You're saying he was sinless

>>18426654
>Pretends to not understand things like a leftist

He was wrong in the sacramentarian controversy

>>18426650
Martin Luther the patron of Germany.

VON DER JUDEN UND DER LUGEN is too long

>>18426650
Luther the Betrayer. Luther the Deceiver. Luther the Heretic. He brought shame to the Church where none existed before. Mayne his suffering equal his betrayal.

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>Luther the Betrayer. Luther the Deceiver. Luther the Heretic. He brought shame to the Church where none existed before. Mayne his suffering equal his betrayal.

>>18426761
BUMS AGAINST THE WALLS LADS, FATHER O'LAFFERTY'S IN THE THREAD

>>18426650
Martin Luther loved the bible verses Romans 3:21-28 so much, because it supported his view of salvation through faith alone, that he intentionally mistranslated it to try to make his argument stronger.

Here's an accurate translation of verse 28
>For we hold that a person is justified by faith apart from works prescribed by the law.

Luther on the other hand wrote
“So halten wir nun dafür, daß der Mensch gerecht werde ohne des Gesetzes Werke, allein durch den Glauben.” Or, in English, to the original line, “For we hold that a person is justified by faith apart from works prescribed by the law,” Luther added the word allein, or “alone,” so that it read, “For we hold that a person is justified by faith alone apart from works prescribed by the law.” Not what Paul said, tsk tsk. Railing against indulgences is not a justification for taking liberties with the bible.

>>18426785
Paul's fan fiction shouldn't even be in the Bible.

>>18426785
Stop being butthurt he whent for the hermeneutic approach instead pussying out and saying its an allegory like the papists would.

>>18426650
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I NEEDED THOSE INDULGENCES FROM THE RETARDED GOYIM TO PAY FOR MY FOURTH PALACE!!!! FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU

The monergism was pretty cringe.

>>18426650
>NOOOOO YOU CAN'T PERFORM SERVICE IN THE LANGUAGE OF THE PEOPLE
>NOOOOO YOU CAN JUST GIVE THE COMMUNION IN BOTH FORMS TO THE LAITY
>NOOOOO THE CHURCH IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE GUIDED BY THE APOSTOLIC WRITINGS, YOU ARE FORGETTING ABOUT OUR ORAL TRADITION

>>18426669
Could you please explain how withholding the chalice from the laity (against Christ's explicit commandments) is according to God's will?

>>18426650
He wrote music and thought reformation was cool up until the point it started to upset the secular order of things instead of giving Italians headaches.
Also he seemed to like the jews up until they told him to fuck off at which point he does n't anymore.
In conclusion, he was a fat nigga and also he didn't do anything Jan Hus didn't.

>>18426909
That wasn’t the sacramentarian controversy
https://www.bibletruthpublishers.com/the-sacramentarian-controversy-1529-a-d-chapter-37/millers-church-history/lbd16064

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>>18426972
>he didn't do anything Jan Hus didn't
He won.

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>>18426983
I can't believe it just took one german autist to kill an italian corrupt institution to the point it never recovered

>>18426785
Luther’s translation of the verse is an accurate dynamic equivalence. The meaning of the verse is that the sinner is justified by faith alone, despite the whining of papists. Luther defended his translation by showing many other writers across church history who also inserted the word alone into the verse, including Thomas Aquinas. To change the words of scripture to change their meaning is ungodly, to change the words to show their meaning is pious.

>>18426983
Hussites are still around (the Moravians, specifically), if that's what you refer to.
>>18426987
Wht are you even talking about?

>>18426989
That the catholic church never recovered after the reformation.

>>18426996
ngl GDPschizo "You'll die of peak meth in six months." sounds like a 15 year old's parody of your theories.

>>18427003
Plus didn't he say this like 2 months ago? He needs to update his script, peak meth isn't 6 months away it's now 4 months away

>>18427006
Real OG's remember when we were all supposed to be dead of peak oil a year ago.

>>18426987
>>18426990
The Catholic Church is still alive and well.

>>18427113
The beast lost his kingdom. Europe was freed

>>18426650
Luther is my favorite reformer. he seems like a real person you could banter with.

>>18427114
All this vitrol against the Church sounds childish. You sound like an atheist.

>>18427148
Not an argument.

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>>18427113
Maybe in bolivia and the philippines

>>18426775
>>18427509
You guys noticed how salty søyteens get over the Catholic Church?

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>>18427512

There's no such thing as TND Christians.

>>18427553
Is TND what i think it is?

>>18427773
total n*gger death

>>18426988
>To change the words of scripture to change their meaning is ungodly, to change the words to show their meaning is pious.
this is mere sophistry, it's just a fancier of way of saying the bible means what I want it to mean, and therefore its ok that I changed it to reflect that. It is arrogant to think you alone can know that.

to be honest I don't even have many theological disagreements with Catholicism beyond maybe the focus on mary in art (I think other saints should get more attention too). I just hate them because they're foreigners.

>>18427792
No it’s not, this is willful intellectual dishonesty. I think you would not complain like this if one of your papist priests said “what Jesus means is this or that”, as any explanation of any scripture will by definition be non-identical in word to the text being explained. Again, the actual meaning of Romans 3:28 is that justification is by faith alone, and Rome’s heretical dogma is completely indefensible on the basis of scripture, which is why she has assaulted the authority of scripture in order to silence it and substitute her own self for it and make herself the judge in her own trial.

>>18426761
If you want to see what the past was like, you can look at Africa today. Its like a lens into the past.

In Africa today, priests are fat while people starve. Thats Catholicism.

>>18426650
elect gang reporting in

how many great minds have been wasted on religious hairsplitting?

>>18426669
Jesus said this is my body, not this is my spirit.
Luther was objectively in the right, Zwingli was a heretic who rejected the word of God.

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The protest of the Protestants was fully justified, the self-blinding of the catholic leadership was rejection of spiritual discernment and abandonment of Christ's purpose.

>>18428318
>Jesus said this is my body, not this is my spirit.
>yeah, I believe this has literally anything at all to do with the Reformed interpretation
Don’t quit your day job

>>18428411
What do you mean by this?

From the earlier posted text
"I protest that I differ from my adversaries with regard to the doctrine of the Lord's supper, and that I shall always differ from them. Christ said, 'This is My body.' Let them show me that a body is not a body. I reject reason, common sense, carnal arguments, and mathematical proofs. God is above mathematics. We have the word of God; we must adore and perform it."
"No consideration shall ever induce me to depart from the literal meaning of these words, and I shall not listen either to sense or reason, with the words of God before me."
Luther, in regards to the physical presence of Christ in the Eucharist

Arenot prottie churches full of lesbian bishops?

>>18428693
>What do you mean by this?
I mean nobody ever said Jesus said or meant “this is my spirit”. Zwingli did not say this. Calvin did not say this.
Luther’s comments are unrelated.

>>18426980
>is

>>18427553
There are PND Christians though.

>>18430046
PND stands for???

>>18431734
Not fat enough, the real Luther would rotund and burly, from all the beer he drank.

>>18431737
>A rotound and burly rebel priest that drank beer was able to kill Rome's church

>>18431751
Indeed, hours in the Wittenberg beerhalls made Luther a master of the ancient martial technique of drunken brawling. It's why they never bothered physically arresting him.

>>18426990
The iron legs became a divided iron and clay feet.

>>18431378
Protestant Non-Denominational

>>18431752
WTF is that real?

>>18432942
Well germans and scat go hand in hand

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>>18426761
>He brought shame to the Church where none existed before.
Really? That is not what Pope Francis believed:
>I think that the intentions of Martin Luther were not mistaken. He was a reformer. Perhaps some methods were not correct. But in that time, if we read the story of the Pastor, a German Lutheran who then converted when he saw reality – he became Catholic – in that time, the Church was not exactly a model to imitate. There was corruption in the Church, there was worldliness, attachment to money, to power...and this he protested. Then he was intelligent and took some steps forward justifying, and because he did this. And today Lutherans and Catholics, Protestants, all of us agree on the doctrine of justification. On this point, which is very important, he did not err.
https://www.ewtnnews.com/vatican/full-text-pope-francis-in-flight-press-conference-from-armenia

>>18433797
But he didn't say simon says before he issued that statement, so ex cathedrically it holds as much theological weight as him saying juventus is the GOAT football club

>>18433834
Nevertheless, that's a pretty big point of contrast between the pope and a Roman Catholic.

>>18433834
>protties are bad because they don’t follow the pope
>now here’s why I don’t have to follow the pope

>>18434617
Roman catholic really sounds so fucking heretic

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>>18426990
>That the catholic church never recovered after the reformat-ACK

>>18435000
Memes are so funny, but Germany was the Center of combating popery trash