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>Catholics don't worship Mary!
>We just kneel in front of a giant statue of her, clasp our hands together and lower our heads like in prayer, make offerings to her, praise her as divine and flawless, and beg her to perform miracles for us
Come on
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>>18429605
Catholics are not and have never been Christian
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erm she's not a goddess, she's just our holy mother and the Queen of Heaven™
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>>18429605
>“We oppose Greco-Roman paganism”
>Looks inside
>Liturgy is in Latin, the language spoken by Roman pagans. The New Testament was also originally written in Greek, the language spoken by Greek pagans.
If they truly opposed paganism, then they should suppress all gentile languages and force Christians to exclusively speak in Hebrew. Yes, religions have monopolies over languages and Greek and Latin are exclusively pagan languages, not Christian ones. The only language Christians have any sort of claim to is Hebrew since that was the language of the Israelites.
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>>18429732
Also, may Vishnu/odin be Praised!
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>>18429605
>>18429638
>>18429675
Indeed.
>>18429732
Enjoy Hell.
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>>18429772
Vishnu is but another manifestation of Yahweh-Typhon. Fuck off
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>>18429605
>Catholics don't worship Mary!
Uhh yeah we do actually, seethe about it.
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>>18429638
El Trumpo, I CHOOSE YOU!
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>>18429605
This is the pussy Sam fell from heaven for.
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>>18429605
>begging the question of what worship actually entails
not an argument
>appealing to your own incredulity
not an argument
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>>18430543
It’s not begging the question it’s the bible’s answer. You are an idolater according to the bible.
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>>18430543
The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead their dough, to make cakes to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto other gods, that they may provoke me to anger. Tick tock.
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>>18430791
Which Catholics do you know that make any grain offerings, let alone grain offerings to the Virgin Mary?
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>>18431178
>it's not worship if this specific offering is not made
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>>18431189
YOU posted the verse that is not applicable to Catholic practice, not me. Learn how to argue a point. People on this board are so fucking stupid now. Shit makes me sad, man.
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>>18431196
It’s applicable because you are idolatrous worshippers of the queen of heaven.
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>>18431201
The question at hand is what does and does not entail worship. Lauding the Virgin Mary as the genuine queen of heaven, as opposed to the false queen of heaven of the Old Testament, is not worship. You have to prove that it s through citation of scripture. This is how an argument works.
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>>18431203
>The question at hand is what does and does not entail worship.
The idolatrous hymn in this image >>18431201 is worship.
>Lauding the Virgin Mary as the genuine queen of heaven, as opposed to the false queen of heaven of the Old Testament, is not worship
It is worship since it ascribes to Mary the status of a god and the corresponding praises.
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>>18431206
>The idolatrous hymn in this image >>18431201 is worship.
Source? Where are hyms described as worship in the Bible?
>it ascribes to Mary the status of a god
Where?
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>>18431224
>Where are hyms described as worship in the Bible?
Are you seriously being this daft? I don’t think this merits reply, just everyone come and see the intellectual dishonesty of idolaters.
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>>18429732
Yet not a single christian text has never been written in Hebrew since the beginning of Christianity. Even the Jewish apostles who wrote letters to the Jewish exiles in the new testament for some reason also wrote their letters in Greek.
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>>18431196
They burn incense to her, they light candles to her, they set altars to her, they erect shrines to her, they make vows to her, they have entire days where they parade her statue around the street like one would a king.

They say they don't pray to her and only ask for intercession but anyone who has heard one pray to her know they do ask her for things like she was God herself. In a moment of need or danger it is her name they invoke and ask for help, in their times of blessing it is her they thank first.

To a whole lot of Catholics Mary is the center of their lives.
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>>18431849
Yes, so therefore their claims of opposition to paganism are lies since they chose to write in gentile languages rather than in Hebrew.
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>>18429605
trvke
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>>18431261
>I don’t think this merits reply
You probably feel that way because you can’t reply with an actual argument. Is singing a song that amounts to an ornate and reverent form of “you’re so awesome lol” ever described as worship in the Bible? No. You feel like it is worship. You want it to be worship, but it is not.
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>>18431849
No one spoke Hebrew in 1st century Judea so it's not surprising. Hebrew was exclusively liturgical by that point.
Jesus probably ministered in Aramaic.
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>>18429605
This is what God meant when he said to destroy their high places where they worship their gods?
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>>18432135
Is Revelation 5:8-14 worship?
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>>18429638
I saw that one in the Prado Museum. It's even hotter in person.
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Why are men such simps that they MUST have a goddess, at least virtually? They must have their cake (monotheism) and eat it too (super mommy who loves me more than my real mommy also she's white as snow).
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>>18432362
Hezekiah even had to destroy the bronze serpent on the cross that Moses made to heal Israelites because people started to worshipping it. I doubt they meant that they loved the serpent bronze above all things like Catholics want to to believe is the only definition of worship. I bet what they were doing to that serpent is what Catholics call dulia.

Jesus said he had to be lifted just like the bronze serpent Moses made on the cross and now christians worship a bronze image of Jesus on the cross and God most likely hates it as much as he hated the worship of the bronze serpent.
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>>18432435
Amen.
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>>18429605
This is the altar of the average christian, Mary is the center of attention, Jesus is a secondary character and the Most High is nowhere to be honored.
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>>18434055
Catholics aren’t Christian
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>>18434055
It is funny how you can mock Jesus or God and it's like water off a duck's back but as soon as Mary receives anything less than total and unremitting 'veneration' it's all shrieks about how you've basically called her a whore
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Protestants say "Catholics aren't Christian" then turn around and worship money, Israel, and Donald Trump. Cringe ass faggots. Every accusation is a confession.
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>>18434101
Oh no, is Trump going after Mary now too lol
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>>18434094
They do realize Mary was 12 years old.
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>>18434106
>Not even bothering to deny it
You are quite literally and unironically the church of satan.
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>>18434121
You don't even know what a protestant is, it's just shorthand for any and every branch of post-reformation christianity you don't like lol.
>this presbyterian church has a lesbian minister, yet this nondenominational evangelical says that fags are all going to hell? HMMMM, CONSISTENT MUCH, PROTTOIDS???

I don't even know where you people come from to shit up this place with your gay denominational slapfights like it's the 16th century
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>>18434101
>seething about Drumpf out of nowhere
TDS
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>>18434164
Lmao keep slurping up the slop, choirboy.
>People unironically buying Trump-branded Bibles accusing anyone else of derangement
Your religion has been hijacked and you are in a cult.
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>>18434273
How many Drumpf bibles do I own João?
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>>18434273
>god's intervention is limited to catholic charities getting fedgov contracts to help illegal immigrants o algo
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>>18434101
That’s only American Protestants. Most European Protestants are far more sane
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>>18434277
>God's intervention is paying me $150 for a Bible and donating 10% of my income to Israel so I don't go to hell
Ok cultist
>>18434276
You personally don't matter when your leaders are the ones pushing this stuff. Yes, the richest and biggest denominations are your leaders. Yes, they speak for you whether you like it or not. Cry about it.
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>>18434290
>Yes, the richest and biggest denominations are your leaders
Does this apply when the pope says that muslims go to heaven to or is it back to simon says
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>>18434291
>B-B-But what about!!!
Didn't ask. As long as we're talking about Muslims, I'm pretty sure that paying White House-encouraged tithes to Israel's attempts at genociding southern Lebanon is not going to impress Jesus. But hey you do you, it's not like you actually know if you're a member of the Elect in the first place, you're just guessing.
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>>18434299
>Israel's attempts at genociding southern Lebanon
>2,100 deaths
stop posting like a histrionic housewife
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>>18434290
>You personally don't matter when your leaders are the ones pushing this stuff
Oh ok, so you’re not actually talking about anything that has to do with me you’re just seething uncontrollably about Drumpf for no reason because you have TDS
>Yes, they speak for you whether you like it or not
In your mind. In reality, this guy speaks for you.
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>>18434321
>Destroy all bridges and points of access to the outside world
>Fire upon any aid convoys that try to muscle through
>Bring in the bulldozers to raze the infrastructure
>Wait for the locals to starve
>???
>Buffer zone!
JD Vance (the only catholic in the administration) is singlehandedly stopping the bombs from falling btw. The only deity everyone else in that building worships is Khorne (aka Protestant Jesus) until they get tardwrangled out of it.
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>>18434325
>Nyo this has nothing to do with me, I don't believe in any of that crazy stuff, I'm just making 10 fucking threads at the same time to shill for the jew cultists who do!
You are selling your soul to the devil with every second you persist in this.
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>>18434344
You need to take your meds.
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>>18434347
You need to find real Jesus, good thing the Catholic church actually believes in the forgiveness of sins because otherwise these mistakes would render you irrevocably hellbound with no way out.
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>>18434353
May I burn at the stake a thousand times before I deny Christ by joining with the apostate church of Rome
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>>18429605
I don't see no animal or human sacrifice, carry on
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>>18434353
Fuck off with your popery, clown
Go back to handing out indulgences for molesting altar boys
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>>18434127
>gay denominational slapfights like it's the 16th century
This a chronically online LARPing phenomenon. Most IRL devout christians are ignorant about church history or christology.
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>>18429638
there goes the argument from sheer numbers, then.
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>>18430543
saying the hail mary is worship.
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>>18431178
lol, so worship can only exists in grain-farming societies? you are grasping at straws.
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>>18431203
>Lauding the Virgin Mary as the genuine queen of heaven, as opposed to the false queen of heaven of the Old Testament, is not worship.
it absolutely is.
>You have to prove that it s through citation of scripture.
who died and made you judge of what fairy tale can be used to prove things?
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>>18432432
Obviously the solution is feminine monotheism.
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>>18434922
The specific method of worship referenced in >>18430791 is a grain offering. Grain is used to make the cakes.

>>18434924
>who died and made you judge of what fairy tale can be used to prove things?
Probably the people who cite the thing you're calling a fairy tale as their only authoritative source for religious doctrine. In order to justifiably accuse someone of a crime, you must first define what a crime is and what a crime is not. If you're citing little more than your own musings as reasoning for an accusation then you're doing little more than name calling.

>anon is an idolater
>it was revealed to me in a dream that his actions constitute idolatry
>therefore I am right
You want to avoid this logic when arguing a point. Accusations need evidence, and "my ass" is not a source. This is basic stuff you'll learn in a high school debate class.

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