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>>220747458
do gaijins not know what copyright is?

まとめさんぼくは赤字でお願いします

>>220747472
We absolutely do. A more intriguing question would be if we give a fuck about it or not.

>>220747458
Nuke Japan

>>220747472
I recline on Japan's copyrights

>>220747937
LOL

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>>220747937
of course you idiot with finnish pose is proud of your nuisance acts

>>220747458
>ended service worldwide on April 29, 2024
No service - no copyrights

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>>220747458
Bow before your Shogun

>>220748207
You can't bully us with your baseless, impotent e-rage like you bully SEA-sians

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>>220747458
>won't you think of the poor rights holders

>>220748207
they're not posing they just naturally have slant eyes like Japs

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>>220747819
you poop on street idiot

>>220748429
So?

Imagine fanatically defending multi-millionaires over a Twitter meltdown.

レクライニングしてもいい?

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>>220748462
you defend theft because you have no morals idiot

>>220748634
So?

>>220748634
>pic
Japan solved that by selling cartoon child.
皮肉的だろうね?

>>220747937
Do you make the slanted-eye gesture when they address to you?

This is the low morals of gaijin.

>>220748634
Japan is the only country where being a pedo and pervert is a subculture of its own

>>220748483
nein

>>220747458
Anime-slop deserves to be pirated

>>220747472
copyright is a usurous scheme which any moral person has a duty to undermine whenever he is able

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I didn't know nips could get this angry about piracy. are torrents sites illegal in japan?

Copying is not theft.
Stealing a thing leaves one less left
Copying it makes one thing more;
that’s what copying’s for.

Copying is not theft.
If I copy yours you have it too
One for me and one for you
That’s what copies can do

If I steal your bicycle
you have to take the bus,
but if I just copy it
there’s one for each of us!

Making more of a thing,
that is what we call “copying”
Sharing ideas with everyone
That’s why copying
is
FUN!

>>220750357
yes you can actually go to prison for piracy in japan.

>>220750357
I got my internet cut off by my landlord (they were providing) when I forgot to use VPN for direct download, not even torrent. Had to pay myself from a different ISP after that and triple check everything is enabled. It's a criminal (not civil) offense, you can go to jail for several years. I was lucky nothing else happened. Lucky it was just Konami and not Nintendo or I wouldn't be posting.

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>>220750432
>It's a criminal (not civil) offense, you can go to jail for several years

>>220747472
this makes me want to illegally download their shitty game whatever it is

>>220747472
>oversea cultural savage
oh to be a western Nier fan

>>220750454
You thought Germans were the most oppressed but it is really Japanese. We suffer in Japan.

>>220750424
>>220750432
>It's a criminal (not civil) offense, you can go to jail for several years.
huh, I thought the worst thing that could happen was getting a fine.

>>220750454
>Child rape? GOOD
>Copy Nintendo game? EVIL LOW MORAL GAIJIN

>>220747472
this makes me want to illegally download their shitty game whatever it is

>>220747458
>>220750259
japs literally can't differentiate morality from rule-following. fans infringing copyright because they want to play something that's no longer available and have no other options is not the same as theft.

>>220750554
Average Japanese people are autistic bootlickers for Nintendo. They'll see a game with a tentacle monster being summoned to fight a birdman sword wielding monster being summoned by another, and they'll go "THIS IS JUST A RIP OFF OF POKEMON ISN'T IT??? NINTENDO PLEASE SUE!!!"

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>>220750619
do not talk about morality when you idiots act like this in japan

>>220747472
Why should anyone care about copyright? Give me one good reason.

>>220750432
>>220750454
Don't murderers in Japan get several year prison sentences?

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still no argument

>>220752129
depends

if they're men and they rape, stab, torture, kill a woman and then stuff her in a barrel and pour concrete over her, then yes they only get a few years in prison

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>>220752212
your argument is flawed idiot
that is not excuse to do theft

Is this an actual sentiment by the Great Nation of Nihon, or is it just spewn by the loonies who sit on twitter all day?
If you were to go on futaba, would the boys there also seethe over piracy?

>>220752384
Why is piracy morally wrong? Because the creator loses sales. But if they're not selling it anyway, then they lose nothing

>>220752445
>spewn
congrats you are certified efl

>>220750619
Well, it took being nuked, twice, for them to realize that massacring civilians, raping women and torturing p.o.w.s was not okay just because their government said it was

>>220752384
And why not? Give me one reason why I shouldn't pirate a product. Just one.

>>220747458
>causing harm to the developers
How? The game is not being sold anymore
>and right holders
Fuck IP/copyright laws

>>220752656
I am honored, but I do not deserve it.
A problem that I have involves skipping words because I think faster than I type.
It is especially embarrassing when skipping an article, which makes me look like a double ESL.

>>220752384
>vidya piracy is the same as rape, murder and necrophilia
and to think people say japs can't do comedy

I can't post

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>>220752678
all that is lie idiot
massacre of civilian and rape and torture is propaganda by victor countries
learn real history idiot

>>220752286
i don't see a problem with that

>>220752384
>the japanese talking about not raping things
>the japanese care more about bideo games and companies getting "raped" than their children and women
kek lmao

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>>220747458
I thought the discourse around this was really interesting to see. It's such a cultural divide that it almost feels like both sides are talking to aliens.
From what I gathered, Japanese otaku have a strange symbiotic relationship with corporations, where there is a sort of mutual respect for each other. Breaking that relationship is seen as ridiculously taboo in the same way it would be seen as taboo to insult the mom and pop store that goes out of their way to provide their best service and gives back as much as they can to their community. Fan doujins and games are allowed and encouraged, older systems and games are super cheap and plentiful. Why would you want to go out of your way to fuck them over? We're all in this together, aren't we?

But on the other hand, westerners are shown negative respect by corporations, including Japanese ones and resent the fuck out of corporations as a whole because of it. Fan animations and games get copyright struck and banished into the shadow realm, older systems and games are stupidly expensive and rare as fuck to the point of being nonexistent. And corporations do everything within their power to fuck over the consumer as hard as they possibly can. In Japan you could petition a corporation to bring back servers for an old game with just a few people, but forget the fuck about it if you're anywhere else in the world. So Japanese people are confused and enraged by piracy or media preservation because they just can't comprehend that a corporation wouldn't be willing to provide a service or product if Otaku wanted it.

That's as far as I understand it anyway. Any Japs wanna correct my presumptions go ahead, I'm interested to know more about this stuff

>>220754984
>Fan doujins and games are allowed and encouraged
Actually I've seen this very argument used against the japanese who are against preserving games by pointing out how hypocritical it is for them to be okay with doujins and fanart in general since those also infringe on the companies' copyright without permission, which is what they're accusing westerners of doing.

>>220747937
Kek

The solution for piracy has always been proved and shown.
Spotify regressed music piracy back like 20 years. Most people aren't going on rutracker and searching for the songs

Just make things have an easy access

The Japanese side is correct here. It’s completely immoral to violate the law in any fashion. It’s a violence against the legitimacy of government, and therefore against all people, as stable government is necessary for the realization of human nature, and therefore the achievement of human happiness. However, these companies are also certainly being unfair to consumers.

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>>220756505
Thankfully my country has more or less accepted piracy as legitimate

>>220756186
JP companies are okay with it because it doesn't escape Japan, they can monitor it and use the law in cases they seem necessary. For westerners it's more slippery so better to smother it before it gets out of hand.

>>220747458
It's legal to download and pirate copyrighted materials. Thus, applying Japanese standards, it is moral to do so.

>>220756505
Nice bait

>>220748634
Finally someone said it

>>220748634
the japanese are already selling child pornography tho but they draw the line at video games lel

>>220757310
Obedience is not optional.

>>220757411
>>220756505
a crime is a transaction with the state and what I'm getting what I consider a favorable trade for me (I pay nothing I get free game), if japanese companies wish to interfer with me they can either:
a) change the goverment I'm trading with
or
b) fuck off

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i used to download anime raws from nyaa to practice listening and 95% of the seeders/leechers were from jap ips. there is also a japanese p2p client called Perfect Dark that's like 20 years old and i wouldn't be surprised if they still used that to get their animes

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I never robbed no citizen... stole a man's watch...

i cant post

>>220752486
The creator loses nothing

>>220748634
Japs (not you, Pvt Gomez), are xenophobes and actually prefer dirty foreigners NOT to buy their stuff. They grudgingly accept selling innocuous Doraemon, Dragonball, Hello Kitty etc to foreigners but they actually get embarrased when foreigners fawn over what they consider to be their "cringe" guilty pleasures, i.e., they like the cringe stuff but don't want foreigners to find out. So they hide behind the copyright while refusing to sell it in an easy to buy manner.

>>220750454
>>220750554
Japan really has something wrong when child abuse and rape can land you from a fine to just losing your job while pirating a nintendo game sends you to serve jail time
>>220757787
I used to download eroge/visual novels, and like 50% of the flags from seeders and leechers wre japanese, chinese flags were the second one like at 25% lol

>>220757983
>Japs (not you, Pvt Gomez), are xenophobes and actually prefer dirty foreigners NOT to buy their stuff.
Retarded zoomer weeb, japs literally bent over and open their assholes and censor as much as they can to get to sell their games on steam

>>220748634
1 - Nier was a free game, so they weren't really making money
2 - The server emulation doesn't provide game data, you have to find it yourself
How is it theft you yellow nigger

>>220757787
obviously zainichi

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>>220758349
so you idiot do not understand copyright
that is not excuse to do theft of copyright
this mindset of not respecting laws is why your country is low trust and poor development idiot

>>220758606
They didn't steal the code, they made their own code, and they don't provide the game assets.
Its like making a CD player made specifically for a type of CD, but not giving you the CD itself.
There is no law against that. If you wanna talk about "theft of copyright" what about Comiket and those otaku selling Pokemon lolicon doujinshi. Did gamefreak allow that?
I don't know if you're ragebaiting or you actually have brain cancer. Was it from Fukushima or did you inherit it when the atom bombs hit your grandparents?

>>220747458
>NOOOOO YOU CAN'T PIRATE THIS GAME WE REFUSE TO SELL TO YOU TO MAKE MONEY!!!
>YOU ARE HURTING OUR BUSINESS BY DOING THIS!!!
Why are nips like this?

>>220758781
They claim that even if the company isn't making money off the game today, they could re-release the game in the future and thus these mean pirates would be hurting the company's profits.

Japanese media has to be the most pirated of all time. Games, ROMs, manga, music, books, anime etc,.

>>220759527
imagine how much money they could make if they just sold it.

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>>220758708
doujin artist get permission from copyright owner idiot
the gaijin pirate did not get permission from square enix
it is not same idiot

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>>220760146

>muh cooyright
Bootlicking slave of the wealthy class

>>220760146
>doujin artist get permission from copyright owner
Yeah you're obviously baiting. The artists got permission to draw their prepubescent characters getting cummed inside? Show me proof lmao

>>220747937
>Still seething
Embarrassing

>>220747472
Suck my dick

>>220748384
Ywnbaw, commie troon

>>220748462
>Having money is le bad because...it just is okay!

>>220748826
Japan, unlike western countries, is safe for children.

>>220749509
Anime website, newfag

>>220750357
Piracy is a crime and harms the creator.

>>220750619
>fans infringing copyright because they want to play something that's no longer available and have no other options is not the same as theft.
Yes it is. Just because something is no longer on sale that doesn't give you the right to steal it.

>>220750853
You're a communist, you're in no position to call anyone else "bootlickers."

>>220752212
You're not entitled to be sold something.

I don't believe in copyrights.

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I only believe in copylefts.

>>220752678
>massacring civilians, raping women and torturing p.o.w.s
Never happened. Meanwhile these crimes are commonplace daily in brazil

>>220752796
>How?
Theft harms the creator
>Fuck IP/copyright laws
Not an argument.

>>220753098
He never said it's the same.

>>220754984
Tldr
Japanese otaku are real fans, western tourists are not real fans. Real fans support the creator, not harm them.

>>220758781
It's called morality, I wouldn't expect you to understand.

>>220760287
What's unjust about preventing theft and protecting intellectual property rights?

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>>220761804
>It's called morality, I wouldn't expect you to understand
I do expect him to understand. That makes me better than you.

>>220760256
Seething communist tranny.

>>220761821
>theft
what got stolen?
>protecting intellectual property rights
what did they lose?

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>>220761840
>what got stolen?
Your asshole. During basic training. Due to dedovshchina.

>>220761883
>a russian
wrong
>who is currently stealing Ukraine
wrong
>theft is wrong
right
but pirating is not a theft

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>>220761925
Nice pilpul, Ahmed.

>>220761925
>pirating is not a theft
Yes it is. The intellectual property belongs to the creator.

>>220762213
it's a crime of copyright infringement, patent infringement, or fraud in some cases, but not a theft. creator doesn't lose anything.
afaik you can uk laws allow pirating software unless you share it or make a profit of it.

>>220762213
>The intellectual property belongs to the creator.
Yeah but the book, DVD and game cart belongs to me. So I can copy it how much I want, the physical medium is mine.
Of course, I can't sell or distribute it, but I can copy it as much as I want.
Also since I can lend someone a book, DVD, or cartridge, I can lend the copy too, he's gonna return it to me of course ;)

>>220760287
I wouldn’t take my philosophical cues from a philandering rapist slaver and revolutionary.

>>220761566
denounce the talmud

>>220748634
Does he think that's logical argument? Are japs dumb?

>>220763907
Yes and yes

>>220747937
based and nuisancepilled

>>220747937
Y-YAMEROOO

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>>220747937
Beautiful.

>>220747458
>I-IT'S AGAINST TEH TERMS OF SERVICE!!!
I never agreed to terms of service tho. Not my problem.

>>220747937
Bodied that freak

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>>220747937
lol

>>220762420
Theft is theft idiot.

low morals subhuman japs say piracy is bad but buying used things is good

>>220765054
I'm just borrowing the game bro
I'll torrent it back, I promise

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>>220763907
your argument is we pirate because we do not care about rules and law
this mindset is why your country have high crime rate idiot

>>220747472
>do gaijins not know what copyright is?
Japanese copyright does not apply to me, as I can't read their moonrune laws :P

>>220753568
>all that is lie
cope harder lil bro

>>220765419
It's also why Japan is a nice place to visit but a horrible place to live.
Obsessing over rules, even if the rules are retarded, is a miserable existence.

>>220747937
Get comfy, king

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>>220765101
do not talk about morals when you cannot even follow basic rule and law idiot

>>220768924
>Buy some water
kek I can't believe how cucked you guys are, you can't even drink tap water? Don't you even have water purifiers or filters?
What a primitive society.

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>>220769387
you are not same level as japan idiot

>>220770338
>Drinkable water is avaliable for PURCHASE everywhere
Yeah even Brazil is beyond Japan, there are public fountains and most people just drink tap water or filtered water. You are subhuman if you're paying for something so basic.

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>>220770338
I want the Japanese to protect their country but they are so embarrassing and stupid

>>220747472
Copyright is scam. It only exists in Japan due to western imposition.

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>>220748634
What happens if cp becomes legal in Japan again? Does the entire Japanese internet get firewalled? Please that would be so funny. No more manga and anime and you couldn't even move there because everyone would judge you

>>220761821
For one, there is no such thing as intellectual property, therefor no one is obligated to respect laws that purport the existence of such a concept.

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>>220770651
your tap water and food is not safe to eat idiot
in japan you do not have to worry about salmonella or e coli unlike your country

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>weave za moruti-birrion dorra compuni aronaru

>>220771449
LOL

>>220771301
>raw egg
>raw fish
I guess in your primitive island they haven't invented fire yet?

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>>220771605
America brought them fire a couple of decades ago

>>220771301
we can eat raw pork in germany for the same reason

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>>220771898
>in GERMANY everyone has Toxoplasmosis because we eat so much raw meat and cat shit

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>>220771014
you still have backward mindset from middle ages idiot

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>>220752212
also that image was refute
gaijin really think theft is not bad thing

>>220747458
your victimhood complex rivals that of the jews, takeshi. all you do is complain about baka gaijin. maybe you should, you know, mind your own fucking business or something.

>>220775325
>the japanese portray themselves as thoughtless robots

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PLEASE STOP TORRENTING

PLEASE STOP STEALING JAPANESE WORKS

Japanese people ONLY make $654,837 a year after taxes for being animators!!!

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>>220771644
of course you idiot is proud of the genocide of innocent civilians

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>>220776161
More aroused than proud

>>220776161
Japan needs at least 5 bombings to fix itself

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>>220756677
>For westerners it's more slippery so better to smother it before it gets out of hand.
And I'm STILL mad about it.

look mom i posted it again

>>220775325
This is so funny I had to look it up and check the replies.
https://x.com/TairaNoKinmori/status/2044058546627850658

>>220775574
the japanese will portray themselves as literally anything except asian people

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>>220747458
Nippon, your science fiction is ours. Your mecha, our power armor. Your ships, echos of our fleets as if you won. You made your current world in our image

>>220773438
Yeah I don't think you know that much about your country's own history.

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japs be like
>low morale gains stealing animes... grr.. need punishment!
meanwhile

>>220747472
They've robbed people of a service some have paid for and others would pay for but cannot, and call anyone else scum. Nigga needs to kill himself.

Provide or permit.

>>220752384
It's data, not physical products.

The actual equivalent is "Stop looking at my nudes" "Then show me your goods in the flesh".

The rough equivalent they're going for is actual robbery. "Stop thieving my stock" "Then give me them for free", which isn't even what this image >>220752212 is saying anyway.

Sasuga for a larping Davido to be so bad at debate.

>>220760189
nobody should forget this
they're about as bad as chinks when it comes to bootlegs

>>220761821
Preventing people from accessing a service they paid for but was stripped from them with no compensation or reasoning.

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>>220770965
Then simply stop being a dumbfuck weeb who idolizes japs and japland; it was never a viable ideology.

Be an otaku, with selective interests and a personal agenda.

>>220751756
Your culture is literally shame based instead of guilt. You guys have a hard time with developing independent morality.

Also, stop selling stinking fish that make Australian children barf.

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>>220760189
That is all license production bakachon
It is you who copy

>>220747472
>>220747458
Isn't NIER this just a pedo game? Just like PRAGMATA or whatever jap shit

>>220757411
Incorrect. Obedience is only not optional when you can get caught, or don't want to deal with the consequences. As it's trivially easy to avoid getting caught for piracy, then obedience is very much optional.

>>220782198
I hope you don't post this on twitter, I wouldn't want it to be targeted

>>220782198
I went to check the website's traffic by country and it's actually real. How the hell?

>>220782198
that is all chinese who use proxy to illegal download idiot

>>220747472
rmao

>>220782657
copyright is intellectual property idiot

>>220786254
you're so bored you've gotten lazy with your larp

>>220747458
>we don't do that here, germany
:|
>we don't do that here, japan
:O

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>>220783355
japan has lowest sexual crime rate in the world idiot
if children try to go to school alone in your country they will receive attack or kidnap

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>>220773438
>Crusades
>Theft
Are you braindead or something? This is what real theft looks like

>>220786254
And intellectual property does not exist.

>>220772994
vegan cope

Only the Japanese who has never masturbated to illegally uploaded AV on Xvideo or posted unauthorized screencaps of anime and manga cast the first stone

>>220747458
Honestly this is making me question my decision to learn their language. I don't even hate Japanese people but is it worth spending thousands of hours on it?

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>>220788154
>is it worth spending thousands of hours on it?
not at all unless you decided to live in Japan

>>220788272
Listen man I don't care if you don't like piracy. I don't even care if you internally judge people for it. Crashing out over this is the dumbest shit. I don't know why but a lot of them seem to believe that the reason why people pirate is because they hate Japan somehow and not because they want inaccessible or free shit. I don't even think this was about piracy. I think they want to distract from the recent failures of their nation (stacking since the 90s) so they blame foreigners instead. Honestly what's the point. Even if they're a minority they're just too loud. It's like they actively hate you. I think maybe this is how white people feel about hip hop.

>>220787869
I only watch ladyboy thai

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>>220787583
you are both same theif mentality idiot

>>220789836
At the time of the crusades 90% of the middle east was Christians. Calling crusaders thiefs is like calling 朱元璋 a thief.

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>>220789904
you monotheists do not have morals
you just keep fighting endless religion wars and did slavery and colonialism
only shinto is peaceful because we accept all gods
learn history idiot

>>220790870
Christianity is the reason why Slavery was abolished worldwide.
Japan just abolished slavery within its own borders, because Shintos only care about Japan.

>>220788154
Do it if you think it's fun and you want to do it. That's why I do it.
It's not worth it in a monetary sense, most likely, but maybe in other ways that aren't easily quantifiable.

>>220747472
copyright is usury and all moral persons are obliged to undermine copyright whenever they are able

>>220748634
Corporations steal from their employees.

>>220750619
>>220761650
Selling something and taking it away is the real theft.

Reading these xitter threads, I've seen a lot of Japanese people who understand pirating material, but mainly take issue with people being proud about pirating it.

It reminds me of a scene in Zatoichi's Pilgrimage (座頭市海を渡る) where Ichi cuts off a thief's hand not for stealing, but for proudly bragging about stealing.

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>>220790928
unlike youre country we have no history of slavery
it was christian who was abduct japanese to use as slave
that is why toyotomi ban christian in japan
learn history idiot

>>220791168
Why do Japanese people get a pass for this retarded shit. I can guarantee you if they were Chinese the response would've been 100x worse. But no we have to understand their ancient culture of crying over someone preserving a gacha game.

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>>220791714
you are stealing creation copyright idiot
if you pirate you are not a fan

>>220794996
Why don't you guys go after Meta instead which has pirated 82 TB of books

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>>220795022
why do you not have respect for creator idiot

>>220761605
It harms the rights holder, not necessarily the creator, and then only if the rights holder is making the thing available for sale legitimately.

>>220796243
if everyone pirate then creator get 0 pay and will go bankrupt idiot

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>ROW MORAR GAIJIN COMMIT COPYRIGHTO NUISANCE!!! SHAMEFUR DISPRAY!!!
I should get a jap vpn too

>>220747764
The spiritual latinx is right, why would anyone care, specially for an abandonware game?

>>220798919
So this is why Christianity never took off in Japan. Jesus was pirating bread instead of paying the farmers. He clearly hated them and also hated Judea. Btw why do y'all think this is a national thing. I don't give a fuck if it's Japanese, if it's American, Ethiopian, Swedish, Kiwi, I will pirate it, do you think people are like "I hate Japan so much I'm gonna preserve a free-to-play gacha game."