If there was a market for it, .30 SC wouldn't have died since it's the same thing but better.

>>65080658
52k psi is a bit much, .30 luger could easily be 40k just as .357 sig is. Only downside is it doesnt take .312 bullets like .30 sc, .327 mag, .32 h&r, .32 s&w long(and even .32 acp) all do where at least .32 s&w long still has fairly common usage in target shooting

>>65080670
You could just use lighter loads, the pressure of .30 SC is so high because it's supposed to have similar muzzle energy to 9mm, but .30 Luger has less energy than 9mm for a given load since it has a smaller swept area. Maybe .30 SC would have survived if they'd offered factory light loads closer to 7.65 French Long, but I doubt it. It wasn't the pressure that killed the cartridge, it was the lack of demand for .30 caliber pistols.

>>65080670
>asks for modern pressures
>is given modern pressures
>nooo not like that!!!

>>65081142
>It wasn't the pressure that killed the cartridge, it was the lack of demand for .30 caliber pistols.
The purest, finest, distilled copium.
.30 Super Carry failed because :
- The ONLY thing it offered was more capacity in a platform that already has a minimum 15+1. There is no conceivable situation in which a civilian is going to find themselves where 20 rounds in a single mag is going to get the job done where 15 wouldn't.
- It was released at a time when releasing ANY new cartridge, even a good one, would have been difficult if not impossible to begin with. Between economic stress, panic buying, shortages, etc, and other pandemic effects; the vast majority of consumers couldn't care less about the shiny new thing. Everyone just wanted thing that was proven to work. Add resentment from folks mad that components were being used on shiny new thing that could have been used on thing that was proven to work; and that extra demand for those components was driving up cost of thing proven to work because there was greater demand for component supply; and you get a consumer base that wants nothing to do with it.
- All of two guns chambered for it on release. Neither of which offered anything beyond more capacity. They weren't offered at super low cost, or with free red dots, or three extra magazines, or any real enticement to help a new buyer mentally offset the cost of expensive new caliber versus cheap 9mm or .380.
- It was just a shit idea that even in a time of economic and material plenty would probably have failed because (again) its ONLY advantage over other calibers in the same platform is capacity. And in that platform you're already at "more than enough to get the job done" capacity.

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>>65081239
>two guns
Ahem.

>>65081336
That came out like 2 years after, the $4000 nightcawk came out a few months after the incredibly interesting choice of lineup by smith and wesson

>>65081239
Should've made a variant of the FPC that took quad-stacks.

>>65081450
And a fullsize m&p and and and- oh well

>>65080554
7.65mm Luger is just nutless 7.62mm Tokarev.

>>65081779
I would also love some 7.62 tokarev but its only available in a gay shitty singlestack gun and doesnt even have a glonk conversion barrel or anything like that

>>65081239
>The ONLY thing it offered was more capacity in a platform that already has a minimum 15+1. There is no conceivable situation in which a civilian is going to find themselves where 20 rounds in a single mag is going to get the job done where 15 wouldn't.
Okay, so why would a cartridge with identical performance but no additional capacity do any better? There are literally no advantages to .30 Luger over 9mm.

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>>65080554
>.30 Luger makes a comeback
>You don't buy it because you people never buy the shit you make these threads about

>>65081787
Can you really get Glock barrels in .30 Luger? Who the fuck buys them?

>>65080554
It's an indictment of our billionaire class that there are no pet projects to do things like that, or new production historical pieces.

>>65081239
>There is no conceivable situation in which a civilian is going to find themselves where 20 rounds in a single mag is going to get the job done where 15 wouldn't.

2A was not conceived with petty personal protection in mind. There are 200k 'Special Interest Aliens' + 20k known terrorists *that the gubmint knowns of* thanks to the Corn Pop Admin. Tet Offensive scale bullshit from entire divisions of combat veteran spooks from the four corners of the earth is hardly 'inconceivable'. The average emergency services response time will be multiples of the current 50 minutes. Which is not to excuse .30 SC being vaporware.

>>65082352
>2A was not conceived with petty personal protection in mind.
So? What does that have to do with the discussion?
>uh it means muh rights and
Nobody cares retard. We're talking about pistols.
>corn pop
Trump is letting them in too and refuses to build the wall, remove illegals, or even kick out Haitians to go back to hell where they belong.
>Tet Offensive scale bullshit from entire divisions of combat veteran spooks from the four corners of the earth is hardly 'inconceivable'.
It's retarded and if it happens it will be a false flag orchestrated by the Republican party with the express purpose of getting retards like you to accept a draft to send White Americans to die for Israel.

Making your pistol suck for carry isn't going to make it any more suitable for war. Stop being retarded.

>>65081239
There's no reason someone couldn't have chambered it in a pocket carry subcompact.