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>>65219113
https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/german-french-leaders-unable-resolve-fcas-fighter-jet-dispute-sources-say-2026-06-08/
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>We dont need the F35 muh killswi-FUCK YOU FRANCE ID RATHER BECOME THE 51ST STATE THAN COOPERATE
Average EU militarist
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>>65219113
we zont do zat in germany
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>>65219116
The American killswitch is ultimately more palatable than the French killswitch
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Frogs got rekt. How are they even able to buy and build fighters now that they don't have the Germans to finance their trash?
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>>65219126
Unironically, partner up with the Turks.
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Why do the French sabotage all of these project?
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It's time
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>two african shitholes in the making bickering and picking fights while US and Chinese hardware flood the market worldwide
it do be like that
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>>65219145
They get to peddle more frogshit while daydreaming about being some sort of "third way" armsdealer.
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>>65219157
Thank you Saar., but this is too obvious.
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>>65219145
To be fair, it was not French politics but Dassault.
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>>65219120
Tbf, the American kill switch is at least predictable.
>dont attack Israel
Frogs are diplomatically tied to every tin-pot dictator and extraction colony on earth.
>non zu cannort bomb zis Isis camp
>wi buye parsnip from zem! Hon hon
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>>65219113
Germany wanted to shoot for the moon with a literal wunderwaffe, France wanted a Rafale+. The first was impossible, the second not survivable.
France's next jet will just suck, Germany will buy American or just not have a competitive fighter at all (like for basically its entire post-war history, desu).
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>>65219145
>why does the nation that has consistently made everything worse for over 2 millenia make shit worse
I have no idea.
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>>65219113
Kinda interesting seeing this pop up when just this morning I got around to the Europe section of last week's economist and read article related:
>https://archive.ph/uXCHg
>"Why France is uneasy about German rearmament"
Basically, France has long taken it for granted that they're the only serious remaining EU continental military, even though Germany had a much stronger economy. So for all they preened about european independence from America etc, they actually got quite comfortable with the status quo of Germany military being a total fucking joke and the resulting geopolitical relationships.

But there is no doubt about who has the financial firepower, so if Germany truly does get serious and can spend 3x what France can afford to, they certainly have the room to take the lead and do better. Which would hit the French arms industry if they can't adapt. All of which would be very healthy for Europe overall, but in the case of france might also be a bit of a case of the dog that caught the car. They've been pushing the whole sovereignty and strategic capability thing for ages now, but don't seem to have quite internalized that that happening would mean Germany regaining a significantly more central place in Europe's military hierarchy.
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Very based.
According to the project, Dassault was to be the project manager on the FCAS, while a german company was to be the project manager on their tank project.
Of course the krautists couldn't stand it.
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>>65219240
Is this an article from 1933?
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>>65219113

Told ya - now watch Rheimetall, Helsing and Airbus present a german domnestic 6th gen fighter.... :)
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>>65219326
History has a funny tendency to repeat itself, doesn't it?
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>>65219240
Germany doesn't have nuclear weapons, and after shutting down their reactors that'll add several years to the schedule if they ever want some.
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>>65219240
WTF is this crazy malware link
Has archive.ph been hacked or is it just my browser's DoH provider?
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>>65219240
>if Germany truly does get serious and can spend 3x what France can afford to
The keyword there being "serious" because Krauts could spend half of their GDP and still accomplish fuckall. Their sue-happy culture, sea of red tape and the short span in which their budgets are applied and must be accounted for are lethal to long-term procurement, economies of scale, force regeneration and rearmament in general.
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