Bell Beakers

>>18433340
There was a massive back-to-Africa migration around 40,000 years ago. Thereafter, movement was generally from North-to-South, rather than vice-versa, hence the presence of R1b in Chad and the Caucasoid ancestry in the Horn of Africa and Sudan.

>>18433340
>like this
brown?

>>18433348
Bell beakers didn't look like this guy (feces colored skin people)

>>18433340
Some native nafris look brown like this because of the negroid ancestry

>>18433386
How mentally ill you have to be to consider Zidane ''feces colored'', you are a /pol/ reject with a completely diseased brain

>>18433418
it's actually hilarious that the supposedly cherrypicked "white" nafri is brown, like don't you guys have some blonde dude to cherrypick like any other brown country

>>18433418
>How mentally ill you have to be to consider Zidane ''feces colored'', you are a /pol/ reject with a completely diseased brain
he's literally an alien looking exotic brownoid

phenotypic variation. black irish also aren't part spanish. this stuff has all been debunked by modern dna but retards will keep believing it forever because it seems intuitive.

>>18433340
vandal blood is supposed to make you look white tho, not part black

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>>18433436
>>18433441
>>18433487
You are just deeply mentally ill after /pol/ has made your brain diseased, he looks as white as the white French in this photo, and no I'm no a ''nafri'' and couldn't give two shits about the american colorism you neurotic mentally ill rejects are obsessed about

>>18433508
he looks brown and has a brown facial structure, you are just brown yourself

>>18433508
he's a brown colored bulb headed narrow faced somali, so alien looking to europe he wouldn't pass as a local even with blonde hair and blue eyes

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>>18433508
>we wuz french looking and shiet

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>>18433513
>>18433520
He looks infinitely better than the average piggish featured amerishart, that's for sure

>>18433562
he looks good for a bulb headed somali not gonna lie

The swarthiest of Southern Europeans is infinitely more racially valuable than the most Nordic-looking North African or Arab. Nordicists are mentally ill subhumans.

>>18433587
he does not look nordic wft is wrong with you? he's literally some random brown kebab seller

>>18433592
More like what the fuck is wrong with the OP to consider him White. Even if he does have gayrmanic Vandal blood, does it matter? The turk may look "White", but genetically he is not and never will be.

>>18433592
If you didn't know Zidane was nafri you'd have just assumed he was a white French guy like the other white french in that photo, he looks no different than them, in fact he even has le blue eyes you shitlerites obsess about while a bunch of other French in that photo don't. This is why your /pol/ race ''science'' is just neurotic bullshit without any logic or meaning to it

>>18433603
I am not a shitlerite nor a /pol/tard, but he's a genetic shitskin. Southern and Eastern Europeans are more racially valuable than him.
Any questions?

>>18433603
>you'd have just assumed he was a white French guy
no i wouldn't lmao, he's brown

>>18433603
He doesn't have blue eyes and he looks 100% not white, he has the face structure of a somalian, trust me you are just a brown guy, insisting like this that he looks white is just brown wishful thinking, can't be explained any other way

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>>18433352
>Ancient North African eurasian vs Ancient East African nilotic cannibal
Kek Euros, Nafris and even West Africans don't believe there was Eurasian mutting in North Africa. When was the last time you've seen West African niggers claim the Sahelians are mutts let alone the Nafris saying they are mutts? They even deny R1b is Eurasian and believe the Rmt was Niger-Congo Nilo-Saharan negroids before they got mutted by Asiatic weavers. The only mutts are the Horners and they are really proud of it and will tell you in straight face E1b1b came from Eurasia they only get angry if you tell them they're low iq who couldn't build their Aksum or other retarded muslim "kingdoms" without Semites influence.

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>>18433821
since when do the nationalistic claims of people matter over facts?
pure berbers were saharawi-like niggas btw

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>>18433858
Kek Niger-Congos & Nilo-Saharans are not the true Berbers the Rmt painting unless you can pull the Indian-Euros and Semites fag cope of Nubian wig and Rmt paintings being not true representation.

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>>18433872
"Rmt paintings" are irrelevant, berbers those places around west egypt don't resemble actual berbers from northwest africa, was true in the past and it is still true today, not to mention that this a cherrypicked meme painting from a 1800 book, the original has colors that are barely recognizable, as many anons have informed us

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>>18433890
>>18433872
also i never said that neger congos and nilo saharans are the true berbers, re-read my comments
i said that ancient berbers were already africanized in the past and resembled modern saharawis (true)

also ydna of egyptian berbers if the autosomal wasn't enough, 0 e-m81

>>18433900
Kek ALL genetics papers found only a tiny i.e 10-15% nigger dna in North Africans and that's from the Niger-Congo Nilo Saharan slave trade. Again they are 10,000 years old pure race continuum. It's very sad Niger-Congo Nilo Saharan from the SAHARA don't even look like the Berbers of Western Sahara the Rmt painted. Big KEK L.
>Saar Niger river dry dry we had to migrate to Nile and leave our desert to Libyans
Kek

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>>18433940
>Kek ALL genetics papers found only a tiny i.e 10-15% nigger dna in North Africans and that's from the Niger-Congo Nilo Saharan slave trade.
Nope, all these samples >>18433858 have as much west african and they predate the slave trade, west african ancestry in northwest africa entered during the berber ethnogenesis or even predate the berber ethnogenesis somewhere around the early bronze age, original berbers were africanized as fuck and barely west eurasian and they resembled saharawis
>Again they are 10,000 years old pure race continuum.
absolute nonsense, see pic rel, by the neolithic northwest africa already had three major components (picrel)
> It's very sad Niger-Congo Nilo Saharan from the SAHARA don't even look like the Berbers of Western Sahara the Rmt painted.
i can barely understand what you're even trying to say, clearly your writing style indicates that you're a brown MENA, i'll repeat it for the last time, the egyptian paintings are useless garbage, borderline fake because they actually come from 1800s books, the originals are barely recognizable, cherrypicked because in many the "berbers" are depicted as brown, and lastly irrelevant to the actual berbers of northwest africa, those western egyptian berbers are basically unrelated to even tunisians
btw, since you have an extremely poor reading comprehension, niger congo people are irrelevant to the argument and i never ever mentioned them

>>18433953
>the egyptian paintings are useless garbage, borderline fake
Delusional retardation the Ancient Egyptian chronology is what underpins the Indian-Euro and Semites fag history.

>>18433969
>Delusional retardation
no it's actual facts, let me copy paste all the points about those paintings, the egyptian paintings are useless garbage, borderline fake because they actually come from 1800s books, the originals are barely recognizable, cherrypicked because in many the "berbers" are depicted as brown, and lastly irrelevant to the actual berbers of northwest africa, those western egyptian berbers are basically unrelated to even tunisians
>underpins the Indian-Euro and Semites fag history.
i have no idea what you're even talking about, indians and semites were never mentioned by me, you're very clearly a low IQ brown male
my point: berbers (the actual berbers from northwest africa, not some unrelated egyptian living slightly west of the nile that switched language) were already in the past saharawi like with strong african drift >>18433858
whining like a schizo about unrelated things i never even mentioned will not change that

>>18433340
The Vandals barely left a trace in North Africa because Justinian deleted them. More likely to be Roman blood.

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>>18433872
this is a reconstruction of a largely destroyed painting, the western egyptian libyans are depicted as dark skinned people in better preserved frescos

>>18433978
>my point: berbers (the actual berbers from northwest africa, not some unrelated egyptian living slightly west of the nile that switched language)
there's actually no proof that the western egyptian libyans spoke a berber language, the researchers only concluded that it's an afro semitic language

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>>18433988
>>18433872
more depictions of ancient northwestern egyptian libyans, a non berber speaking people

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kehek_language
>The language might also be the earliest example of a written down Berber, or Proto-Berber variety though its nature as a fragmentary text makes it hard to identify as anything other than Afro-Asiatic
>a very fragmentary Qeheq-language magical text now in the collection of the Museo Egizio in Turin. Here the text, which may be the oldest known Berber-language (or at least non-Egyptian and non-Semitic Afro-Asiatic language) text

here is the only living proof of the language of the libu people, a fragment of Kehek language, and it can't be recognize as anything other than afro-asiatic, it can't be recognize as berber, so we don't actually have any proof these people actually spoke a berber language

>>18433978
How about the Ancient Egyptians were they like SAHARAWI mutts too since they are group by genetics as North African?

>>18433996
>>18433988
why do berbers claim them if local berbers of the region don't resemble berbers and we don't even know if they were berber speakers?

>>18433997
because of we wuzzery, the egyptian state just needs to release a few samples and destroy this larp one and for all just like the punic larp was destroyed

>>18433996
It the same thing with Meroe yet it doesn't stop modern Niger-Congo Nilo Saharan to claim the Ancient Nubians/Kushites.

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>>18433997
>How about the Ancient Egyptians were they like SAHARAWI mutts too since they are group by genetics as North African?
they weren't, ancient egyptians didn't resemble saharawis, they're only grouped with other north africans on a geographical basis

>>18434009
can't answer your question, i don't know anything about niger congo people, but there's no proof the ancient libu/rmt of northwest egypt spoke a berber language, it's a total larp, the only piece of evidence about their language is the magical paper in kehek language and it's only recognized as afro asiatic

>>18434012
Kys Indian-Euro Semite delusional fag

>>18434017
not indian and not a semite, and your comment is not a in any way a refutation of my argument
ancient berbers before the arab slave trade already had a massive african drift and resembled saharawis, ancinet egyptians didn't at all and are only grouped with other north africans on a geographical basis

>>18433541
they're ugly as shit kek, they look like the israeli settler that looks like a caricature

>>18433562
He just needs to lose weight

>>18434104
They are as fugly as Egyptians who this fag >>18434027 thinks are different than Nafris.
>Muh Copts are different than Arabs
Delusional indian-Euro Semite fag are hilarious

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>>18434213
Kek. Look at these RMT

>>18434001
so they can pretend to be older than they are

>>18434213
>They are as fugly as Egyptians who this fag >>18434027 thinks are different than Nafris.
egyptians are different from northwest africans, that's not something i believe , this is a provable fact, how about YOU prove they are the same?
>Delusional indian-Euro Semite fag are hilarious
no one knows what this shit even means

>>18434656
>no one knows what this shit even means
It means you are NOT a Rmt you faggot wewuzzer

>>18434755
indeed i'm not, never claimed i am and i don't give a shit, low IQ mongrel, can't even comprehend my argument
my argument: berbers were always africanized and resembled saharawis, and i'm talking about the actual berbers in northwest africans not some "rmt" (not genetically berber and likely didn't even speak a berber language as many have pointed out) a few kilometers west of the nile

i backed all my arguments with facts, you didn't offer any counter argument

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>>18433610
>>18433612
We were talking about skin-tone since all of this started from some reject calling Zidane's skin ''feces colored'', not features, Zidane features are indeed a bit ''exotic'', his skintone is as white or even whiter than the other two white French to the left of him. Now in b4 ''French = white'' and this is exactly the neurotic bullshit you inane idiots waste your days arguing about, there's no logic to it whatsoever, in your hellish diseased worldview most French people are ''feces colored'' because they aren't albinoids like you. You obsess over nonsensical purity spirals because you are deeply mentally ill shutin losers

>>18434982
zidane is brown and has a somali tier face structure, he's not white he does not pass a french, even if he was blonde and blue eyed he wouldn't pass as french because of his negroid face structure, even the darkest french looks more european than him because they don't have that ethiopian face structure of his, you are brown as fuck and low IQ, there's nothing nurotic about it, you are coping brown colored man

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>>18434982
zidane is weird looking brown mongrel kek, i don't know how you could look at this guy and say he looks like a native french, honestly the more i look at him the more alien he looks, i doubt he even passes as a local in southern italy or iberia, he looks like that mexican serial killer Richard Ramirez that was probably like half native american

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>>18434997
>he looks like that mexican serial killer Richard Ramirez that was probably like half native american
LMAO it's true, they look the same wtf

>>18433340
That or Barbar slave ancestry

>>18435002
>>18434997
interesting, the strong similarity is undeniable

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>>18434989
>>18434997
Note how the polcels again fixate on his features and not his skintone where all this started, nobody irl would ever call someone with Zidane's skintone (which is lighter than the average nafri so not sure why you're always bringing up nafris) ''feces colored'' or ''brown'', because he has the same skintone as a lot of white French people. It's only you 3 mentally ill neurotic poltards on a dying board who can do that with a straight face, because again your mind is diseased by years of reading nothing but /pol/ brainrot

>>18435052
>his features
yes his clearly non white negro-mongoloid features, combine to that the fact that he's not even particularly depigmented, he has olive skin and black hair, and you get someone that is not white looking, he does not pass as a french, your point about him looking like a french person if i didn't know he was a nafri is nonsense, if i didn't know he was a nafri i would have assumed he was a mestizo

>>18435052
Zinedine Zidane looks brown

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>>18434797
>ancient Berbers were Africanized but NOT ancient Egyptians
The Indian-Euro and Semitic fags don't believe neither the ancient Berbers nor the ancient Egyptians were niggers who got replaced there's only one group who believes the Berbers were niggers mutts: Islamist Nigger Moors but Horners specifically Zoomalians do too. You are a Niger-Congo/Nilo-Sahalien cannibal your whole Green Sahara meme is a lie Nobody knows where you originated or where the Homeland of your Proto Nilo-Sahelian languages is you are the offspring of a Busman and Shemonkeys in Angola or Central Africa, the ancient Berbers have nothing to do with you and they didn't originate in Northwest Africa.

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>>18435361
>The Indian-Euro and Semitic fags don't believe neither the ancient Berbers nor the ancient Egyptians were niggers who got replaced there's only one group who believes the Berbers were niggers mutts: Islamist Nigger Moors but Horners specifically Zoomalians do too. You are a Niger-Congo/Nilo-Sahalien cannibal your whole Green Sahara meme is a lie Nobody knows where you originated or where the Homeland of your Proto Nilo-Sahelian languages is you are the offspring of a Busman and Shemonkeys in Angola or Central Africa, the ancient Berbers have nothing to do with you and they didn't originate in Northwest Africa.
nope i'm not a sub saharan african, i couldn't care less about the origin of the nilo sahelian or whatever the fuck of unrelated shit you're even talking about, berbers were africanized in the past and they were genetically similar to saharawis, see here>>18433858 see how i actually show proof for my arguments while you've yet to post something supporting your argument? you are a coping brown berber, i think i understand who you are, the coping brown berber living in britain, the same incoherent nonsense, you were never white, your ancestors were saharawi like, stop spamming useless wall of text devoid of any arguments, this has been proven by genetics

>>18434997
this creature doesn't have an european face structure

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>>18435361
you berbers look like african american lmao, pic rel are average coastal berbers

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>>18435393
>>Ancestral North African An ancient population that diverged from Sub-Saharan Africans around the same time as OoA humans and that isolated themselves in North Africa, clustering more with Eurasian groups than Sub-saharan groups
Kek nobody gives a fuck about your homemade meme distances if you have proof that ancient Berbers were truly SUB-SAHARAN AFRICANS then post the genetics paper that says so where the Indian-Euro fags who don't even believe ANAs were niggers are saying ancient Berbers were Sub-Saharan Africans.

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>>18435465
>Kek nobody gives a fuck about your homemade meme distances
they reflect the genetics of the ancient iron age algerians, here is the study proving it, they plot with far away from europeans and with modern northwest africans, shifted towards africa
> if you have proof that ancient Berbers were truly SUB-SAHARAN AFRICANS then post the genetics paper that says so
here the berber mongrel in britain keeps lying, i never said they were sub saharan, i said they were africanized and resembled modern saharawis, always this low IQ mongrel in britain lying constantly

how about YOU post any proof supporting you claims, post something that shows ancient berbers plotting with europeans, post something, anything

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>>18435472
>>18435465
here i prepared an explanation for you since you're insanely low IQ, perhaps this will help you understand that your berber ancestors were saharawi-like

>>18435472
>they plot with far away from europeans and with modern northwest africans, shifted towards africa
If they were "Africanized" and your Gayreek Egyptian weren't as your chart shows than post the PCA that shows not some Iron age you retarded faggot but Bronze Age berbers overlapping with SSA niggers.

>>18435491
>If they were "Africanized"
that is 100% correct
>and your Gayreek Egyptian weren't
egyptians also had some africanization, but less than berbers, here you are lying again, what i said about egyptians was that they were different from northwest africans , lying mongrel in britain see >>18434012
>they weren't, ancient egyptians didn't resemble saharawis, they're only grouped with other north africans on a geographical basis

>as your chart shows than post the PCA that shows not some Iron age you retarded faggot but Bronze Age berbers overlapping with SSA niggers.
speak english mongrel berber in britain
i never said that berbers overlap with sub saharans, always lying, i said that they were africanized and drifted towards africa like the sahrawis, as my pca from a fully released study shows, and iron age berbers are ancient berbers, they perfectly exemplify the genetics of ancient berbers

so let me repeat 2 points so you stop lying
1 - i never said that ancient berbers were sub saharans, i said africanized, drifted towards africa like the saharawis
2 - i never said that ancient egyptians were not africanized, to a much lesser extent than the ancient berbers they were too, what i said is that they didn't resemble berbers

i posted proof backing my claims >>18435477 ancient iron age berbers from algeria were africanized and similar to saharawis, now it's YOUR turn to prove that they didn't plot with modern saharawis but with europeans and other non africanized population, if you don't provide proof supporting your claim in your reply you lose the argument

>>18435495
Fuck off you lying ass bitch

>>18435501
i didn't say one single lie, you worthless mongrel in britain, quit wasting peoples time, you're not arguing, you're whining, you did not offer a single rebuttal in this whole thread, and as i said, if your reply didn't contain anything supporting your argument (like something supporting your claim showing ancient berbers plotting with europeans and other non africanized populations) you would lose the argument, and so you did, you're just a low IQ sack of shit, too low IQ to even understand what we've talking about, you're so low IQ you can't even be expected to understand a simple PCA, a simple genetic chart,

the fact that an ancient berber plots with modern saharawis, as proven by this pca >>18435472 is irrefutable

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Sar vi are mastar race 100% Aryan

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Zinedine Zidane looks brown and that's a good thing btw

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>>18435508
Listen faggot I don't want your lying ass bitch moving the goal post you said they were Africanized meaning they got NIGGER dna your saharawi mutt here has NIGGERB dna. Now either post ancient Bronze Age berbers who had 10-20% nigger dna before the Trans-Sahara slave trade. All I'm asking you is 10-20 overlap with niggers and I will conceed. If not you have to accept ancient Berbers looked like what the Rmt painted.

>>18435527
> they were Africanized meaning they got NIGGER dna your saharawi mutt here has NIGGERB dna.
africanized does not mean sub saharan african, you are the one that is lying, saharawis plot like people that are 30% african, not 100%, you are simply too stupid and low IQ to even understand simple percentages and are unable to comprehend intermediate concepts

>. Now either post ancient Bronze Age berbers who had 10-20% nigger dna before the Trans-Sahara slave trade.
iron age berbers are from before the transaharan slave trade retarded mongrel in britain, now THIS is moving the goal post, now you're pretending that the slave trade happened in the iron age, the algerian iron age sample is from 800 BCE, literally 200 years after the bronze age, worthless lying mongrel in britain, and several thousands of years before the slave trade

>All I'm asking you is 10-20 overlap with niggers and I will conceed. If not you have to accept ancient Berbers looked like what the Rmt painted.
the rmt paintings are irrelevant, as me and other posters have explained, you are a low iq lying piece of shit subhuman, the rmt paintings are cherrypicked, in most of them they were brown, they represent people that were not genetically berber and that probably didn't even speak a berber language, always lying, always, never mention those worthless 1800s reconstructions again

>>18435550
>>18435527
oh and btw, since i already posted proof that berbers from before the slave trade were africanized >>18435477 (800 BCE is several thousands of years before the slave trade, deal with it) it's now your turn to post proof supporting your claim showing ancient berbers plotting with europeans and other non africanized populations, you still haven't done that, a whole thread and you still haven't done that

>>18435550
I thought so. Lying bitch ass faggot always remember the North Africans are a protected Atlantean species NO nigger dna is allowed unless it's from Abeeds.

>>18435565
>I thought so.
you didn't thought shit, worthless lying berber in britain, iron age berbers are from before the transaharan slave trade, lying worthless goal past moving mongrel, that sample perfectly represents berbers before the transaharan slave trade, whether you like it or not

now it's really your fucking turn since i already posted proof that berbers from before the slave trade were africanized >>18435477 (800 BCE is several thousands of years before the slave trade, deal with it) it's now your turn to post proof supporting your claim showing ancient berbers plotting with europeans and other non africanized populations, you still haven't done that, a whole thread and you still haven't done that

>>18435527
this retard thinks the transaharan slave trade happened in the iron age lmao