I thought Peter and Ivan from Sally Rooney's Intermezzo were pretty good

Where did you find this picture of my wife?

Because women don't suffer. Men do.

I didn't find Wuthering Heights or Frankenstein to be so

>>25206897
Do you also think only male apes suffer?

>Yeah but umm.... monkeys tho!
Just admit you got bodied, troon.

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>>25206897
Actually anon, there is a magic cure to solve male suffering you know.

>>25206919
Here it is folks. The image that OP made this thread for. He made this thread just to post this fetid abomination.

>>25206914
Is wurthering heights actually good? Wasn't it written by a teenage female? I cant imagine its good

>>25206949
Most men find Heathcliff compelling because he's a Byronic hero who likes beating women and calling them sluts

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>>25206956
Heathcliff beats women!? I guess that would explain the leather jacket.

>>25206956
He sounds based. But is the book good?

>>25206888
Cunt carriers lack theory of mind and empathy.
Not only is the three holed abomination born mentally deficit, but culture itself educated these abominations that they're special and unique (they're not) so they have no real drive and impetus to assume and analyze perspective outside their own. This autoclitocentric perspective of the female is enhanced by the simping psychologically castrated males who'll do anything, including child rape and child murder, to get into the good graces of the cunt for a chance of an access to the mutated asshole that festers on the female crotch: the only true asset of the failed fallen creature, mother of all degeneracies, called female. All this combined leads to the usual female perspective: me alone is important; everyone else is a prop.
Rape is the only answer to this disease.

women write men better than men write women
t. both male and female

>>25207209
YWNBAH

>>25206949
>Wasn't it written by a teenage female?
No, but frankenstein was

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art is about reaching towards higher ideals and what it means to be human and the meaning of life etc and nonwhites and women are incapable of doing this because they're not really people, they are not sentient so they just make "art" about what they know which is 100% of the time being brown and/or having a vagina

>>25207209
Totally wrong lol. I've consistently gotten better (anonymous) feedback for my writing of women than of men. Women just have a massive psychological need to preserve the secrets (such as they are) of their inner being and that urge warps their perception.

>>25206888
Because when you've just become a political subject three generations ago and youre whole gender has been for the most part excluded from education, segregated, abused, etc. then there are a lot of women problem to talk about.
You guys don't seem to realize that every woman you meet today has a mother and a grandmother that were gradually more oppresed than she ever was, and that she needs to take this into account. These are the first two or three generations in a millenary history that finally have the possibility of constituting themselves as free intellectual subjects en masse and you expect them to do this orderly and by following artistic standards and modalities of expressions established mostly by men.
Of course it's going to be a fucking mess for several years, maybe even full centuries, before we can fully recalibrate men-women relations and have new subjects entering into artistic discourse (same is true for minorities and so on). You complaining about the fact that they're not doing it right feels just ridiculous, this is resistance to a change that has been made inevitable by the two big technological changes of the last 200 years, i.e. contraceptions and women joining the workforce. There's no going back: please find it in your heart to accept this and try to be creative about how you want to move forward. New subjects are already on the scene, and this needs to be accepted, not rejected. I know it doesn't look good now, but art can only benefit from having has many different subjects from as many different individual stories and backgrounds joining in. I want to see creative stuff from all directions. It's fucking boring to live in a world where only one kind of person, people, gender, way of living sex, religion or ideology exists.

>>25207602
You can't even speak english correctly let alone comprehend reality. What a waste of time it was to read all that, you're a disgrace.

>>25206897
I need to believe that they do so that I can actually feel great sympathy and sorrow for a female protagonist who suffers in a book written by a man.

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>He wondered this afternoon how many discouraged young men had sat here on the State House steps and watched the sun go down behind the mountains. Every one was always saying it was a fine thing to be young; but it was a painful thing, too. He didn't believe older people were ever so wretched. Over there, in the golden light, the mass of mountains was splitting up into four distinct ranges, and as the sun dropped lower the peaks emerged in perspective, one behind the other. It was a lonely splendour that only made the ache in his breast the stronger. What was the matter with him, he asked himself entreatingly. He must answer that question before he went home again.
>The statue of Kit Carson on horseback, down in the Square, pointed Westward; but there was no West, in that sense, any more. There was still South America; perhaps he could find something below the Isthmus. Here the sky was like a lid shut down over the world; his mother could see saints and martyrs behind it.
>Well, in time he would get over all this, he supposed. Even his father had been restless as a young man, and had run away into a new country. It was a storm that died down at last,—but what a pity not to do anything with it! A waste of power—for it was a kind of power; he sprang to his feet and stood frowning against the ruddy light, so deep in his struggling thoughts that he did not notice a man, mounting from the lower terraces, who stopped to look at him.
From "One of Ours" by Willa Cather

>>25206888
WHY IS THERE NO BOOK WRITTEN BY A WOMAN THAT JUST SAYS "GOOD BOY OMG ITS SO BIG" FOR 200 PAGES?

>>25207665
I haven't read either of them, but I assume either anais nin or clarice lispector is like this. I don't read heterosexual female authors.

>>25206888
Begging the question on /lit/ has to stop.

>>25207904
lol you funny.
wrong, but id wrestle you for a bottle of vodka.

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>>25207621
>He wondered this afternoon how many other young men had sat here with their legs crossed, plucking the petals of a daisy and humming to themselves while bobbing their heads to and fro.
>He had heard it said often "Tis a fine thing to be young!" but it was such a painful thing, too!
>He couldn't believe that the old people saying such things could be so mean.
>He continued humming and looked on at the mountains on the horizon.
>There was a sunset.
>"Boy!" he wondered aloud, "If I was writing a book, I could describe this sunset in such pretty and verbose language. I could fill a whole page with sunsetty thoughts! Lonely lonely sun, splendorous like a bun! Makey achey in my breast, such breasty chesty fun!"
>"What's the matter with me?" he wondered longingly, pleadingly, entreatingly, with as somber a look ones eyes could take on before donning the shimmer of a tear.
>"Oh! But I mustn't introspect here right now before I go home, or I'll be here all night!"
>A statue of a man on horseback was down the steps.
>"Wow, what a handsome fellow is depicted in that statue," his thoughts turned.
>"I sure love cowboys, and hardy lumberjacks. Big hairy butches."
>His thoughts turned to South America.
>"Oh, in that vein, I also like the sound of Brazil. Caipirinha, caipirinha~"
>The sky was above him.
>"Well, in time I'll get over this," he supposed, standing up and dusting off his backside from sitting on the steps. Sauntering down with his wrists slightly upturned, he continued musing.
>"My dad was so restless when he was young, too," he remembered. "He ran away to a new country when I was born. I wonder what all that was about."
>A thunder's tattoo announced the advance of a storm.
>"Oh! A storm! But what a pity, what a waste of power!" He hastened his steps, his elbows starting to oscillate back and forth with his gait. "A power! A powerly kind of power!"
>In the shadows, unbeknownst to the young man, another man had been watching this whole time. He licked his mustache.
Cont. from "One of Ours" by Willa Cather

>>25207920
Enticing

>>25208407
aint my first rodeo, girl

>>25208200
see this is what i mean, women are hateful bitches that reduce men to their stature

>>25206888
It should be easy. Write a woman and add reason and accountability.

>>25208500
>reduce men to their stature
ESL?

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>>25206888
women are the reactive sex. they don't have force of will or agency like men do. their greatest strength outside of motherhood is in the manipulation of high-status men.

>>25208526
short stature men make short stature posts

see: >>25208530

I rarely read books written by women. They tend to be overly verbos and and tallk for way too about shot thst dont matter. Closest thing i read was Brandon Sanderson book

>>25208611
The phrase 'reduce men to their stature' doesn't make any sense

>>25208622
lol bro doesnt get art nor literature
nice.

>>25208634
keep reducing yourself to your stature, short king
thought the barbarians were in the gates

>>25208701
Uh... I would keep asking what the gibbering means but I'll just throw some responses out to it -- yes but maybe no / happy for you sorry you're like this

>>25206888
Women don't like men. If the evolutionary drive to make babies wasn't very strong, they'd always avoid us.

>>25206888
Men have a lot of problems with writing women as well.

In both cases we struggle to write characters as they actually are, not as they're viewed through our own lenses.

>>25208709
women are shorter than men, this is a biological fact. anon was saying that women metaphorically tear down men as though tearing down their height i.e. reducing to one stature both physically and mentally, esl-kun

>>25208747
lol the fuck world do you live in?

there are plenty of tall women. and ifyoure cool you can fuck them, if your ego can handle it.

you shits areso fucking stupid

>>25207184
Humans as a whole are an ontologically evil species, females are just more inclined.

>>25206888
Name ten examples that you personally have read. You aren't just making blind assumptions about half of the population without any personal experience, are you?

>>25208765
YWNBAW

>>25208747
The phrase
>reduce men to their stature
Is meaningless and your attempt at apology for it is appreciated but a native English speaker would never say the phrase even if you work this hard to contrive a meaning for it

>>25209078
What do you think "oncologically" means?

>>25209698
*Ontologically

>>25208723
Not true usually. If anything it's the opposite.

>>25208701
Tits or GTFO

>>25209692
The hormones have made you illiterate, tranny freak

>>25206888
As Genesis tells us, woman came from man. Man, in a sense, contains the female, but not vice versa.

>>25206888
I dunno OP tons of boys identify with Harry Potter

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/lit/ - il/lit/erates

>>25210372
writing pre-pubescent boys is easier because they're less differentiated from girls at that age. it's no wonder the books get markedly worse as Harry gets older.

>>25209200
of course not ive got a big swinging dick

>>25210394
nah they don't
btw male readership surpassed female throughout the whole series

>>25210394
literally no one has this opinion
also, jk massively sucks

>>25210372
literal boy here (not a tranny)

we dont relate to harry, hes a gigachad billionaire chosen one and he fucked a pajeeta instead of hermione

>>25210407
did not

>>25206888
Mantel's Cromwell is one of the most fully realized characters I've ever read. Gender war slop is tired.

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femcels can

>>25206966
It’s genuinely a top 20 English literature novel

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Fichte speaks of this

>>25206888
Men also can't write women.
If either gender understood the other there would be a gender war immediately and women would be legless, tongueless armless torsos used to incubate new humans.

>>25207602
based anon

>>25207602
get pregnant and get back in the kitchen

>>25206888
read song of solomon retard

>>25206915
male apes have to fight their way up the hierarchy and spend calories beating and raping foid apes, so yeah, only male apes can suffer

>>25207228
Percy wrote Frankenstein.

>>25206888
They don't want someone to be more interesting than their main character. If a man has a ton of problems, women will naturally gravitate towards them instead of the main character and realize they are dragging themselves through the book despite the mental anguish for anyone else in the book.

They can't write women very well either. Women's lives are wholly performative: the vast majority of women are primarily and principally concerned with their beauty and seducing men, which means they are simply unable to look inwards - a prerequisite for writing and appreciating great literature.
This is also why the best female writers are femcels.

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>>25206888
I read a Jhumpa Lahiri story where the man feels guilty for months because he saw a picture of a woman in a magazine that he was attracted to

>>25207602
"my grandmother was so opressed, she couldnt vote while her brothers were forced to die on the western front! :("

>>25207602
>hysteric gibberish
wow you do a great impression of a dumb roastie cunt

>>25206888
>why can’t female authors write?
fixed it for you