>>43272851
And then eventually you settle for t4t and end up not really being happy but staying because you feel like you have no other options. There is no winning.

>>43273139
Not OP but t4t is way less obtainable than a decent man

>>43272851
They suck for trannies into women too. unless you're a polyhon and are fine with other polyhons
>out of people who swipe right on you, without exaggeration 80% are poly and already partnered/"nested"
>out of the rest of them, 90% are starfish bottoms from vibe alone
>out of the 2% who swipe on you who actually seem dateable, 80% are really unfortunate looking or morbidly obese

>>43273165
If you are in a city it’s hard to not be propositioned by other trans women.

>>43273224
Do you're left with trying to sift through to find 0.2% of the people who like you and even then you have to look for someone with a personality and life goals that can mesh with you

>>43272851
That's whack and makes sense why so many girls are hesitant to use them. Personally I just want to make connections and if that leads to a relationship and/sex it's a bonus. I just talk to basically everyone in the same respectful and interested manner, no matter gender identity. It's worked well for me, I've had connections that ended up as friendships, situationships, and one actual relationship (although she had a bit of a breakdown and broke up with me for weird reasons in like 6 months 3: ) with cis women, trans women, and cis men. Idk seems like most people have become pornbrained losers which is ass.
I'm sorry you are dealing with that anon, genuinely hope your luck turns around soon <3
>t. cismale bitard in his early 30s

>>43273246
I live pretty close to a major city and I only get chasers hounding me. One transbian messaged me once but it didn't go anywhere. I don't understand why the chasers even want me desu but they seem way less focused on things like appearance.

>>43272851
>swiping
Don't use those ones specificially.
The older style ones with no algorithm where you actually have to search for your matches by age/height/weight/religion/whatever are better, and where the text, not the pic, on the profile is the most important thing.

They're less popular, so there's less guys there overall, but the quality is way way higher on average.

This seems like a combination of skill/looks issue. I was married to a cis woman for 9 years, we broke up, took a year to myself, then matched with another cis woman the first day back on an app. It'll be a year next month. I like men & women but I get along best with women. Just put effort in your appearance, stay/get fit, invest in appealing hobbies, and take a genuine interest in people. Dating today seems hard for everyone and idk why, we've forgotten how to be human.

>>43273417
>just be an attractive normie, just fundamentally change your personality
Baitpost

>>43273462
If your personality is unappealing and making you lonely/unhappy, maintaining it isn't being authentic. It's failing to grow. You can't totally change your looks but you can develop a sense of style and you can focus on being an interesting person. Put effort into being the person you want to be, don't value your comfort so highly.

>>43272851
You sound like my perfect match

too bad I live in a shithole and there are no trannies on dating apps, which is not a big deal I guess since Im fine with cis women too and there's no risk they ask to top me or some gay shit like that

>>43273502
>if you're gay, maintaining that isn't being authentic. It's failing to grow. You can't totally get rid of the homosexual urges but you can pray to the lord and focus on being a good straight. Put effort into the child of God you want to be, don't value your comfort so highly

You might think this is exaggeration, histrionic or satirical but this it is fundamentally exactly what you sound like. Some people are just a certain way and can't change who they are.

>>43273603
If being a loser chud is as fundamental to your existence as being gay then just thug it out. Lmao comparing "care about your appearance, and try new hobbies" to conversion therapy is insane. If that's true, just give up and go truecel stop complaining about something which you view as intrinsically impossible for you. Do you wake up and whine about how you can't fly?

>>43273695
Normie sadism claws come out the moment I point out you're engaging in toxic positivity. You aren't here to help, you're here to inflate your ego.

>>43273730
You couldn't recognize help right in front of you cause you've already given up. It's not sadism, if you really think you aren't capable of change why care? I think you do believe you can change but you don't want to, cause it's difficult and uncertain, but the certainty you feel now is what's making you miserable.

I'm sorry if I seem like I'm here to inflate my ego, I browsed 4chan religiously in my teens & early 20s I'm not trying to act superior, I just want to offer a more optimistic perspective.

>>43272851
nobody uses dating apps anymore it's not 2024 gworl
normies have abandoned the apps

>>43273783
It's just delusional and annoying when you post something like that. You're chiding people for not only not wanting to live life the same way you do but being incapable of it. I did all the shit you said for years and it was a hollow and fake existence, and any interest I got was equally hollow and fake, directed at ideas rather than who I was.

>>43273923
Continue living the way you are then. You seem happy.

>>43273934
Obviously I'm here because I'm unhappy for similar reasons the OP described, that it's difficult to find someone and not be alone. The answer to loneliness is not "just morph into a person that can easily match with a normie instantly", it just sucks.

>>43273958
Can I ask which part of what you tried felt like "morphing?" Was there anything that stood out as "not you?"

Cause I'm not saying just do whatever you think people like. I just mean pushing your boundaries and caring about yourself. If you tried that and it felt fake I'm wondering why?

>>43274002
Maybe a childrens movie would help you understand. I recommend Shrek

>>43274027
Okay so you whine that I'm acting superior and not understanding then degrade me when I ask about your experience.

You also picked a horrible example, Shrek is about a social outcast that finds love by opening himself up to new experiences and stops defining himself purely by how others stereotype him. He embraces an open mindset....exactly what I'm telling you to do. Leave your swamp and be willing to make changes/meet new people. You think I'm telling you to be a stereotypical chad but I'm telling you to stop living by the stereotypical chud label society gives you.

>>43274247
i like to move it move it
she like to move it move it

>>43272851

Imma just keep hooking up with these men, and being fwb, maybe one day one of them will like me enough to make me more than that. Tbf most of them I don’t like enough to want to date either.

>>43273139
t4t is nothing like a straight relationship lmao why would you look for dat might as well date cis women

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>>43274739
because t4t is purest form of love

>>43274804
not falling for it troon bean

>>43272851
"Get better at vetting" is possibly a viable suggestion, though I wouldn't be able to properly communicate how to do that here. The fact no one reads bios is going to be the biggest hurdle honestly. I (choid) started using taimi and personality is a huge deal for me so I make sure to read anyone's bio before I even consider swiping right and it's been.... okay. Better than tinder by a mile, but no clue how it'd work on the other end. A lot of people are adverse to the idea but desu I genuinely think, regardless of gender, if you have any actual standards and are remotely 'eccentric' in any way, which of course includes being trans even if you're otherwise super normie, you're just better off trying to meet people online and aiming for long distance with plans for one of you to move if necessary. Interacting people in group environments is just so much better for vetting, you meet people who'd never bother to use an app or who'd never show up on it for you, a lot less guardrails that break the flow, etc.
People don't like to even entertain the though of long distance into short moving in together but I think if you're serious about finding someone you truly connect with it's objectively the best way to go about it.

>>43272851
>almost no one is interested in an actual relationship they just want a tranny fwb or are horny and think you'll sext with them.
and why tf would any sane person want an actual relationship with a fucking tranny? LOL

>>43272851
Girl dating apps are a bad idea for cis women so they're even worse for trans women..they are just shit, human relationships aren't meant to be decided based on a catalog of people with a few pictures and some platitudes in a bio. Find people who share your hobbies. Spend time doing things together that you enjoy.

>>43277439
because, uh, just because ok.