Post real life webnovel characters. I'll start:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xu_Xiaodong

my friend suggested I read Return of the Runebound Professor. Anyone else read this?

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>really want to write
>keep getting sick
>can't caffeinate so I can write properly
>it'll fuck up my sleep if I do and make the sickness last longer

I hate this. I'm being punished for going outside and being social. I'm losing backlog ;_;
I want to go to LitRPGcon this summer but now I think it's a bad idea. Even megadosing vitC doesn't help.

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Read The Academy's Immortal Professor instead. 3.4k followers can't be wrong.

It's one of the stories on my backlog but it's by one of the monster girl evo authors and popped off hard, topped RS for like a month.

https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/155227/the-academys-immortal-professor-op-mc-litrpg

Chapter titles: Just the number, or descriptors too?

>>25211890
>Xu was sued for defamation in 2019 for calling tai chi Grandmaster Chen Xiaowang a fraud, and the Chinese court ordered him to pay Chen approximately US$60,000 in damages and to apologize for seven consecutive days on social media. After refusing to do this, his credit rating was lowered to the point where he could not rent, own property, stay in certain hotels, travel on high speed rail, or buy plane tickets.[17][18] The restrictions were lifted after he paid US$40,000 in both legal fees and the cost of placing the apology.[19]
What litRPGs have a dictatorship cruelly tax and censure the protag?

>>25211936
I like doing chess and shogi titles but I'm going to run of ideas for them eventually. Descriptors never hurt though

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>>25211936
Do chapter titles because that's what I prefer as a reader.
It gives a sense of what's going on in the story just looking at the table of contents, and helps remember which chapter events happened in. When I see a table of contents on a fiction page and the chapters are just numbered, it's a bit of a turnoff. I have no idea what's going on or what I'm getting into.

Especially when I'm a few dozen chapters behind, the titles can be motivation to get back in and read through a less interesting part because clearly something happens later.

Example
>oh boohoo this ghost is training me but he's an asshole for 8 chapters
>fall behind
>chapter 19 hints at fighting a guard captain after joining the army
Okay so like I can tell it's going SOMEWHERE and if I want to see that conflict, I need to finish reading the training arc and it must end soon because the situation has changed. If all I saw was that I was eleven chapters behind I wouldn't have that motivation and it would even be demotivating.

>>25211936
I've never read a story where chapter descriptors added anything. At best they are neutral.

>>25211936
Preface every chapter title with "In which"
>In Which MC Understands
>In Which There Is A Murder
>In Which It Is Finished

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actually beaming that a couple of people read my work. hope you anons are having a great day!

I don't read crafting web novels but I kind of want to make one
Are there any must-reads in the crafting niche so I can get a feel for how people do it?
Specifically I want to write an alchemy/potion story

>>25211976
Don't read any of them, customs of genre are for sheep. Do whatever you want.

>>25211976
There are no must-reads for the genre. Alchemy has more big hits than "potion" though, so if you focus on potion you could go pretty far in terms of dominating a niche. Also look at "brew" or "brewing" since there are a few that are more focused on that.

Just do some investment on a potion system and how all the ingredients and techniques work and I'd say it's a concept with legs. Good luck!

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>>25211936
Chapter title + cool font + thumbnail illustration is peak comfy.
Not that I see any web novel does it, though.

>>25211976
It's a weird genre. There's quite a lot of series but none of them are what I'd call must-reads or even successful. Only one I can think of is Rise of The Living Forge but that's now been stubbed and is on Amazon.

>>25211985
Lol it's not that I would copy them blindly, I would use ideas that inspire me in that story as jumping boards to integrate or do in my own way. Reading in the genre you want to write is super helpful in my opinion
>>25211995
>Just do some investment on a potion system and how all the ingredients and techniques work and I'd say it's a concept with legs. Good luck!
I'm also interested in extending the alchemy concept out into beyond just potions, e.g. gels and other substances (like explosives). Gives them a reason to do some adventuring on the side too, though I don't like super heavy action, so just as an addendum

>>25212004
Yeah that vibes with being a crafting story. It doesn't need to be a thriller even if going out to collect ingredients is expected and has potential for action. Be careful with "alchemy" however, because that's a very broad concept of crafting that covers way more than potion brewing. Making gels and explosives totally fits with potions. Making golems and items would be more alchemy.

But I mean you could totally write 1000 chapters of straight just potionmaking and crafting slice of life and ingredient hunting so I think it's a good niche to target (also don't forget to put archmage in the title).

>>25211942
Too bad he couldn't have taken the Afroman route in China.
>get sued for defamation
>make music videos featuring your property and in-home cam footage of cops busting into your house and all sorts of shit

>>25212018
>Making golems and items would be more alchemy.
I've never associated golems and items with alchemy, and checking wikipedia and other general definitions, it confirms my general perception of it being material sciences/a precursor to chemistry
>also don't forget to put archmage in the title
Archalchemist
Or maybe I'll start the second wave of Grandmasters instead of Archmages

>>25211936
I've never done this, but it think people would have a lot of success writing chapters like how people write clickbait YT titles. Would probably increase engagement from the Latest Update page and phone notifications even if by a little

>writing long ass complex scene
>no problem 500 words in 20mins til it's done!

>writing completely mundane simplistic transition
>2-day slump of fuck all done

killing myself TODAY

>>25212029
Path of Alchemy [OPMC]
Rise of the Alchemist [Weak to strong]
Ascension through Potion
Lord of Alchemy
Potionbound
Grandmaster of Alchemy
The Alchemist Awakening
My New Life as a Max Level Alchemist
Turning Copper into Mana: How I became the Strongest Alchemist in Another World
Reborn as a Poor Alchemist: My Lv.999 Sexy Golem Creation is Obsessed with Me!!!

>>25212077
>writing completely mundane simplistic transition
>2-day slump of fuck all done
I empathize with this, just start outright hard-scene-skipping to the next part you want to write, or using a few lines to skim through if there's super relevant info. Readers haven't ever indicated that they care that I do this

would a survival crafting litRPG fill a good niche in RR?

This is probably the dumbest question ever in these threads but is there a definitive guide to write a LitRPG?
Or do I just follow whatever video game mechanic I like and go from there?

>>25212077
Just gpt it bro, most readers skim those sections anyways. If you give the previous writing it won't even sound like gpt and no one will notice, like half my novel is gpt

>>25212023
You have the order backwards.
He made vids on them because they did a drug bust on his house and found nothing.
Then they sued him for defamation and lost

>>25211936
>Chapter titles: Just the number, or descriptors too?
Number and in universe time, possibly relative some event (e.g. Third Day Since Arrival in Province - Morning), is my favorite system. No spoilery chapter titles and readers can have an easy time guessing when something happened if they want to go back and reread something.

>>25212097
If it appeals to you, you can probably make it work. But no, it's not an existing niche.
>>25212103
>>25212172
Of course there isn't. Does a definitive guide to writing books exist? Writing romance? Etc. I guess there's some stuff like Save the Cat but I don't recommend prescriptive guides like that. An equivalent doesn't exist for litrpg, certainly
Read some books in the genre, see what you like, make your own

>>25212103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lznTKnpOd24&t

How does posting chapters work on Space battles? Are there any posting guides on it?

>>25212189
The threadmark system is a little weird but you should be able to figure it out easily. After your first post you just threadmark future posts as part of the story, or if you want to make a regular reply, you simply don't add a title and it won't threadmark by default.
It's not at all something that needs a guide

>>25212097
You’re not the first guy who asked this question in the last few threads. So, clearly, there is an appetite for it. A gap in the market waiting to be filled.
How big this niche is, though, is anybody’s guess.

Was /wg/ cursed by the jannies? It's not updating anymore.

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Has any web novel achieved literary significance yet?

>>25212224
go away baiter retard

>>25211871
>The Undying Emperor Chapter 0-1
Let's go!

Ah... After reading it, I feel I didn't quite absorb it.
Bits of humor were fun. But I felt distracted by the strange word choices and the length of these sentences.
From what I understood, the premise appeared promising.

>>25212097
just write it already god damn

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submitted my novel to RoyalRoad and set up my Patreon. Wish me luck.

>>25212258
You shouldn't need or rely on luck
But I wish it nonetheless. Godspeed

>>25212265
all business endeavors rely on some element of luck. I wish we lived in a meritocracy but we don't. Even if you do everything right, some retard jannie can decide she doesn't like your cover art and ban your story.
>>25211936
I do chapter titles because I'm going for a L'morte d'Arthur / Don Quixote vibe.

>>25212258
goodluck
>patreon
cart before the horse but might as well I suppose

>>25212258
You guys just write novels just like that? I've been here forever trying to think of an interesting story to tell so I can actually write.

>>25212224
Reverend Insanity

>>25212273
>Even if you do everything right, some retard jannie can decide she doesn't like your cover art and ban your story.
Stop posting gooner bait with tits out and you won't ever have this issue

>>25212291
nah. It took a year to write the first draft, then another year to do the rewrite and get the prose where I wanted it to be. Then it took three months for my cover art commission to come in, then it took another two months for the designer to put the cover together. It was a lot of work.

Be honest. Are you willing to cater to the market's taste to succeed?

Or do you just want to write a story for your own satisfaction?

Do you think your story legitimately aligns with the market?

>>25212304
>three months for an art commission
sounds incredibly annoying

>>25212306
I find the middle ground between unshackled whimsy and designing for the market which is what the vast majority of successful authors do

>>25212306
I'm not writing isekai or litrpg so no. For better or worse, what I'm writing is just power fantasy literacy masturbation exhibitionism. Space opera war epic is probably as far away from being on meta as you could get.

>>25212306
I write from the HEART
(my heart has autism and is a pathological maladaptive daydreamer)

Are we back?
>>25212306
Writing is a form of communication.
Writing for no-one is masturbatory so that dichotomy never made sense to me.
If a carpenter makes a chair that's impossible to sit in he'll rightfully be called a hack, but for some reason mental artisans have deluded themselves into elevating dysfunctional & unappealing pieces to the status of something spiritual.
That's not Art. It's egotism playing at refinement.

>>25212306
Why not both? Who says I can't just wait till the market trend rolls around to something that interests me?

>>25212333
hate this sperg

>>25212306
If you can't find some trending trope or genre that you honestly like, you're just a contrarian.

>>25212097
I'm still looking for something to fill the niche of https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/71472/sigma-16-sci-fi-survival-crafting-litrpg going on permanent hiatus. Essentially a litrpg of Satisfactory & Factorio.

>>25212364
considering that survival craft games (minecraft) impacted the imagination of an entire generation, you'd think that there'd be a a greater presence of these types of stories
I've seen a few of them popping up here and there but not many

>>25212306
I do want to write litrpgs, but I really don't get how people write power/magic systems in their story.

Does everyone just bullshit it or is there a method or reference and method to the madness?

>>25211871
Why is first person POV so popular on RR?

>>25212377
just wing it. hard magic is just science for Sandersontardlets. soft magic system is infinitely more forgiving and more interesting (Nen and JJK).

I personally drop system stories if they do the "Skill: '???'" bullshit if the MC is already a boring slob as he is. Deus Ex Machina but doesnt know the power just irritates me to no end.

that being said, I'm willing to forgive authors with bloated power slop so long as the MC is smart with how they use it and write it. just dont flood the fucking writing with notifications for fuck's sake (I get that word count is needed but come on man it's not that fucking hard).

>>25212387
Is it?

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>>25204565 Hey, just saw this post. Really appreciate you reading it! Thanks for catching those errors, I had them fixed on Amazon but had somehow linked a slightly older file to Mega by accident. Interesting that the text appeared noticeably smaller on your e-reader, this is how it looks on my phone.
Again, thanks for reading!

>>25212395
Also, I really appreciate the goodreads review. This was my first attempt at a novel, and I think I found my ideal pacing as I went along. And I am a Malazan fan and a Sanderkek, so indeed I am a sucker for compound words and worldbuilding terms that throw you right into the deep end

>>25212421
imagine being happy and having a love for life
the root desire behind all webnovels (revenge porn and miseryslop not included)

>>25212426
So mad

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>>25212258
Congrats man! Good luck!
Now that you're submitted are you going to make a serious play for RS? Run ads? Shoutout swap?

>>25212275
Nah having patreon ready to go on day 0 is the way to go. It adds to the needed backlog but you don't want to miss early subscribers. Even just five chapters ahead on patreon will catch some fish.

>>25212428
careful, you might get another one

>>25212431
What would Spectral Soul do in this situation?

>>25212430
It's my first time running a patreon and I've got a question about early chapters. Do I just submit the chapters as posts and hide them behind the "viewable only to subscribers" thing? Or is there another way to do it? Patreon is not very easy to get the hang of.
>>25212308
Three months is lightning speed. You just need to commission well in advance of when you actually need it.

>>25212443
nevermind, I just read the bottom of your image. Thanks.

>>25212443
>Three months is lightning speed
that's crazy. I'm spoiled as hell. I've got a skilled artist friend and whenever I've needed art for a project she'd get back to me within a week

>>25212431
Very mad

>>25212446
Do you write romantasy or harem?

>>25211929
Remarkable how creatively bankrupt a "writer" can be

>>25212492
There are thousands of paintings of the virgin Mary.
Are all those artists also creatively bankrupt?

>>25212514
seethe lmaooooo

>>25212514
Those painters did their works out of love for the mother of god. While the bugman in question wrote that piece of trash only out of scorn and greed.

Need some thoughts on
>initial chapter count/upload frequency when starting out
>upload frequency after the start

>>25212586
>initial chapter count/upload frequency when starting out
1 chapter per day
>upload frequency after the start
1 chapter per day

>>25211929
>popped off hard, topped RS for like a month.
wow you mean one of the authors from the cabal that works together to exploit the algorithm with fraudulent reviews managed to do it again? Color me shocked.

>>25212306
"Success" in the web novel market means making much less than minimum wage in my first world country. I'm not even sure what percentile author you'd have to be to make minimum wage here (~30k USD pa), 99.999%?
Web novel writing is just a hobby you do for fun, forcing yourself to write in a way that you don't personally enjoy is just pathetic

>>25212340
>ohe of the evolution writers writes a story in my immediate niche genre only to stop once he got criticism over the mc's decision-making
> claimed to slow down because of work but simply went back to pumping out chapter for his evolution slop
It's not fudking fair.

>>25211056
It's very easy to detect AI written content, but there is no definite "AI always does this and this," rule that you can measure suspected content against. It's like listening to someone with a distinctive voice. You can tell when a voice belongs to Morgan Freeman, but you can't describe how his voice is unique.

After watching months worth of tiktok videos with AI generated narration, I can detect AI slop better than any program. Basically if I'm reading a story and I think "this sounds like an educational / inspirational tiktok video," then I know it's AI.

give me your crunchiest litRPGs
people shit on stat spam but from what I can tell, most of that isn't reaction isn't reacting to system autism but irrelevant notifications
I want arkendrithryst and dungeon chatroom level autism and I feel like they're the only stories that take it that far

>>25212835
What the fuck are you talking about?

>>25212843
I'm asking for reading recommendations

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>>25212846
Clara Casewell, Attorney to the Villainess

>>25212849
I'm asking for recommendations *that are related to this criteria >>25212835
I applaud your autistic taste for its eccentricity

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>>25212857
Amelia Thornheart

>>25212835
Delve

>>25212835
you can give infinite realm a shot

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>>25212835
FFF-CLASS 'UNLUCKY ANTAGONIST'

>>25212907
I'm actually making a new royalroad account right now, fake some reading activity and then review your shit novel.
kys, faggot.

>>25212843
Lurk more before posting

>>25212954
the vigilante of /wng/

>>25212663
>I'm not even sure what percentile author you'd have to be to make minimum wage here (~30k USD pa), 99.999%?
To be fair, the odds are so low because 99.9% of people posting to Royal Road are beginners or unserious hobbyists doing everything wrong and not caring about that.
If you're an author who actually knows how to write (has a few books under your belt) and makes an effort to do everything correctly and also writes to market, your odds aren't sub 1%, I would honestly think they're above 10%, probably rising to above 50% if you keep at it for years and slowly build an audience and learn from your mistakes.

>>25212954
Screenshot and ready to deliver to Royal Roads mods

>>25213018
>Anonymous
ok, dumb retard. I made the account using a device and IP address that I never used for royalroad. I'll fake reading activity, write 1 or two reviews, and then I'll "read" your trash and give it a 0.5 star review.

>>25213027
Thanks for the new proofs I've just screenshotted.

>>25213035
want me to also send them screenshots of you calling people niggers and endorsing pedophilia?

Most webnovels are painful to read. So much pointless fluff. You'd expect the popular, high-earning ones to be free from this bad tendency, but some are even worse than the moderatedly or not popular ones in this regard. It's a staple of the genre, I know, but come on... at least Marvel movies make good use of the two hours they have to tell their stories. They dont really waste anyone's time. But webnovels, on the other hand, except for veeeeery specific examples, seem to be a waste of time in their core.

>>25213039
Please. I've always wanted to join the RoyalRoad staff team.

>>25213106
>So much pointless fluff.
I like the fluff.
>a waste of time in their core
perfect

>>25213106
>So much pointless fluff.
that's the point and I wouldn't read serials otherwise
you even made the observation "the top serials seem to all do this, but the less popular ones don't... how perplexing"
you aren't the target audience, lol

>>25213107
heh

>>25213106
the whimsical brilliance of soulful slop scorches the streamlined mind of marveloid "man"

>>25213106
If you think about it, maybe cutting "fat" was always a publishing industry psy-op to save on expenses? Wouldn't the millions of Twilight fans be just fine reading chapters and chapters of tangential content regarding the leads or the supporting characters going on about their lives in a way that had no impact whatsoever in the overarching plot but was endearing in its own way?

>>25213137
oy vey! think of the printing costs!

>>25213144
>>25213137
Printing cost is one thing. The real expense is shipping and shelf space. A book store only has so much inventory.
The switch to ebooks is why novels are getting longer and longer, despite the shortening attention span, and it’s why tradpubs turned into erotica factories. As women are the only ones still buying physical books by the dozen each week.

>>25213106
>>25212907
Each this story's chapter advance the plot.

>>25213175
+1 0.5 star review deposited into your account

>>25212393
yeah it seems so, every story I have come across uses it

>>25213193
When you're starting, it's easier to write in fist POV. Harder when you actually write well enough to give the POV character his own personality and voice, but serviceble if you just use your own.

>>25213209
>his
I only read FeMC

>>25213186
A screenshot has been deposited on my folder

>>25213211
Nevermind then, it's slop anyway

I miss when attention whores used tripcodes so their off-topic argumentative posts could be blocked and ignored.

>>25213193
I just sorted by followers and went down the list

Beware of Chicken - 1st
Primal Hunter - 3rd
Super Supportive - 3rd
Mother of Learning - 3rd
HWFWM - 3rd
Max Level Archmage - 3rd
Runesmith - 3rd
Zenith of Sorcery - 3rd
Azarinth Healer - 3rd
Sky Pride - 3rd
William Oh - 3rd

Yeah real dominance of first person there lmao

>>25213277
>moronically incorrect claim about the medium
tis engagement bait

>>25213285
I think it's more likely he just isn't familiar with the site and has only read a few stories and made a broad claim based on that (which is retarded in its own right to be fair)
It wasn't a waste of time because I'm actually interested in how dominant 3rd is. I honestly thought it would be a much more even split but apparently 3rd absolute dominates the most popular stories

>>25213277
>Beware of Chicken
0.5 stars
>Primal Hunter
0.5 stars
>Super Supportive
2 stars
>Mother of Learning
5 stars
>HWFWM
1 star
>Max Level Archmage
3 stars
>Runesmith
1 star
>Azarinth Healer
2.5 stars
>Sky Pride
4 stars

>>25213296
It's not that you have bad taste (well, you do), what offends me is that you have incoherent taste

>>25213301
>bad taste
wrong, but I understand that you are a dumb retard.
>incoherent taste
what an insane thing to say. My rating are based on facts and logic—it's not my fault that your feeling were hurt by them.

>>25213307
>—
Nice ai response

>>25213307
>Primal Hunter
>0.5 stars
Opinion discarded

>>25213312
>he doesn't have a split keyboard that he programmed himself
it's a single keypress for me———dumb retard

>>25213318
nice try chatbot user

it's not my fault that royalroad doesn't allow 0 stars

>>25213110
>>25213111
>>25213119
>>25213137
What kind of videogames do you play? The kind that advances non-stop toward a set goal, as in, all there is to do is missions that advance the plot and rise the stakes, e.g. Farcry, GTA... or laid-back games with no plot or hurries or stakes like Animal Crossing, The Simps, or My Summer Vacation?

Same question but with movies. And mention your favorite 3, please.

>>25213318
Fascinating. I wonder what other symbols 4chan can display.
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>>25213330
I am >>25213111
I don't play video games any more basically at all. When I was younger I played competitive ones - mobas and shooters. I also dabbled in minecraft but more as a social thing with friends.
I don't watch many movies so I don't have a top 3.

I assume you're trying to draw a link between these preferences but I think you're being a little schizo thinking one even exists.

>>25213330
>What kind of videogames do you play?
Anything made by Zachtronics Industries and Piranha Bytes (everything after Gothic 2 sucks).
>And mention your favorite 3, please.
Gothic 1, Gothic 2, Crysis

>>25213338
Huh, not a whole lot.
Let’s try…
【ツ】
ᑔᑌᑎᕮ
Nai waaa∼‼
▶⊳⋗Potion ×1 [1] 1

>>25213365
>Nai waaa∼‼
any litrpgs with love interests that talk like this

>>25211970
Congrats man, good for you! Let's hope the number grows.

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>want to write a story
>remember that I need to write

>>25213495
Isn't that literally a verbal tic from Kumo Desu Ga?
Shame on me for not going back and reading it in moonrunes yet.

>>25213338
Oh, it can do the trigrams. That's neat.

I've forced myself to read up to chapter 30 of New Life as a Max Level Archmage and goddamn nothing ever happens it's all inner dialog and highschool-levels of pointless drama. it's oddly charming, but apart from that i cant see the $20k+USD worth appeal

>>25214293
> it's oddly charming
You answered your own question. It also filled a niche that was lacking content at the time.

>>25214293
Objective quality and how compelling something is barely at all correlates with its popularity. As long as it's above a certain minimum threshold.
Remember, the most popular series on TV are shit like Grey's Anatomy. Soap operas. Telenovellas.

>>25214293
Out of curiosity, do any of the big patreons deserve their audience to you?

>>25214360
Zogarth only imo. I like that he admitted that he wrote the primal hunter only for himself and told his young patreonlets to go sit on the cuck chair and watch kek

>>25211871
rare good wn used as op
perhaps, possibly, op wasnt a fag today

>>25214403
Yeah that was pretty based.
Why Zogarth but not the other big litrpg number spam stories?

>>25214360
uhhh dadman
because the amount he puts out is freakish given the fact it still meets a minimum standard

>>25211871
I have encountered writer block.
Oh, well time to abandon the story and try agan 8 months later.

do you guys just bullshit ur power systems? I dont understand how wuxia novels do it. is it like an actual philosophy in china or some shit?

>>25214560
read a few novels and you'll figure it out

>>25214560
They just copy each other. I don't know which story did it first but it's not older than 20 years.
>is it like an actual philosophy in china or some shit?
No it's random bullshit copied form other genres and cultures and combined with Wuxia (which is purely martial arts)

>>25214560
I come up with a vague idea with potential for cool scenes (anime-esque), then contrive a reason to obscure the details from the characters and readers and dribble out details as I go. This gives me wiggle room to asspull if necessary, and if I'm planning a big wtf moment I do make sure to foreshadow it early, but subtly, so that if I get a dumb comment I can point to the foreshadowing.

I hate writing number crunch, though, so I shy away from hard numbers, and I think this does hurt me on Royal Road a bit. But it's not nearly as big a deal as properly characterizing characters, being consistent between blurb and early chapters, and lampshading the right interesting bits so they don't become too distracting.

When you think about it, the power system only OBJECTIVELY exists in the text on the page. Everything in your head outside that doesn't actually exist, it's only implied by the objective text. So really, you don't have to come up with ANYTHING to underpin what you put on paper. You can just, as you say, bullshit anything you want.

>>25214560
The conceptual ideas behind it have to be solid, and it has to be, as a whole, mostly internally consistent. Meaning it can't openly contradict itself without justifications. But besides that you can bullshit most of it.

>>25214464
>given the fact it still meets a minimum standard
Does it? I haven't seen anyone say they like his stuff here, or even talk about it, and people like a lot of different slop in this thread
He's also not big on patreon, he makes most of his money on Amazon
Overall a very weird answer and I want you to explain yourself

>>25214614
> haven't seen anyone say they like his stuff here
that doesn't really say much, the same few works get milled through and talked about over and over. both here and on reddit.

>>25214629
>the same few works get milled through
You mean the big ones? Yeah, that was the prompt.
>do any of the big patreons deserve their audience
But you mentioned dadman out of nowhere so I wanted to know why

>>25214614
>>25214635
hardened investigator on the case hunting for wrong opinions
>[question]
>[response, reasoning]
>out of nowhere

>>25214658
I guess you just lack reading comprehension? Dadman isn't a big patreon in any conceivable sense. You gave reasoning for why you respect him but my follow up was explicitly about how he doesn't fit the prompt and I wanted to know why you randomly mentioned some who
I'm still wondering

>>25214669
I'm not the person you've been responding to. I'm pointing out that you're acting like a sperg
if you react like this to every slightly misconstrued sentiment the thread will be nothing but your wannabe socratic ass grilling people
just point out the logical disjunction, call them a retard, and move on like a sane person

>>25214676
It's you weirdos making it a bigger deal than it needs to be. I literally just wanted to know why he brought up a noname. It should've been a 2-response exchange but then he failed to read properly
You're also responding pointlessly and extending this useless dialogue, btw, so you're being a huge hypocrite right now

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>WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME!?

>>25214568
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>>25214604
thanks for the answers. I guess the hard part about it now is making interesting villains or enemies that would challenge, beat, or lose to the MC yet also stick to the magic/power system.

I can see why monster encounters would be easier to write.

>>25214891
Well first of all antagonists should have a reason to oppose the protagonist's goals, so that there's an interesting conflict. Even more so if you endear the readers to the antagonist and his motivations, or make him really cool.

As for the power system, antagonist fights are a great way to introduce facets of the power system. Like maybe you have a little Dragonball Goku character who fights on instinct, so you have him fight a talented swordsman. Then someone using a mystical power, ki. Then he goes on a training arc. Then there's demons that are just physically stronger than humans and whatever the hell Goku is, so he has to use fighting technique and ki to overcome that gap.

Then aliens show up and show how Saiyans are REALLY supposed to fight, then there's another alien, and Saiyans have a secret power, and so on and so forth.

If you feel like this is derivative and bordeline stealing, it is. That's the secret of art. It's all stealing 90% of what you wind up making, but that 10% is where you're creative and put your own twist on things. JKR didn't write the first "boy discovers he's actually magic" or the first "boarding academy" story, either. But few would say she stole it all and isn't creative or original.

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Would Anon's recommend writing out a 70-100k~ story before actually putting it out on RR or another website? It seems like a decent number of RR stories split chapters into section that are around the 2k-3k count, compared to LN's or even regular novels or books. Does writing the complete story, or at least, a book or two's worth, editing it, and then making a WN version to post in those constraints seem like a smart move, or, redundant instead?

>>25214936
Strictly speaking you should have at least 20k words for the initial drop so that you can run an ad on day one. Then you want to post a chapter a day for the first thirty to sixty days depending on if/when you hit main RS. You may also want another 5-10 chapters to post on Patreon starting on day one, so between 10-20 chapters on day one, and then be prepared to write another chapter a day for the next two months. This is of course if you intend to make a real play to breakout and make money off your work.

And don't forget to set aside time and energy to do shoutout swaps, and keep doing it once your'e on RS. ESPECIALLY once you're on RS. It's a waste if you don't. Keeping up shoutout swaps is how you'll keep growing your fiction after RS, too. They're more effective than ads and don't cost money.

If you're not serious about playing the game then nah just write chapters when you want. Consistent posting will still get you an audience (small) even if you never run ads or actively shoutout swap.

>>25214891
Just make mc a villain then he can fight law abiding authorities and their forces. They will have the reason to fight the mc and they will also use (mostly) common methods and power systems.

>Goth Mommy, Bone Daddy

Finally, some quality literature in rising stars.

>>25214926
>Well first of all antagonists should have a reason to oppose the protagonist's goals
Strictly speaking an antagonist doesn't have to oppose a protagonist. An antagonist is just a force that hinders a protagonist whether or not they are trying to do so or even capable of trying at all. Ostensibly an incompetent aide could even be an antagonist.

>>25211890
Bump.

>>25215596
Bump yourself off the face of earth