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>dark pictures
>no maga hat
based hrtgen

>>43819594
sry (idiot femanon who redid links), i've been a little busy and keep forgetting to recreate the thread :<
i'll try to catch it next time && when i make the new thread i'll fix the reply copypasta too, there are supposed to be arrows between the shipping regions but 4chan ate my cutesy ascii last time so i'll just use normal text i think :/

>>43821313
any time I read "sry" I immediately think Sex-determining Region of the Y chromosome

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>https://pastebin.com/7MMaN94p
the exercise page leads to a 403, does anyone have a mirror, or some other guide to achieving a female body?

i want to start injecting estradiol enanthate asap but the only reputable supplier i know of is sold out. where should i buy from in the us?

>>43821888
check diyhrt.market

>>43821914
is symphony labs good? anything i need to know before buying from them?

yay new hrtgen

>>43821695
if you look at the femboy wiki, they have a page on exercises that i've been on w good results

>>43822164
https://www.reddit.com/r/femboy/wiki/index/body/exercise/

>>43822164
tysm <3

>>43822164
hey you
>>43822004
its been said that they take around a week to ship shit out, but as of yesterday they claim itll be faster.

is celestialhrt legit?

>>43822808
they were fine for me

>>43822915
okay ill gamble on them then. but it being unverified freaks me out. do they ship from within eu? my otkph order was seized

>>43819594
>QOTT
its not me. i always bump

>>43822948
>do they ship from within eu?
Yes they do. You will have a higher chance of delivery if it's from EU to EU than Brazil to EU or US to EU.

>>43821313
oh cool.
post ur revisions here and ill use em if i end up making the next thread again.

Symphony Labs' latest blog post: https://symphonylabs.cc/blog/shipping-vial-issues-and-testing

"Hi! We're doing another one of these, and you WILL read it since it's from the cooler admin.

First off, we got all the esters! We are pending external testing before sale, as any homebrew lab should do before selling products. Also spray (soon)! That's cool!

Second off, one of the biggest complaints we have received is that our shipping was slow, so to fix this, we finally have someone else doing the shipping. Up until now, I was handling all production of vials and all the shipping, which is why it took so long to ship stuff out sometimes. Now that that work is delegated to another person, orders should go out within three days and I can focus more on R&D and production!

Third off, we have better lab equipment now!

There have been crimp issues in the past, so we purchased one of these! It's an electronic crimper and it ensure that every crimp on every vial is perfect, so we can make the best vials out there!

We've also had a bunch of other lab upgrades recently, but I won't bore you all to death with CSP-5 information.

There's some cool stuff in the works, and we're doing everything over here to make Symphony Labs as good as possible.

Stay estrogenized(?), Admin 2"

>>43821695
>does anyone have a mirror
See https://archive.ph/Sgmpf

>>43824470
A newer mirror from 2023: https://web.archive.org/web/20230204144555/http://www.tranchan.net/self/tips/res/90.php

>>43824489
(self-reply)
Mirror from May 2023: https://web.archive.org/web/20230531171849/https://www.tranchan.net/self/tips/res/90.php

https://animamundipharma.com/

Has anyone ever bought from them? Apparently they're related to otokonoko and went legal in Brazil .

>>43824241
what about UK shipping??

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my country is a shithole and i cant get bloodtests, would 7mg EEn every 7 days be safe just to make sure?

>>43824241
Hi Tea did all that complaining make you buy a new crimper

Why doesn't symphony inspect their vials before sending them out people are still getting vials with fibers in them

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>>43819594
How to order progesterone (The good sort) to either Denmark or Sweden? I am only finding sellers outside eu, will this work or are there any within eu to minimise customs getting angy?

>>43825297
its a bit on the high side, everyone says start with 4 and that 6 is high. i just moved from eyeballing 13mL for 5.2 mg to 14mL for 5.6 mg since my syringes only have marks every two mL and i dont test either.

7mg is still in the range that its not absurd and also still in the range that it could be too high if your sensitive or not even enough for some 1-5% of the unknown population and we cant know without tests. look for side effects like persistent fog fatigue and headaches for too high and mood swings at the end of the week for too low plus of course the normal intended things

https://startwith4mgestradiolenanthateweeklyandtestatonetothreemonths.com/

idk why ppl care. the fibers are sterile its not like they are bacterial chains

>>43827416
Its just. Weird yknow.
We're trusting them with our health, these things can be scary

>>43827433
yeah i just think people go looking for trouble or want to be upset. having a stray fiber in one in a thousand orders is really not a big fucking deal. its not like the vials are showing up fucking shattered cracked discolored or smelling like bleach vinegar or solvent. you guys havent seen bad vendors and are fuckin lucky. its always like a stray piece of laundry lint because they arent in a silicon production clean room and a bunch of people(who are not even customers and likely competitors) crying about how theyre are secretly pubes in the injection juice because brewers cant stop masturbating while they cook in the dirty bathtub.

give me your fiber and i will inject it and then my immune system will surround and dissolve it like a weak ass splinter cause im not a baby.

How fast after starting injections did you libido go away and how long did it take to come back? Everyone says it takes years but I'm feeling a certain way and it has me concerned im getting hondosed.

>>43827961
No effects are guaranteed. My libido didn't go away but everything is progressing as it should

>>43827404
is the 14mg every 2 weeks in the guide not worth doing than? starting on EEn in a couple days but if its possible id prefer to do every 2 weeks

>>43828047
The half-life of een doesn't really allow you to do that efficiently. You can, but it's not really super recommended

>>43827511
t. symphonylabs mad that people don't want to inject laundry lint because they don't inspect vials before selling them

>>43827961
I didn't do monotherapy because I took anti-androgens from the beginning with injections and my libido went away from the start. Maybe that would be best if you wanted it to go away asap.

I just saw the most horrible malformed HRTitties/body ever and I have to ask how do I guarantee that doesnt happen to me

>>43828365
prog

>>43828392
I have seen disagreement about whether or not to begin with prog or wait a few months to a year

>>43828365
tubular breasts? they are genetic and you won't know until you're several years into HRT because breast development comes and goes

>>43828414
you wait 8-ish months. but prog is what fixes hrtitties and makes them more like cistitties

>>43825334
I love you Tea <3

>>43822808
I got my order the next day which was wild, but im in the same country as them. too soon to get a blood test yet but so far im alive

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Probably not the place to ask this but I'm too drunk to care thbhon. What's the most effective and safest way to castrate myself without ending up in the hospital, do everclear or calcium chloride injections actually work?

Just got my first blood test results after being on hrt for 2 months and 17 days
My Estradiol levels are 75.66 pg/mL and my total t is 0.48 ng/ml are these good numbers or am i hondosing myself?
I take 4mg of estradiol Valerate a day

>>43829213
e is kind of low, it should be around 250 pg/ml at trough, t seems fine if it is /ml and not /dl

>>43829254
I asked somebody and they said i should wait a few months and see what happens to my e levels before i up my dose since i only recently started
what to do

>>43822799
hi

>>43824515
yeah, and went fine.

>>43827511
idt it dissolves right? it becomes a sterile abscess, as lymphocytes surround it to quarantine?

>>43829213
you need at least 100 pg/ml at trough for good bone health: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1458336/

feminization mostly relies on having excess e + suppressed t

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>>43819594
finally went to get my blood tests after 2 yrs of just going on blindly lol. and my e levels are at 600 . i do 15mg injections every 10 days . to what dosage do you think i should switch to lower e? 600 is way too much rigjt? how low should i go??

>>43829818
Ideally you're supposed to be at like 250-ish like nona said a few posts above you.
600 is probably not dangerous i think Lena is around that level, but get it down because youre genuinely wasting your meds.
Are you on een? Usually with een we do 4-6mg once a week

>>43829841
yeah i am on een ill try that thank you !!

>>43829602
The study you linked claimed 60pg/mL is enough to prevent bone mineral loss

Also correct, plastic fibers are not dissolving inside the body, though it's not going to harm you unless you have AIDS

I just started HRT (e patches) and it's nuked my libido and orgasms. I was never the horniest but I'm almost asexual now. I still jerk off to keep my dick working, so I can still be aroused but it's more of a deliberate thing.

The actual issue is that my orgasms are a fraction of what they were pre-e. Is that just how it is? Sometimes I try to touch myself more like a woman and try to get more meditative with and that helps, but it's still way weaker (and feels agp, but whatever). Like I can feel the ejaculation without the chemical brain reactions. Is it better with sex? It seems silly but it might lowkey be a deal breaker for me.

>>43830324
It can cause changes like that yeah. You should try vibrators to see if thats your thing, and having a parter helps to make it feel alot nicer

>>43830379
Do the orgasms feel different with a partner? I guess that doesn't matter for me in the short term since I literally look like a man right now.

I'll look into a vibrator I think.

>>43830430
yes, being touched physically feels very different for me since i started estrogen and it makes the orgasms better.

Anyone else having issues with Symphony Labs support? I was missing a vial in my order and they haven't responded to my email in over a week...

>>43830950
I've been waiting almost a week for them to get back to me over a contaminated vial i think they're just really behind on things

does anyone have experience with astrovials / symphony labs / estrapen?

i used to do lena for years, tried otokonoko (ew) for a year but looking to change

rubbing estrogen pills on my girl balls rn

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>>43829158
what the actual fuck

>>43833493
I'm a repper with no other options okay.

>>43833493
diy

>>43830324
it feels like a ruined orgasm every time i do it, but being less horny makes it feel worth it.

Was on HRT for over 5 years, detransed for the last six months or so, going to retrans soon. Do I just go straight back on my old dose (monotherapy EV injection, 8mg/week), or do I start over with sublinguals and whatnot?

>>43833974
no reason to do anything else other than restarting at the normal dose, "ramping up" is a scam designed to torture trans people

is 2mg estradiol pills bascially not going to do anything to me? was thinking about a test run at first at low dosages but I do want to feel something should I start at 4mg?

>>43834254
Low doses should only be used to check for allergies. Unless T is sufficiently blocked your body will just make more T

>>43828419
>tfw tuberous breasts but it's okay because the government is gonna give me a free boob job

I've been taking pio for three months and it hasn't really done much. not nothing but it feels a bit overhyped

Hey, does anyone know when the fuck will ANY diy seller be in stock?

>>43834354
Yeah you fell for a psyop

>>43834354
whats pio

>>43834580
PIO = Pioglitazone
(not Progesterone in Oil which also stands for PIO)

>>43834747
ah okay, was kinda worried that yall were talking about prog

>>43833551
nah that's fair actually. I couldn't do it tho

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>>43834747
wrong. D I O

i have orchiectomy on friday and i have a bunch of pio i got in the mail. should i start taking it now or wait until 1 week after surgery?

>>43835024
probably don't start a new medication your anaesthesiologist doesn't know about the week before surgery no

>>43835044
i mean whats the worst that could happen

>>43835099
you never wake up

where is the 'detailed' hrtgen guide might I ask

ANYONE???? >>43824549

>>43832087
My experiences with Astrovials have been awesome.

now why shouldn't i take 10 mg weekly of uhhh id some estradiol ether, more dose = more fem am i right?

>>43835802
you are not correct unfortunately
shbg and receptor fatigue balance against this

>>43835802
You can't get more feminization than sufficient feminization, you'll be wasting your meds.

>>43835474
they use close to 50% benzyl benzoate which is retarded and will cause irritation if you do subq, their non injectable products are probably fine though

What's the best place to get corticosteroids? I want to use estrogen gel, prog cream and stuff on tits
It's 7 years with little growth and it's likely impossible atp but still

>>43829158
You'd need a lot of sterilization, very pure alcohol, probably numbing cream
Without ending up at the hospital?
0% essentially, even if you fully kill them you'd risk necrosis and then sepsis as a result
The point of a diy orchi isn't to never go to a hospital, it's to make it an emergency procedure where they can't be saved
that said, it's fucking stupid and only the most extreme cases ever warrant shit like that

>>43835815
>receptor fatigue
if only there was a way to sensitize receptors or increase synthesis/translocation
>>43835857
fuck my tranny life

>>43835471
the detailed guide is the 2nd image

>>43819594
hello all

Im 9months hrt with the following

0.4ml estradiol IM every 5 days
200mg spiro 100mgx2 everyday

My hormone levels are pretty solid. I've heard of monotherapy with just estr and was curious what prereqs are needed

i found otc pills 2mg estradiol valerate and 1mg cyproterone acetate, is this any good? and is there any downside on taking it while i save for a better hrt?

>>43836200
There's not really a downside i know of..i guess
but 1mg cypro is like nothing
if you can find something and need to prioritize before getting better hrt, focus on a better anti androgen desu
stop and soften masculinization

>>43836166
There are no specific prereqs. What ester are you on? I'm assuming valerate with the injection frequency. You can do mono with any ester but dosage will vary due to half-lifes.
If I were you id definitely look into mono especially since you're on the helldrug spiro, get off of that garbage asap please please it's really really bad for you, doctors are evil and really need to stop prescribing it for transitioning.

With valerate 4mg every 5 days is the minimum mono dosage.
Another option is enanthate which is minimum 4mg once a week.

Also you're 9 months in, if you'd like to you could start progesterone for further breast development. But that's up to you of course, there's nothing negative with not doing prog if you don't want larger breasts (it will also make you feel like a dog in heat).

>>43836274
I;ve been on valerate for the past five months! I've been thinking of just upping the dose myself and going for .5ml/5days instead. i was originally on /week but I gotta hella migraines and the mood swings were just so awful.

I was planning on doing more research on prog when I have more time this week. kinda wanted to wait a bit for my tits to be a bit more even but thats kinda dumb since even afab have hella uneven breasts.

What is bad about spiro?

I'm on 7mg/w of EEn subQ for like 2.5y, is it worth it to do like gel to help with breast growth at all? I have a shitload of gel prescribed by my endo but I just do diy injections

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>>43819594
is there any downside to levels like these for feminising? this was 6 days after my dose, 7mg EEN IM weekly, but doesn't seem right. To be honest I dont really give a fuck about the blood clot shit. im still putting on weight and DIY my own meds, but doctors have advised me to come down to basically 1/4 of the dose im on right now as an "advisory".

>>43833701
weird. it alternates for me. and this ruined aspect is more likely with penetration, especially combined with classic motions, which is strange but kinda makes sense i guess since those things(prostate) get less sensitive? ive taken the advice(vibe) but i think im doing it wrong or being impatient like it feels mostly the same. but it does work. im still working on separating the two since i did the opposite so long i couldnt get off any other way and am finally making some progress its just feels like grasping blindly in the dark. if it never worked i agree it would be a deal breaker tho.

like if we are being honest i was promised earth shattering female orgasms and so far they are not living up to the hype or beating leg shaking prostate ones(i hate being explicit), maybe maybe approaching equal on a good day with prep patience and concentration.

idk i wanted to ask about refractory period and if it relates but i wasnt sure where to ask. by "mostly the same" thats sorta what i mean, like theres a build up, release, then softening and then im done. and that seems wrong? male? idk barely any physical result tho but i was also expecting more uh pre-results instead its very dry now which correctly coincides with decreased prostate? but not my preference

>>43827961
also me. im wondering if its normal for horny to come back at 6 months instead of 1-2 years. i think its because im so physically active and that it should be normal people say working out makes you really sexual

>>43835891
I heard they fixed it

>>43836014
Thanks for actually responding. My plan is just to buy 3ml needles and use regular 190 proof everclear from the liquior store because I'm a poorfag. Ideally I'd prefer to avoid or delay going to the hospital for as long as possible. If it can't be helped then is there any possible excuse or justification I could come up with so that they don't think it's self inflicted?

>>43836892
I'm not sure, I know people here that did a diy orchi, but I never asked too much into it. I assume the hospital could tell, not many conditions turn the teste hard and shrunken i imagine
i really really don't recommend it

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>>43836046
oh I have that already

>>43837194
old version by the looks of it, anyone got a newer one?

>>43819594
did you guys know that finasteride might make you whiter? it reminds me of that standup sketch about how there's no cure for vitiligo
>"oh sure yeah we got a vaccine for blowjobs coming out soon"
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5859039/

>>43819594
Background:
-9 months on HRT/6months on injections/recently switched to /5days injections after research in eV half life (and getting rid of migraines which switching helped)
Recent levels:
Estradiol: 207pg/mL (5 days post injection trough)
Testosterone: 18ng/dL

Currently on:
0.4-0.5ml Estradiol Valerate/5 days (~8-10mg)
&
200mg Spiro (2x100mg AM/PM)

Looking for advice on next steps:
-I would like to switch to monotherapy simply to have one less drug in my body since im on other shit and getting rid of spiro seems ideal.
-I am looking into starting prog in the next few months or so as well
-any advice on levels and monotherapy is appreciated

>>43837389
yes am retard. looks good/great to me even. maybe up dose 10-20% and stop spiro. or switch to een/7.

why ask a nona? ask your endo?

>>43837465
ive been doing shit through plannedparenthood since my pcp is a cunt

>>43837499
yeah your levels look great id be scared to rock the boat

>>43837389
you don't need the spiro and start the prog.

>>43837516
yeah thats my worry too. gonna go through the referal list that plannedp gave me and try to find a new pcp or endo

>>43837704
thanks nona ill bring up prog at my next checkup

>>43837210
>old version by the looks of it, anyone got a newer one?
newer version is linked in the OP
the first two pics are 2.51

link to lenas store?
does she ship to the UK?

>>43838260
>link to lenas store?
https://lena.kiev.ua/EV/
it seems to be down for me at the moment - probably server issue or my DNS/VPN cache is messy.

> does she ship to the UK?
yeah she ships to the UK

Is it true my 10 ml vial will go bad before I finish it? I'm doing 0.1 ml a week so theoretically a little under 2 years
I'm sad

>>43839283
It won't go bad, aslong as the liquid looks normal and not cloudy you're good to inject

>>43836572
You don't need that much estradiol. Halve your dose, please. Even 1/3 is enough. Clotting is rough and you might fry your estrogen receptors and it might a long time before they reactivate.

>>43836508
I hope you don't mean smearing estradiol gel on your breasts. That's a fast track to breast cancer.

I don't see how that would at all help breast development.

>>43839305
Inst it difficult to say it like that? Id need a homebrewer to answer this. I assume carrier oil and other variables would matter.

>>43839374
I'm not a brewer but if it goes bad you will see it, rule of thumb.

>>43837184
>i really really don't recommend it
Believe me if I could avoid doing it I would, but I'm not sure I have any other choice. Ordering diy hrt isn't really a good option at the moment, and I absolutely despise having testosterone flowing through my veins.

>>43839345
thanks for the feedback, ill do this, love ya

>>43836740
I originally asked the question. I guess "ruin" feels like a good descriptor. Best orgasms are maybe 1/3rd of intensity.

I was never really into butt stuff pre e and never had the prostate hit really. Maybe I'll try that.

I was never promised any sexual gains, everything says that loss of sexual appetite is common. But I've had sex with trans women and they can be really horny so idk.

>>43839374
i mean not that much. there is not a lot of variation between how different brewers operate.

>>43839537
diying hrt is leagues easier than diying an orchi

need some advice
Is it normal that when i have high e levels i like in perma full dissociation state and then it lowers before next injection i stop dissotiating and cry and want to kms every time
what to do with it? maybe i need to lower my dose...

>>43839873
>maybe 1/3rd of intensity
yeah its almost like it uses up all the sensation before hand so when it happens nothing happens?? but again its not every time for me. it used to be like that if i went too far edging like a bunch of times in a row then the end would be basically no feeling. but only if too far, like if you didnt go to far it would be the opposite, building up. that was pre tho

>Maybe I'll try that.
ok well e makes it not work. like it makes it smaller so nothing happens and it doesnt feel as good.

>sexual gains, loss of sexual appetite
i meant gains in intensity of feeling, not appetite. the specific common descriptors are "full body" and "multiple"

>>43840341
yeah 1/3 sounds right to me, it's like cumming huge loads is a necessary factor to orgasm properly. i've tried other forms of stimulation but it doesn't change the payoff, but i guess it actually feels the same or maybe even slightly better in the build up. i think it's tied to E dose too cos i was mainly on AA and forgetting to take my low dose e for a while and it was mostly fine then. i remember hearing about full body female-like sensations too and i feel ripped off. being ascetic for the aesthetic is fine i guess but i do miss it and idk how i'm supposed to be a good partner like this if it ever comes to it.

>>43838090
I'm retarded it was the second post itt -_-

What if i'm really determined and my vial popped open because of improper storage and instead of playing it safe I decided to heat the syringe for 5 min instead of accepting defeat?
Am I still just asking for infection? Cause I feel like my immune system is tougher than that but also its really not that hard to talk me out of it. I just don't feel like waiting mystery time until whichever supplier can send the next one.

>>43841805
>if i'm really determined
determined to take a dose from a compromised vial?
>my vial popped open
describe
>improper storage
elaborate
>heat the syringe
the syringe is plastic, the needle is attached to plastic. heat with what?
>for 5 min
ok but time tells us nothing without temperature. are you heating the solution in the syringe? do you have a glass syringe?
>Am I still just asking for infection?
yeah youre doing it wrong
>I feel like my immune system is tougher
thats not how it works when you go around your bodies defenses and directly inject it

if you are "really determined" to take it you could just re-sterilize the vial and use it while you wait for the new one you ordered to show up while observing it closely for contamination and caring not to let it happen again. you probably shouldnt but in the name of harm reduction for people who are gonna anyway

https://archive.ph/EKvkb#selection-1532.0-1532.1

>>43841990
>compromised
yeah pretty much
The crimp must have been held firm by the rubber, I came home and found the vial completely open to the air, the crimp cap and the stopper just popped off. I'm guessing it's because my apartment has gotten very hot lately, my A/C is broken.
>without temperature
The syringes I have are plastic, the steamer I used to see if it'd melt the syringe got the solution to 200° without noticeable damage to the syringe, though I didn't test for more than three minutes.
>go around your bodies defenses
Immune systems only work on the skin?
>re-sterilize the vial
Is the assumption that without glass the appropriate temps and air seal can't be achieved? That seal is broken every time I push air in to prevent a vacuum. Maybe I did that too much, now that I think about it, and that's why the seal came off.

>>43842216
Started messing with the vial to see what else might have gone wrong, the stopper for the vial was too big. The crimper wasn't able to form a complete angle around the lip and the only thing holding it in was the friction between the dry glass and the stopper. Couldn't re-insert the stopper even if I had the right tools, it's far larger than the crimp cap and the neck of the vial.

>>43842216
>Is the assumption that without glass the appropriate temps and air seal can't be achieved?
pretty much yeah.

the tutorial says you want 120 C or 250 F at 15 PSI for an hour. that should be enough for industrial medical sterilization. the key point is to ensure all parts of the estrogen solution to reach that temp for 15 minutes. idk what you are doing with syringes, like if you are drawing up solution boiling them before injection? seems desperate and finicky, more prone to error, you have to repeat it each time, and wait for it to cool before using each time. probly not good for the integrity of the plastics could compromise it too but idk what they are made of, visible damage maybe no, but chemical leaching at heat? you could look up the manufacturer and the build composition, probly polypropylene or just, not heat plastic? this is getting close to reusing syringe territory which you should not. it says pp operating temp is 200 degrees but it could begin to warp so i guess let it rip?

>>43842330
ah yeah your probly kinda fucked unless you wanna basically rebrew it yourself. cause the oil is on the stopper now so you gotta clean the stopper or it will be slippery. but also oil is on the inside of the rim, so you would have to get the solution out and into a proper container and then clean the vial and put it back, which basically means you need to re-filter it to make it injection ready and then sterilize the whole thing after re-crimped lol. i havent actual experience with an open one so idk how thick the crimp foil is supposed to be or how big stoppers are but thatshould be the mechanics of it

>>43842378
>if you are drawing up solution boiling them before injection
I' haven't done anything yet, I was mostly just bullshitting with how to solve this asap so that I could hold over until getting a different vial from whichever supplier won't completely fail to deliver.
Just paid rent so that might be a little bit, sucks to think. Guess the best option is probably to just do my best to safely store the ruined vial and buy the rest of what I need to re-pack and sterilize the next vial I transfer it to.
might as well just start home brewing atp fmstl

>>43841805
>>43842216

tell us who you bought it from so we know who to avoid

steroid forum from google says you can buy sealed sterile vials and a wheel filter and just draw it all up with syringes since they are sterile too and then pop on the filter and inject it through it and into the new vial. probly still wanna pressure can it anyway just in case. you could probly buy a big syringe with the filter and a vial from the same place and do it in one go.

>>43842443
idk theres stuff about filtering in that archive link too. i was being vague because you gave immature impression at first but it sounds like you can handle it i just dont wanna post a step by step walkthrough cause i dont want to be responsible for your or others consequences and im too lazy to effort it safely atm

>>43842447
yeah i was gonna say maybe show us pictures? i wonder if they really use wrong size stoppers or you need like a machine to put them back? and if the crimp was really not all the way on from beginning or if it like popped off evenly from the pressure of injecting air and if that can even happen? interestings questions nonas would like to know for future education purposes

ive been injecting extra air because i was getting weird bubbles forming from the bottle while drawing. i thought it was because negative pressure was sucking air in through the stopper from the backside. now im pretty sure sure im just drawing too fast for 29g needles and i need to slow down and also stop injecting extra air, maybe try to find a way to equalize, maybe break an extra syringe.

how long does it take you to draw and inject? what ester, carrier oil and gauge?

for me id say its about 10 seconds for each and thats me being patient i kinda wanna just slam it in but ive been told i shouldnt

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>>43842447
God I was on a spree when I bought these, it was like two years ago atp and I just got lazy with my storage. I really should just start brewing already. That's OTKph if you can't tell
Has everything changed and none of the same vendors exist? I've tried to keep on track with the more basic resources to hand out to people who need help, but most who need that much tend to need more so I just gave in and stopped keeping up. Have those messy bitches in the straight made it much harder to ship to the states?

>>43842488
>i was being vague
Same, I pretty much knew fs that if I didn't have some puddle of leftover e in a previous vial I was fucked, but I thought it wouldn't hurt to bump hrtg and ramble about dumb theories on how else to sterilize a one time injection. It mostly seemed like it might take a month to even see a tracking number on a new vial so might as well ask the stupid question since it's basically over for the next ~3 weeks minimum

>>43842588
>otokph vial has quality issues
good thing no one needs to be reminded to avoid them like the plague

Has anyone used a needle brand called Careach before? I'm trying to find out if these are exceptionally painful needles or if I'm just not cut out for something this painful. I have to swap needles multiple times per injection until I get one that will just like slip into my leg. The rest are some of the most painful things I've ever felt. The very few instances I can find online of people talking about these needles make them seem like they are as good as any other...

>>43842749
Not unlikely to be a needle for labwork, not for medical use. It may be a lower quality, less sharp, more burred needle.

>>43837389
levels look great. you can cut the spiro and retest in a few weeks to see what your t is at, your e2 should be high enough to suppress already but may need to bump a little if t shoots up too much.
are you sure youre doing 8mg ev every 5 days? everyone responds to hrt differently but this is almost double the normal dose. i used to do 4mg ev every 5 days and i had similar levels to you. double check that your vial is actually 20mg/ml and not 10mg/ml

>I am looking into starting prog in the next few months or so as well
around now or the one year mark is the typical time to start prog. some people prefer to look at breast development stage instead, tanner 3 is a common starting point. obligatory reminder that we dont have strong clinical evidence about efficacy, may or may not work, nobody knows the ideal dosing, etc etc. typical dosage is 100-200mg daily either as a single dose or split into am/pm dose. some do 2wk/2wk on/off cycles. good starting point would be single daily 100mg with no cycling, then adjust as needed. also remember to take it rectally, oral prog is essentially worthless

>>43839374
am brewer. 2 years is fine. we like to recommend shorter just to be safe, for the exact same reason that pharmaceutical companies give 30 day buds on their vials. if 5ml vials are an option you can do that instead, but ik a lot of the big brewers are doing 10ml only rn for some raeson

>>43840284
how high is high

>>43841805
this is an exceedingly bad idea. skimmed your other posts. if that 200 degrees was in fahrenheit, you are not reaching adequate temperatures to sterilize. if it was in celsius, this is way too high and may compromise the solution. also either way this is questionably effective at best. youre essentially trying to do terminal sterilization, but for various reasons it doesnt really work this way (one of the primary reasons being that your vial isnt an aqueous solution, let alone the fact that your syringe is fucking plastic). just get a new vial. ill cover the cost if you need
repacking is a slightly better idea but hard to do properly. at a minimum youd want a sab. like you said, atp youd have enough equipment to just start brewing yourself. which i would recommend, if youre in a position to do so. we need more brewers anyway

>>43842550
if youre drawing too quickly youre going to form cavitation bubbles, which it sounds like is what youre doing. you can pretty easily get rid of these by just pushing it back into the vial. are you not doing that?
ideally you are taking around 30 seconds to inject (or more), but if youre not getting any pain or bruising youre probably fine

>>43842749
these are lab needles lol

>>43843019
>want a sab
This is the sort of thing that's slowing that down. Though, atp even with how stable hrt raws are I might think twice about whether my storage for what I have is good enough, it was a dumb spree I was on so I might have to replace everything and start from scratch.
Don't have the money lately, and the living situation is safe enough but not reliable for things like that, I wouldn't trust my room mates to keep things sterile even if they left for the whole process. They're like if animals had their damn brains removed.

>ill cover the cost if you need
This is awfully sweet, and genuinely tempting with how impatient and nervous I feel. plenty of talk about seizures and mailing problems, feels like the longer it takes to get a vial otw the less likely it will be. I'm fairly confident that it will just mean that resources will move back into more private spaces, but still.
Nobody answered me before, whats the new stuff with vendors? Who is worth checking out, are there any new guard rails or concerns? I've flirted with the idea of DO's vials just to see what they test like, but of the vendors I've used they're the ones most likely to fail to deliver.

>>43843189
>genuinely tempting with how impatient and nervous I feel
if you have a signal, feel free to add me dea050dc.31

>whats the new stuff with vendors
not going into detail on the board, but its mostly the same as its been. not sure how long its been since you were last in the game

>>43843287
>detail on the board
Makes sense, part of the reason I wasn't keeping up on HRTg threads
I'd have kept them up myself, but it seemed like that retraction back to more private channels already happened while I was away

>>43819594
I just draw up 7mg of EV every 6 days and stick it in my leg, girl, idk
Considering taking it down to 6mg tho ngl ever since i lost coverage i havent seen a dr

Is it normal for cumming from jacking off to be more difficult after starting HRT? I can get a boner with some ease if I actively seek out arousing stuff but once I start jacking off it feels like there's a mismatch between the bigger penis I already have and the smaller one I should have and then I'm taken out and I can't jack off anymore.

>>43843447
happened to me
no clue if it's normal desu

>>43843043
>>43842803
I kept reading positive reviews by people using them for hrt. I can't afford to buy anything else.

>>43844514
A pack of 100 insulin syringes is like 20 dollars, do those not work for u? I feel like you have to be doing something wrong if you're going thru multiple needles at a time.

>>43844609
I need to keep swapping them until I can find one sharp enough to even pierce the skin.

Lol I still cant get one in. I had to swap needles so many times that I lost the whole shot

>>43844961
Are you a rhino? Inject body part with some fat. I have skinny thights so i inject in my ass cheek and I never had issue with insulin needles.

oops my cousin had a baby and she picked the same name I always wanted

What the fuck is wrong with planned parenthood. This feels like some kind of fetish stuff where the doctors are getting off on torture.
>Call over a week in advance
>Their hours randomly change and they close for days at a time so have to try repeatedly
>They tell me I should have called earlier, but also that they hired a new doctor who is consuming time, so they can't do a required 15 minute blood work call for over a month
>Tell me they're not sure if they can make me an emergency dosage in the meantime, because my levels might be "dangerously high"
>My E was at 80 (EIGHTY) on two patches, and the dangerous new dose is just adding a third
>Any time I ask whether they really think this is more risky than forcing me to detransition for a month they deflect and babble about nothing
Can they not do basic math? They dont have any liability for this so why TF are they doing this Saw trap stuff? I want to go on DIY but I'm already a few days overdue and feel awful ;-;

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>>43845207
diy asap. cissoids will leave you to die if it's convenient for them.

>>43845090
I've been doing it IM. I ordered some shorter needles to start subQ since everyone is telling me it's easier and less painful, but I'm pretty sure these needles i already have are just really bad. My first box from them didn't have so many dull painful ones.

>>43845207
diy diy diy doctors are evil

is ANY place shipping from europe or the UK to the UK in stock

>>43844897
Ok i think you might have gotten scammed, all needles should pierce skin by default, thats what theyre for.
The ones i use are from microfine theyre perfect.

how do i buy crypto without giving my eye colour, piss, mothers maiden name etc while living in the kikeslave cuck uk

>>43847436
peach bitcoin

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has anyone managed to get e raws from ppl shipped to germany? i am worried about seizures from customs

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