>>25200910
Still on Stripping Of The Altars, god that book is so fucking long. Makes me want wave a Union jack in Eamon Duffy's face at this point. They need to make an abridged version honestly.

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>Diaz points out that among the company is an astrologer named Bortello who often casts lots to determine the outcome of things
>Bortello is eventually killed in the streets of Tenochtitlan during a battle with the natives
>>>Diaz retells how when they dug through Bortello's belongings they found a bunch of lot lines trying to determine whether Bortello or his horse would either survive or be killing in the coming battle
>Diaz goes on to say that they also found among his belongings "what appeared to be a very accurate phallus made of leather that was stuffed with flock

Guy basically said "ewww, he read signs AND he had a fucking DILDO on him!! Fucking DEGENERATE STAR-READER, LMAO"

>>25200910
I am however developing a keen interest in cultural history, however. Hoping someone can shoot some recs my way to fill up my e reader.

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>>25200923
Don't forget the bit where they shot a cannon and made a male horse get a boner just convince the dumbass natives that both the cannon and horse were sentient creatures and were mad at them for disobeying Cortes and fighting with the Spaniards

>>25200929
>cultural history
Such as?

Any really good history stuff about mysterious archeological places? Something with a genuinely spooky vibe to it?

>>25200934
Stuff in the vein of Burckhardt, Huizinga, Darnton but lesser known gems or modern scholarship. I would prefer that it also not contain a whole lot of racial/sexual grievances in it too because I find that sort of thing offputting.

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>>25200947
Not so spooky but this book is excellent.

>>25200959
Is this schizo tier?

>>25200910
There was a thread a while ago where an anon mentioned a book on the congo war (2nd maybe?) and I didn't write down the name. Does anyone remember?

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Total Christcuck Death.

>>25201201
Dancing in the Glory of Monsters

>>25201228
You are a sad little man

>>25201228
Whiny fucking buttbaby

>>25201313
Thank you

>>25201403
I gotchu senpai

>>25200923
>The first Epstein move.

Spics needs to adore a dead Arab man called Jesus, anything else needs to be shunned.

Also Diaz destroyed europe...

Shitalians are so brown that they don't even give a fuck, they founded Diaz to destroy Italy...

>>25201412
????

>>25201412
fucking schizo. meds

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>>25201412
Why are ESLs almost always exclusively looney tunes?

>>25201451
Also a case scenario:

Would you rather die and be found hanging dressed a twisted sister cross dresser saying you were jerking off s self-asphyxiation with a giant black cock in your asshole or be reborn a christian?

Imagine if you were reborn a christian, it's better to be a defamed dead person than to be a spic adoring an arab, nothing could be more embarrassing than being spanish and/or christian...

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>>25201424
>>25201426
>>25201436

of course I'll write badly, I don't even give a fuck, this message is to hit the right kind of person that can translate such message, this isn't for second gen mexicans americans dual lingo that have only being able to drink 20L of soda and speak two languages as lifetime achievement.

>>25201467
Because you and your opinions are cucked

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>>25201485
>I propose the full genocide of Iberians.
>Cucked.

masonic conversations, not even once.

>>25201451
>>25201456
I dunno, man you seem like you need more help than I do. Good luck, though.

>>25201528
based and kind pilled.

>>25201496
You write like a moor

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>>25201623
for a prideful one language native speaker you write like a mexican, if you want to be this faggot, no punctuation, no capital letter...

"when the wise man points to the moon, the imbecile examine it's finger" Pepu.

pic related is my great, great grand father, a pure breed unlike you.

>>25201813
You spawned from some Berber rape lady like the rest. My lineage is pure.

>>25201888
purest mexican bean...

>>25201924
My family hails from Galicia. Unlike the backwater sinkhole you spawned from.

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They've just introduced Spain's wool guild, the Mesta, and ascribe Spain's failure to capitalise on its empire or resources to the staticness that the guild promoted and the groupthink of the spanish rulers.
On another note, is there anything I should do to better embed the ideas? Summaries? Rereading? Should I just trust my brain to recall parts when I read my next history book, thus building that critical schema of history knowledge?
I'm not studying for a test I'm just looking to have more general history knowledge.

>>25201971
*partially ascribe

>>25201952
>>25201924
Verdadero mexicano aquí.
El ceceo de España y su acento rústico les hace sonar como granjeros maricones, y su raza no es precisamente elogiada por el mundo.
México es mucho más célebre y reconocido, tanto así que casi nadie relaciona al español con ustedes.
>P-pero ustedes son cafés
Y ustedes también, musulmanes. Blancos son los nórdicos.

>>25201228
Based. It's time the Christfags were held accountable for their orgy of cultural vandalism.

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I like the way she writes, although the content is a bit wacky. Massive coping on why the 1844 prediction was wrong.

>>25201952
>it's like being proud of being from an african tribe.

many are the galician inventions...

all the regions my family come from there is a world wide famous person, from mathematicians to astronomers, you have nothing, I'm connected to the world history, you're the drag of mankind and your days are numbered the gods themselves hate your kind...

Why is there a Spainoid schizophrenic absolutely BTFO about Bernal Diaz del Castillo ITT?

>>25202049
The only people who come from Naples are criminals, addicts, and whores.

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>>25202087
fuck you, before you even existed we were fighting Egyptians, your so called god wasn't even born and 2 thousands before your tradition existed, napolis were already so advanced that you were no different that a poop throwing chimpanzee..

you'll never have the hellenic genes.

>>25201971
Retain your semen

>>25202096
Whatever little Greek lineage you had was stamped out ages ago. Naples looks like a public restroom which is pretty fitting. Allies should have carpet-bombed the peninsula.

>>25202136
>allies should.
>country is 80% mexican

nice story hermanito, muchas empanadas, boludito, pelotodito...

>>25202177
>He serves Muhammad and calls upon Apollo

>>25201971
Write a short summary of each chapter after you finish it, then a longer summary of the whole book once you've finished it. If you want to go the extra mile, write a short essay about how the main points of the book interact with something you already knew before reading it.

Thanks for ruining my thread, Italo-spic schizo cocksucker.

>>25201451
Meds now

Italians aren't white

>>25202299
Double dubs confirms

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>>25201451
Fuckin' wacko

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Mesoamerican history nerd here, as usual I'll shill "When Montezuma Met Cortes", which will be especially important for the OP >>25200910 and >>25200923 and >>25200932 to read given they're reading Diaz's "True History"

It's a fascinating historiography and comparison of different accounts of the Cortes expedition/the fall of the Aztec, examining what the biases of each account is and how different tellings contradict one another, and how they have been retold and distorted over time and leveraged for different ideological/national interests

Plus, it gets into a lot of the personal as well as political background of both various Spanish and Aztec historical figures: It's one of the better books I've seen that tackle the political dynamics and motives of other Mesoamerican kings and officials like like Xicomecoatl, Ixtlilxochitl II, Xicotencatl II, etc, which is important as very few sources do this despite the fact their actions and motives played as big a part of how events played out as that of the (more commonly covered) Spanish officials. This is something I get into myself (including some observations even restall doesn't get into, tho moreso in even longer posts not linked here that me/friends have posted on other sites) here: pastebin.com/h18M28BR and arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/640670498/#640679139 and desuarchive.org/his/thread/16781148/#16781964 and desuarchive.org/int/thread/220614413/#220624574 and desuarchive.org/k/thread/64935126/#64961571 and desuarchive.org/k/thread/64434397/#64469714 + the other posts I link to within that /k/ post and the two posts of mine directly preceding that one

I don't agree with absolutely every conclusion Restall makes but it and his prior work "7 Myths of the Spanish Conquest", are pretty much mandatory reading for a decent understanding of the topic just to get an idea of how the different primary sources conflict with each other and skew details

Also pic related is WIP reading chart me and some friends are working on. I'll probably end up removing Broken Spears from the Conquest section for Collision of Worlds and/or maybe add a few books on the conquests of West Mexico and the Maya regions since currently this is very Central Mexico/Aztec focused, when in reality there were centuries of campaigns and expeditions against Mesoamerican states in other areas: The last Maya kingdoms didn't fall to 1697

If people want more suggestions let me know

>>25202931
>0 mexican writers
absolute shit tier usa grad school slop,
typical of chicanos
Start with Leon Portilla

>>25203012
Anon, you need your vision check, I have Portilla's "Aztec Thought and Culture" in the Aztec section

That being said Nahuatl linguists tend to be pretty critical of his interpretations of Nahua theology, and in general most Mesoamericanists agree that his ideas around Ometeotl are incorrect.

>>25202931
Based resident Aztec schizo

asg mongobögen

>>25203080
What makes me a schizo rather then merely an autist?

>>25203018
My bad. Didn't read the super small green letters.
Portilla is a pioneer, and a main representative of mexica culture. I agree his interpretation may not be the most 'methodologically' correct, but he engaged the popular public with mesoamerican philosophy and was heavily involved in the revalorization of nahua culture as a whole, and the possibility of its serious study.
Also, Authors like Eduardo Matos Moctezuma where involved in the interpretation of archeological sites such as Museo Templo Mayor.
I dislike the overly academic circlejerking of anglo view that is detached of indigenous and mexican reality today.
There are tons of archeologists and researchers from mexican-spanish descent that live closer to the matter at hand and it seems retarded to me that the biggest books I see in your pic are academics from anglo descent that live in europe or US and do mostly document based "research".

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Started reading this. Not even 20 pages into the introduction and they author is talking about his jewish wife and the holocaust, so I know it’s going to be gay as fuck. It’s from 2006, so I know large parts are going to be a waste of time and outdated because archeogenetics have significantly advanced so we have a much better idea of what happened in times with scarce records (like the Anglo-Saxon migration). I’ll still suffer through because I’m a completionist and maybe it’ll have some interesting info here and there. I got it for dirt cheap at a thrift store anyway.

>>25202038
Same anon, I’m at the last 200 pages and she points out how hell is a bad idea and it seems fitting for Satan ti have created hell

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>>25200910
Not reading it right now but I found it and it seems interesting.

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>>25200910
I couldn't find the history thread at first but maybe someone could help with commodity histories written by economists or anthropologists here? I already have Sweetness & Power by Sidney Mintz, what else is there?

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>>25204305
Gotta have the one on the most important commodity ever.

>>25200929
Burckhardt's History of Greek Culture is fine.

Birley's Hadrian, the Restless Emperor, is all about Hadrian but it has to sketch in around so much blank space that it's practically a cultural snapshot.

I have always had an odd fascination for Khotan because of CK2 and that one muslim war poem when they conquered and ruined it ("We went out among their cities/We tore down the idol temples/We shat on the Buddha's head!"). https://archive.org/details/bailey-1982-sakas-iranian-khotan was a fun read, wish there was more. Definitely not a perfect cultural history, though.

Cremony's life among the apaches made me sad. It's a eulogy, for two ways of life - the archetypal indian, and the archetypal cowboy. Cremony himself was a phrenologist who died of tuberculosis as a journalist in sanfrancisco I believe. Better still, its perhaps ninety percent foulest lies which is appropriate for a journalist. Funny though.

>>25204311
I already have that, actually. anything else you can throw at me?

>>25204354
I plan on getting the Burckhardt sooner or later, the second one is too expensive, but thanks for the third one, didn't know about that one.

>>25204354
And on the off chance you like Khotan as I do, most other books are just archaeological accounts. Nothing great. Learn to enjoy journal articles or learn Chinese.

>>25204360
I have a physical copy of the second from amazon, hardcover. Cost me 40 bucks, second hand from manatee county library usa. There's a new paperback on amazon atm for 33.

>>25204354
Didn't see you had four there, I meant the fourth. I might pirate the third.

>>25204117
I agree that Portilla played an important role in spearheading and popularizing viewing Nahua thought as an intellectual tradition that's worth studying in terms of having it's own developed theology and worldview, but ultimately my concern when compiling sources is to get what's most accurate and informative, and that can be hard to do with Portilla's work when a fair bit of his ideas are now outdated or are contentious.

But as I said and you now see, I do have some of his work in the chart and I don't expect to remove it, at worst I'll just include a note about some of the issues people have with his and Maffie's work.

I'm gonna be honest, I pay zero attention to if the authors are anglo or mexican or not. I'm sure there are differences in their approaches and how they frame and explore their work and proposals, but I've never sought out or examined them from the perspective of "This person is from this country". The fact that the sources lean towards anglo authors is probably just because I'm one of the few people who is really into Mesoamerican academic studies who can't read Spanish so almost all of my suggestions are english sources.

>>25200910
Is the Penguin History Of The Church any good?

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Love this book

Dead board full of gay schizophrenic bots

>>25200965
Not quite.

>>25204438
Okay, gotcha.
Didn't mean to be rude to you, and I'm sure your books are great in their own. I get that spanish sources may be untranslated and hard to find. It should be on our court to translate these and spread them to the international public.
But I believe any UNAM / INAH related research in mesoamerican culture is golden, and it is a shame these are not as popular in the global sphere, but as I said before, this may very well be our fault.
I could help create an essentials chart in the future that is centered on these authors.

>>25205935
It's kinda irrelevant to what we're talking about with books, but it pisses me off that INAH so often only publishes their findings in press releases, conferences, and books on their website (which are hard to find when they sell out) instead of academic papers in journals, which are a lot more detailed then press releases and easier to track down then books or conference recordings

If you have tips on finding out of print books that were published in Mexico, let me know, there's a bunch I can't find on ebay and other sites I'm looking for, even if they are in Spanish

>>25204656
the audiobook is fire too cuz it's read by robertson dean hella comfy

>>25206229
>It's kinda irrelevant to what we're talking about with books, but it pisses me off that INAH so often only publishes their findings in press releases, conferences, and books on their website (which are hard to find when they sell out)
Agree
>If you have tips on finding out of print books that were published in Mexico, let me know, there's a bunch I can't find on ebay and other sites I'm looking for, even if they are in Spanish
Honestly, I have found a trip to Mexico City the best way to find anything you want. If the book you are searching for is not being sold, it must be in any of the dozens of public libraries. First choice would be the INAH public library (BNAH), next choice would be Vasconcelos pubilc library. But obviously this is not practical. Also, I am not quite sure how easy it is to borrow the books, a student or teacher affiliated to UNAM probably has it easier. I guess someone very dedicated could scan and publish them online.
I've also found that Mercado Libre sometimes has these hard to find books being sold by some users, first or second hand.

>>25206246
Can I use those libraries if i'm visiting from the US? Me and some friends are planning a trip to Mexico City as it happens

I'm really interested in buying rather then just lending a bunch of INAH and UNAM published books though, so if there's any particular used bookstores, especially ones that offer an online search, i'd appreciate it

>>25206624
>Can I use those libraries if i'm visiting from the US?
You can definitely visit and check the books inside the building with no problem at all. There should also be a season catalogue to buy from. People working in BNAH should have a better idea on which stores to check out if you are interested in buying a specific book.
Museums like INAH or Templo Mayot should also have some interesting books, but mostly photography work for tourists.
There is also a buying catalog for INAH online, but it doesn't seem to be working for now: https://difusion.inah.gob.mx/tienda/
Hope it helps.

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>>25204656
Speaking of recent history how is picrel?

>>25206690
I'm specifically trying to buy some books from that INAH site (and from UNAM's publications) that are no longer in print/are sold out, sadly, hence why I'm asking around about used bookstores

>>25206878
I think your strategy should be going to a public library and ask about it to either staff or any knowledgeable clerk if you are lucky enough about your specific book.
Also, as I said, Mercado Libre can sometimes have some not so easy to find books.
Can I ask which book you are searching for? That could also help.

>>25205731
Chariots of the Gods tier IS "schizo tier" you disingenuous wacko.

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Was trying to read three books simultaneously but it was too much information that it overloaded my brain lmao, so I'm trying to wrap up John Adams, then go on to The Impending Crisis, then Sumption's Part 1 of the Hundred Years War Quintology.

>>25207220
AUADHD

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this shit has been helping me go to sleep
though the part about the cannibals was cool

>>25201201
Check out Mad Dog Killers

>>25207318
>though the part about the cannibals was cool
What happens? Not going to read the book just curious

>>25207227
Lolwut. I'm actually pretty normie

>>25201228
This book is 90% bullshit, stop shilling it

Finished reading The Great Controversy by Ellen White and she randomly drops the fact that aliens exists in the last page.

>>25200910
What are some good travelogues that double as historical-archeological documents?

>>25207200
I didn't post Chariots of the Gods or anything like that. Read the book and you'll see it's quite grounded.

>>25209226
You'd prob like The Great Railway Bazaar by Paul Theroux.
I haven't read the entire thing but that's exactly what you're looking for I think.

>>25209742
I have some Theroux on my Amazon wishlist. But thanks for reminding me.

>>25202087
Checks out. Most Italians in Youngstown Ohio are from that region.

>>25207197
I'll try to post a larger list of books later, but in the meantime, see >>>/int/220741149

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can someone recommend a good intro to soviet history

>>25210726
Allegedly Revolutionary Russia by Orlando Figes

>>25207392
They (the Qizilbash) help Ismail start the Safavid dynasty, it was only really mentioned in passing but gave a lot of flavor to the otherwise vague warfare and generic arrows on maps.
The description of how the body parts of one of his enemies got divvied up was described and it made me sit up in bed.

>>25201813
is that picture Cyndi Lauper or something?

>>25204656
good books like this but on the Sixties and Seventies respectively?

>>25210560
I saw your posts.

A word of advice would be to not expect to find these books for cheap if you want to collect them. They are a luxury.
If you already found an expensive copy available for sale... That is the price. These type of books with lots of high definition photographies do not usually get reprinted, and are very expensive since day one.
You know what you should check out? A Feria Internacional del Libro (or FIL). But do not expect them for cheap. There is actually a FIL that is centered on history and anthropology:
Feria Internacional del Libro de Antropología e Historia, there should be another one this september (as usual) in CDMX.
That is your BEST bet on finding these books.

If you can't make it into this date, there are always FIL events in mexico city (there are about 38 of these events in the year), and an INAH section is always present in these fairs. Although in September, you obviously would get much more variety.

If you want my opinion, I'd say the best 'home' for such books is for them to stay in public libraries, otherwise, these items may get lost. You will at least get the chance to read them and take some pictures within the premises. As another anon said, if you get a local friend, they will be able to borrow them and take them out (please do not steal like Bolaño).
It would be much they were available for digital consultation, or if they got reprinted... But I guess we still have much work to do. As you can guess, most people aren't very interested in spending 200 dollars in these kind of things, so there is also not much interest on reprinting.

>>25210560
I saw your posts.

A word of advice would be to not expect to find these books for cheap if you want to collect them. They are a luxury.
If you already found an expensive copy available for sale... That is the price. These type of books with lots of high definition photographies do not usually get reprinted, and are very expensive since day one.
You know what you should check out? A Feria Internacional del Libro (or FIL). But do not expect them for cheap. There is actually a FIL that is centered on history and anthropology:
Feria Internacional del Libro de Antropología e Historia, there should be another one this september (as usual) in CDMX.
That is your BEST bet on finding these books.

If you can't make it into this date, there are always FIL events in mexico city (there are about 38 of these events in the year), and an INAH section is usually present in these fairs. Although in September, you obviously would get much more variety.

If you want my opinion, I'd say the best 'home' for such books is for them to stay in public libraries, otherwise, these items may get lost. You will at least get the chance to read them and take some pictures within the premises. As another anon said, if you get a local friend, they will be able to borrow them and take them out (please do not steal like Bolaño).
It would be much they were available for digital consultation, or if they got reprinted... But I guess we still have much work to do. As you can guess, most people aren't very interested in spending 200 dollars in these kind of things, so there is also not much interest on reprinting.

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is this good? I saw it in a used store, it's pretty thick

>>25200910
Write a better OP next time.

>>25214450
Fuck (You), FAGGOT.

Any good books on the Italian Wars and the development of pike and shot tactics? Or anything on the Late Roman religions like Mithraism, Sol Invictus, early Christianity, and Manichaeism?

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>>25207220
Sharing my shelves.

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>>25215788
Good collection - looks like you've just about read through the entire history section at Barnes & Noble lol. How was Heart of Europe?

>>25215792
>Star Goys tie-in fic spotted
Now I don't even want to look at the rest of the pictures.