>>108997069 Can't wait to get to my toast I put in the toaster at the start of my weeklong trip overseas, when I get back it should be as fresh and non-stale as it was when I put it in.
>>108996790 >>108997116 you have to understand, there are retards at every price bracket and you would be stupid to not extract value from every single one
>>108996790 The only thing that this pos updates is the amount of trackers that send your every move to some weird off shore server that sells it to everyone
>>108997134 The theory is that with IoT you can do things like the toast automatically starting to toast at the time you wake up so it's ready for when you go into the kitchen, because the alarm told the toaster you didn't snooze it, and the fridge confirmed you still have butter for your toast. Of course none of that has ever actually worked in practice, instead you get updates and restarts and the device bricking itself etc.
>>108998248 $400 is poverty tier. This isn't the year 1950 anymore. You can't do anything with this $400. $400 at 10% compounding over 50 years is 47k. You're not getting a 10% compound rate anywhere unless you're rich and can do private investments (then even the absolute tip-top best can't usually break 20% and typically over somewhere a smidgen above 10%). That $400 is infinitely better used to improve your immediate quality of life for the next 50 years (but this isn't that of course).
>>108998314 Good point. I would argue it's best to invest in every day objects that have a high return per dollar. Things that have decent quality and don't break after short time. High price is no guaranty for good quality and user satisfaction. Other thing is: Lots of tech products don't even improve life quality. Instead of buying an automated soap dispenser the money is better invested in high quality soap with natural ingredients and not buying this industrial corner cut soap slop.
>>108998416 Yes, absolutely. But there are classes of electronics and tools that definitely increase your life quality a lot. For example, maybe you like making bread at home, a breadmaker makes things way easier even though it's not needed. An AC is always a good addition if you have none, etc. Otherwise though, just investing in higher quality products is a great strategy. It will make you healthier, result in lower expenses over time due to fewer required replacements, and will make you happier. This means you'll live longer and have more energy to do things.
>>108998416 >>108998416 i like this perspective a lot. what are some purchases that you have made which improved your quality of life? for the first time in my life i have a stable income, and i am still learning to adjust. it feels weird not choosing the cheapest homebrand soap/bread/clothes. i'm not quite looking for smart toasters (yet?), but i would love suggestions on what is worth it.
>>108998593 This is a teach a man to fish kinda situation. You need to stick to a framework to figure out what is worth it for you personally, because it depends a lot about your lifestyle and personality. The primary goal is you should never come across a situation where you think "this is annoying" or "this is painful". A good yardstick for this is whether you feel like you want to stay in bed in the morning: ask yourself "why". Then see what solutions may exist for the problem. Typical reasons might be "ugh, another hot as fuck and wet as a pussy day, I don't wanna go to work!". Solution is obviously to control the environmental conditions. AC, dehumidifier (caveat emptor), lighter quality clothes (they're starting to make real linen clothes nowadays), etc. are good options. Maybe you constantly feel bloated, slow and tired. Check your stress and nutrition. Invest in better quality food first, if you can't hit the right micros, get multivitamins or other supplements. Is there something you really like to do, like a hobby? Invest in quality hobby equipment. Is there any chore you do every day that you always think how annoying it is so you put it off to the next day? See if you can find better tools or automated widgets to help with this. Once you have found something that works, invest in a higher quality version of what you found works for you and upgrade until you are satisfied with the result. That's the way I go about it at any rate.
And here's the easiest way to decide: if something makes you happy, invest in it. Regardless of what it is that makes you happy, from a shitty slop snack to premium soap or a sports car.
>>108998593 One of the best investments was a large quality stainless steal pot with decent weight for my small kitchen. I use it for cooking soups and stews from scratch. I buy organic food as best as I can and by cooking larger amounts I can meal prep resulting in higher time efficiency and am not forced to buy unhealthy high processed food for time saving. This way I'm able to live more healthy and can perform better at work and in life. If you don't have a freezer additional to your fridge I'd recommend that too.(for meal prepping) I have a normal fridge freezer combination(not this fake cheap one with fake freezer). The combination saves some electricity in the long run.
I want to give this toaster the benefit of the doubt Can you still use it by bypassing the touchscreen interface or simply without the touchscreen interface?
And/or
Does the touchscreen interface actually enhance the enduser experience in some way like providing more consistent toasting, or allowing you to monitor the bread temperature during the toasting process, or having some kind of automatic toasting shutoff to prevent burnt toast or the like?
>>108998293 >the toaster automatically starting to toast at the time you wake up Even in a perfect world that wouldn't work because someone needs to physically put fresh bread into the toaster.
>>108997264 I actually have a few appliances that are extremely overkill with IoT botnet bloat because they go on such deep clearance discounts that they beat out any of the shitty basic models naturally I don't use any of the botnet bloat, just the basic features
>>108998785 The idea is that you would put the bread in some kind of receptacle that feeds straight into the toaster. Like an automated breadbox, or that you would put the toasts the night before in the toaster and it would get toasted in the morning.
>>108996790 what I don't get is why the software is so slow to update. I can understand a general purpose computer having slower updates since you're probably changing a lot of shit, but shouldn't any embedded consumer device using very small software?
>>108996790 why are retards always complaining about their "Touchscreen Toaster SuckMyCock19372183" that cost $200 while they can easily grab a basic one at their local thrift store for around $8
>>108998248 People stack welfare and disability and buy toasters like this. That is the purpose of the system, to give money to retards to buy overpriced shit from people who are incredibly wealthy.
>invent the perfect toaster >decide "nah, actually, no one needs that" and just stop making it, trying to make more retarded toaster designs for decades for something that was solved technology
>>109002243 Crumbs stick to the bottom and turn to ash on regular toasters as well anon. It's easier to clean this one. Surface won't get rough if you actually clean it. You're trash. The only problem with >>109002198 is it's slower than toasters. Personally I have a toaster oven instead, it's a good in-between. Can do 6 toasts in 4 minutes.
The original toaster cost $22.50 when introduced in 1948.That's $311 in current dollars. So any toaster that costs more than that is an insult to your dead great-great-grandparents.
>>108997116 You are just too poor to appreciate the miracle of AI controlled toasting algorithms. My toaster is always learning what kinds of breads I toast and tunes the PID loop for optimized thermal management. It automatically uploads the telemetry to improve the toasting experience for other users and to inform authorized 3rd parties about my anonymized toasting activity.
>>109002915 >patent bro the shit's from 1950 >US 2,459,169 >US 2,459,170 >US 2,667,828 there are 3 patents and they are long expired i have 1 working, 1 broken and all i can say from tearing the broken one apart is nobody with the capitalistic logic would try to build this over the picrel
>>109002049 no they didn't just stop making it. the last time that company made that toaster it cost $79 no one wanted a $79 toaster when you could get a $9 toaster that made shitty toast but only cost $9. I have 4 of them.
my parents have a toaster with a touch screen and the place where the "3" is where you touch it stopped working. they can no longer toast anything with a temperature of whatever "3" stood for now.
>>108996790 anyone got that >twitter >screenshot that summarizes normalfags an ones buying IoTshit while actual tech guys have a gun loaded in case their printer makes a weird sound ?
>>109003297 Why does it need voltage if it's not electronic? What are the wires and springs for if not to get heated by electricity. It's certainly not a gas toaster, it's electric is it not?
>>109003316 You said it wasn't electronic and I'm asking you if it's an electronic toaster or something else because you said it's not but the ad implies it is in fact an electronic toaster. If it's not electronic, what is it.
>>109003328 I don't know why you're dodging the question. Like that. If it doesn't use electricity, what mechanism does it use for heating. Why even bring it up if you don't want to talk about it.
>>109003342 Anon said it used wires and charged coils. Those are electronic components and it seems like they're specifically joined in a circuit for the exact purpose of toasting the bread. The ad implies this and that's typical design. I asked what mechanism it uses if it's not a typical toaster design and he won't answer me.
>>109003419 >here's this diagram of these coils operated by a switch, all joined by wire in a circuit and it only works when it has voltage feeding the electronic components This is some "no true Scotsman" type bullshit. >it may be electronic but it's not true electronic I think that's bullshit. Something like heat pipes and gas, that is a non-electronic appliance mechanism. This is not.
>>109003524 I never said it was a magnet, I said it was a coil that is part of a circuit of components which are somehow both electronics but also not in your worldview. All I wanted to know what in what way is it not electronic, only to find out it most certainly is.
>>108998785 >>108998822 you sceptics simply arent wallace-and-gromit-maxxing enough yet. get on his level. you have to optimise your life to a series of rube goldberg machines before you start to see any real productivity gains. smart toaster is only the first step.
>>108998645 thank you actually, like unironically. this is fantastic advice, ill have a good think about it. weird how (when pursuing success) up to a point we are pushed to ignore our needs. minimalism and suppression are best when optimising for frugality and efficiency i guess. gotta learn to tune back in to being human. i think i will buy the free range eggs today.
>>109003548 The electronics within are what is responsible for toasting the bread. The electricity is what powers the electronics within. How is it not both electronic and electric driven?
>>109003691 i thought i could find any pcb picture or FCC filing ID and deliver some answer but nope my guess is it's probably some sort of riced RTOS on top of bottom of the barrel (i am guessing) realtek chipset
>>108998300 It toasts. You flip the bread manually. Looks nice. You can maim someone with it in ways you can't manage with a modern toaster. Cord made of powdered cancer. >>109000192 It's old cheap stamped sheet metal, it looks nice but that doesn't make it good. I still want one of those "radiant control" toasters from the 50s. >>109003053
>>108998307 You are fucking retarded. Those are nitrile gloves, not gloves that isolate. You need a much thicker rubber glove to isolate you from 230/400V.
>>109004426 >neoludditry it's not luddism, it's technoskepticism, but I know this is just going to be a fart in the wind because AIfags have latched onto that word they just learned about yesterday for some reason
>>108998719 >One of the best investments was a large quality stainless steal pot with decent weight for my small kitchen. If this is the best investment for you, I feel sorry for you. It's one of the most basic of things you own. >I have a normal fridge freezer combination(not this fake cheap one with fake freezer). Is Amerimuttland so bad that they sell you fake fridges/freezers?
>>109004412 It's also a Westinghouse when I thought it was M&B. Can't find the cord now, I assume it's in my lungs and blood. Tomorrow I'll clean it, find or make a cord for it, and toast something for /g/ if this thread is still up.
>>109004798 Slow because you do one side at a time. It's about half the wattage of a modern toaster so that checks out. I don't recall it doing a particularly good or bad job, but it's been a long fucking time, anon, so fuck if I remember. The rivets holding the mica boards together have corroded away, looks like one board is hanging loose so I may need to address that before I plug it in again. Original handles broke off at some point and were replaced with wooden knobs, I think this is common because I see those handles broken in a lot of photos looking at these old toasters. I'm surprised how much it's rusted since I last thought about it. Looks like I won't be finding a cord locally or easily, I'll make or ghetto-rig something for it tomorrow.
>>109004835 I see, that's kinda disappointing actually. I would have thought that with fewer regulations, this could heat up much faster (per side). Ultimately one side at a time is OK anyway because it makes it usable for things like bagels as well. Modern toasters supposedly allow you to disable one side ("bagel mode" and such) but that never works right.
>>109004844 Sometimes old things are shit. It's cool that it's a metal toaster and all but they were really cheaply made, from cheap castings and stampings with old, shitty alloys. They last only because there's very little to break, it's just a nichrome wire connected to mains voltage. Steel corrodes, zinc corrodes, cheap castings are brittle, thin sheet metal warps, plenty of old stuff was shit despite the vintage charm.
>>109004921 Yes, that's why I was asking for details. I know full well that not everything was rainbows and unicorns. Still nicer to have something not quite as good that never breaks over something that is slightly better but needs to be replaced every few years, though.
>>109004950 Personally I love the thrill. Will the toaster toast my toast today? Will it pop up? Will it burst into flame? It's been down awhile did I set the knob right? Okay it's definitely been down too long I should check on that. Oh, it popped already. It's stuck because it's filled with a pound of breadcrumbs that never reach the little cleanout tray. This bread isn't toasted at all. I'll leave the dial where it was and put it in for another round. Why won't it stay down now? Okay it's toasting. Okay it's immediately burning. Oh it's burning a lot please stop why won't you stop toasting I hit the button just stop fucking toasting it's toasted already STOP TOASTING GOD FUCKING DAMMIT WHY DO I EVEN EAT FOOD