Could a zoomer male even get published in the current climate? Also, any zoomer intellectual would have been classically educated and consequently won't represent their generation.

>>25213855
>where are the zoomer intellectuals
vegetating on substack writing the trillionth essay on zoomer inter-sex relations

>>25213855
I'll write one eventually. I need time alright. I got short form content to consume first

>>25213855
Any "zoomer intellectual" capable of writing a masterpiece is smart enough to realize that nobody writes nor reads novels anymore (except for women and their smut.) They're making animations, games, comics, etc. instead.

The only sort that would still be driven to write novels would be very weird and not represent what zoomers are.

>>25213855
Literature is unc coded, Tik tok is the future

>>25213895
>They're making animations, games, comics, etc. instead.
Made me audibly chuckle.

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>>25213855

I wrote some zoomer short fic. here:

>Dave spat out his boba, glistening tapioca balls scattering like sad wet grapeshot on the carpet.
>“Bruh, it’s the real Freddy Five Nights” said Dave, algo-speakishly. John turned to look at him, but not in the eyes, because eye-contact is cringe, even in a life or death situation.
>“Deadass we are going to be unalived here.” he murmured with a problematically queer-coded whimper.
>Freddy Five Nights hoovered up an animatronic claw gripping his axe, his disgusting but oddly sexy voice issuing forth from the yellowed ranks of his flat teeth.
>“IT’S FREDDIN’ TIME” he bellowed wheezily. He took one jerky step towards the kids, and then stopped to look straight into the camera.
>“Hey everyone. It’s me, your favourite animatronic psycho-killer bear. I just wanted to take this moment to reflect and hold space on the fact that while I might be a child murderer and alleged pdf-file, I would never, and I mean EVER, say an ethnic slur. Trans rights are human rights. Free Palestine.”
>Freddy swung his axe down and split Dave’s skull open like a melty piece of dubai chocolate. His brains splattered all over John’s face.
>“Chat, are we cooked?” asked John. But there was no chat to hear him.

>>25213855
I'd rather make a story driven video game

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>>25213895
>They're making animations
I think animator might be the only less prestigious, more thankless, less earning, in many ways more difficult, profession than author.

Why do the retarded bother commenting?

Zoomer here. Very few people in my life read. One is an english lit student. The other only reads sci-fi.
Literature is a dying art form - it is so uncommon that it is seen as performative to be reading in public: you couldn't possibly be reading for enjoyment, it must be to show women how intellectual you are. Zoomer girls read but its only romantasy 'minotaur milking farm' sloppa.
The next great zoomer novel will unfortuantely probably be a visual/video game novel or a manga.

>>25214050
being an animator works if you also make it a part of your social media grift. like if you are an animator and make some gay instagram reel of your "cool dark fantasy world" with trendy audio or something it will explode with views and likes. harder to do as an author as you cant aestheticize your commodity as well.

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>>25214058
That might be true but it's irrelevant to the OP. The next great contribution to literature isn't going to be written by any one trying to commodity max their social media grift.

>>25214075
social media is the antithesis of literature. instead of carefully chosen words set down to be permanent, it's lazy misspelled half-baked thoughts designed to be transient.
how much different would your opinion of Stephen King be if he never shat out one of his "thoughts" on twatter?

>>25214035
What, no land acknowledgement? I didn't realize Freddy Five Nights was so colonialism-coded.

Humanity is done for. We are in lord of the rings middle earth. Islam will be chosen as the religion of the future where the masses will pray 5 times a day to mecca and sauron will be the AI that wins in the end. Zuckborg and the sauromen will merge technofeudalism with islam with transhumanism to create DUNE on earth. All books not the quran will be banished, the internet will delete all knowledge not the quran. The libraries will burn. The global desert peoples will wage endless war amongst each other to feed the global AI system and genocide the book writers and readers that have different opinions from that of muhammad.

>>25213895
this. You have to trick normies into caring about the subtext by making the fronttext bombastic and marketable.
Indie comics and manga do it well tbdesu.

The thing is ,that normies actually yearn for substance in their media. They want what a novel has to offer, but they've been trained not to ever engage with something in the form of a novel and every other form of media kinda gave up and just turned full slop aside from a few exceptions.

Look at Disco Elysium. It has a solid 6/10 writing, but normies ate that shit up because it's the only game in the last 15 years that bothered to put a somewhat literary story first and foremost.

There is LE POLITIKZ but the front of it is the personal struggle of Harrier Dubois and people really engaged with it. A struggle with addiction, failed past romance and the political realities of a doomed world seems like something very /lit/-coded and it won game of the year 2019.

Normies love qualityslop but you have to trick them into consooming.

If you're a great writer, figure out how to most easily make your ideas into a vidyagame and you vill earn infinity dollars. Even rpggamemaker slop works.

>>25214053
I don't see zoomers topping Saya no Uta or House of Fata Morgana. I believe you're, in zoomer parlance, cooked as a generation.

I would kinda love an indepth exploration of the zoomer paradigm.
You're born into an uneqoivically evil world ran by pedophile cannibal elites, everry value of the past is either outright or subtly meaningless, and national identity no longer exist.

I would love for someone to explore the meaninglessnes of a zoomer.
Would be fun for example to tell like, a story of a zoomzoom chosen by God for some larger purpose who tries his best to achieve his mission but is gradually worn down, and the mission itself revealed to be meaningless in the full of modern context.

Zoomers are in our 20s, just wait some 10-30 years more and we'll be mature enough to write something decent. Your only option now is to read wattpad novels made by pervert female zoomers

That's it. I gotta ask. Is the thumbnail supposed to look like he is performing autofellatio?

>>25213855
My novel is releasing in a few weeks (it can be pre-ordered and everything) and it aspires to the level of ambition if nothing else. Self-pub is the only way to go for any work with serious ambition.

All us zoomers who actually liked books growing up are either going through self-publishing or applying their writing to other mediums like vidya.

>>25214174
I think any serious reader of literature who picked up King's books had the sense that he was a hack. Twitter just exposed the political dimension of his hackiness.

>>25213855
Did we even have a millennial great novel?

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>>25214389
yes

>>25214389
Sally Rooney I guess.

>>25214389
What was the great gen x novel either?

>>25214389
I must have missed it too.

>>25214451
salley rooney is so fucking bad dude, if any millenial drops a novel that's not ass it will be tony thallitimutt or whatever, about to right private citizens as soon as i finish this bad rooney novel

>>25214533
infinite jest duh

>>25214556
read*

>>25214187

Erm, yikes! called the fuck out. Sorry about that anon, I'm doing the work, I'm holding space on it, and I'm trying to be a Decent Person. I apologize to those who continue to be impacted by the white male colonial violence of the cis hetereo-patriarchal youth-lit industrial complex.

>>25213855
I dont think there is a lack of good gen z writers, but rather an audience for them to direct to.

>>25213855
>destroy society for zoomers
>socially engineer zoomers to be empty husks of individuals
>box them out of all of the institutions and give them zero opportunities
>wonder why they don’t produce anything through institutionalized means.

>>25213855
I will write the great zoomer novel, but it'll take me until 2045 to write it, sorry. It's going to be about an incestuous threesome, look forward to it.

Zoomers are old news, we're now waiting for the great gen alpha novel.

>>25214196
>6/10 writing
Never played it but from all the screens I’ve seen posted you’re being too kind. It’s like 4/10.

>>25214201
Saya no Uta is great, Fata Morgana is gay. It’s YA romance that was either awfully written, awfully translated, or both.
Jacopo is pretty fucking cool though.

>>25214638
a boy and two girls or will i have to skip it?

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>>25214643
gen alpha finna be cooked, bruh!

>>25214558
Technically, DFW is a young boomer. ‘62 is pretty late in the baby boomer birth timeframe.

>>25214654
one boy and girl blood related one step sister from their mothers remarriage

>>25214656
Alphoids are so anti intellectual it’s actually based. Zoomers are like that in a way they think somehow makes them superior, these niggers are just based retards and couldn’t care either way.

>>25214659
idk maybe the corrections then? it's not greeaaat but it's good enough

>>25214660
okay if im still around in 2045 i will give it a shot

>>25214660
add the mother and make it multigenerational incest

>>25214556
Why is Tony shilled so heavily on this board? He's a pretty middling MFA writer.

>>25214656
Yeah, this is just the usual bullshit post redditors generate by the bushel. It's a forum for liars to cater to each other's sense of righteous indignation.

>>25214663
DFW is proto Gen X anyway. IJ concerns Gen Xers and has that same pomo ennui typical of them. I’m just being pedantic.

>>25214389
No, but they have at least produced popular writers that made an impact in the culture somewhat. So far, the crowning achievement of zoomers is AI memes mocking Charlie Kirk.

>>25214656
Is this teacher retarded? Got his kids to read BNW and then gets surprised when he gets dystopias instead of utopias?

zoom zooms were raised by iphones and never saw pre-9/11 America. their whole existence has been a manufactured CIA psy-op from the beginning. they never had a chance.

>>25213855
>Where are the male zoomer writers trying to create bold new art
Creating 8 hour YouTube essays about a movie/videogame that’s 2 hours long

>>25214211
That's just the idiot

>>25214222
>autofellatio
Well posing for a portrait while reading is very performative as the kids say

All the zoomers with the technical writing ability to achieve good and true work are trannies and thus yoy and basically no one else will ever read them. I honestly wish I were lying or mistaken.

>>25214398
Kill yourself, jew. Buy an ad.

>tfw born on a date half the populus consider Ares, the other half Tauros
>tfw born in a year half the populus considers millennial, then other half Zoomer

>>25215218
oh no your poor little sensibilities, you were forced to scroll past a book cover! fuck off faggot.

>>25215516
Shalom, Rabbi

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>>25215530
stay gay, sweaty ;)

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>>25215536
>stay gay, sweaty ;)

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>>25215551
you sperging about imaginary jews every thread is somehow better than me sharing a great novel that i wrote? can't reply unless you're C20 or above btw.

>>25215562
>great novel

>>25215579
>another complete snooze of a post
bravissimo, grand contributor. can't wait for the next!

>>25215593
Are you referencing your lowbrow self-published slop that doesn’t even merit being used as toilet paper? If so, I agree

>>25215608
kek. maybe freida mcfadden would be more your speed.

>>25213855
I'm currently working on a novel that explores the induced psychosis of information and mass media addiction; the "soft" control of our lives held by algorithms; conspiracies, esoteric cults; pornography, either explicit or implicit; the story tries to get at the core of what makes these constructed realities so enticing to us, what kind of psychological, developmental, spiritual holes we're trying to fill with them. I'm still in a very early phase of drafting, so I don't have much to share.
>>25213864
I've thought about this quite a bit; I had a slightly more "classical" education than some (home-schooling), but I'm definitely not separated from the core issues we zoomers struggle with; the atomization, the breakdown of distinction between the internet and reality, the chaos and noise of algorithmic feeds, the social programming. Just because I don't use retarded acronyms and niggerspeak like much of my generation, doesn't mean I'm a complete alien to their struggles. When I realized that, was when I began to realize I could potentially write something thay means something.
As an aside, I hate the people who tout poor-quality writing that consists of nothing but memes and buzzwords as "representing gen z." I think my generation deserves, and needs something better, something deeper, something that captures our generation in a reflective and thoughtful way, hopefully one that helps us grow, similar to what Infinite Jest was for gen x. I don't know yet if I'm equipped to do it, but I feel that I have to try.
>>25213895
There has to be a way to write good literature that reaches out and grabs even the algorithm-addled mind and doesn't let go; possibly a combination of extreme content (why many zoomers, I think, are so receptive to works like Blood Meridian and Berserk is because they're desensitized enough that it takes something extreme to make them set aside our irony-shield and feel something), plus overt/signaled metatext or subtext, reasonable vocabulary, stream-of-consciousness, and maybe some jokes? Make something that feels just challenging and extreme and edgy enough to be irresistible, with enough substance to sustain interest?
Surely we can't just throw up our hands and keep writing shit solely to stroke our egos, nor can we comromise and imitate short-form or social-media type content and take on the essence of the very infection that has destroyed public interest in literature.

>>25215664
lol. Are you the same poster of this?

>Probably 3 archetypes, the same 3 archetypes we've had for a long time.
>Writers who don't read:
>>immensely profitable dogshit YA, derivative fantasy/scifi, and legally distinct fanfics imitating dogshit genX/millennial YA, fanfics, and maybe the odd shonen anime, video game or light novel if the writer is a man (mostly smut)
>Chronically online with literary ambitions:
>>writer spends more time on twitter, reddit or 4chan than reading, and believes using meme buzzwords and referencing current events is the next huge leap for literature, pretentious as fuck but indistinguishable from a forum post
>Serious writers:
>>actually reads and appreciates important literary works and practices and hones their craft to create a style that is both good, and captures what we're going through in our time, not literally in terms of current events, but spiritually
>I don't think we've seen many of the latter group in either the millennial or zoomer generations. I think if we do get a Great Zoomer Novel (maybe I'll have to write it) it'll be very schizophrenic, having to deal with (probably among other things) the disconnection from external reality that we experience with the internet and mass media, the way we're all isolated by our own set of currents in the sea of random information designed to serve desires we don't even consciously know we have, and now more than ever before, the way that this bleeds into reality through our actions. Disjointed, somber, probably laden with autistic word-games and intertextual cross-references to obscure anime or something.
>In summary, I guess if there ever does arise a Great Zoomer Writer, he'd be a lot like Delilo, DFW, or Pynchon, with the paranoia and fragmentation amplified and maybe less irony and probably a lot shorter.

Either way good luck. I'll try to do the same but it'll be a byzantine mess to figure out certain concepts and the plot.