>>108619596
Hardware decode vp9 and av1 video.

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this has started causing me bottlenecks with basic office work in the last few months

Bruh I just ask my dad to buy me Diablo 4 and it runs smoothly. If your dad can’t even buy you a nice premade from sears your life sucks. My rich dads got tons of money. I get to eat McDonald’s 3 times per/wk. your poverty build might be good for your job ahahahahahahaha go guap it up ahahahahahahaha hahaha hahaha HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>108619621
Windows or Linux software?

>>108619643
windows 10

>>108619596
>Is there something you absolutely can't do with year 2014, 4-core Intel Haswell?
not if your standards are low and you're very patient
>I just picked up Haswells for 20 euro
today I bought nike victori one slippers for $40, kind of funny that my slippers cost more than your computer

>>108619596
OP you sound largely clueless about technology. GHZ hasnt mattered since 2500k. its all about architecture. haswell doesn't even do >>108619600

I daily an Dell Precision T3500 with a hex-core Xeon X5690, basically a top of the line first gen core i7 and it handles everything I throw at it. I don't game on it anymore, however. I recently pulled a Dell mid tower out of the trash with an i7-4770 and I'm keeping it on hand as a spare since the processors have damn near identical performance.

>>108619600
This is true, so if you need those you'd have to get a GPU to handle them.

>>108619621
The bloat is real.

>>108619639
I was under the impression mcdonalds was a poor people restaurant hence all the blacks going there

>>108619683
and most modern gpus expect you're plugging them into pcie 4 or higher board not pcie3. most people getting 5000 series driver issues are because their board is incompatible with that pcie device and they are so old they never got a bios update for it.

>>108619674
of course gigahertz matters, do you understand that 3.5 GHz haswell is faster than 2.2 GHz haswell?

>>108619705
only laptop variants are doing 3ghz. the desktop ones are doing 4+ ghz and that point you're hitting diminishing returns hard for the architecture.

>>108619596
That's too slow for me though I'm very happy with my 10-core skylake from 2020
I don't need more than this

>>108619695
Keep guapping it up lil gup shawties fat ass at McDonald’s is getting that junk in her trunk from guys like me who can afford. I never leave the house with less than $155 in my wallet just in case.

>2500k
>HD5770
>8GB
>SSD
>xubuntu
It does everything from web browsing to video playin'. Don't need anything else but it would be nice to have something for the next 10 years. Feels like my current PC is running on borrowed time.

>>108619738
I bet they have plexiglass in your mcdonalds kek

>>108619785
McDonald’s is actually like a hub center. You noticed part of the equation smith. They design more than just the glass, it’s actually all designed by globohomos pyramid corp in the middle section of the pyramid of power. I can go into some details. Recursive technology and design philosophy is witnessed from top to bottom. What’s really going on when a plant stretches out its leaf? Why’s it doing that. Because, there’s other plants trying to eat too. And, this plants a huge dick about it, some people just want to watch others suffer. They applied this philosophy to McDonald’s industries floor plan at a modular level. Pyramid corps studied plant and animal life to its endpoint and sent their knowledge to societies architects. The Freemasons and Illuminati work for pyramid industries. You walk into McDonald’s, that’s a lion in the den. They immediately grab you by your dick, to assert dominance. If you don’t feel your dick bring grabbed by the devil mere seconds after entering McDonald’s, you’re more than I was ever expecting. Booth technology, everybody loves it. Until you see people fucking in the booth. Now it’s animal time bud and the violence is coming. Open floor seating plan to face your neighbours, saves on guards. Now you become the guard for McDonald’s. If you want to piss you better ask Indian slave nicely. And everyone’s listening. Because that doors locked up. Everybody loves to shart at the mart, until you find crack heads washing out their sphincters in the urinal. Look the metaphor keeps going, I study this part time. But I’m about to hit character limit. Our time is short brother, walk with me down this back alley for a moment. Take these pills. You need to take every pill buddy, everybody loves to take them.

>>108619596
for personal use or work? work highly depends what applications you use. could be anything from a shitty laptop to a $20,000 workstation. For personal use nobody needs anything more than any midranged phone

>>108619596
I don't want to spend 9 hours compiling code.

>>108619596
local-models anything (mostly for search)
but you’ve described my Linux box running Debian and it’s kind of OK if you’re OK with 4K@30Hz (I am, as a tertiary computer)

>>108619596

>Haswell also includes very Linux compatible GPU innit.

Nah. Crocus is mid, and hasvk is dogshit.
Pair it with a GCN 1.0

>>108619596
You seem to have discovered the ruse. That there is no fucking point to upgrading past anything 2015 where we peaked. There is no workload other than gaming with eye candy on that an older machine can't do. It's literally just new-shiny syndrome for retards.

>>108621093
Hasvk is fine

>>108619596
Modern websites with JS

>>108619596
As an active user of n4000 I can assure U that even 2 cores are fine.
Basically to run retarded shit like >>108619600 you just need hardware acceleration slapped on very same cores and whoalya - n4000 will become n100.
Also, on top of having 4 cores and hw acc you want to have at least dual channel ram. For example I can play some music and at same time open a new (browser) window and hear music stutters because of single channel memory.

>>108621684
A haswell is 10 years ahead of n4000 in performance

>>108619596

Not really, I still run an X79 LGA2011 MB/CPU with DDR3 memory, granted it now has the best Xeon available for that generation.

the only REAL pain point I have is AVX support, I can't imagine a "regular" user having any issues a modernish sub $200 GPU wouldn't solve.

>>108619650
Windows is too bloated now

Given the most common use of a PC I have now I just need a Chromebook (I would HATE it but I wouldn't be helpless).

>>108619596
Most things, this is a web browsing & office only build now.
Of course there's >>108619600 which you will need for high quality video.
You also can't play newer games anymore without low framerates and massive stutters. My 2500k stuttered in 2017.
You CAN edit video and code but it will be really slow >>108620431.
It's too slow for local AI to be usable.

It's fine if you want to do very little.

I video call my gf while a video is running and playing a casual game. I run local AI or render video while also doing some of these things. I also play demanding games while on video call while also streaming the game. Or I run a bunch of VMs...
This is stuff you can't comfortably do. >>108619724 This is a good answer. a 3700x would probably be fine too. Around there is the sweet-spot for having a system that can do anything fine while still being old and cheap.

>>108619621
i daily drive an i5 3470 PC at work, it just works

>>108619596
Ray tracing
>>108619600
Pity that people built Haswell machines in 2015 and didn't wait for Skylake for this feature

I've been thinking about upgrading my CPU for a few years, currently using a 9700K for x265 encoding takes fucking ages.
I'm not doing it too often but re-encoding a 4K remux to half the bitrate at "slow" speed took 28 hours.
Current DDR5 prices don't look that appealing so I guess I'll just have to live with it.

>>108622724
>9700K
*9900K

>>108619596
If you need PCIE lanes, yeah. Anything in a compute-heavy workflow will be running multiple PCIE hungry devices.

>>108622724
try to get your hands on a z690 or z790 ddr4 board and run a 13700k or similar on it

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I use one (my old desktop) as a home server.
Only limitation I run into is
>maxes out at 32gb ram
>transcoding 4k stuff doesn't work very well

>>108619596
I have a xeon 127something and it's very fast for normal use and old games. I don't think it would run modern games, but I don't play those. For everyday use is fast enough to not be a bother. I end up using it more than my newer laptop because it has almost 10 usb ports and 4 HDD connected to it.

>>108619695
i haven't been in a mcdonalds in like 10 years. drove by one and it looks so soulless from the outside. and its play area is like a 5x5 enclosed room. it looks depressing.

>>108622798
Yeah that might be an option. Does 13th gen work well with Windows 10 21H2? Seems like Ryzen 9000 has gotten performance patches for 11 that make a noticeable difference. Was looking at those CPUs as well but then I'd have the DDR5 issue.

>>108622863
yeah it works. if you encounter any issue, you can just run it with 8 p-cores only and it will still perform like 16 skylake cores

I've had a Q9550 (not even a Q9650) which I upgraded from an E6600 .. yeah. I had DDR2 RAM .. 4GB and 8GB
I had a dogshit ATI Radeon HD 5670 which I kept for FAR TOO LONG, could have switched to a GTX 750 immediately with a tiny bit of cash and voila suddenly no more retarded crashes and black screens AND EVEN wireless drops, yeah the GPU caused my internet to die. (That and the dogshit VPNs I had installed that were conflicting)

When I finally after way too long upgraded to a Ryzen 7 5800x and RTX 4060 and 16GB of RAM that's still considered low nowadays compared to 32GB ...

Everything was running smoothly on the seller's operating system ... till I had to install a bunch of programs(especially python coding) that slowed 50% of my PC ... and then I reinstalled

Before the python install and OS reinstall I could open Youtube pages in 0.1seconds(and with a youtube account) it felt like my computer was predicting my clicks. After the Python install it felt again like 1 second.
After the OS reinstall from some dogshit backwater OS with ads in my goddamn internet explorer and their own search engines ... it took Youtube 3seconds again to open a page like I was back in the dial up ages. Sometimes 5 seconds if a page was really stubborn and now it takes 10-15 seconds to get a video to play at 4K on a RTX 4060 when before it could instantly play it in 0.1s or less. since it's a fucking video, I'm not rendering it, there's no reason to not able to open a video and scroll through it like you do on your local machine with Media Player or VLC or whatever you use.

So it seems like software + Kernel/OS matters immensely. A clean install with no software from a trustworthy OS AND WITH an intelligent seller (god bless him) can configure your PC to run lightning fast.
I only had the PC running silky smooth for 1 week before I fucked it up by reinstalling all my dogshit programs and then completely fucking it up by reinstalling the OS.

So upgrades are a meme.

>>108622897
Q9550 runs at 3.8GHz, it's decently fast. Better than my Phenom II X4.

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of course they don't

nobody needs this

but it's 2026

and desktops are still here

so i guess somebody wants them

I swapped out the Haswell K for a low power Xeon and made a homeserver out of it.

>>108619621
what "office work"? that would normally be IO-limited

>>108619596
There is absolutely nothing I cannot do with a freaking Pentium 1 - in principle.

>>108619596
>AMD wasnt a viable option before year 2017
lol?

>>108619596
>Is there anything
Yes, there is no AV1 hardware decoding support.
You're stuck with software decoding which will throttle the shit out of your shit, bro.

>>108619683
Xeons are surprisingly kick ass.
I've been pretty happy with my X5570.

>>108621982
then stop installing slopware, duh.

>>108621484
This. I love ddr3. it just works for spreadsheets and internal use html/js apps

>>108621982
use Chris Titus

>>108619839
Now this is skizzo hours. I miss old 4chan.

>>108622957
Would a 240mm AIO be enough to cool the 9950X3D2? Asking for a friend haha...