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>"Islam works because it simply takes traditional norms from all throughout history and says YES! we are going to stick to these traditions! Seethe about it, cope about it, but we aren't going to compromise on these traditional norms"
>"Islam says NO we aren't going to follow this kind of secular liberalism, we are going to take simple concepts that have existed all throughout history and we are going to stick to these norms. Why? because all kinds of traditions and cultures have had these norms. Are all these civilizations wrong?"
>"Who says child marriage is morally wrong? these kind of secular liberals. But Islam says actually, YES! YES! it is healthy for society and is something that has been practised all throughout history."
>"Islam says NO we don't #believeallwomen, and in fact education is something that women have been prevented from in all civilizations and cultures. Islam simply upholds traditional and historical norms. You know who else prevented women's education? The Chinese! The Aztecs! so it's not only Muslims here. If Muslims are oppressive then call the Romans oppressive!"
>"If you want to target MUSLIMS as pedophiles then BE CONSISTENT! You must charge all ancient civilizations as pedophiles as well since they practiced child marriage"
>"Sharia law barbaric? BE CONSISTENT! call the Native Americans barbarians, call the Egyptians barbarians, the Persians, the Vikings! All these historical civilizations practiced similar punishments that Muslims are interrogated over today. Go ahead, call them barbaric!"
>"If Muslims are pedophiles for marrying young, then go right ahead, call all these civilizations pedophiles, how about the Sumerians!!? The Japanese. Are they pedophiles?"
>"All throughout history men have been heads of family, but all of a sudden this is oppressive to women? Traditional Christians, Jews, Hindus, Zoroastrians, Amish, are they also chauvinist? are they oppressive? BE CONSISTENT!"
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>>18436314
Being a quranist doesnt work because a lot of basic islamic tenets such as prayer, eid holidays, or morality originate from authentic hadiths.
That doesnt mean hadiths havent been disputed plenty of times (ibn hazm is famed for this in regards to music). But quranism is heretical much like liberal/maga variants of christianity.
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>>18435994
>Islam works because it simply takes traditional norms from all throughout history and says YES! we are going to stick to these traditions!
He skipped over the part where they can't agree on which are the "right" traditions so they keep constantly bombing and shooting each other.