>>65024844
Looks like a giant turd from the thumbnail.

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One tallboy west of Gaza and the problem simply goes away.

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The Gustav cpuld have done it,
Babylon could have cracked that.
But jews killed Bull and any other engineered who could have.
Enjoy the missiles and drones jew

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>>65024844
>It's gotta be nukes at minimum right?
Technically speaking, yes, Hydrogen molecules are involved.

>>65024844
Why everytime Iran topology got posted, their mountain range get bigger. They are not even that mountainous. They are not Swiss-tier. They are closer to Balkan interm of geography.

THEY
DONT
LIVE
ON
THE
MOUNTAINS

the same way you beat every other "unbeatable fortifications" in the past, nuke a few large population centers and trigger a mass refugee stream that will quickly overwhelm the fortresses supplies

>>65024851
I thought it was showing the country burnt to a crisp after being bombed to shit.

>>65024844
>Realistically, weapons can actually crack this?
What in the ESL is this supposed to mean? Are we being asked what weapons can crack Iran, or if weapons can crack Iran?

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>>65024944
the balkans are pretty mountainous

>>65025081
Poor Sumeria, right next to savage mountain tribes, they never stood a chance.

These posts are so bad I am starting to assume they are IDF agitators. Them B-2 strikes have hell proven how pointless the underground bunkers in Iran are.

Afghanistan is higher in average elevation AND steeper in elevation changes than Iran.
Not to mention the conditions ON Iranian mountains are so terrible that living up there, in bunkers or not is really unsustainable for long periods of time.
The infrastructure of Iran is so poor there still arent roads and railways to connect areas outside of the heartland.
The coast is choked off from the mainland.
The coast is indefensible.
The mountains are unlivable.
Half of the western population in the Zagros is sympathetic to the Kurdish resistance.
Mountains will be the least of the problems when the fighting reaches the cities.
Urban warfare is hell and with drones forget it.

>>65024902
Honestly, keeping around one or two Gustavs, mounted on a ship, just for specialty shore bombardment would have been based as hell.

>>65024944
Browns trying to look strong

>>65024844
Wow, I didn’t realize Iran’s mountains were 20 miles tall.

>>65024926
>they removed all the water from their reservoirs so destroying the dams does nothing
truly 5d chess masters

>>65025607
truly their genius astounds me

>>65025607
>kill their own people
>mismanage their own water
>destroy their own food supply
>shaft their own allies
>piss off their neighbors
>win ))))
Sun Tzu could’ve learned a thing from them.

>>65025607
Can't starve out your enemy if they don't have food or water already.

>so angry he had to reply to himself
Kekaroo

>>65024866
>West of Gaza
>Mediterranean Sea
Jesus fucking christ browns are retarded.

>>65025787
>>65025792
>Saar Iran is strong Saar!!!!

>>65025787
>1 million toman have been deposited to your account
Kek he mad

>>65025081
Even more impressive that Alexander conquered this entire region and barely had any casualties. Same for Genghis. Maybe Americans really do suck at warfare.

>>65025865
why do i keep seeing the people israel is bombing and they're less swarthy than them

>>65026012
Late Achaemenids were kind of a basket case of rebellions popping up, in fact the greeks had a nice dress rehearsal 40 years before Alexander through mercenary support for the rebel satrap of Lydia, Cyrus the younger. You got that Cyrus, Egypt going rogue, and Phoenician states conspiring with the Greeks, and I don't know what was happening in the wild northeast at the time but Scythians aren't known for their loyalty to weak suzerains

It took the british and soviets a few months in 1941

>>65024844
Aren't nukes not very effective vs mountains? Also we cant nuke our shipping lane

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>>65026012
Alexander had already won major battles in Anatolia, the Levant and Mesopotamia before entering the Iranian Plateau, and Darius had been assassinated by his attendants. Alexander had more or less become the acknowledged ruler of the empire, so it was much easier than it could have been. And it was still harder to conquer than the field battles he fought against the peak of the Achaemenid's army. It took him several years to subdue the place, and required him to marry the daughter of one of the regions most influential nobles to secure it. Had the Iranian tribes remained more loyal to the Persian nobility, and Darius not been assassinated, it could have been even worse, although I suspect Big Al still would have one. Dude was a genius and charismatic charmer.
But point being the Plateau itself was still an abosolute bitch to invade.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Persian_Gate

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>>65026012
It was partially America's fault for giving those people weapons in the first place, on multiple occasions. Now they more or less know how to use those weapons.

>>65027101
Looks like all British and Russian weapons in pic rel

>>65024844
You’re actually right, but not for the reasons you think. The only way for the United States to win is opening the Strait of Hormuz, which can only be done by denying Iranians the ability to launch anti-ship missiles. Dropping a huge amount of chemical and nuclear weapons near the coast would make the area uninhabitable, and any launchers being moved into position easier to spot. This is honestly the only way I could see avoiding boots on the ground, but honestly it’d cost half our nuclear arsenal and also be the most retarded decision in recorded history.

>>65024844
you are retarded. you don't need to blow up mountains because iranians dont live in moutains, they live in mountain valleys and those are just flat lands that lie between mountains.

the afghans do live in mountains, that's why they are very hard to defeat.
you just drive on the road to the next town in a valley, make sure you get the nearby high ground, bomb the enemies who are on high ground with your planes, then assault the town.

>muh mountains

>>65024844
iran is about as mountainous as california, with similar population dispersion, i.e. everyone lives in the fucking valley plains

if your job is to take San Bernardino or Bakersfield, that's what Iran is like

>>65026012
Mongolians don't count, their tactics involved just genociding anything that resisted for more than a minute. The Afghans were traumatized for centuries after Tamerlane slaughtered something like 20% of their population and stacked skull towers on every village. By contrast during Soviet occupation the Afghan pop remained stable, and under American occupation it kept growing.

>>65024844
Based Fremen dabbing on "emperor" and his sardaukar

>>65024844
The greeks, arabs, and romans all conquered it

Maybe we should consider phalanx tactics.

>>65026012
America+Israel also did a pearl harbor-tier strike without any war declaration and while ongoing negociation to fool them into thinking peace was still an option and they can't fucking stop some retarded theocracy from fucking up the whole region with flying lawnmowers. The number one military power in term of funding and airframes and naval tonnage btw. Safe to say they indeed suck hard if with all that going for them, they can't even win/prevent a counter-attack campaign. The soviet union at their peak couldn't win in Afghanistan despite sharing a land border and going genocide mode at times(personally thinking that america under Trump will go there too considering they already done a couple of war crimes by now). I really look toward an american ground invasion solely because im tired of arrogant retards acting smug and all mighty when all their power got handed to them by luck.
Thinking hard about it, America never really win without overwhelming material advantage. I almost wanted to say the exception that come to mind is the revolutionary war but France and to a lesser degree Spain were involved in fucking with Britain. Yeah economies are important in war, but that's not being good at warfare and having some gay ass attention whore ex-seal doing some podcast or selling stupid books being the poster child of your ""warrior"" culture is beyond cringe. Being good at warfare is Vietnam surviving against the French, American and Chinks and still being their own country or Napoleon winning against a million of coalition until he got too cocky and lost most of his army to winter and still managed to hold out for 2 years and still came back for one last time or Caesar who used superior diplomatic maneuvering to pit Gaul tribes against each others and leveraged superior engineering to build TWO walls in a siege.
This shit just illustrate how perfectly they are basically west Russia but richer so they throw money instead of serfs at their enemy.

>>65024844
I step back from the computer and turned around and OP's image looks like a black pussy

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>>65030460
>War should be fair and ceremonial

>>65030460
>This shit just illustrate how perfectly they are basically west Russia but richer so they throw money instead of serfs at their enemy.
and the money is just imagined out of thin air
the reason US finally backed off with Greenland was Macron telling Trump that France and rest of EU will end petrodollar

>>65027630
They could also just leave
tolling the strait will raise prices for everybody and not just the people Iran doesn't like because globalism, which means that all the political pressure the US is under to get the straits open would immediately switch to Iran, who are much less capable of simply shrugging it off due to their smaller size and crippled economy
I don't think it would take very long at all for diplomatic efforts to secure freedom of navigation through the strait under those circumstances, but it would require Donald T to take a public L and I doubt hes willing to let that happen

>>65024844
Yes, stone burners should do the trick.

>>65032028
>I doubt hes willing to let that happen
Its not up to Trump. The kikes will decide what the US military will do.

>>65024998
>refugee stream
Trying to defeat Iran, or Europe?

>>65024844
Send in the pedophiles I mean the marines, they seem to like getting wasted by the squad on mountains

>>65032050
Elite Ball Knowledge

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>>65027701
>By contrast during Soviet occupation the Afghan pop remained stable

>>65024944
>Why everytime Iran topology got posted, their mountain range get bigger.
the word your little mutt brain was probably looking for is "topography"
>They are not Swiss-tier.
yes, they are not swiss-tier. iranian mountains are significantly larger, higher and more extensive than those of switzerland
>They are closer to Balkan interm of geography
>interm
evidently idiocracy really was a documentary

>>65032125
afghanistan hasn't had a census since the mid 1970s retard, this is all guesswork and memes.

>>65031975
don't come crying again once someone ram an airplane in of your skyscrapper or bomb your navy in a "pre-emptive" special defensive operation out of nowhere

>>65031975
>fight dirty
>still lose
kek

>>65024902
>killed Bull
Ironically the worst thing they could have done, Israel should have him build their own babylon gun while ensuring Iraqs gun got sabotaged or took so much resources that it led to what is happening to Iran right now.

>>65033903
>this is all guesswork and memes.
>Tamerlane slaughtered something like 20% of their population

>>65035096
>tamerlane
The only motherfucker to actually conquer Afghanistan.

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>>65030509
>I step back from the computer and turned around and OP's image looks like a black bussy

>>65025081
Serbia isn't.
It's basically flat with some hills.
Most of the balkans the mountains just get ignored because noone lives there.

>>65031975
funny to see how mutts go into meltdown when basic decency is expected
not a Western culture

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>>65038459
>Most of the balkans the mountains just get ignored because noone lives there.
Yeees, move along.
Nothing to see here you filthy plains-nigger or Ottoman-slaver.

>>65024844
That's sloppography holy cringe

>>65034029
>entire military crippled and leaders dead
>we won

>>65038702
>basic decency is when you tell us when and how youre going to attack

>>65030460
Being disingenuous and stalling negotiations in bad faith while never planning on taking them seriously is literally what Iran has done for decades at this point. I think the initial strikes were based, Trump is an idiot and the American public wont support the levels necessary to truly win this war because I admit we think we are above violence/diplomacy can solve everything + the lingering nightmare that is USSR/KGB propaganda always fucking with us. But even if no single action Iran has ever undertaken warranted our response, their cumulative behavior and getting away with under-the-table shit is getting called out and I'm glad. I just wish we'd go full British imperialism and treat any non-uniformed rocket launch as partisan activity and start deleting cities off the map until Iran's government surrenders. And I say that genuinely wanting this conflict to be over and to try and un-Islam Iran, it deserves to be better than brainwashed jihadis. Honestly wonder if bleeding out the insane ones isn't the best idea in the long run. PR suicide, but I wish there was an option to let whatever elements of the government and the civilians get their martyr deaths, but Iran like Russia has convinced so many people to die for a cause they have never benefitted from.
>inb4 operation countenance, yeah that was a dick move especially since it amounted to "well you MIGHT side with the nazis so let's just invade you to prevent that" but ultimately radical islam is a greater threat to western hegemony and I'm tired of pretending otherwise.

>>65030460
Lol major cope. Stay inbred faggot

>>65032002
Yeah no lol

>petrodollar
Major brics giveaway lol

>>65038702
Imao. Why types this shit

>>65042993
Cumulative behavior provocation normally should get an escalation of the conflict as it continue until you get what you want. Could have done a lot before going straight for a war
> full British imperialism
There is a reason why gunboat diplomacy is a thing for the past. Look up the moroccan crisis prior to ww1. Do you think some shithole is worth getting into a global war over? Well it almost happened Morocco because Germany wanted some influence while the French were taking over. In the end, it happened over some inbred fuck getting shot in the balkans. They understood quickly over Cuba that direct provocations and shows of force can result in nuclear war. A pretty big cost for removing a couple of missiles from Cuba. Same thing with Korea, sometime the status quo or just not getting in a war with China is better than letting MacArthur fuck shit up.
If you are going to be a trigger-happy, then get used to the fact others will also be and that every time you do so you keep gaining enemies. Look at Napoleon, he could win his wars unlike Trump. However instead of talking to the Russians and negociating or changing his plans about the blocus on Britain, he went right into a war that would cost him everything. Same thing happened with Hitler, he kept getting victories in the field, outright fucking up previously neutral countries because they were in the way(benelux and Yugoslavia, the latter literally only got invaded because Hitler had to help Mussolini against Greece and solely because he didn't want to post-pone barbarossa and let an open front for the british down south). All that shit kept giving him enemies, USA didn't declare war on Germany but Hitler did it for them. Didn't matter that he had Leningrad under a siege and that the Soviets lost millions of people, he still lost because he had no one of quality on his side
Live by the sword, die by the sword. It only work if you never lose and there are pyrrhic victories worse than a quick minor defeat

>>65026012
Persians and Medes, the ruling ethnic groups, were like 10%% of the empire's population, their language wasn't even the lingua franca, aramaic was. Satrapies were more like tributary states than actual provinces, the "1000 nations of the persian empire" thing wasn't a lie, there was little to no unity beyond some vague oath of loyalty to the shah. As the other anon said, it was a basket case by the end, loss to the greeks shattered the myth of invisibility, civil wars galore, egypt breaking free, by the time alexander crossed the helespont the empire was a dead man walking, it would've collapsed within a decade or two without him

>>65032002
>t. It was real in my mind!!!

>>65042993
>Being disingenuous and stalling negotiations in bad faith while never planning on taking them seriously is literally what Iran has done for decades at this point
NTA,
Despite near everyone having reasons to destroy the Iranian regime, Donald STILL somehow managed to make them look like the honest ones.
He's the one who betrayed everyone ran out of a deal allowing to keep an eye on them, instead of proving (if he could) they were the one lying, by not doing so he basically made them right no matter the reality.

Because he's insecure and want to look like nothing happen without him Donald's dumb method is to create chaos, then wait for rational people to give him something in exchange.
But oops! It doesn't work on religious fanatics who gain simply from humiliating you the US, he dramatized it so much he basically strengthened Iran's regime.

It's basic geopolitic:
- show a country can't do shit against your superpower? = you look strong, they look insignificant
- show a country can cheaply resist your superpower? = you look incompetent, they look fierce

I bet I could have made a better job:
a) don't ask for a popular revolt if you don't consider they can succeed and aren't ready to help.
b) act as if the population need to prove themselves worthy of your help, so you aren't the one failing at anything, or redevable to anyone.
c) only do precision strike (using Israel as you puppet, not the reverse) to kill the showy leader to show you can anytime, making the regime look weak.
If Iranian decides to strike everyone in return, threatening their own source of money?
- they look like desperate one using "excessive force",
- they remain the evil bad guys everyone are at fault for ignoring,
- they are the one attacking other countries, and other can't blame you, only beg you for help.
NOT. THE. REVERSE.

Plus not forgetting who you should be weakening: Russia acting as a tool for China, not making them stronger because Donald wish he was a dictator.

>>65048927
>more esl nonsense

>>65048927
Ffs pass them through a LLM first, no one’s gonna read all that rambling

>>65024844
You're nuking the wrong country

>>65024844
>nukes
Only if you exaggerate the map a bit more.

>>65049626
>>65051038
Ignore these migger shills, keep up the high effort posts please.

>>65034016
Remember when Bill Maher got cancelled by conservatives for saying the 9/11 hijackers weren't cowards for that?
Pepperidge Farm remembers

>>65048927
extremely ESL, but honestly not wrong.

>>65026012
Well, when no media reports on you killing all the civilians, it's kinda easy to conquer.

>>65030460
>The soviet union at their peak couldn't win in Afghanistan despite sharing a land border and going genocide mode at times
Yeah I think using conscripts who didn't want to be there, that were being raped and beaten by anyone who outranked them, and that were selling their ammo for money to buy booze and food....wasn't winning any battles.

Imagine being in the USSR and going to a shithole and being upset the people in the shithole have more luxury than you did at home. That is the average Russian soldier seeing a farmer who owns a TV or a Radio.

>>65053139
>Yeah I think using conscripts who didn't want to be there, that were being raped and beaten by anyone who outranked them, and that were selling their ammo for money to buy booze and food....wasn't winning any battles.
but enough about US invasion

it's not purely about ability, it's about cost to benefit, at least when it comes to afghanistan. both superpowers at their time could not really justify staying there with this level of attrition and no benefit.
Iran on the other hand, is something that would have value to do this, but it's simply outside of ability of any country. No one can afford to garrison it all, most especially not US with their absolutely abysmally high deployment costs and they can't really get the populace on their side to do it themselves, especially now that they bombed them. Trump literally led himself into a dead end. Don't wanna be that guy, but it's almost like Hitler logic of "this fast sneaky play worked once, it can work again", except it obviously isnt going to this time

>>65024844
nope if you want to get to natanz 2(100 to 150 meters deep) not even nukes will do the trick

the largest crater a nuke has ever done was 83 meters

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Hold my beer

>>65024844
dig a whole under this and put a couple of nukes in
it will collapse under itself

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>>65054209
What about the secret super weapons? Could the zapper do it?

>>65027101
What are the tactical implications of fighting a battle in mountainous terrain while wearing loafers?

>>65056536
Over two thousand years and they are still seething. That man did something right.

>>65024866
1 week later, not looking so hot on this one kek

Welp, we got TACO. Iran gets to own the strait and demand toll. Negotiations will be on basis of Iran's 10 points.

>>65057421
I stand by the Creator Israel project.

>>65057474
>Pakistan gets the US to surrender to Iran
truly the most powerful race

>>65041046
Yes, that's how it works. If you fail to complete your military objectives, you lose. Iran now gets to charge a toll through what used to be international waters, all paid in Yuan.

>>65056338
Mountain goats don't need ankle protection. That's only for you low country sheep. Be sure to bring your kneepads so your girly little legs don't get scuffed up too.

>>65058834
>Iran now gets to charge a toll through what used to be international waters, all paid in Yuan.
HAHAHAHA riiiight

>>65060594
Iran went full troll and says it needs to be paid in crypto now.

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>>65057421
Hormussy straightus?

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>>65027676

California's terrain is considerably more habitable than Iran so if anything, its population is more dispersed into the mountains than Iran's. Los Angeles county for instance is literally full of mountains, many of which are at least partially inhabited.

>>65060838
why has no one done the sonic one eye two pupil thing on this yet? Is everyone the idea guy now even with ai?

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>mfw the US lost more aircraft than iran did

Nobody reply to this retard

>>65063310
If you're going to count drones you have to count every suicide drones iran has shat out as well

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>>65053139
>Yeah I think using conscripts who didn't want to be there, that were being raped and beaten by anyone who outranked them, and that were selling their ammo for money to buy booze and food
so exactly like how in ukraine. or chechnya. or ww2. or ww1. or russo-japanese war. or the crimean war. pretty much confirms ww2 is an anomaly caused by the american aid plugging in critical holes in their broken logistics

>>65025470
>how pointless the underground bunkers in Iran are.
Anon we still don't have an exact count on how much hardware Iran has because it's all underground in bunkers that we can't get to or don't know where they are

>>65064187
this image is so retarded.
7,000 tanks, whereas they produced like 45,000 T-34s alone.
11,000 "specialized" cars, whereas the soviets produced over half a million train cars.

>>65032002
SAAAAAAAAAAAR!

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>>65024844
In retrospect, nothing the US has. It's particularly embarrassing to see them reduce our President to Russia-tier "the gloves are coming of for real this time," shit, in between declaring victory for the 14th time, before finally giving them 100% of their strategic goals just to open the Strait...which wasn't even closed to begin with.

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>when you negociate a peace deal with the regime you planed to overthrow, you win !

>>65068602
>can’t see the rest of the image
>can’t remember what years the aid appeared
T >-<

>>65069311
I have started calling my mom "Donald" because she broke something in an attempt to make a change in the house just to put the same thing back, but now with a broken piece in her kitchen. She does not appreciate it.

>>65069354
Something tells me (you) were adopted and don’t do what (you) claim

>>65069349
>can’t remember what years the aid appeared
Mostly after 1943 lol, Germans already lost.

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>>65042993
I don't think people understand what kind of religious fanaticism they're dealing with when it comes to jihadists. Falling on their own sword just to make sure you die is a sure ticket to heaven in their minds (which is also why it's probably not a good idea to let them get nukes), and anything necessary to make that happen is a-okay for them. I don't think there's a way to diplomatically deal with people who want to kill you that much without inevitably saying "well, I don't want to die, so instead of that how about you get your ass kicked?"

>>65064180
do we count cruise missiles as lost aircraft? what about AGMs or guided bombs?

>>65068602
Cope zigger

>>65069360
I'm obviously not adopted because nobody would willingly take in a fucking /k/ poster. God himself cursed my parents with my presence, but I do call her that, and my dad laughs, so it's fine.

>>65025708
But enough about Americlaps

>>65071595
>"SEVERAL (number?) FACTORIES!!!!"
>Soviets literally uproot and move over 15,000 factories of their own to the Urals during Barbarossa
It's a dumb image for instatards like you.

>>65024844
>Will nukes do it?
You hit it with bunker buster fist and then nuke

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reminder iran is really inbred

>>65073411
I'm surprised that China is that low, arranged cousin marriages aren't uncommon.
I've met a couple of such couples.

>>65024844
Realistically I dont think any weapons can crack it no. Even a nuke on the capital wouldn’t really do very much.

The regime can probably operate from rural areas indefinitely and have enough mines and drones hidden away to keep the strait closed indefinitely, mainly because insurance providers are massive pussies who wont let ships cross if there is even 0.1% risk of losing the ship

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>>65073411
>pakistan 61.2%
Holy shit. They sure have been fucking their first cousin for 1000 years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkxuKe2wOMs

>>65073868
>I'm surprised that China is that low, arranged cousin marriages aren't uncommon.
Isn't first cousin marriage illegal in china?

>>65073952
>Isn't first cousin marriage illegal in china?
Seems like it, yes.
I'm a little puzzled now because a few couples were described as cousins.
It might be that "cousin" (表親) was used casually to describe removed cousins, though Chinese has words for that. It might also be that they marriage registrar just didn't check or was bribed not to.

>>65073952
That chart will an underestimate, except for cuckoldry, since cultures that approve of cousin marriage will do so for multiple generations.
The chart assumes that your parents have zero relation, if they're above that then the effect is compounded and their children will have over 50% relation.

>>65077268
>The chart assumes that your parents have zero relation, if they're above that then the effect is compounded and their children will have over 50% relation.
Well for some reason I have not found any chart that assumes that ones parents and their parents and so on have been fucking their first cousin for 1000 years. Most english cousin or family tree charts just assume no inbreeding is happening lol. I dont even want to imagine how close the genetic similarity is going to be after just 7 generations.

https://howmanygenerations.com/
According to this website that is using the japanese emperors family line since I pressume is very well documentated but anyway after 1008 years there will give you 38 generations. How inbreed will the current 2020 generation be assuming first cousin marriage being the norm? 99% genetic similarity between parent and child?

>>65077512
Is that rape chink I smell? The spacing and random mention of chinese historical superioirty and how Japan has to "respect" confucius, completely ignoring the main subject (pakistan inbreeding). Only a seething chink would type like this.

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>>65024866
You ain't opening shit either.

>>65077512
Queen Iyo gave Japanese women as tribute to China.

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>>65077695
ya know that time the British blockaded the suez canal?
that worked out well for them. good luck tho.

>>65077865
>uhhh yppo lost a similar war 80 years ago!

So Iran is pretty much defeated right? Feels like this is all political theater.

>>65077932
>So Iran is pretty much defeated right?
They were defeated day 1, anon, and then again every day until today, and somehow the war hasn't ended.

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Well well well.

>>65078801
Well whadaya know... its TACO Tuesday

>>65077817
The Tang gave an emperor's niece as tribute to Tibet

>>65079182
Meant to say Gaochang not Gaichang.

>>65079182
>>65079188
>>65079200
understand Chinkspammer that you have admitted three things:
>that a Han chinese dynasty was defeated and conquered by non-hans on several occasions
>that these military defeats led to substantial and lasting influence on Han culture
>that one of the results of this cultural influence was the institutionalization of marrying Han Chinese daughters to foreigners (aka the highest form of cuckoldry)
Don't bother trying to explain yourself, I have already reported you to the CCP for bringing shame to the Chinese people. I hope you have fun at the re-education camp.

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