HUMILIATION RITUAL

Every post below this is made by a permabeg.

>>7862982
Key. Funny thing is, though, I think that the quality of the individual drawings in these threads themselves are actually getting better and better, generally speaking. It's as if when we keep drawing, we improve with time.
What a mysterious coincidence, I must say.

>>7862987
Literally just a bunch of retards spamming low quality doodles, the fact that they haven't progressed in years is extremely funny.
truly a mysterious coincidence ol' sport

>>7862988
And you're one of them.

>>7862988
Quality posters eventually fuck off and the people who appear to have quality work are either dipping in momentarily or have some pathology that either precludes them from sharing works publicly or they want to surround themselves with other artists who won't challenge the gains they've scraped together. Repeat this long enough and you get /beg/, and frankly /ic/.

>>7862994
>sharing works publicly or they want to surround themselves with other artists who won't challenge the gains they've scraped together
Or they actually draw and use programs where people actually draw? i'm just here to punch down cause i hate zoomers.

>>7862985
Can't i have my own space? I don't get likes online so I just hope a few people would click on my drawing on 4chan to zoom and look at it for a second at least

>>7862995
Yes, that would qualify for "wants to surround themselves with absolute beginners to magnify the significance of the progress they've made." I mean, obviously this is unique to 4chan, but still.

>>7863000
Just stop, you are not a psychologist and you will never be, you will always be a retard. I just fucking hate zoomers and that has nothing to do with being surrounded with worse or better artists.

i also hate "artists", hair colored retards, cat owners, stupid faggots, insane leftists.

>>7863002
Lmao you don't need to understand psychology to understand that an anonymous environment simply encourages abusive behavior, you said so in your own posts, you're motivated by the thought of being able to freely abuse people around you. Combine this with the unique atmosphere of the anonymous art board, and yes, you arrive at the simple conclusion: people use this place because they're insecure about their art and can't stand the thought of someone being better than them, so they square the circle by looking for a place where they be anonymous and just not acknowledge the better art, or their own glasses, and can freely abuse nascent artists. Usually these people are about 1 step removed from /beg/s anyway, and would just get bodied if they tried this dance "publicly," but that's more on the psychology side than I think we should go ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>7863002
>t. really soft boy who wants to look really toughie for the other edgy kids in a chinese basketweaving forum

>>7863006
mucho texto not reading.

>>7863010
100% chance you did read it because all "art kids" flirt with narcissism but you're definitely into "malignant" territory with your expressed intent of abusing people without recourse, and since the post involves you, the narc (yeah it's you, no you can't "hide" in lowercase), you definitely dissected it lmao

>>7863010
Here you go, anon. If you need any help, just let me know.
https://www.beginlearning.com/parent-resources/when-do-kids-learn-to-read/

i post here because im embarassed of my art

>>7863013
This was very kind of you. It's not often that people seek to resolve a conflict, by dissolving a conflict, and you've got my respect for at least trying to help a troubled child.

>>7863006
And what about the ones who are obviously talented and kind? What's your explanation on that? There are a few of those here.

>>7863012
>"art kids" flirt with narcissism
importantly stupidity and ignorance, they will never learn to draw so who cares about those faggots anyways.

Truth hurts.

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>>7863016

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>noo dont make fun of my doodlerinos
>you are le......EVIL

are we being raided

the whole of 4chan is being "raided" for years now

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>>7862994
Mmm I don't have a community of skilled artists to go so I stick here, I would participate in /int & /adv if there were one

>>7863032
That's literally you, but you're worried about bullies on Twitter dunking on your pseudanime shit scribbles so you not only stay away from real critique you actively seek out the one place where there are artists less skilled than you, AND nobody will call you a shitcock for acting like a shitcock, nice self own

>>7863038
>raided
"Raided" nigga shut the fuck up you ARE the raider if you arrived less than 19 years ago

Why are we getting upset at eachother for posting in these threads? If there are rules for who can and can't post make em clear
>>7862605
>but as i've said im really /beg/ so my advice might be all retarded useless bullshit.
have more confidence I think it was solid advice and your painting looks pretty gud, good job on making it into the OP collage btw that means that guaranteed that one person really liked it (excluding me cause i also liked it hehe).

>>7863016
Pure souls who are too good for this shit world

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bweeehh...

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>>7863063
THREAD CHALLENGE

>>7863016
the exception doesn't make the rule
lots of highints and above are the biggest miserable insecure faggots as much as begs if given a justified target they can harass and virtue signal how heckin basednotcringe and a good person they are

You guys need to just realize that most people really are just miserable retards who want to feel above and better than anyone else without actually doing anything

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Yo

>>7863071
Nice, the dress is a banger

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>>7863064
Maybe. That could be fun
>>7863066
Speaking from experience, I've meet plenty of nice people that were both good and bad at art/drawing, and likewise the other way around. It depends on perspective, I guess.
>>7863071
Yo, great drawing.

>>7863051
could you clarify the distinction of the two mass methods in gesture with an example an unfamiliar beg could understand?

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delayed this comission for 10+ days, I rlly didn't want to draw this

>>7863090
Why, it looks pretty cool

Does anyone know a good resource to learn comstruction? I'm trying to draw from life and things like proportions slowly go from "horrendous dogshit" to "hey this looks like the thing I'm drawing".
Only problem is that I usually got the outline and large details, but afterwards I don't really know what to do when theres alot of details or making things look more 3D.

Is han's dynamic sketching a good choice for my problem?

>>7863090
If I comm'd this and it doesn't come with a panel showing the pussy lips (or balls) peeking out from the fabric I'd call PayPal and reverse the charge

>>7863085
do you draw the gesture outline that small on the side as ref or do you draw on top of it at a different size?

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my progress is really slowing down because now i'm focusing less on rooms and more about small details. i'm trying to connect the reserve fuel tanks on deck 6 to the engines on deck 4. i've got a pretty good plan, but it will take time.

recently i've added fuel inlets and outlets on deck 6 that connect to the sides of the hull. i've added expansion tanks (pressure relief) to the pumps on deck 4 and connected the starboard and port engines to the pumps. i'm gonna have the fuel tubes connect to the secondary engines, and then the central primary engine, then they'll go down to deck 6 in a vertical channel.

this project is starting to fatigue me and i really plan on trying out an imperial raider corvette. but i'm resisting the urge to drop the project.

>>7863095
Keep the gesture simple. One line for flow, one for a stabilizing force, large masses blocked in loosely. This doesn't work unless you know 90% of what you're laying down and why (eg, the legs and pelvis obscure the stomach in a shot where the character is vaulting over something and coming "at" the camera). Then use wrapping lines to establish what is where. If something is receding, just wrap it a few times to show it moving "back" into the picture plane. Reverse for whatever direction, really. This helps keep things organized for when you clean up and establish the anatomy. If

>>7863090
this is why you just outright refuse some commissioners
I've had to turn down some that were just outright awful to look at, couldn't be salvaged

>>7863102
Oh yeah, the resource: try Michael Hampton until you get his technique down, then just use it for your own purposes. David Finch has a good method, and so does Glen Vilppu. YouTube or pirate, doesn't matter.

>>7863102
>>7863108
Thank you for the advice anon. I was actually talking more about "things" or animals instead of people but I'd love to draw people at some point, so it's still very helpful. Just feel like humans are gonna pretty tough at my current skill level since I have no idea about anatomy or construction.

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>>7862977
Just a little bit more
I have to study the water a big more

>>7863066
This is such an incredibly top tier dunning kruger post. Like holy fuck can you go 3 seconds without inhaling your own shit?

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>>7863058
ah thank you kindly anon, i do get whiplash seeing my drawings in the op. i appreciate it
i'll try to build more confidence. im really pushing myself trying to do new things and failing exceptionally so its a bit hard to feel a sense of accomplishment haha
i know im doing a lot of things wrong but can't quite figure out what vexes me so
can't help myself from writing too much lol sorry

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>very productive last couple of days
>now can barely muster the energy to draw anything
its sucks, youd wish the streak would last forever

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>>7862977
>Draw girl
>Color her skin
>Move the window to secondary monitor
>She looks yellow
>Fuck around with the base color until it looks right
>Move back to primary monitor
>Now she looks purple
FUCK

I would like your opinion on which side looks better to you so I can find out which monitor is the weird one. I don't want people to laugh at my girls like they have some kind of skin disease. Gonna need to get into color calibration I guess.

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>>7863056
I dont use twitter, i just post art and follow artists, but more importantly, why would i care about the opinion of abandoned children and middle eastern retards?

>>7863090
How much did you charge

>>7863130
Doesn’t it depend on the lighting of the scene? The first one felt like if she stayed in one of those cheap hotel room lighting, second one feel like if she had only been gooning to her computer at the middle of the night. Preferred the second one because it looked much cooler.

Btw, great coloring on both end

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its going to take a long time before i can drop my chicken scratching habit....

>>7863131
>why would i care about the opinion of abandoned children and middle eastern retards?
Idk retard you tell me, you're the one who values their opinions enough to try and validate yourself to them itt. All without work, too, go figure. Bitch.

>>7863130
I prefer the right but I lean toward pink tinted skin since it feels more lively, and in this case it complements the purple in her hair. However in the absence of a comparison, neither looks bad enough to make me think it was a mistake.

Why is this art board so full of people who don't even draw now. If you don't draw close the thread. No shit so few people post finished art here it's full of all the children who sit alone at lunch.

>>7863148
You mad? Here, put your cape back on and be Supermad. Or go to Twitter where you can sign your shit with name and face, pussy.

>>7863130
If she's in a white void, right is more common and more appealing.
I'm surprised the other two responses to your post didn't mention how atrocious that armpit is. It brings down your drawing far more than the color.

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>>7863146
I see I see, thanks!

>>7863154
Yeah, I tried making the armpit from imagination. Gotta have to find a good ref for it since I intend to post both versions (shaved/unshaved)

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>>7862991
Neat but not readable

>>7863127
That's life

>>7863089
Sure I will do post some examples for you little grasshopper, but I don't have time right now...

>>7863156
It's a zone where the pectoral, the triceps and the major dorsal ends with some minor muscles, if you draw nsfw you absolutely need anatomy

>>7863157
Holy crap, those girls are pretty, I like it

>>7863085
>I've meet plenty of nice people that were both good and bad at art/drawing, and likewise the other way around. It depends on perspective, I guess.
As is with most things.
Trying to attribute a person's worth and personalities based on what a person is skilled at or owns, is pure corporate mentality.
The opposite of attributing a person's skills and worth based on what they say is also pure mental illness and coping if it's not actual damage control and deflection.

It's like the meme of people saying someone could never be a bad person because they donate to charity.
If i was a serial killer, i would work where my job would be saving lives.
If i was a thief, i would work at the bank.
If i was a bad guy, i would really try to come off as a good guy; because if i'm a good guy, how could i ever be the bad guy? And to anyone that would dare question my goodness; god have mercy, because i shall have none. I am a good guy after all.

>>7863153
You have homework due tomorrow

>>7863170
Yeah you too big dawg, where's that work? Or maybe I'm right and you're scared little pussy who won't put his name on his shitty anime floating girl pictures. Don't worry, time will pass and you can go back to being an anonymous retard trolling other retards with slightly worse skills than you win enough.

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>>7862977
For some reason I absolutely love drawing thick line art. This isn't mine but I find regular line art to just not be my cup of tea.

I'm worried it's gonna look childish or not taken seriously though.

>>7863181
I love bold outlines with thin inner lines for detail, what you posted is awesome. It can be done well with a mature audience in mind.

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I tried to force myself including values and background now. Better than characters floating in the air, I suppose.
1/3

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>>7863188
Pretty difficult, I tried to block everything, and avoid soft edges.
2/3

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>>7863189
I'll work on colors much later
Feedbacks welcome, as always
3/3

will i forget how to draw if i took a break life 2 -3 months?

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>>7863190
I'm too beg to give any particular advice but these look cool. I like the second one most the lighting and the long robe is nice

>>7863189
this one is epic

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>>7863189
Countering the malding jeet: these are good and you're doing good work. The background and value study instantly make the work much more appealing, nice job.

>>7863193
not fully but you would probably need to spend some time warming up again

spamming low effort garbage is.......LE GOOD

>>7863193
It depends on how much you draw. Something will be lost, but some cumulative knowledge will never disappear. I take half-year breaks every year or so and no one notices the difference.

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>>7863064
Just got back from walking the dog and shopping. Here's a 5 minute free-hand copy for you. It looks like I gave her a mustache. It was a fun distraction, though I fail to see what much can be learned from it, besides the style.
>>7863097
I usually draw the gesture/sketch as a baseline, and then I draw on top of it at 5 percent opacity. Afterwards, I scale it down, place it next to the drawing, see how I interpreted the sketch, then I take some notes and move on to the next one. It's fast, and it works well for learning how my eyes interpret and remembers the details and forms of the sketch underneath. It's a fun exercise, but not much else.
>>7863127
I feel you, anon. I have those days too.
>>7863130
It's a decent drawing, and colours correction can be annoying. I myself use reading glasses, and there's a slight shift in hue from it, so I get it. That being said, The armpit is way to complicated, as many other anons have noted.
>>7863138
They look good. Bridgman's own drawings aren't free of scratching as well, so it's better to interpret the drawings rather than copy them 1:1.
>>7863150
Didn't manage to reply in the previous thread. Your work is great, do you have any finished pieces?
>>7863157
Great stuff. I'm still working on how to better stylize my characters, but it's getting there slowly.
>>7863166
What you're constructing is basically anti-social behavioral masking.
As a fun fact: serial killers working in healthcare is extremely common, surprisingly so. A lot of jobs that include vulnerable people as a part of it attracts people that want power over others for the sake of it, sometimes (though thankfully rarely) at the cost of lives.
Also, being a thief is not worth if. Just learn locksmithing, and you'll rob people blind from the fees.
>>7863190
All of them are fantastic, especially this last one. I feel like the first one's values are a bit too flat, but the other two are lovely.

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>>7863190
i like this one a ton, is it moran? i think you did a great job portraying her. the lightning is great.
seconding the other anon, don't have any particular advice to offer

circlejerk looney trooney, this is why you don't encourage the woman low effort garbage spam

>>7863204
It looks cute

or maybe you don't care about the quality and that's why you do it. To kill the already dead board.

>>7863206
You don't draw

>>7863206
this is beg what kind of quality are you expecting to be posted?

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I'm bad at this.

>>7863212
She's not beg and also constantly spams the board with garbage. I expect /beg/ and /int/ drawings, not a circlejerk spam.

>>7863215
That's beg tho??

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>>7863181
A small amount of Tom Bloom's work fits this. He normally uses much thinner lines, but I just love his art.

>>7863222
It's beg because it's literally spam

>drawing thread
>people get mad when you draw

More like Indians and Latinos get mad when you're not Indian or Latino near them

>>7863231
>Latinos
:(

>>7863232
You know what you did.

>>7863229
>nodraws get mad when you draw
ftfy

Forget about this, let's talk about something important

why /ic/ getting raided more than any boards i ever seen

>>7863238
Because it's not a raid, 95% of the artists are mentally ill

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Did another goober bird. The details are pretty overwhelming for me so I'm unsure how to draw / simplify them, but this is me trying to copy anyway so I guess the details aren't insanely important. I'll post reference next

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>>7863089
there you go, i might be wrong and in my position i learned that everyone is wrong in some degree because of the way they understand the concept, my point was never to adopt the ways of someone else but to take their knowledge and try to understand what they say and bend it to my likings creating a notion of mine about the concept

>>7863229
i know, the system should be more democratic like voting for someone to be ip banned is they doesnt contribute to the thread... but that would in a sense kill the escense of 4chan

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>>7863240
the creature in question

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Anyone know is this is a decent course for begs to start with gesture / figure? The alternative one would be hamptons gesture and figure construction course, that one does seem more difficult I think?

>>7863244
Loomis is free and I'm certain FWaP is a better ease-in.

I really think anybody and everybody should at least try loomis' books before spending money on an online course

>>7863245
money? dude we fucking have a whole thread for those courses

>>7863244
You can find it on online-courses club for free. No harm in checking it out.

>>7863245
Thanks for the advice, but isn't fwap for heads.
Maybe I missed something since I didn't read the whole book yet, but I'd be willing to check it out.
I'm interested in drawing the entire body and this one was recommended by a few people, but you know how it is, ask 10 people and you'll get 10 answers which is understandable.

Oh and I'd pirate the course, no way I'm paying that money.

>>7863244
check the reviews and the results posted

>>7863244
this is just guess but proko figure course is hard for a beg i think micheal hampton gesture and figure drawing courses might be good for a beg

>>7863205
Thanks man, it is indeed Moran

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>>7863204
Thanks peeps

>>7863253
i disagree, figure and gesture is /beg/ tier, they are never anatomically correct and they are not expected to be.

>>7863253
don't they teach the same thing?

>>7863255
post your gesture

>>7863257
Hampton is better at explaining the gesture than proko, iirc Hampton just appears on the channel and takes care of that block of instruction

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>>7863260
oooh, you mean in the videos. I was actually talking about the gesture course by hampton himself. His way of drawing gesture is somewhat different looking from proko but I'm not sure if there any actual difference, probably very little

>>7863261
No ultimately you're good to figure out your own way to do it, it's just about finding someone to show you what needs done, ways to do it, and then you practice and refine with what you like/what gets you the results you want

>>7863263
makes sense, thanks anon, I'm probably overthinking the whole thing

>>7863264
gesture drawing is highly subjective

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Finished Monday's drawing; original is here:

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>>7862991
This looks cool, but I don't know what it is.

>>7863071
Nice expression! It really communicates otherworldliness, with a hint of almost disgust.

>>7863085
I like the square jawline in particular.

>>7863114
I think that this looks amazing! I agree; the water could use some finishing touches.

>>7863126
Nice work on the torso; the lines on it evoke mystery and make me curious about your picture.

>>7863127
This must have taken a lot of time and effort; I commend your dedication. Somehow, it feels like the lines on the top gun (heh) could be smoother. I think that shading will really make the lower gun more vibrant.

>>7863130
>black hair
>purple eyes
mega based.

I think that the skin on the left looks more natural, although it looks like she'll have sunburn the next day. The left image reminds me of jaundice a little. The hair looks off on both images.

>>7863138
>>7863150
LGTM

>>7863157
I like the detail on the top left man's forehead; this in particular looks really nice. The women are certainly beautiful! The bottom right image has her jaw looking a little too square IMO; I can tell that you've been LOOOOMISing.

>>7863159
Very cute! The proportions on this are very nice.
>>7863181
Those lines certainly are a bold statement. It all comes together to make a good image, though.

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>makes $1500 a month for this

>>7863274
wth is "LGTM"

>>7863276
https://duckduckgo.com/?origin=funnel_home_google&t=h_&q=lgtm+meaning&ia=web

>>7863275
politics is horoscope for retards who believe they're smart

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>>7863275
>anon discovers how much money political cartoonists make
$1500 is kinda low compared to the ol' newspaper cartoonists

>>7863275
Yea courtesy of Eglin AFB

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why is drawing faces so hard?

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I'm going to come back to this later I just don't want to look at it right now

>>7863279
generations are horoscopes for retards who watch too much TV

>>7863289
Horoscopes are horoscopes for homoscopes, Homoscope.

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>>7863284

>Start drawing
>Do my daily practice and stuff
>Time to actually draw something
>Ended up ripping and trashing the paper up later
I don't understand. I've been at this for years now and my ability to draw has actually gone down. Before I could draw and knockout two pages of actual drawings. Now I can't even do one. How do I get out of this hole?

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>>7863284
idk about the mouth, i need to study them

>>7863294
idk, when i dont want to draw i dont do it, but if some days have passed then i force myself, sometimes i look for little objetives, or focus only on problems like the gesture on the hands, the volume, etc. or i just draw what i like the most, like legs and feets, butts, i dont draw boobs often but i do my studies about them

>>7863293
kek
>>7863295
nice

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dam i spend like 2 hours on this.

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Hey guys here's a collection of comics I made, can I make good money posting these on patreon or should I continue drawing cubes until I get better?

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>>7863300
<-- ref i used

>>7863301
If this shit had to compete today and not in the barren cultural wasteland of 20th century comic strips then even less people would be talking about it, and as it stands, only me and you are talking about fucking Cathy. You got an edge like a fuckin spoon.

>>7863300
Looks great, face is a bit temu but looks good regardless.

Her boobs are getting bigger, my venus, my aphrodite, just wait until i have a nice job

>>7863293
LMAO

>>7863325
right one is a femboy?

>>7863204
Thank you. The last full piece I posted on /ic/ was this.
https://litter.catbox.moe/gcyxs5.png

>>7863329
blog?

>>7863330
I have a twitter but I stopped posting my work there years ago. I don't want to start uploading work until I get better.

>>7863135
25 usd
>>7863092
just not in a good headspace to do be doing comissions, or drawing in general

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left: figure study from early September, basically my first ever 'figure study', done largely haphazardly and without careful attention.
Right: figures I did the past couple days. (I'm still very bad with heads)

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>>7863284
Idunno. It seems pretty easy to me.

>>7863333
Lol nigga, charge more

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oh look, an actual finished piece. i think this is kinda overworked and i made my lines too thick to be stylistically "cool". but, happy with the general vibes and learned a lot! procreate - sketch round brush by jingsketch.

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the challenge

>>7863340
nice. I think this would look much more aesthetic if you reduced the outlines on the leaves. light outline on a few sides of the leaves instead of a complete outline from all sides.

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Somebody does know the logic on why sometimes the mouth works better on one side of the face than on its normal place?

For the rest, I am trying to draw the simplest characters ever that can be expressive (and potentially coomer material)

>>7863343
i was going to say this too anon. Great atmosphere on the other side>>7863340

>>7863329
>full piece
anon that's a sketch

>>7863338
It's really hard getting comissions nowadays, so I charge as little as possible

>>7863360
He's trapped in sketchcel hell because he's unconfident in his capabilities

>>7863338
but how much?

>>7863361
because of ai? fffffck, and i want to make a living of drawing big butts/boobs

>>7863370
I dunno, i charge 50

>>7863372
Thank god for AI, you people are scammers.

>>7863372
can you post an example of your work? i need some guidance about how much should i price my job

>>7863361
Brother you have pretty beautiful art AND you're drawing furry shit. 25$ is an insanely low price for your work you can at the bare minimum double if not triple it depending on how big your audience is

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>>7863367
im a sketchcel too, havent heard of shading/ coloring in my life. fortunately you can make it as a sketchcel, see pic related

I'm so happy I don't need to dedicate many hours of my time creating something I couldn't care less about for the price of a fucking door dash order minus tip. Wageslavery has its perks.

>>7863376
i'd consider this a finished piece

>>7863375
>beautiful art

You people are fucking insane. Actually charging $50 for a piece of trad garbage.

>>7863379
and yet it has minimal shading and or coloring, just as the piece criticized

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>>7863284
"Hey Lois, remember the time I was raped by a fat ugly bastard?"

No hate, I love your stuff.

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>>7863340
>>7863181
>>7863223
I think those are cool

if you guys want furry trash, porn, eroticism go to any gen prompt general, don't waste money on garbage.

>>7863373
Nta but there are people charging 100 for half body out there

>>7863392
not for long.

>>7863394
Two more weeks!

>>7863392
Charging isn't the same as getting

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>>7863395
How about now? If anyone wants porn, don't commission, i will do it for free (minus furry shit cause i'm not into that). Character/Artist/Pose and you get it for $0.

If you want to do art you better git gud or get out. I can't change the entire internet but i can change my surroundings and that's enough for me.

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>>7863399
Shouldn't you be flinging shit with the other An Indians?

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>>7863400
I think AI is garbage , souless, it has no value and it can't be categorized as art.
I also think R34 western """"art"""" is garbage, souless, it has no value and it can't be categorized as art.

>>7863399
fuck off, we investing time and effort here, so many neurons lost... ai is the worst thing that happened to us artist

>>7863380
retardchama... his art is digital...
I know you've been spamming the thread since the start, but please try harder.

>>7863375
I don't have that big of an audience, only 700~ followers on twitter

Why do AI fags not seem to understand that the people who want to spend money on commissions are not interested in slop? Everyone on the internet knows about AI, yet they still go for commissions. Everyone who wants to generate endless slop every day are already doing it and were never going to pay for commissions in the first place

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>>7863422
Because normies are stupid, they don't realize that the chinese dumped every single asian artist on the thing. Didn't a girl got caught tracing AI using Ixy and some other artist as the style? she was selling the """"art"""" for hundreds of dollars.

It's a matter of time until they realize that commissions are scams. Commissioning in 2026 is beyond fuckingtarded.

>why do ai tards keep spamming?
because they literally ain't got shit else in life
even if you dont reply, they're just going to reply to themselves pretending to be butthurt artists and keep arguing
Assuming it's not actual spambots of course

All the current internet spam is to just get people tired so they ask for digital IDs and more control, but it won't change anything.

Stop trying to reason with the mentally ill. Aitards are the trannies of technology.

>>7863400
AI bros hate having fun really

>>7863099
is this a halo ftl mod

cute and funny
NOW

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Hello people, I'm very new to drawing seriously. I thankfully have some basic skills from doodling during classes back in school but that's pretty much it. I started draw almost daily 1-2 weeks ago. I do some basic sketches giving myself 10-20 mins for each one. The red numbers mark in which order I drew them. I am wondering if this is good enough to start doing more complex things. Any advice is welcome, I'm pretty clueless

>>7863447
Fuck I'm so retarded I can't even write properly

>>7863447
For beginner sketches these are fine, biggest issue is the chicken scratching, fine for hatching but you'll want to try to make more confident strokes when making the figure.
I would skip Betty's book or Fun with a Pencil and jump into Glen Vilppu or Loomis figure drawing books if you want to get better at drawing humans.

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>>7863447
Try Challenge52. It's well paced and structured. It'll advance you properly and week2 is fun. (some say it's just drawabox)

>>7863447
i dont see your construction lines, where are them?

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practice

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>>7863073
>>7863085
>>7863271
thanks, i gave her a digital treatment haha

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Got around to finishing this

>>7863463
I wanna draw mecha like that eventually. Very cool
>>7863465
Nice hips

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THREAD CHALLENGE

>>7863452
You're right, I will try to make a conscious effort to avoid chicken scratches. I plan on doing Loomis but I was thinking of first going with Bridgman, since I like Frazetta's art very much.
>>7863453
I will check it out, it might helpful to practice more consistently. Thanks.
>>7863455
I didn't use any, I think. That's why my perspective is so bad in all the sketches.

>>7863503
soul

>>7863361
Some guy has been begging me for hours to accept his commission (which would be just a photoshop edit lol) saying he's depressed and poor, i feel bad some people struggle like this
He just didn't know i'm also depressed and poor

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>>7861945
PAGE 2 DONE! I really want to do the 3RD page, but I don't want to drop the amputee prison story... such tough decisions... AAAAHHHHHHHHHH
>>7862503
>oh Peril, I sure look forward to this one.
>For a short moment I wondered and worried whether you might actually know me irl - heh.
Thank you! I hope you enjoy it! I used this >>7856440 as ref for the main guy and the Shibari Master, lol.
>>7862499
>i like the colored drawings
Thank you dear Monka! Yes, now I'm realizing that the extra amount of work really adds up to the overall effort. This one is going to be hard, but I already have the whole story written down. It should be doable. But I won't be able to do the Cowboy comic, three stories at the same time is too much lol
>>7863386
YES, a mystery warrior under a red sun... I love it
>>7863189
Beautiful composition
>>7863157
Is that Josh Brolin?
>>7863085
Cool, he has a Humphrey Bogart resemblance
>>7863071
Absolutely gorgeous little piece!
>>7863503
That's a beautiful face on the left!

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sketch of website tans

>>7863497
holy shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit those are a delicius pair of tumors, wth...

>>7863501
well you can think of construction lines as being used for perspective, but the thing is that they are an hypothesis an are used everywhere, when you treat them as confirmations lines (final lines) you will struggle to "construct" the form but if you keep open minded and embrace the duality of line where it can be an hypothesis ready to be a confirmation or a confirmation that needs to be converted back to an hypothesis then you will "construct" the drawing

>>7863520
Oh I think I see what you mean, that's a really good way of thinking about it and I hadn't done so. I will try to use construction lines for my next sketches. Thank you very much.

im really struggling to replicate the pose of a reference.
I would rather not trace. Using simple shapes isnt helping. advice please

>>7863524
Just draw

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I'M REALLY FUCKING STRUGGLING WITH EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE ALL AT ONCE!

>>7863524
post the ref and your attempts so we can see what's going wrong

How do you stop being nervous and accept the result?

>>7863552
shoganai

>>7863553
>shoganai
but I want it to look cool like in my head

My sketching is ugly and retarded while talented artists have theirs down in the first strokes.

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Why does my head construction feel flat? Did I do this correctly?

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Watercolor I did today.

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>>7863531
i'm overwhelmed. I have to draw this but don't think I'm selling the illusion of foreshortening on this doodle.
I can't even fathom how I'll get down her complicated clothing.

>>7863568
You need Talent

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I know I said I don't like drawing people and or characters.... I do sometimes.
I enjoy jank early black metal art.

So here is some jank

>>7863569
Maybe I'll find it if I keep going.

>>7863571
You are born with talent. Skill is found and talent guides you to it.

masturbating keeps taking up all my drawing time and its getting really annoying to deal with
i wish i was joking

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>>7863497
there you have it, she has a lot of booba and i could not fit them in my brain

>>7863583
crap, how many times do you need to calm down?

>>7863571
thats the mindset

>>7863568
do you want a "redline" on how i would approach it? i have time...

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>>7863568
used that negative space as a sort of guidance.

>>7863585
beautiful busty babe. And if it's not too much trouble I'd like to see that redline please.

my wrist hurts. I'm gonna jerk off and go to sleep. I'll respond tomorrow if you do. Good night.

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Am I gonna hit a wall trying to learn / copy vilppu or bridgman as a beg?
I did this >>7863240 for example. Also more birds last thread.

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Would you?
I can tell the arms are uneven but I feel like thats a consequence of the initial circle body being too wide. I tried to place the eyes as perfectly apart as possible using construction lines I learned from loomis but it still felt off because I guess the crosslines weren't perfectly centered.

>>7863602
Would

>>7863600
Bridgman is too hard for /beg/s. Vilppu is hit or miss, he's teaches more intuitively, so the type of people that need everything explained don't find him very useful. You'd probably like Brent Eviston, he does birds and figures too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vK84953ivs

>>7863602
I can tell you traced that reaction image of the in game model

How do you start drawing figures in 3d or perspective? I can draw them head-on, but if I try a 3/4 view for example my mind just breaks. Is there something I should be practicing or some resource to understand it?

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>>7863568
There you have it. I changed the position of the right arm to make it more interesting, added more of the legs and feet with high platform heels because I love them and women are incomplete without a good pair of legs. I need to study shoe design; my heels are very standard. The facial expression needs to be changed to something more attractive and sexy. I drew the legs about three times, exaggerating the perspective so that it doesn't match the reference itself, but rather the perspective it shows. The little man is still pending for now. I could increase the size of his chest, but that would detract from the legs.

>>7863626
i might make a lineart, paint it and pair it with an abstract background, hypothetically speaking how much should i charge for the lineart, and for the finished piece (lineart+paint+abstract bg)?

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>>7863602
idk

>>7863623
boxes unironically

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>>7863565
my loomis is a bit rusty, i dont use it anymore 'cause it is too rigid, personally i think you might be struggling with proportions and constructing the form and the lines, your lines shows that you are not "sketching" but confirming your lines too early...

time to sleep, cya

Thoughts on this newsletter-bait guide?
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gIXdlGGQObAEmCweUPzun-DMlq7dcv9y/view

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I used a cropped ref and have on trying to make the foot on left

>>7863567
That looks really nice.

>>7863399
>>7863422
I hope so, commissions from people that want just drawing and don't give a fuck about me are always a chore. I rather have less commissions but work with people that care.

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when do you "get" gesture? even following rules, it feels off

>>7863704
you think you followed the rules but that motherfucker is straight as an arrow. try copying or even tracing some of hampton's gestures first to get a feel of the flow

>>7863546
Thank you very cool Torulene

>>7863704
>curves opposite straights
>3d head oriented properly
>line of action in tact
This is fine, just keep working. Crabs gonna crab.

>>7863626
>>7863585
Is this AI?

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>>7863271
>I like the square jawline in particular.
Yeah, me too.It was difficult to translate to this shape-design style, but it worked well enough.
>>7863510
>Cool, he has a Humphrey Bogart resemblance
Nice, thank you. Then I did my job well enough, it's deeply inspired by a reference of him, and a couple of other noir detectives.
And lovely full color page, too. Looks brilliant.
>>7863208
Thanks, anon.

>>7863736
more bridgeman?

>>7863740
Yep. 80 percent of the time, I just do studies. It's not very exciting, honestly. This week, It's Bridgman, like the week before. Good stuff, especially if you're drawing it trad.

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Here's another small ten-minute sketch. Had a lot of fun with this one.
>>7863497
Oh my. How's that even possible?
>>7863503
Nothing wrong with large hands, fella. I like it.
>>7863508
Great sketches.
>>7863530
>>7863532
Absolutely adorable.
>>7863565
Like what the other anon said, Loomis especially can be way rigid. I completely skipped him in favor of more loose and gesture based methods, like what Hampton teaches. I found it more fun, and it can be manipulated easily, once you wrap your head around it.
>>7863570
Great jank. Keep drawing what you love, it looks fun.
>>7863585
Great stuff as well, anon. I really enjoy your pin-up "sort-of Disney" style. It's great. I would love to see more of your work.
>>7863667
I think it looks great, but I suck at feet, so I can't really comment on that. I do feel like the perspective on the left leg is off somewhat, like the lower leg should point more backwards, like the other one. Take it with what you will.

>>7863726
nigga I’m just giving him actionable advice that helped me. he clearly admits he is not satisfied with it

>>7863713
Are you gonna namedrop me every thread now

>>7863777
what method is your head construction based on?

>>7863667
the right leg (knee-ankle) is on a different plane than the left leg, you need to place a floor or keep it in mind when you draw...
>>7863704
gesture is a big uninterrupted line, and it has hierarchy so you need a big curved line for the whole body and secondary curved lines for the limbs, the primary is the master and you slave the secondaries to it...

>>7863729
nop, that's how I draw, do you want an speedup video? like an hour compressed to 2 minutes...

>>7863777
"disney style", you mean because of the face? that wasn't intended, i might need to review it...

You’re right I suck I’ve stopped drawing I won’t waste my time anymore I’m just going to play Fortnite.

>>7863798
King shit.

>>7863789
I would say Hampton, if I were to pin it down. I'm very loose about contruction, unless I'm uncertain as to how I'm going to draw something. Hampton's method starts by only doing gestures, then he slowly builds contruction around those principles. I can highly recommend his book, especially if you plan on just copying images, though the written elements are brilliant, too. It also makes it very easy to build on top of it, like comparing his methods with Bridgman, which is a great experience. It's also infuenced by other artists, though only slightly so.
>>7863795
Mainly a combination of shape design and the face, to an extent. It looks great, I think, though I'm highly westernized in my approach. I'm still learning to become better at stylization, western and especially eastern (anime) methods, which you seem to be much better at.

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wowow i wouldnt comsider anyof this stuff beginner maybe im js retarded. anyway my drawign

>>7863802
I see, my artist of reference is REIQ and although he draws in manga style some of his drawings fall more in the western side of the world, that might be the cause I implicitly drew a face like that, another cause can be the way anime-manga style is more planar-ish when it comes to faces but in my attempt I try to express the volume of the face, another cause can be the proportions, I worked out proportions from REIQ's illustrations and put them in the back of my mind, maybe if a workout proportions of asian artist who draw in manga style or ai slop that mimics it I should get more or less the same results, like reducing the length between the center of the imaginary line that exists from corner to corner in both eyes and the chin, making eyes bigger and mouth smaller, idk...

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>>7863777
Loomis book still in a Chinese Factory.

>>7863833
cute! love !

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>super beg but not unhappy with lines of paper
>decide to try out digital
>it's back to babbys first day of drawing

Dayum everything looks all messed up, holding the stylus is kinda weird too

>>7863824
Not a big reiq fan, his jiggly-girls stuff was lame to the extreme. Though his rough sketches were actually nice. I don't know why the rendering took all the appeal out of his female figures. Weird.

>>7863821
Banger colors, I like it, anon

>>7863835
>lines of paper

Whoops, meant to say lines ON paper.

>>7863240
Looking good! Go and fill in the other values

>>7863840
tysm!!

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>>7863851
Yea thats kinda my problem currently, I don't even know where to start after the outline.

>>7863821
I unironically love this kind of stuff, though I'm biased towards artistic intent and expression. Very fun, and the colours are great.
>>7863824
The great stuff about YouTube tutorials is their way of showcasing how to do stuff "quickly" in a bite-sized 8 to 20 minute video. Nevertheless, it's a good idea to balance learning on not just one source, or you'll fall in the trap of only being able to render in one type of style. The most egregious example I cam come up with was the certain "Instagram" anime style that was popular back in late 2024, I believe. I bounce between Hampton and Bridgman to see where they overlap and how they simplify anatomy, shape and form. Hampton's gestures are absolutely brilliant, while Bridgman's construction and breakdowns of anatomy is much more in depth, and the drawings goes from schematic to simple in a good rhythm. The usual steps in "Constructive Anatomy", the one I'm using, it goes from a general overview, then to a more anatomical, and finally to a sharp and structured understanding of the two. It's great, especially if you break down the drawings while you copy and read. I'm not the biggest fan of Loomis for beginners, but in his book " Successful Drawing" the chapter on light and form (page 78 and onwards) are a stroke of genius. It's seriously some of the best work I've seen in regards on how to easily understand and render light with a pencil, not kidding.
>>7863825
Fantastic, simple as.

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As an addition to what I said in >>7863859
Just look at this. Ever single drawing past page 134 in Successful Drawing are absolutely gorgeous. When it comes to rendering with a pencil, Loomis' learning material absolutely dominates, no doubt about it.

>>7863615
No I just drew a circle. I have yet to try tracing anything

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it's dogshit that i fucked up, but it's my dogshit that i fucked up at least

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>>7862977

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>>7862977
something I'm currently working at. I just want some feedback even if it's harsh. I just want to improve. Thanks.

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Another Homura study. Some foreshortening here, so I think that's a good skill to have.

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>>7863891
Original

>>7863891
You unironically need to do peter han's most basic shit and drawabox. But just the first lessons. You need to learn how to make marks correctly. Don't try anything more complex than a bunch of boxes and shit.

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how do I stop being a lazy pos, and why do oils take 5 million years to dry.

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Wip
So far so good but something is missing for sure
in terms of painting ik the pose is awkward af

>>7863892
>>7863891
Senseifag was making perfect bridgman studies in a week and this nigga has been permaprebeg for a straight month.
Do you still believe talent isnt real?

>>7863898
Use gamsol on the 1st layers. It works like a charm and it dries them very quickly. Plus you can do stuff in paralell.

>>7863869
>>7863898

Looks cute

>>7863899
Anatomy looks fine, but you need to redo the gross pillow shading

>>7863903
Is there a difference between odorless turpenoid and gamsol? because that’s what i’m using right now in my jar

>>7863901
People just lie about how much time they take to do something. I spent about a year grinding it out until I could do things well, and I also claim it took me a week if asked. Just thins the competition a bit.

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>>7863909
How do I fix it?
Because to me all anime shading looks like that with a little more shine.
Also here's some other non anime world to paint a better picture (lol)

>>7863910
Don't use turpenoid even if it's odorless. It's toxic and gamsol it better. Gamsol can be used both as medium and also to clean brushes. It's great.

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>>7863869
I think it's a fantastic frog. It looks great.
>>7863875
There's beauty in this type of linework. I envy you.
>>7863877
That looks sick, anon. Nice.
>>7863901
If you're talking about me, then that's just disingenuous, bordering on a lie. I spent the first two months just doing hampton gestures, close to a thousand, before I even attempted doing any other type of drawing. My method of learning is inherently boring, which is why I rarely make many original pieces.

>>7863892
>>7863891
nice animu, anon

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Just wanted to share that I made a fairly round circle on tablet for the first time, pretty proud honestly

>>7863919
Thanks king. I have been studying for years and currently looking to improve and reach out to real people to get feedback and meet other artists.

>>7863915
I am at work right now so I can't physically show you, but it looks based on the chest you want the light to be cast from the top right. First, anything that would hit the light needs the shadow taken away (from the viewer's POV: the left side of the left legs, top of the left arm, left hand including fingers, tops of both feet, top of right arm). Then add stronger shadows, including parts of the body that would cast shadows upon itself (for instance the head would be casting a shadow upon the (viewers POV) right shoulder, left arm would be casting a shadow across the torso, left leg would be casting a slight shadow across the right, etc.) Also remember for a general rule of thumb: shadows casted from another body part have hard edges, where as the shadows that are casted because the form of the object is no longer reaching the light has a soft edge

>>7863928
>you want the light to be cast from the top right
shit I am an idiot, I meant it looks like you want it from the top left