>>108617293
comes for free if you are a GAYMER thougheverbait

>>108617318
Even a 5090 is limited when it comes to LLMs, too little VRAM. The best local models are all 70B
Good for image gen though.

>>108617370
I mean, they aren't SOTA for enterprise usage but those local llms are pretty fucking neat still, got them to fix and implement some stuff on some random c++ abandonware from github, I have a surface level knowledge of python at best, I can just read error tracebacks and haphazardly try to fix stuff, not actually code stuff, and getting bugs fixed and features implemented on c++ is not something that would've taken me a few minutes to do, if I would've even be capable of, but that small local model did

>>108616204
>only governments and big business will be using AI
I miss the good ol' days when the only filter between individuals and institutions was having to interact with a retard.

their free messages seem to have dried up , i just ask two or three questions and i got cut off completely. chatgpt the same, all being choked off

>>108616187
LLMs are stupid expensive to operate. They're all losing money. Turns out, making a datacenter create something for $50 that your brain can do for the price of half a banana and a sip of water is a bad idea, but sunk cost fallacy rules modern tech.

>>108617370
running a local model on a 5090 would far surpass anything these "state of the art" models can do, even on the lowest paid tier. they're shoveling shit out the door because they know it's expensive to run the hardware.
Go download Gemma4-31b and you can get better responses, even without a gpu, it will just be slow

>>108618474
delusional
>Go download Gemma4-31b and you can get better responses, even without a gpu, it will just be slow
this is about as capable as Haiku, Anthropic's budget model

>>108618497
>Anthropic's budget mode
that's what I'm talking about. low tier is still complete shit and they're selling it to you like it's their best stuff.

How can I get Claude to hack anthropic and steal more usage from them

>>108616344
Not their problem if you want no rate limits.

>>108619279
Did you know people can just be paid to lie?

>>108619279
If you pay for Max it's very doable. I went from being careful to judge the merit of requests to Claude on the Pro plan to actively trying to figure out how to keep it busy with Max.

>>108619279
>Kirkenuinely
reddit

>>108619305
>200 burgers a month plan
ai is a powder keg waiting to go off and take others along with it

>>108616204
100 times $0 is $0.
Based Anthropic jannies taxing paypigs to subsidize the freeloaders.

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>>108616187
claudetrannies on suicide watch

>whine that no one wants to pay for AI
Anthropic isn't complaining about that. Almost the opposite. They complain they have too much paying users to serve and it's the fastest growing user base in history so they can't scale up fast enough to serve anyone.

To give you some indication, the user base has doubled every month for the past 28 months in a row.

>>108616187
Haha, their logo is a butthole.

>>108621032
Costs scale linearly with users, the more users they have the more loney they lose.

>>108617370
You can run 70B on a gaymurr CPU. It needs a good CPU but with 64 or better 128gb of ram it'll be fine

>>108617370
Gemma4 shits on every 70b your info is outdated as fuck by literal weeks

>>108616204
In 5 years a normal GPU will have enough VRAM to run AI and all these companies will go bankrupt.

>>108618403
just one free message today , and i ran out , fucking hell , when i first started using it seemed like i was getting free tokens. they hook you just like a drug dealer and then dial it in. Next they will be coming around to my house asking for money for all the free stuff the stuff they gave me the last few months

>>108621169
The commodification of AI is real but we see that the top model is the one that rakes in all the money. As long as the top of the line model is a step change over whatever people can run locally it will be a viable business case.

>>108616290
Never because governments have infinite money (see: they can take as much of yours as they want whenever they want to) and AI is exceptional for producing and distributing propaganda.

>>108616187
pay up, cuck

>>108621702
You also see anything that can adequately run on modern home hardware completely vanish as a business category except for the top few people, companies, etc. We hit that with goonerslop "art commissions" years ago thanks to Stable Diffusion. We're going to hit it with programming soon. Once open source code agents can replicate Claude Code with Opus 4.6 in terms of "superpowers", planning Skills, etc. then we just need one open model to catch up to Opus 4.6 programming capabilities and poof goes Microsoft's whole AI market strategy... and probably 80% of Anthropic's users. Whatever Anthropic is hiding behind the curtain now had better actually be a goddamned AGI or the government is not going to pay them enough shekels to make up for everyone realizing a Framework Desktop or Mac Studio gen n+3 with open models lets them run code wizards on their desk for less money.

>>108621903
Never used claude but all I would want as a programmer is a slightly better completion engine. I don't want to upload my code to a third party. In 5 years I will have a completion engine AI completing the line of code I'm typing or maybe the next 3 lines and that will be good enough. I will never use some shitty algorithm to write code for me, it can however make typing faster.

>>108621937
It's very clear you never used Claude. No serious software engineer writes code by hand anymore. You just describe the stack, the ticket and the solution you have in mind in 1-2 sentences and it'll just implement it for you.

The "software engineer" part just means you have enough subject knowledge to describe the problem and can evaluate that it's output is sensible. It's why most junior roles are going away while seniors persist. You need the knowledge and experience to get coding models working right now without it generating slop.

>>108622013
It's very clear you're a html monkey and of course a dumb AI could do your job and you wouldn't notice the difference since there are no performance or security expectations. It just changes the button colour and adds unnecessary extra css, but it doesn't matter to you because that shit doesn't matter. But I write algorithms, I'm the guy that codes the AI that idiots like you use, no AI can do what I do and it never will. It's mathematically impossible. But you wouldn't understand because you don't know what an ill-posed problem is and why AI cannot solve it.

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>>108622013
>No serious software engineer writes code by hand anymore
Yeah, except when yesterday I was trying to use a relatively niche library and ti started hallucinating API calls that don't exist left and right.

>>108622235
So you should have vibe extended the library with the new vibe functions.
It's like you don't even want to wear the 14 pieces of flair.

>>108622074
Sounds like a skill issue. If you can't get AI to write and implement an algorithm from just 1-2 sentences it means you aren't experienced enough yet. Juniors like you tend to struggle with this which is why the industry is moving away from juniors.

Instead of delegating tasks to juniors it's way more effective to just spin up a couple agents that independently explore some potential solution paths you lay out for it.

You lay out your stack, the algorithms you want to apply to the problem and the complexity you expect the solution to be and it nails it.

>>108622235
Rookie mistake. Load the manpage or documentation into the context window in Claude code. Hallucinations have been fixed for a while already so I'm pretty sure it didn't happen yesterday but instead 6 months ago.

>>108622285
Do you believe in mathematics?

>>108622310
Do you believe in Terrence Tao's thesis that mathematics will be the first field to fall to full AI automation before 2030?

>>108621110
>takes 10 minutes to answer a "hello"