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>>65200612
Pretty fucked. They can just loiter and glass the planet from space while their fighters intercept any ballistic missiles we might somehow send their way.
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>>65200612
You literally cannot fight back, unless you manage to infiltrate the ship and sabotage its critical systems.
It's like a US carrier group pulling up on an island nation that only has biplanes.
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>>65200612
We get to become part of the Galactic Empire.
The survivors will anyways.
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>>65200612
Why are they here? What is their objective?
If they're just going to chimp out and start blasting stuff, there isn't much we can do.

Theu don't have the manpower to pull off a planetary invasion or occupation.

Their sensors seem to be ass so we can probably sneak a 20megaton warhead in on an orbital maneuver.

How long can they stay on station without resupply?
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>>65200612
They're probably lost as hell and extremely cut off from their supply lines with no hyperspace route home.
Unless their CO wants to try to take earth as his fief at turbolaser point I think negotiation is probably where they'd go first. After all, they're not aliens. The empire are just a bunch of guys in funny outfits.
They have no hyperspace maps of this galaxy and absolutely no idea if any other planets with intelligent life are nearby so glassing earth, likely even glassing every capital city would not be in their best interest.

They would probably make whatever government they threw in with the global hyperpower though.
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>>65200625
>How long can they stay on station without resupply?
Fuel/power?
Indefinitely.
Rations are probably dehydrated and molecular. Crew size is ~40k and some sources say they have hydoponic bays.
They also could just send TIEs and Landing ships and forage.
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Exactly as fucked as the script writer thinks we should be.
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>>65200637
>They have no hyperspace maps of this galaxy
Pretty sure an SD has the sensing and computing capability to create relatively short jump maps in uncharted space.
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>>65200622
We have this.
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>>65200752
No Asgard beams!
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>>65200665
As far as I know that's not how it works and hyperspace mapping is an extremely dangerous task.
Even then they're just inchworming along blindly, hoping they blunder close enough to another intelligent star system to pick up their comms on sensors while their stores dwindle, morale decays and the chance of something important breaking increases.
Genuinely, even with how rigid the empire is they'd be at risk of mutiny for doing anything but opening negotiations. Especially since earth is a planet of humans rather than disgusting ayy lmaos
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>>65200612
if they want to sit in orbit and fling boogers at cities then good for them they would probably get the UN to surrender but if they want to actually HOLD the planet then hooo boy. it would be like trying to knock down that hornet's nest in your shed by fucking it. Imagine Afghanistan, Ukraine, Vietnam and red dawn had a baby and the dad's are Osama Bin laden, Timothy McVeigh, Hanoi Hanna and Patty Hearst
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>>65200800
"and Patty Hearst."
So, why include a richbitch coalburner?
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>>65200813
I couldn't think of a second girl :/
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>>65200612
Disney or EU?
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>>65200800
It's a lot easier to hold the global Vietnam when your local ally force is the entire US military.
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>>65200661
This is the correct answer. Otherwise I'm hoping to bribe the ship from the other Imperial Navy that also showed up.
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>>65200818
EU ofc
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>>65200831
Well then Earth is fucked.
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>>65200797
The Millenium Falcon can cobble bits together to do the Kessel run in under 12 parsecs. Which is a navigation feat of shortest possible routes around nonstationary gravitational bodies
You mean to tell me that the Imperial equivalent of an Iowa does not have at least mediocre organic navigation equipment?
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>>65200797
>>65200844
It is fair to presume they have quantum computers. They have droids. They have a staff that is multiple Divisions or a small Corps.
I refuse to believe that should they find themselves in uncharted space they would be helpless, despite how the films may portray them as incompetent.
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>>65200797
>risk of mutiny
Rotate crew for R&R on landing craft. Encourage "non-consensual intercourse."
All subjects to be disposed of before return.
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>>65200612
Are Will Smith and Jeff Goldblum still alive for this?
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>>65200852
>They have droids.
Right at the start of Empire Strikes back their Star Destroyers are scouring the Galaxy with hyperspace capable probe droids to find a Rebel base, they also have scout ships like shuttles. I think they could map out a relatively safe lane between point A and point B provided our Galaxy isn't uniquely hazardous in some way. Couldn't do it forever unless those ships have a manufacturing center on board though... or they conscript locals to build it for them.
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>>65200866
>Take dictation
>Read back, on screen
>Comma here*, semicolon here*
>Small screen for signature
>Stow in ships logs, send multiple versions to High Command on varying channels, Advise senior NCOs, wait 3 hours and then general dissemination to full crew.
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>>65200873
We have the Kuiper and Asteroid belt but don't we see SDs tanking that with concern?
And I assume the probe droids are because; An SD vould just LEO and scan your planet.
But that would alert anyone there. Wven with stealth, you are going to notice a massive black hole where background should be.
The question is why cannot a ship the size and power of an SD do active camo and project the signature of what is behind it?
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>>65200765
We don't need beams we have teleporters and nukes.
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>>65200844
Han was still working with a known hyperlane, an old and fairly well documented one at that. And luck played no small part in it.
Navigating in wild space and the unknown region is explicitly seen as extremely dangerous to nigh impossible. Surveying it and establishing hyperlanes is slow and expensive process.
Most of the Galaxy's hyperlanes are ancient at this point and required long eras of peace and prosperity to build up
>>65200852
It's not imperial incompetence, without even a basic map it's like walking into a minefield
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IMPERIAL HOLONET BROADCAST: THE TRUTH THE REBELS DON’T WANT YOU TO HEAR
CITIZENS OF THE GALAXY – STAND WITH ORDER!
For too long, the corrupt Old Republic let weakness, bureaucracy, and radical “progress” tear our galaxy apart. Senators bickered while pirates, smugglers, and Jedi mystics ran wild. Crime skyrocketed. Economies collapsed. Planets begged for protection.
Then the EMPIRE rose – the strong, disciplined, conservative force that saved civilization.
We stand for the timeless values that built greatness:

Law and Order – No more chaos in the streets. Stormtroopers keep the peace so you can raise your family in safety.
Strength Through Unity – One Emperor. One military. One galactic standard. Borders secured. Trade routes protected. No more open borders for Hutt cartels and Separatist scum.
Traditional Galactic Values – Family, duty, merit, and self-reliance. Hard work for the Empire earns you prosperity – not handouts from some socialist “Senate.”
Peace Through Superior Firepower – The Death Star wasn’t a weapon of terror; it was the ultimate deterrent against anarchy. A shield for every loyal world.

Under Emperor Palpatine’s visionary leadership, we ended the Clone Wars, crushed corruption, and delivered two decades of unmatched stability. Trade booms. Planets prosper. The right-wing way works.
Now look at the so-called “Rebel Alliance” – a left-wing terrorist network hell-bent on dragging us back into darkness:
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>>65201049
Radical Revolutionaries: These are not “freedom fighters.” They are Marxist-style insurgents funded by shadowy elites on Mon Cala and Corellia. Their goal? Tear down everything we built and replace it with their utopian “New Republic” – code for endless committees, wealth redistribution, and Jedi superstition ruling from the shadows.
Terrorist Tactics: They blow up Imperial star destroyers with suicide runs. They assassinate loyal governors. They hide weapons on peaceful worlds like Alderaan, then scream “genocide” when we neutralize the threat. Classic left-wing playbook: create chaos, then cry victim.
Unchecked Crime: Take the Wookiees of Kashyyyk – these brutish, fur-covered beasts are notorious for their primal rages and unprovoked attacks on civilized beings. Under the weak Republic, they roamed unchecked, tearing limbs from anyone who crossed their feral paths. The Empire wisely integrated them into productive labor details, channeling their raw aggression into building our grand infrastructure. Without firm Imperial guidance, these violent animals would revert to savagery, endangering us all. Yet the Rebels stir them up, turning them loose as weapons in their chaotic crusade.
Hypocritical Elites: Princess Leia Organa – spoiled royal playing revolutionary. Luke Skywalker – farm boy radicalized by a washed-up mystic cult. Han Solo – smuggler turned useful idiot. They preach “equality” while their leaders live in luxury and send wave after wave of brainwashed youths to die for their cause.
Attacks on Civilization: They destroyed the Death Star – a $200 quadrillion peace project that would have ended all major wars – killing millions of honest Imperial workers and soldiers in the process. That wasn’t heroism. That was mass murder by left-wing extremists who would rather rule ruins than live in order.
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>>65201050
The Rebels aren’t liberating anyone. They’re destroying the galaxy’s best hope. They recruit with slogans like “Hope” and “Freedom,” but deliver only bombings, blockades, and bankruptcy. Every “victory” they celebrate leaves planets poorer, crime higher, and families mourning.
The Empire is the right-wing bulwark against left-wing terrorism.
We built the future. They want to burn it down.
JOIN THE EMPIRE TODAY
Enlist. Report rebel sympathizers. Buy Imperial bonds.
Peace. Order. Prosperity.
LONG LIVE THE EMPEROR!
THE REBELLION WILL BE CRUSHED.


This message approved by the Imperial Ministry of Truth and Security. Dissent is treason.
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>>65200612
Se simply send our own Thai fighters
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THE CONFEDERACY WILL RISE AGAIN
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>>65200612
Threaten to destroy the Galactic Empire with a demographic nuke consisting of 1 billion jeet migrants if they don't lift the blockade. Even if they base delta zero Earth they can't possibly kill all of them, nothing short of the Death Star would do that.
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>>65200885
>We have the Kuiper and Asteroid belt but don't we see SDs tanking that with concern?
The ISD that tanks an asteroid to the bridge just straight up dies, it's just no one else gave a shit because they're villains.

Of course the asteroid belt and Kuiper belt aren't nearly as dense as movie equivalents. You could jump through either one completely blind and have a good shot at not hitting anything.
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>>65201053
We're going to hang stormtrooper helmets over our fireplaces when this is done
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>>65200612
utterly and mercilessly completely stuff fucked. There would be literally nothing we could do....Unless they went completely retarded due to plot reasons.
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>>65201053
Who remembers that time The Emperor's right hand man chopped up a bunch of children with a laser sword? I remember.
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>>65200625
> If they're just going to chimp out and start blasting stuff, there isn't much we can do.
Pretty much

>Theu don't have the manpower to pull off a planetary invasion or occupation.
You assume a whole lot of loyalty living in the hearts of most of the planet. Most governments have the begrudging tolerance of their people, not their loyalty. Especially ones with a very loose national identity.

>Their sensors seem to be ass so we can probably sneak a 20megaton warhead in on an orbital maneuver.
Canonically able to scan unshileded ships. We can't begin to understand that. And we have nothing even remotely capable of mimicking their shields or even their repulsor technology.

>How long can they stay on station without resupply?
Who says they won't get resupplied?

They can take out every sensor we could deploy or build from orbit, so radar is gone, satellite comms are down as soon as their tractor beams go online, their droids are probably hacking whatever the hell is left of our communications grid. They can easily land on any of a thousand remote spots to resupply anything they want.

Except fuel. I'm not too up to date on what Ships use for fuel in the SW Disney verse.
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>>65200612
*sigh* Again, ANY civ. that has the means to easily cross the Void will have no issue whatsoever re-Hadean Earths surface.
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>>65200625


>Theu don't have the manpower to pull off a planetary invasion or occupation


Lets say for arguments sake, they take a tiny sample of their advanced tech and touch down on, say, New Zealand. Now, normally, if it was an invasion, They might have just declared war on the whole damn commonwealth. But these guys are zipping around space like nothing. A trip to the asteroid belt can potentially yield a few thousand pounds of gold. And we're a primitive backwater.

One or maybe two of our nations would qualify as a 3rd world shithole to them, barely livable if you don't mind roughing it and are really into "rustic" living. We covet a bunch of shiny rocks. We kill people for shiny rocks. They can get a lot of shiny rocks. Why not give the NZ parliament some shiny rocks? A whole lot of them. Enough to, not purchase the country, that would be too vulgar, but secure your captain as the new Grand Minister for life. Voted on by the HoR 122 to 1. Now, there might be some resistance, yes, they might get called traitors, yes. But the Imperials have 2 things, thousands more years of collective political and economic theory and motherfucking space ships. If they make NZ good, and I mean, fucking GOOD....Do you really think we're ALL going to be lining up behind the assholes in our respective capitals telling us how good they are running the show when we see fucking Auckland getting a glow up that makes NYC look like New Delhi?
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>>65200612
What do they want? If it's to rule, we might be better off with them over the clown show of the present.
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>>65201571
A bigger stage does not mean a better performance.
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>>65201571
If it's just some imperial navy captain stuck in this galaxy with his surface action group it might be better, if somehow the galactic empire is dragging it's entire ass all the way from far far away it could be significantly worse.

That said, we're still humans and the empire is into that kind of thing.
It'd probably get a lot of scientific interest on what humans are doing way out here.
Then they'd find out about George Lucas and shit would get weird
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>>65200612
stupid premise
let me spice it up a little

About two minutes after the Imperial battlegroup arrives in orbit, a Lucrehulk and two Providence-class CIS warships arrive as well.
Both groups ask to contact "the leader of the Earthlings" and offer to induct the planet into the Republic and Confederacy respectively.
Both of them say Earth will be better off with their side, don't trust the other.

What happens?
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>>65200625
>>65201571
This isn't the Empire. It's just another rogue moff Penis Galactus from another Imperial remnant who happened to discover an unknown inhabited system during his explorations.
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>>65201732
If it's just a rando warlord and not one of the big remnant factions, he doesn't have nearly enough resources for occupation of a planet as populated and developed as Earth and those three star destroyers might actually be everything he has. Counterinsurgency on a comparatively heavily armed planet with 7-8 billion people would ruin any small faction in Star Wars.
As long as we avoid an orbital bombardment, whether by preemptively killing them or through diplomacy, it should be fine.
>>65200625
>Their sensors seem to be ass so we can probably sneak a 20megaton warhead in on an orbital maneuver.
More like a couple dozen several megaton bombs per star destroyer. Power scaling in Star Wars is wildly inconsistent and it's better not to take any chances.
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>>65201053
On one hand, the Empire were a bunch of oppressive dicks that openly murdered the humans on the rim they claimed to be helping en-masse.
On the other hand, the New Republic was just the last dying grasp of the incompetent old one screaming at the wind "I'M STILL IN CHARGE" instead of trying to fix the corruption that made it fall to begin with, banking on everyone replacing critical thought and their continued hardship with "Empire bad, m'kay," hoping that switching the house of the senate to the other core worlds every once and a while might fool anyone in the mid and outer rim into believing they'd get anything out of this arrangement.
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>>65200815
>I am forgotten
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Do we even have a chance in a ground warfare?
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>>65201862
>corruption
Are you taking Darth Tyranus at his word again? cause if you are, I've got a bag of immortality to sell you too
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>>65200612
Completely. They're going blast us from space and we have no hope of doing anything but token damage, likely with shit tier missiles that scratch the paint.
But we're going to close the strait to the moon, so we won completely and utterly.
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>>65200612
literally just fly rockets with nuclear warheads at them
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>>65200622
does that island have nuclear missiles?
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>>65201954
I wouldn't worry about it.
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This is a retarded thread
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>>65200612
>ATTENTION PEOPLE OF EARTH, SURRENDER TO OUR IMPERIAL MIGHT
>*Fuckhuge battle.mp4*
>Admiral DeathEvil, the earth people continue to resist us, perhaps we can offer something that will make then submit?
>Great idea captain MurderObliterator, have we obtained any information on what they might want?
>Well there is a small race of humans on the planet, the 'jews' which appear to be hated amongst all peoples yet they control the primary banking, media and political structures of every nation
>ATTENTION PEOPLES OF EARTH, JOIN US AND WE WILL DESTROY THE JEWS ONCE AND FOR ALL
>Fighting stops immediately, 99% of the planet defects to the imperials overnight, israel obliterated
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>>65200612
> ATTENTION ALL PLANETS OF THE SOLAR FEDERATION!
ATTENTION ALL PLANETS OF THE SOLAR FEDERATION!
WE HAVE ASSUMED CONTROL!
WE HAVE ASSUMED CONTROL!
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>>65200618
Three THOUSAND star destroyers couldn't "glass" a planet you faggot, go back to whatever sci fi forum spat you out.

>>65200622
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>>65200625
>>65200657
They would run out of food before they achieved anything other than fulfilling the dreams of every decent human being by burning down a few cities.
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>>65201307
They deserved it and you're a commie if you disagree.
You're not a commie, are you?
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>>65201989
>just like Jesus taught
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So does Earth in this scenario know what Star Wars is? Because that would make things very awkward.
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just send in the space shuttle with the m2 browning door gunner (can't find pic, I have failed you all)
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>>65200622
Yeah but according to browns when they manage to not be exterminated after being repeatedly bombed with zero retaliation, this apparently counts as winning. So I think we could win.
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>>65200612
>1 Imp SSD vs 2 Rep SSD
We're only fucked the moment we run out of popcorn. Watch the fuckers blow each other apart in low earth orbit.
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>>65202017
>Three THOUSAND star destroyers couldn't "glass" a planet
Wrong.

>run out of food
Idiot take.

>muh burning cities is actually a good thing
Ah, you're one of those absolute subhuman retards.
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>>65200800
Given how Imperials roll? They'll just solve the problem of occupying a planet of 8 billion people by turning it into a planet of like 1-2 billion shell-shocked survivors sitting in effectively large-scale concentration camps. No people, no problem.
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>>65201204
>a demographic nuke consisting of 1 billion jeet migrants
You could import a billion jeets to Coruscant and nobody would ever notice a difference.
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>>65202086
Mid-Clone Wars Republic is effectively the Empire before taking off the mask.
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>>65201954
No, we have absolutely nothing to compare to Star Wars tech, even 1st world infantry would get absolutely bodied by stormtroopers, they're basically supersoldiers. We're used to seeing them get mowed down by blasters, because their armor can't handle direct hits from blaster bolts. But at the same time it's impossible to kill a stormtrooper with bullets unless it hits the body glove or eye lenses. Also their armor provides excellent protection against explosions and fragments, they're immune to biological and chemical weapons due to their built in filters, they can operate comfortably in all extreme environmental conditions, their helmets have built in HUDs with motion sensors and environmental data and targeting diagnostics, snd their vision is immune to darkness and glare and smoke. Plus their weapons can fire hundreds of shots before needing to be reloaded, and blaster bolts are unaffected by gravity or wind or other environmental conditions.
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>>65202110
Ewoks.
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>>65201954
>sloppa
Most military ground forces in Star Wars, with the exception of actually competent special forces units, have mediocre to dogshit equipment, tactics, doctrine, composition, etc. Even the Stormtrooper Corps or Clone troopers, above average by the standard of infantry forces in Star Wars, kind of suck compared to modern infantry. Also, contemporary weapons like firearms are consistently depicted as effective in Star Wars visual media like games, comics, and film, and sometimes effective in literature.
While the Galactic Empire, Republic, NR, CIS, etc. could feasibly field a planetary invasion force with the quality or quantity to successfully occupy Earth, it's not like a fleet of 1 ISD and 2 Venators can do that.
>>65202096
That's what we want them to think. Jeets are a slow acting demographic poison on highly populated core worlds, where they can fly under the radar and multiply, take over and enshittify public and private institutions, and bring absolute ruin to public sanitation and safety, which will only become apparent decades or centuries later, by which time it will be too late. Also, there's plenty of economically and politically important outer rim and even mid rim worlds that have tiny populations that would be instantly nuked by a large influx of jeets.
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>>65202123
Something something the will of the force/children's movie
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>>65202110
>But at the same time it's impossible to kill a stormtrooper with bullets unless it hits the body glove or eye lenses.
Stormtrooper armor is decent but not that good, that claim isn't actually consistent with what see or read in Star Wars media. Various different factions, including the Empire and Rebels, make use of slugthrowers without much issue. That one side charging pump shotgun also seems ubiquitous even among groups that can acquire blasters, and IIRC is capable of killing people pretty easily both in lore and in video games. Arrows and blunt force trauma have also been shown to incapacitate or kill stormtroopers through their armor.
Also, Imperial Army and Navy ground troops don't have as much armor coverage as Stormtroopers.
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>>65202151
So what saying if we hit them hard enough with say a brick they'll turn to paste?
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>>65202061
Sounds like a fantastic bargaining chip.
If they all resist zero-summing we can give them the intelligence coup of the millennium. The ISB is going to cum.
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>>65202171
We could also offer them Kathleen Kennedy as our superweapon. Death Star might destroy planets but she'll destroy an entire universe!
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>>65202093
They did tend to treat humans better and sometimes even waited until there was a civil war so that they could intervene as a liberator.
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>>65200612
Difficult part would be figuring out how to board and capture one of those destroyers to reverse engineer the tech
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>>65201327
*sigh* Again, ANY civ. that has a reason to cross the Void will is going to want the planet intact.
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>>65202313
System
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>>65200612
A single Imperial can glass earth from orbit and its shields are stronger than any nuke ever made, so very fucked as we have no defenses against it.
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Why is there so many Star Wars threads being spammed on /k/ at the moment?
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>>65202349
Because it is a staple of the board.
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The ISD could just rain down megawatts of hate and outside of nook spam theres not much we could do. Im sure an ISD has radiation shielding so nukes are gonna have to transfer enough thermal energy into the ship, which likely can handle near star orbits.
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>>65201571
Imperials are communist so probably not
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>>65202376
Imperials are "The Man". Theyre tight fisted in some areas and loose in others, whatever gives them control.
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>>65200820
I always find it funny when people try to compare the IOM navy with the Galactic Empires navy. There's no comparison, the GE's maximum engagement range starts inside the point defence range of IOM vessels, IOM ships are faster, have actual armour, better guns, shields that work against more than just blasters, actual flak capability, etc. Its not a contest, a Dauntless could probably solo a squadron of large Star Destroyers on its own.
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>>65202405
GE gets a Deathstar then, just remember the Deathstar is still able to zip around and just pop into turbolaser range of enemy fleets. The GE would fleetmog the Imperium of man simply because they could do eldar Webway tier bullshit as well, the Imperium cant quickly warp around at a tactical level.
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>>65202405
Star Wars has faster FTL and a much higher population. Good chance they could swarm them.
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>>65202430
I font know about faster, but it is definitely more reliable seeing as it doesn't take a shortcut through Hell.
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>>65200612
>the universe now runs on SW physics
I guess some japanese 5th graders wake up and realize they have the Force and end up saving us.

>the universe continues to run on our physics
The ships weren't in proper orbit because they normally rely on their antigrav, they fall into ocean.
Or they overheat due to lack of sufficient cooling surfaces.
Or they explode like a because hypermatter reactors are just uncontainable exotic particle soup (in which case we're very fucked)
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On a side note I once read a sci fi short story (which I cannot find again). Basically a fleet commander was being on trial for failure.
He failed to occupy a planet. The inhibitants were always at war with each other, very violent, millions dead, too. so it sounded easy but for some reason they stopped killing each other and then they got their hands on some star tech and started reverse engineering stuff and slowly but surely rebelled and it took them a while and lots of casualties but they repelled the fleet.
So he gets demoted and discharged and on his way out meets a fellow commander friend who asks what his plans are and where he is going. Answer is they call their planet esrth and he is going as far as he can because they swore revenge and they are coming…
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>>65203710
Sounds like HFY slop.
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>>65203710
sounds like a classic post-WW2 SF story
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>>65202090
NTA but
>Cityoid trash thinks he has the right to call anything outside a city "subhuman"
Post your gun with timestamp
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>>65204884
Hey pal hope you live in a naturally fertile area.
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>>65204887
I would happily spend the next 100 years in the corner penthouse of a skull pyramid just as long as my sockets were pointed at the field where they ran you faggots over with the chariots.
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>>65200612
Kill yourself, nerd.
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>>65204890
Spiteful mutants like you only exist because of industrial nitrogen.
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>>65204884
>I'm the pinnacle of human development!
>which is why I drive an American shitbox made out of 3 other American shitboxes

"You know you're approaching civilization when you see a BMW. You know you have reached it when you see an Audi."
- me
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>>65202090
>>65205376
Urbanites are not human beings.
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>Day 1000 of the 3-Parsec Special Military Operation to de-Separate the Outer Rim
>Acclamator and Venator classes functionally extinct, Republic Navy is forced to pull increasing numbers of Mandalorian Wars-era Hammerhead and Interdictor-class cruisers from scrapyards on Raxus Prime to make up for losses
>Republic’s flagship, the Centurion-class battlecruiser Ravager, was destroyed after the CIS successfully distracted the crew with a sign reading “Force users here, free food” and launched a proton torpedo into its exposed core
>culture of institutionalized ass rape has permeated every level of the Grand Army of the Republic, buzz droids have been recorded dropping thermal detonators on clone troopers sucking each others’ dicks at least 66 times in the last week
>it’s been a year since General Anakin Skywalker was killed when his shuttle mysteriously exploded shortly after he led the convicted rapists of the 501st Legion in a failed coup against Palpatine, claiming that he was a Sith Lord, getting to the very gates of Coruscant and completely routing Palpatine’s vaunted clone shock troopers before Jabba the Hutt negotiated a truce
>Milblogger, Republican shill, and convicted pedophile Dave Filoni was detained by clone troopers on suspicion of being a Separatist spy and subsequently gang-raped to death
>AT-TEs are regularly destroyed by Hailfire droids despite being equipped with cope force fields
>so many Borg volunteers sent to help retake Naboo oblast have been killed that the Borg Queen has ordered the survivors pulled off the frontlines (having to fight off Wookie blocking detachments who try to rape them) and sent back to the Delta Quadrant
>despite all of this, Chancellor Palpatine is confident that a complete Republic victory is a mere two parsecs away and that everyone should "trust the Grand Plan" due to flow of supplies from the UNSC to the CIS being recently slowed following the election of Lord Hood on an isolationist platform
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>>65200622
https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/40148703/#40153295
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>>65205376
>muh German shitbox

Luxury cars exist to part retards from their money. There is not a worse investment on this planet than a luxury car.
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>>65206212
What are giving the Soviets credit? Casaba howiter and Pascal B are both US ideas.
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>>65206225
TBF, if you have the money there isn't much better to spend it on than a well maintained BMW M2 or a Porche Cayman.
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>>65206282
Or Z3 or E46/E36
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>>65200820
What do you do when a third human galactic empire shows up?
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>>65202017
They have forever to do it in. They have the firepower to demand absolutely anything of the populace. More food. Recruits. Comfort women. Literally anything. Why the fuck do you think they would just loiter and die of starvation with a gun in their hands? Are you retarded?

And no it doesn't take three thousand star destroyers to glass a planet.
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>>65206372
Offer to supply them with especially traumatized child suicide soldiers in exchange for being able to run my affairs with some leeway. I don't even want the immortality tech, because who the fuck would want to live forever in the Xeeleeverse?
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>>65200612
All they'd have to do is simply announce their arrival and wait for Earth to subjugate itself on their behalf.

It turns out that every nuclear power other than India and France is pro-Imperial.
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>>65206487
>Central African Republic
>80% Imperial
Based.
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>>65206282
>ERMAHGERD, IT'S A PERSCH!

Wannabe 1 percenter spotted, the old money will never let you join their club, they have spent the past century making sure they will never have to learn any new names.
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>>65200612
"Oh thank God, please take over. Our leadership is in Israel, start there!"
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>>65206424
>the immortality tech
You've confused the three Child Soldier pilots with you undoctrinal babble. One of them reminds you that a "brief life burns brightly" before shooting you with a starbreaker.
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>>65200612
Completely. There's literally nothing we could do unless they fuck up.
>B-b-but casaba howitzers!
Vaporware nobody has that can legitimately be avoided by turning a few degrees every once in a while will surely win the day. It totally won't be responded to by bombarding the absolute piss out of the firing site when you miss your shot.
>NUKES!
Exist in Star Wars and are often significantly more powerful than ours. Not commonly used because there's plenty of alternatives without fallout.

If they're completely fucking lost and have no way to resupply the fleet's CO is now king of Earth if he wants to be because his fleet is the sword of Damocles and he's holding a pair of scissors. If they're here intentionally then congratulations, you are now citizens of the Empire or else.

>>65202017
It's been in the lore for an eternity, it's just almost never done. You're legitimately more likely to have pissed off Mandalorians show up and drop intentionally extra dirty super nukes on you than catch a BDZ.

>>65202110
You're thinking of the clones or pre-disney Darktroopers. Stormtroopers are better trained than Imperial army troops but it's not like they're all Delta Recon Ranger SEALs. Their equipment is what would set them apart. Even if it wouldn't pen on a plate hit I still would want to get whacked with a .50 or ten. Shrapnel also still works great on exposed bodysuit. With OP's given forces they'd lose through attrition. It wouldn't take long for us to figure out how to kill them regardless of their armor, or even using it against them. Assuming the ships in orbit stayed out of it a ground war is legitimately winnable.

I wager where we'd actually have a clear advantage right out the gate is ground vehicles. Their armor is heavily focused on defeating plasma weapons for reasons that should be obvious. A spicy APFSDS or a nasty EFP might actually pen an AT-AT. TX-130s would be scary though. Biggest potential issue with fighting the Empire would be shields.
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>>65206653
I'm pretty sure Imperial armor is made of of a plastic/Kevlar like material designed to dissipate blaster bolts. if that's the case they might as well be wearing ALICE webbing
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>>65206741
It's a special plasteel that is durable as fuck. A .50BMG not penetrating is legitimately possible. Spall is also unlikely but that doesn't mean all that force just goes away. I'd go for a round designed to transmit energy through the armor like a warhammer rather than focusing on penetration. Just because you can't pen doesn't mean you can't kill the squishy meat bag in the armor anyways.

Phase I and II clone armor is more like what you're describing while still being more durable than most if not all earthly polymers. The method of protection you described for blaster bolts is accurate though. It tries to prevent penetration via dissipation. GCW Stormtrooper armor would typically save you from glancing hits or low power shots. In the EU some time after the fall of Palpatine's Empire it was upgraded further and could eat a typical bolt dead on center mass.

Disney stormtrooper armor can be casually broken with a fucking wooden club because they're purely comic relief bad guys. If it was Disney canon stormtroopers we'd eviscerate them with regular 5.56. If it was pre-Disney then again, we'd need something beefier designed to kill the man in the armor regardless of penetration. That said artillery, grenades, and other explosive shrapnel creating weapons would still slaughter them. A Mk19 would make short work of a horde of stormtroopers regardless unless they were given capable personal shield generators (not happening).
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Erm all of you NERDS are giving me the ICK. Have sex, incel!
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>>65200612
The sad thing about these threads is that there are people who think you can nigger rig a space shuttle together when your entire industrial base is being vaporized from orbit. That any of our existing ICBM's are suited for chasing actively evasive targets, or that you could shoot and scoot with them like they're scuds. Or that the human race would actually unite against an alien threat instead of kill each other for the opportunity to be the alien's slave foreman nation.
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>>65206805
>instead of kill each other for the opportunity to be the alien's slave foreman nation.

Honestly this is the most likely outcome, if they show favoritism for *any* government it's immediately over. At the risk of sounding like an edgelord, what we think of as nations are a lot more fluid than we'd like to believe. It's really just power blocks and people at the top of them. If those people at the top see some dudes roll up who completely upend the power dynamics on the planet the will immediately try to use them, not try to fight them. They're cowards, they'd only try to fight if they have no choice or know there won't be any repercussions. And in this case fighting is suicide so they will sell us all out and every notion of patriotism and national pride will fall amid their laughter. They'll 10000% try to get in league with the if they can or, if they're especially ballsy or principled, they'll try to leverage cooperation of their constituents for a deal.
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>>65206653
You might have a point about the ground war but there's a lot of ifs involved, for starters, there's tons of garbage governments around the world whose only hold onto their peoples loyalty comes from ideas of patriotism and men with guns. Depending on how committed to the empire and/or retarded the CO is gaining popularity among earthlings is a few years of competent leadership away.

And like you mentioned we can't touch anything of theirs that flies. It would take days if not hours for them to render basically any communications grid on the planet inoperable...Or literally render all of them inoperable. And jam everything else.

With only them communicating and seeing the surface they can jump bases, ground formations, infrastructure, defenses, munition dumps, fighters mid flight. But they honestly wouldn't even need to do that. Blast all the oil fields. Make a few power plants go Chernobyl. Sit back, wait. We're toast.
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>>65206803
Make me. I'm wise to your ways you dastardly pimp of foul big tiddy temptresses. You won't do it. You wouldn't dare.

>>65206805
Or rig up some wunderwaffen that was only ever on paper as a concept. Victory requires massive handicaps for us or fuckups on the Imperial side so spectacular they'd deserve what they get. If they were serious about it there's literally nothing any of us could do to stop them. Even if we went as far as to irradiate and sterilize the world with a gorillion salted nukes being detonated with perfect spacing they could still plop down a base and mine our graves.

>>65206837
Pretty much. If the guy leading the fleet is competent, smart, and charismatic at bare minimum I'd expect him to have his own country fairly quickly. If he's here to annex us into the Empire and can call in reinforcements a second fleet showing up would likely seal the deal even for the most optimistic on the "resist" side of things. Making it clear there's no chance with a show of force like that would allow him to get his way without firing a shot.

>anything that flies
We could actually do ok against unshielded regular TIEs but interceptors, anything with shields, and that flight ceiling of a cunthair past Mars they all share would make it a pain. Again though, that assumes the big ships stay out of it and runways are not craters or molten for good measure. The only plane I can think of that could hang with interceptors in a dogfight is the F-22. Though if they're still using Venators the interceptor is probably still only a thing in an R&D room at Sienar.
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>>65206653
Didn't the Empire use nukes against Mandalore?
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>>65207055
I remember part of the problem Mando was the surface was dangerously radioactive so probably. Regular proton bombs and turbolaser fire don't irradiate or otherwise produce radioactive fallout unless the surface is already radioactive to begin with.
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>>65206653
Ah, "delta base zero." It's barely in "the lore" as a dingleberry. It's a blathering bit of flavor text from an early roleplaying game that is less canonical than TIE fighter solar panels popping off. It got hyped up by an excited Warsie with a website and an inability to make rational extrapolations.
That's it. That's all it ever was.
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>>65207077
It's also in more than a few other things including the Incredible Cross Sections books which are infinitely cooler than you. You can even fight on a planet that was hit with an equivalent bombardment at some point in it's history in Empire at War. Sorry it rustles them jimmies so much but it's a thing no matter how hard you declare you don't like it.
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>>65206653
>It's been in the lore for an eternity
So have flat absolute ironclad caps on Star Wars power that make those lore bits completely impossible.

Your dog and pony show isn't impressive here, you've got feats, I've got feats, there is absolutely no way they can coexist, but I'll save you some time, the scenes where Star Wars is sub WW2 in scale outweigh the ones where they have nukes by about 1000 to 1.
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>>65207388
And what would those "caps" be? Insane maximum yields per shot? Power generation similar to a small star in a galaxy that has had FTL travel for longer than we've had domesticated sheep or blonde hair? How is it even remotely outlandish to consider it's on the list of their capabilities? Bitching won't take it out of their toolbox. We're not deciding what happens with anon's very special "they can't because I say so" inflatable decoy ISDs, but lore accurate ships. That means yes they can crank those turbolasers to max and skullfuck the planet and everything on it as they lazily orbit while vomiting fire upon us.

It's honestly not worth bitching about in this context because even if we decided turbolasers had all the effectiveness and fury of an 18th century howitzer shell on impact just to satisfy you retards the proud and venerable ISD "Wet Fart" and it's escorts could still mercilessly fuck us from orbit and we couldn't do a damn thing about it. Our only hope for military victory is that they just sit there in geosynchronous orbit, drop their shields, and outright let us nuke them. Our real only hope is diplomacy and praying our leaders don't piss off the death triangle and its friends.

>the scenes where Star Wars is sub WW2 in scale outweigh the ones where they have nukes by about 1000 to 1
Meanwhile the US has only used nukes twice out of thousands of engagements and still does a whole lot of close range stuff to this day. We could just launch ICBMs at all our problems but maybe there's reasons we don't just press the button every time someone even slightly offends us.
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>>65206282
Or Vette.
>>65206506
Who cares?
The only cars south of a quarter million that have the road feel of Porsches are Lotuses
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>>65200612
1) /tv/
2) star wars fanboys once again prove they are the most cringe
3)
>Och no the absurd and ridiculous bullshit vehicles from star wars show up?
Recalibrate the earth based seti dishes send a impulse le star destroyer shits itself and blows every fuse. Derelict in space falls into atmosphere desintegrates into trash.
This is actually canon le star destroyers get disabled by magic EMP in empire strikes back.

>Bbbb the Tai fighters
Not aero dynamic
Junk that explodes to everything
Literally can only shoot glowing arrows who fly slower then real arrows.

>Bbbbb orbital bombardment
Not canon in the movies.
If you push this your franchise self contradicts

They literally needed to land their ridiculous walkers in empire strikes back and that trash gets destroyed by any altilary

>Muh energy sheelds
Not canon in the movies it is literally only dogshit armor who blows apart all the time.

Is you want to see a real thread see the expanse not glowing arrow shooting space bullshit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_ATYOm3nNc
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>>65208474
>road feel

You car faggots sound just as, if not gayer, than foodies.
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>>65208533
I'm pretty sure a radio dish and an ion cannon are not the same thing.
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>>65208533
My guy we are talking about a tech level that isn't comparable and what you are describing is going to fuck us up more than whatever it would do to what is effectively a Burke against a nation that has no navy.
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>>65202017
ONE single SSD is sufficient to completely annihilate every single major population center on a planet within 24 hours of saturation bombardment. It takes about 6 months to completely glass the planet. SSDs are designed around orbital bombardment and ship of the line engagements, things the Republic navy always struggled with and had to resort to ground invasions and a general inability to defend planets against patrolling frigates.
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Realistically the Star Destroyer would just have to do some volleys of turbolaser fire into unpopulated areas then demand surrender in exchange for some kind of taxation while they leave us largely alone to get us to likely fold. The Empire would value us more as some kind of resource pool of people eager to experience a more advanced kind of life and being human/humanoid focused we'd be likely a recruitment planet for the Imperial Army and Navy after Imperial education has been established. tl;dr our elites would sell us off as grunts to the empire in exchange for stability and technology transfers.
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>>65208639
We might also end up as forced labor if our gas giants are made of the same gas that their blasters use.
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>>65208650
Either way, after the Empire delivers their levels of automation, energy production abilities in the form of reactors basically outproducing entire countries in terms of wattage and especially droids to replace menial labor, Earth will have billions of perfectly assimilatable humans for the empire to use. The Indians and Afrians would likely be the miners while the Europeans, Americans and East Asians become soldiers for the Empire
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>>65208658
You know, I'd be an imperial wagie provided they actually hold up their end of the social contract, unlike our current leaders. You hear me Palpatine? I'll be a cog in the machine so long as I have a cute Twi'lek, Zeltron, or Chiss wife waiting for me after I get off work.
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>>65208666
Likely the Empire would actually be beneficial for Earth, if they got rid of the corrupt leaders engaging in child molestation and other crimes against decency. I never heard about Palpatine going to Epstein Island.
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>>65208688
Old EU lore he kind of had his own Epstein planet. Don't know I'd he sexually assaulted anyone there, but he did all sorts of other heinous shit, because you know, the whole him being an evil space wizard deal.
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>>65208693
Yeah but has Palpatine tortured a single Terran? Not my problem.
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>>65208666
>>65208688
Agreed
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>>65208533
The whole reason the Empire landed on Hoth at all was because the shield the Rebels set up there was "strong enough to deflect any bombardment" lol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aV2DLkDPwM8
You know nothing about the franchise beyond "I DON'T LIKE IT!" and it shows.

The tech difference between "The Expanse" and "Star Wars" is still tens of thousands of years. It's a nifty series but they'd get their shit rocked just as hard by a stray pissy ISD. You're trying to compare a civilization that still hasn't left it's own solar system and has no FTL to one that is galaxy spanning where crossing the whole galaxy in a day or two is normal and mundane. If you don't understand how massive just that gap is and the implications that come with it you really shouldn't be discussing this. The energy usage capabilities alone are so vastly different it's insane. The Expanse is based on our current understanding of how things work, which may be extremely primitive or just flat wrong.

>>65208650
If anything they'd be deeply interested in life on our planet. Supposedly regular ass humans evolved here AGAIN which would make the human supremacist side of Imperial politics a gleeful shitstorm. Not "near humans", straight up 100% humans. Imagine how happy space explorers from /pol/ would be to find regular ass white people independently evolved on a planet nobody's ever been to before. If we accepted entry into the Empire and didn't fight it or even had a few "We're not with those guys" situations we'd probably end up a rich system. Especially if Jupiter or Saturn had similar gas makeups to Bespin including Tibanna or other blaster capable gasses.

Just getting our hands on some crappy clone wars era cargo vessels as part of the deal would bootstrap the fastest expansion and technological advancement in human history. We'd probably also have an Imperial fleet guarding the place because of that scientific importance from our traceable evolution here.
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>>65208613
>The hecking ion canon!
Look I do not memorize cringe star wars names. Star wars light speed is not real light speed etc.
Star wars is so fucked that it is literally science FANTASY not fiction.
>Muh
Look the point is that star destroyers in their own universe are shit and absurd if this magic EMP is canon they should be destroyed and the empire would fall.

You clowns piss and shit yourself over the Holdo maneuver and make 2h rant videos how the holdo maneuver makes capital ships irrelevant however magic EMP in the old movies is ignored.

And it is a magic EMP nothin IRL blows electronics up so hard and if it is technology it can be recreated by the USA
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>>65208852
Dude. We get it. You don't like it. We're not discussing if it's realistic based on our current understanding of physics and technology, but what would happen if one showed up in orbit as it would be in franchise with it's normal capabilities and whether or not there's anything we even could do about it with our real weapons. Fuck off and start a "My sci-fi weapons are more realistic than yours!" wank thread and tickle your piglet there.
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>>65206866
>We could actually do ok against unshielded regular TIEs but interceptors


Disagree. I've played Warthunder enough to know missiles are king but the queen is climb rate.


TIES in canon might have retardedly low speed limits and the aerodynamics of a, well, giant ball, but they can climb pretty much effortlessly at full speed for as long as they need to and eventually reach escape velocity (which is faster than they are supposed to be able to go but w/e). So an F22 might have an advantage in a straight dogfight but a scan of any jet propulsion system would immediately tell any Imp engineer that our planes cannot just go up forever. And when they try they bleed energy at an alarming rate. All a TIE would have to do is fight in the vertical while constantly climbing and even an F22 would get its ass handed to it.

If the Imps are even remotely capable at jamming radars they'd make a good portion of our missiles useless. Definitely render our newest F35's utterly ineffective since that's their main weapon. Which leaves heat seeking which are our oldest and least sophisticated self guided missiles. Not to mention I'd like to see some stats for Durasteel, since the TIE is apparently capable of transitioning to and from atmospheric combat by itself. That means even its unshielded ass can withstand reentry, so I'm not so sure our missiles would do much unmodified.
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>>65208977
That's a solid point but I still believe we'd do pretty solid in the opening air battle, again assuming the big ships don't do shit. Initially they'd probably treat it like fighting X-wings, get spanked by missiles and in dogfights, have that set of realizations you mentioned and flip the table in our direction. It's basically like a guy in an F-16 getting into a turn fight with an A-10 and giving up his own advantages for target fixation.

Don't have numbers for you but durasteel is certainly stronger than regular earthly steels and likely has better heat dissipation too. What likely makes re-entry much less of an issue is actually repulsor tech rather than the materials. They're really not beholden to the whims of gravity and could easily maintain safe speeds on the descent. They use that instead of traditional control surfaces.

If we got annexed and were given even outdated tech to build from I would expect us to have some of the scariest fighters in existence simply because we'd probably still factor in traditional aircraft design, tech, and control surfaces. Taking on Earth made starfighters in atmo would be terrifying. Imagine being an engineer at Skunk Works being given a V-19 Torrent to take apart complete with translated technical manuals.
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>>65200612
We're fine. Appeal to the liberals back on their home planets and they won't be able to do anything to us.
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>>65200612
Would people even be upset? Most people in the Western world hate their governments, and the Empire has technology previously only in our wildest dreams. We would instantly advance centuries in technology. Unless we had a rare resource, we would probably just be a backwater planet, so we would probably just be left alone.
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>>65208533
if we want to talk about realism then how about we square the circle where expanse has railguns but not lasers, when lasers are actually much more achievable and we will be having them deployed in what's probably a few years?
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>>65205400
Heh
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>>65209708
What do you mean? Give it a few years to adjust to the new technology and Earth would create weapons that would make even the Emperor uncomfortable.
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>>65209736
Fair point. Maybe Earth would become an R/D lab planet. We do have a nice barren moon next door to test on.
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>>65209736
I think it'd take more than a few years to adopt to wholly new technology, anon. This isn't XCOM.
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>>65200800
>it would be like trying to knock down that hornet's nest in your shed by fucking it
This is the empire you're talking about, they'd simply state that they will vaporize a town/city for every storm trooper killed.
Same tactics used by the SS in Europe.
It tended to significantly dampen resistance.
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>>65210076
Eventually the Empire wouldn't need to rely on that, they probably could generate a loyal enough force/have Earth soldiers with families moved offworld as insurance that would police things and most people likely wouldn't care. The Empire would likely treat Earth with kid gloves as any real resistance isn't any sign of the Rebellion having an insurgency here but rather would be seen as a primitive culture not understanding who runs the Galaxy. Think of the British in India and how they basically ruled over the whole subcontinent with minimal needs for brutality.
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>>65209825
Benefit of being in the fold is you can have experts come and teach your scientists and engineers how all that fancy new tech works and the principles behind it. You don't have to figure it out entirely on your own.
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>>65206382
>They have forever to do it in. They have the firepower to demand absolutely anything of the populace. More food. Recruits. Comfort women. Literally anything. Why the fuck do you think they would just loiter and die of starvation with a gun in their hands? Are you retarded?
They do not have the firepower, they have three WW2 battleships in space with infinite ammo, whenever they hit Atmo they're being fucked over by anything more advanced than WW1. They have no ability to come down and ship significant amounts of food. They have no ability to remove all forces that could annihilate anything they put on the ground, because a single platoon of men with modern weapons is an existential threat to any of their ground forces.

>And no it doesn't take three thousand star destroyers to glass a planet.
Yeah it would take much much more than three thousand of them
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>>65209740
Gas station food court.
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>>65200612
I wonder how many tie fighters could fit inside a venator.I know it has been said a zillion times but the empire should have kept them.
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>>65212062
Lore accurate they absolutely could BDZ us, it's in the lore. They could.

Even if we use your version where they can't because at best turbolasers are as powerful as WWII battleship guns instead we're still absolutely fucked because they can still hit is from orbit and we can't touch them. They could drop shell equivalent bolts on us all day and we could do nothing but hide and beg to be spared. Even by your own rules it may not be molten but we're still dead if they just do the same exact fire mission.
>no ability for logi
Yep. Absolutely nothing. Totally. fr fr no cap. Totes ma gotes. Just ignore that the Venators themselves can land and have massive flight decks you can stuff with captured food.

Can you just move on dude? Aside from MUH EXPANSE guy nobody else is discussing this by your rules.

>>65212313
An absolute fuckton. More than on an an ISD I or II. They absolutely should've but "Jedi cruiser" killed them.
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>>65202017
>misanthrope is also an idiot
color me surprised
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>>65200612
Better idea, you can pick from these to add to your nations brand new space fleet.

You have 50 points

>ISD + complement: 30 pts
>Lucrehulk + complement: 25 pts
>ISD (bare): 20 pts
>Lucrehulk (bare): 15 pts
>VSD + complement: 10 pts
>Venator + complement: 8 pts
>VSD (bare): 6 pts
>Venator (bare): 4 pts

>3 TIE Defenders: 1 pt
>7 TIE Fighters: 1 pt
>4 TIE Interceptors: 1 pt
>3 TIE Bombers: 1 pt
>5 X-Wings: 1 pt
>4 Y-Wings: 1 pt
>6 ARC fighters: 1 pt
>8 V-Wings: 1 pt
>10 Torrent Fighters: 1 pt
>20 Vulture Droids: 1 pt
>4 Droid Tri Fighters: 1 pt

>1 AT-AT + Carrier: 3 pts
>1 AT-TE + Carrier: 2 pts
>5 AT-STs: 2 pts

>200 stormtroopers (+troop carriers): 2 pts
>1000 B1 battle droids (+troop carriers): 1 pt
>200 B2 battle droids (+troop carriers): 1 pt
>20 Droidekas (+troop carriers): 1 pt
>200 clone troopers (+troop carriers): 2 pts
>1 Jedi (knight): 2 pts
>1 Jedi (padawan): 1 pt
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>>65212402
Give us sep and republic ground vehicles.
Also Lucrehulks just five points below a ISD 1?
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>>65212402
Lucrehulk + compliment (25)
Venator+ compliment (17)
200 B-2s (16)
20 Droidekas (15)
5 X-wings (14)
2 bare Venators (6)
2,000 B-1s (4)
20 Vultures (3)
4 Tri-fighters (2)
6 TIE Defenders (0)

Lucrehulk with 3 battle carriers for escorts is a solid fleet. Between the included men, droids, and equipment with the fully complimented Lucrehulk and Venator we've got plenty of manpower to run the slicks and train up new operators/crew. Also have a hell of a lot of stuff to begin taking apart for reverse engineering purposes, which would go very quickly with all the data and expertise available out of the full compliment Lucrehulk and Venator. I'm confident the US would be churning out new droids and other goodies inside 5 years, 10 at the absolute most. With that much firepower suddenly in our hands there is a solid chance we'd declare war on China and Russia to be done with them forever. They wouldn't be able to do shit about it. Things like asteroid mining would be painfully easy providing an obscene amount of resources almost immediately and a Lucrehulk comes with an obscene number of various droid types to do it with. We'd also be able to begin mapping safe hyperspace routes to nearby systems to exploit and colonize them too. Elon would cream his pants so hard it could kill him at how quickly we'd become not just multi-planetary, but multi-system. Bacta and medical droids would also revolutionize medicine. The technological jump and accompanying implications would be insane.

>>65212481
More vehicle and fighter choices in general including rebel scum and separatist vehicles would be nice. I 100% would've taken some TIE Hunters over 1k of that 2k B-1s. I just assumed "+ compliment' means fully loaded with a full crew and everything else it normally would be carrying including fighters and vehicles. If you get a loaded one and add more troops or vehicles you're basically buying extra.
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>>65212402
>Lucrehulk + complement: 25 pts
Is this even a question? A single Lucrehulk carries a fuckload of air, ground, and space hardware, so much that a fully loaded ISD, VSD, Venator would be a complete waste.
Ground equipment in Star Wars ranges from ok but unexceptional to utter dogshit relative to the available tech. The same is probably true for spacecraft so it's pointless to acquire anything in bulk since Earth engineers can develop far superior equipment through reverse engineering. The following would be good for reverse engineering and evaluation to develop counters against.
>1 empty VSD (6)
>1 empty Venator (4)
>3 TIE Defenders (1)
>5 X-Wings (1)
>4 Tri-Fighters (1)
>1 AT-AT + Gozanti or Y-85 Titan (3)
>5 AT-STs (2)
>B1s, B2s, Droidekas with MTT/PAC and Vulture Droids (0, already included aboard Lucrehulk)
and for cross-training, instruction, and technical assistance:
>200 Clone Troopers + AT-OTs/LAATs (2)
>200 Stormtroopers + Sentinel/Lambda and A5 Juggernaut (2)
>Jedi knight (2)
>Jedi padawan (1)
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>>65212313
They should have built a lot more Lancer-class frigates as well.
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>>65212575
I'd argue the single loaded Venator is still worth it for the free ARC-170s, Y-wings, V-wings, DC-15s, AT-TEs, AT-RTs, Z-74s, TX-130s, Juggernauts, and other such stuff plus skilled troops and engineers who know how it all works. You'd have have tech manuals for most stuff too also helping to make the guys at LockMart happy. A loaded Lucrehulk and Venator with everything else "bare" gives you pretty much everything you need.

Personally I chose extras for things that come with the vessels to ensure I wouldn't have to take as much out of the loaded vessels for reverse engineering or non-combat purposes. Until we get our own production going every individual thing lost to engineering is at best still an unpleasant loss. Not getting any more until we can make them ourselves after all.
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>>65202003
Hell yeah, brother.
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>>65202346
What about 1000 nukes?Just throw all of them, the moment shield overload, one nuke is enough to vaporise half of it.
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>>65214056
Nukes are just thermal bombs in space and these craft are massive and able to withstand a lot of thermal load.
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>>65212575
Lucrehulk has a ton of infantry, but the ground and air vehicles are not very impressive.
The AAT tops out at like 30mph while Imperial hover tanks are zooming around at 200mph. While the Vulture droid has a operation time of like 30minutes.
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>>65212481
Presume empire era ground vehicles are 2-3 pts, clone wars 1-2 pts (squads for tanks/light walkers)

Lucrehulks have a fuckload of equipment and are enormous
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We destroyer them easily. They lost to Ewoks, wait until they see Grizzly Bears.
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>>65214961
>We destroyer them easily.
Evok hands typed this.
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>>65202110
bullshit.
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>>65214099
You're getting at least 1.5k vultures which is enough to just autowin.
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Will smith is aliiiiiiiive
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Star War is gay enjoy your gay franchise you old fuck
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>>65216623
>Uses some bitter old fuck as an appeal
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One single ST Runabout shows up.

How fucked are we?
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>>65216623
He just seems like a bitter old man ngl. No matter how much he talks poetically, he made some poor child that was excited to see his hero, burst into tears
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>>65216642
Assuming it's crewed by loyalist Feds, not at all, as the temporal prime directive would be in effect.
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>>65200637
They typically carry two years of supplies. They're meant to independently control entire system in a RIDICULOUSLY large and spread out fleet.
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>>65200813
>patty hearst
That bitch should have served multiple life sentences.
>her testimony
>they raped me
Just reading everything about the incident makes me wish multiple Waco style raids on every "black liberation" group.
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>>65201312
Outside of the one movie it's just never a major concern. Individual guns match the sun for power outfit, so you can assume it's some fusion bullshit and likely not relying on anything they are worried about needing to refuel often. They carry multiple years of food already.
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>>65216637
>>65216645
somebody who was there said it was a lot more tame and it was something along the lines of "science fiction is good and all but make sure you also read books and mind your studies" presumably the child then exclaimed "Oh boy my studies" and neglected his duty to run down to boobies water pump for a half liter
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>>65202430
It's faster. A single starfighter can cross the galaxy fast enough the luke travels in one alone with whatever supplies he has in the cockpit.
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>>65216637
You are 30
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>>65216924
Yeah, everyone knows that oncwe you hit 18 you have to immediately start hating everything you liked when you were 17 or younger. The only approved manly adult interests are sportsball, beer, and cop drama shows. The bible even says so.
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>>65216924
I love Star Wars but think Andor is overrated, and I hate liberalism/leftism. What now?
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>>65200612
given the subsonic speed(in air) of the lazors you could probably sneak a slow moving missile though their shields without it getting shot down and nuke them.
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>>65200612
>>65200618
>>65202017
They have orbit. They win. The end.
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>>65200612
They will probably eradicate a city of diverse black lesbians and opressed children before the force awakens n'tungu sheboon to infiltrate the destroyer and blow it up with nothing but the power of friendship and chatgpt the marketable droid.
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>>65208611
>What is trigger feel?
You are an insecure, overcompensating queer.
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>>65208695
No Imperial eva called me cracka!
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>>65200800
Hey jackass. throwing a temper tantrum and doing guerilla warfare only works when someone humors you. Otherwise, you get the 2nd Boer War and the American-Spanish war and then American war in the Philippines.

They drown you in blood until the insurgents have no where to hide and the only surviving population is a loyal one that snitches to the new authorities.

The Imperials would do exactly this.
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>>65209736
not really.
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>>65202085
Killing isnt winning. Surviving isnt winning.
Failing to get what you wanted is losing. Simple as.
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>>65217280
Won't work blacks are terrible at warfare. Even the force can't fix that.
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