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I'll start. Pic-related is a Philippines M113s with a 30mm Elbit Systems Turret
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>>65082808
Right. But the turret seems to be heavy and well-armored, contrasting with the vehicle below it. I'm not saying the M113 is a bad vehicle, especially for the Philippines specifically. I'm just saying it seems like an odd choice for this particular turret.
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>>65082853
Armor doesn't count for squat these days in the era of drones and handheld anti-tank. What this thing needs is HEAT protection so cages all over, and sponsons! Sponsons for more machine guns or autocannons to deal with infantry! Then more turrets for machine guns to shoot down incoming drones! It will become the true perfect infantry fighting vehicle and I shall call it the Battle Gavin!
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>>65082921
Philippine military procurement is its own special hell of military guys pointing out what they need, bureaucrat guys telling the military guys what the country & its military infrastructure could afford, and politicians looking to plunder its funding or skim off the top.
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>>65083209
>military guys pointing out what they need, bureaucrat guys telling the military guys what the country & its military infrastructure could afford, and politicians looking to plunder its funding or skim off the top.
That's just normal turdie procurement.
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>>65082921
Egypt was planning on making a Bradley at home in the truest sense at one point, an FMC incest baby with a m113 or AIFV hull with a brad turret
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Oh wait I just read they bought their 25mm turret YPRs on super end of history firesale just around the time EIFV was finishing development.
That explains it, it's hard to argue against 75% or so capability for 10% of the price but an IFV without a ATGM just feels flaccid, let alone without the Brad's sexy doppelTOW box
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Indonesia and Singapore got the Leopard 2. Phillipines got the Sabrah light tank, Thailand got Oplot and everyone else in SEA got some flavor of T-72 and T-55.