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Fuu sex!
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>>23796046
Discuss the boy himself.
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Is it bad for me that I only really know Tsudaken as Kaiba?
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Hikaru's new voice actress.
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After Grendizer U.
I have low expectations
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>>23796214
Exactly, new productions in this day and age almost make a point to make things more shit for the investors.
Make it as cheap and crappy as possible in the most inexpensive way possible it charge the maximum for licensing and broadcasting rights.
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>>23796046
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Hikaru's pre-reboot voice actress for reference.
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>>23796242
No, definitely not alone there. She's just not a talented actress, she basically is always has that vibe of "just reading off a script."
Apparently she's training an AIslop model off her voice and my first thought was, "that one will be on-brand for her acting, at least."
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>>23796118
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>inb4 Takeuchi Ryouta
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Umi is my wife
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It's just pointless
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https://twitter.com/rumirumi_81pro/status/2037842095126552620
Umi's new voice actress in AnimeJapan 2026.
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>>23796046
>>23796110
nu-Zagato has far more circles on his armor for some reason
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>>23796046
I hate this trailer because Caldina hasnt been revealed yet. even tho she is just gonna appear for exactly one episode and like 5 secs of the previous one.
also yeah, part 2 and all dat, but I prefer her part 1 look more.
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>>23796046
Damn, I was really hoping for a sequel. Not because I actually thought this series needed a sequel but because the original is already perfect and it needs a remake even less than it needs a sequel.
My Predictions:
* Only 12 episodes long, and only covers the first story arc (studio will be open to second cour for the other story arc but only if the first cour can beat frieren's numbers).
* mashins will be obviously CGI to the point that they don't even try to hide it
* Youtube dumbasses will complain that the "isekai'd into a video game" plot device is boring and over-used even though Rayearth did it first
* /a/ dumbasses will complain that there isn't enough waifu bait of these 14 year old girls who were designed to appeal to twelve year-old girls during the clinton era.
* There will not be any yuri per se but they will keep hinting that the kids *might* be lesbos because it worked so well for WfM.
* If we do get the second story arc the two sexy arab sisters will be redesigned to not be total sluts. It's not going to be something ridiculous like a burkha but they're definitely not going to be walking around in their bras 24/7 anymore.
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>>23797656
>the original is already perfect
the second half was garbage and the whole thing was poorly animated outside of stock footage (and even the stock footage definitely wasn't Sunrise's best).
Actually difficult to think of a mecha series more deserving of a remake. Rayearth is exactly the kind of anime that should get remade. It wasn't that good, but it had potential to be good. I was somewhat enjoying myself during the first half. If they just stick to the manga and don't do the anime second half shit, that's a valid reason for it to exist too.
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>>23797656
>studio will be open to second cour for the other story arc but only if the first cour can beat frieren's numbers
1.- Frieren is essentially dead since the author defected from Shonen Sunday due to the whole pedo scandal. there MIGHT be still anime, but it wont last, the project is dead, Frieren is dead (unfortunately), Rayearth will do fine.
2.- you are seriously overestimating how utterly short the manga is, both parts fit a dual cour season perfectly. they will get those cours easily.
>mashins will be obviously CGI to the point that they don't even try to hide it
Fair enough.
>Youtube dumbasses will complain that the "isekai'd into a video game" plot device is boring and over-used even though Rayearth did it first
Thats the dumbasses problem, not the show's
>/a/ dumbasses will complain that there isn't enough waifu bait of these 14 year old girls who were designed to appeal to twelve year-old girls during the clinton era.
i refer you to my previous answer, and the designs are just like the previous anime.
>There will not be any yuri per se but they will keep hinting that the kids *might* be lesbos because it worked so well for WfM.
ok, this one i dont get... huh?
>If we do get the second story arc the two sexy arab sisters will be redesigned to not be total sluts.
Did you SAW the trailer, right? we had the naked transformation scenes, with im sure even less coverage, and im sure they didnt drew nipples in the original anime either.
And also, you are saying that the Chizeta sisters look too slutty? have you seen Caldina!?(both parts) i would worry more about her than them, but again, if they did got the naked stuff, i see it unlikely for costume censorship.
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>>23797700
>1.- Frieren is essentially dead since the author defected from Shonen Sunday due to the whole pedo scandal. there MIGHT be still anime, but it wont last, the project is dead, Frieren is dead (unfortunately), Rayearth will do fine.
Frieren is maybe the most popular anime in Japan in like a decade.
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>>23797703
yes, but the manga is now dead since its gonna be impossible for the author to find another publisher, all thats left of Sousou no Frieren is whats left of the anime. the Manga will NEVER continue... and just to be perfectly clear, i DO hate that because i DO like Frieren.
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>>23797705
Also they already announced Season 3.
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>>23797703
As someone who's been living under a rock, what makes Frieren so popular?
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>>23797710
There is this thing called Google. You should try it sometime.
>https://x.com/animeupdates/status/2027830020823978362
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>>23797711
>>23797717
from that. a good chunk of authors who had manga published in Sunday and Magazine, including Frieren's author, decided to stop sending their work there and defected...
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>>23797711
>what makes Frieren so popular?
It's just SLIGHTLY thoughtful enough in present ideas that SOUND deep but it's also still just basic bitch shounen shit.
>Oh it's about dealing with loss and time and also here's 9 episodes of a license exam tournament
It's idiotic shit that morons think is clever
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>>23797715
It's as much of an RPG fantasy as Lord of the Rings or Game of Thrones is.
>>23797711
It's honestly at its heart a sincere, beautiful, and sentimental story about the passage of time and realizing that we can't relive the past. It is easily my favorite anime in the past decade.
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>>23797721
>It's as much of an RPG fantasy as Lord of the Rings or Game of Thrones is
Yeah remember that part where Gandalf wanted to kill the demon lord so he throws a pentagram from his staff? Or how about the part where Arya Stark had to be a member of the assassin's guild but she didn't have the correct paperwork so she had to do a side quest from the mango seller?
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>>23797700
>1.- Frieren is essentially dead since the author defected from Shonen Sunday due to the whole pedo scandal.
They didn't. They left the online platform, MangaONE, not the physical Shounen Sunday. That said, Frieren was on break since last year anyway due to health concerns of the author.
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Gandalf leveled up once. That makes Lord of the Rings an RPG.
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>>23797745
Dude I am 100% with you.
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>>23797727
dude. its still part of ShoPro. you really think they are just gonna go 'oh, ok, you left one of our platforms due to the scandal but we will still let you in the other'? that is not how it works, she is not working with them, PERIOD.
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>>23797750
Rumiko Takahashi and several other authors also left MangaOne and are still working with Shounen Sunday. It's a different editorial department.
Shougakugan freaking owns Shueisha. No one is going to completely break ties with it.
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>>23796110
Was it selfish on both parties?
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>>23796046
I never watched the original...
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Looks fine to me.
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>>23797843
well you should. It's really good.
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>>23797841
Yes it was
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Season 2 is so fucking boring and drawn out. They stretched story segments out to slow down for manga release.
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>>23797700
>Frieren is essentially dead
i was being facetious, i didn't mean that it would literally have to defeat frieren. I think they'll give it unreasonably high expectations which it can't meet because it's too niche. The only people who are genuinely excited for this show are /m/-fans and the CLAMP fanbase.
>you are seriously overestimating how utterly short the manga is, both parts fit a dual cour season perfectly. they will get those cours easily.
Not sure how to parse this but if you're saying that part 1 and part 2 will each be two-cours like they were 30 years ago I seriously doubt it. The original series had a lot of filler (I don't mean that pejoratively) which wasn't in the manga. Part I of the manga literally has a flying platform uber the girls between mashins which was destroyed early on in the anime so they'd have more opportunity for filler arcs.
I'll grant that Part II could be 2-cour even without the nova/debonair arc but they still won't do it. Khara's Gundam couldn't even get 2 cour.
>ok, this one i dont get... huh?
once again im being more facetious than literal but I'm predicting that like this show will get derailed with pandering to yurifags like WfM. However I also think that, like WfM, they're too pussy to actually do anything that definitively makes the girls lesbos so in the end we'll all agree it was a disappointment but we won't agree on *why* it was a disappointment
>And also, you are saying that the Chizeta sisters look too slutty?
No they're actually the perfect amount of slutty, my point is that they're too slutty for a shoujo anime in 2026 and therefore it will be changed.
>have you seen Caldina!?(both parts) i would worry more about her than them
okay, her too.also wasn't she the third bastard-sister of the chizetas? I could be misremembering, it's been awhile....
>if they did got the naked stuff
that's a fair point, it did not occur to me that they're still naked for the magic girl transforms.
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>>23797656
>the original is already perfect
>Really bad animation and pacing
>Shitty second half
>Once you know about the TWEEST it pretty much ruins everything
People who like the original just have nostalgia for it its far from perfect and a remake could improve immensely on it but just from the PVs it looks like a 1:1 remake which is a shame because there's not a lot to look forward to it.
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A new cast was a expected at this point because dear god anyone who played SRW T and 30 will tell you that old cast just can't do the voices anymore well except for Fuu's actress but Umi is completely gone now. Pretty solid choices though I agree that Takahashi is overexposed.
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>They stretched story segments out to slow down for manga release.
Isn't that usually why a lot of anime, especially back then, would either have filler like DBZ and Naruto or just have an original ending like FMA and Akame Ga Kill.
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>muh bad animation
even if i agreed with this, what in the history of the last 10-15 years of /m/ content has you convinced it won't just be stiff CGI animations made by people who don't understand what inertia is?
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>>23797970
people who think shows are better animated just because they're newer irritate me greatly. I especially don't trust how the direction is going to be which is a more important issue.
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>>23797970
Doesn't really matter. Most of the fight scenes in the original were slideshows, literally anything would be an improvement. This includes the on foot-shit you know, and there's no CGI shown for the character models yet. Stiff CGI would still be an improvement if we see the mecha actually move this time.
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>Doesn't really matter. Most of the fight scenes in the original were slideshows, literally anything would be an improvement
Yeah and these are all gonna be bright flashes or the camera zooming around like it's on cocaine. At least the slide shows were legible. So NO. It won't be an improvement.
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>>23797944
>if you're saying that part 1 and part 2 will each be two-cours like they were 30 years ago I seriously doubt it
no, no. i meant you can fit both parts in 24 eps. total, it is a considerably short manga. they arent gonna do filler, if they are doing this remake, they are gonna follow the manga strictly.
>also wasn't she the third bastard-sister of the chizetas? I could be misremembering, it's been awhile...
Can't say i have ever heard that before... maybe thats from Tsubasa chronicle or something? i know Caldina cameo'd there as a bartender.
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>>23797984
if you think heavily stylized facial expressions constitute poor animation you're really not going to like Rayearth because Hikaru inexplicably grows a pair of cat ears and a tail every time she does something cute, and that happens in both the anime and the manga.
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>its gonna be impossible for the author to find another publisher
[citation needed]
Mangaka moving magazines/publishers is nothing out of the ordinary.
>>23797710
They are talking rubbish. The hiatus was announced in October and it's because of the mangaka's health:
>https://myanimelist.net/news/73388773
>The editorial department of Shounen Sunday announced on Wednesday that Kanehito Yamada and Tsukasa Abe's Sousou no Frieren (Frieren: Beyond Journey's End) manga will be going on hiatus starting from the next issue.
>The notice stated that the decision was made after considering the health of both creators, Yamada and Abe, and that the manga's serialization pace and publication format will be adjusted moving forward. The statement also mentioned that the two authors will continue working on the series while receiving support from the editorial team, and that details regarding its return schedule will be announced in future issues of Shounen Sunday.
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>>23797841
No, Mokona's a nigger for creating a rigged game that made everyone suffer, that's the entire point of the manga, Lantis and Emeraude did nothing wrong.
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>>23797845
Whoever in the SRW writing team that thought 'the magic knights REALLY look up to the most insane, murderous and unstable robot pilots in history (except for Benkei)' was a good idea, totally deserves a raise, whatever they paid him, was not enough.
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What the hell does this even imply about pedo scandals you disingenuous pissant?
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>Working Designs
Kill yourself!
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>>23798825
I just remembered the Latin American dub changed their names. Though I don't know if that will carry over. Did Grendizer U's French dub or sub use the old Goldorak names like Alcor for Koji. I know the comic did since that was made in France.
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>>23798441
>This is canon according to the manga mokona.
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>>23797944
On the /u/fag concept it's likely given how the industry is completely saturated with self-indulgent otaku who make things purely for themselves. Like I don't care about the otome parts personally but I also can appreciate that the intended demographic of Rayearth does, and most likely the staff on the reboot don't and would rather downplay those romances in favor of playing up stuff like Nova or just throwing in yuribait scenes between the main cast.
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>>23798834
Said 'leftist' here.
The link at >>23797717 explains the situation.
>One of the authors at MangaONE was a child molester, he was working under a pseudonym, Shopro knew that all along and they defended it.
>Once the word got to social media, a dozen authors defected from the platform, Frierens author included.
I NEVER said Frierens author was the one behind the scandal.
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>>23797284
It's closer to the original manga design of Zagato's headpiece.
It was a dastardly complex thing, so the original anime probably simplified it to make it easier to animate, esp. while changing angles.
Which is FAR less of an issue with modern technology where an artist can just create a reference model in actual 3D and rotate it into various angles to get a good idea of what it should look like. (If not just let the software bake it directly into actual drawn frames, outright.)
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>>23798664
The real cherry is actually how the three girls posing things to the Getter team leaves the latter acutely aware of their own flaws, but TOTALLY unable to articulate them.
Effectively, they managed to put a cork in the mouths of the most foul-mouthed quip-slinging piloting team in /m/ history. Which is something, to say.
I'm not entirely sure WHAT it is. But damn- is it something.
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>>23798838
Imagine defending a pedophile that doesn't even know you exist.
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>>23799111
Hey no no no, nobody is fucking defending that pedo mangaka author, what we had an issue is the pisspoor vagueposty way that one anon started the topic and the poor wording making it sound like the author of Frieren was the culprit!
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You are a fucking retarded underage moron with the reading comprehension of a pill bug.
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Does anybody know why the fuck people (I'm assuming it's just Duel) are treating the OG show like some fucking sacred cow? It's a neat show and it's not bad, and I'm also tired of endless remakes, but who the fuck the cares enough about/thinks Rayearth is important enough to sperg out so hard about the remake?
The threads on /a/ when this airs are going to be abysmal with him running amok.
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>>23799153
i NEVER said that, AT NO MOMENT!
DEFECTING means leaving ON YOUR OWN WILL, The Frieren author DEFECTED from MangaNOW because he did not wanted to be associated with the assholes who defended a pedophile without him or the other authors knowing,
if i wanted to even imply he was the pedo, i would have said something like ShoPro kicked her out or something. GOT IT?
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>>23798844
The LatAm dub did so because TMS at the time was enforcing international names for the girls.
The Ocean dub pilot and some others had the names Luce, Marine, and Anemone and some countries did their variants like what you see (Fuu being Anais or Anne). The dub of the English video game and the Mixx manga were originally going to use localized names too but wound up going with the originals.
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>>23799163
I'm not sure either. Most of the discussion surrounding it are people swooning over the mecha designs or gooning over Nova. Everybody agrees that Rayearth 2 is terrible and the OVA is just a weird mess. I can even say the remake will be a visual downgrade because the original looked like shit for the most part so really outside nostalgia where the fuck is any of this glowing praise for the OG stems from?
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>>23799680
>Everybody agrees that Rayearth 2 is terrible
Manga version had far better pacing for the second arc because they didn't waste time on that weird nova/debonair side-story that had virtually no impact on the fate of cephiro.
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Anytime Rayearth 2 is brought up its shat on hard. The only people who like it are unironic Novafags or Iczer retards
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>>23799459
>The dub of the English video game and the Mixx manga were originally going to use localized names too but wound up going with the originals.
Wow, it's weird to think how things could've gone a little differently.
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For me, it's Eagle Vision.
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It's amazing how common it was back then for dubs to change characters' names to appeal to non-Japanese audiences among other changes. Also, stuff like Kids' WB removing Sakura's name from Cardcaptor and skipping to Syaoran's first episode to try and make the show more appealing to boys. The Fox Kids version of Escaflowne skipped the first episode because it was focused on Hitomi for the same reason.
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https://groups.google.com/g/rec.games.video.sega/c/ZTB10F-MMmY/m/gXN5y tBoHSwJ
Found the old discussion about that.
Stu Levy had two sets of proposed names for the girls in the manga too: Blaze/Nautia/Windi and Lustere/Marin/Wyndy.
Vic Ireland hated the TMS names and wanted to go with his own set of English ones for the game, but it ultimately worked out that they used the Japanese ones.
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Jesus, we Matrix-dodged like three bullets.
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I really wasn't expecting different but how depressing
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Different anon, but think PreCure is one example and that's because Toei trusted Saban's bullshit.
Voltron's stuck because WEP bought out the Go-Lion rights in 2010 (not immediately way back in the 80s as some Voltron fans think), so Go-Lion can no longer be in Super Robot Wars and there are legal issues between WEP and Toei so there aren't any home video releases in Japan.
Tatsunoko seemed to not mind the English reversionings of their titles, seeing as they still market "Samurai Pizza Cats" and approve of newer Speed Racer IP expansion. They're even allowing both "Gatchaman" and "Battle of the Planets" brands for merchandise, even if the latter's "show, but chopped up and localized" and there'd be no visual differences in the characters except the presence of 7-Zark-7.
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Alright I gotta know
Who is excited for this? Are you a femanon or gayfag or what?
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>>23797976
the existence of that show is an abomination compared to Trust And Betrayal. Bro didn't just promise not to kill so he could go on non-lethal scooby-doo adventures. He swore to put down his sword and become a farmer and make life grow to honor the life of the woman who brought him back from the dark side.
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What did they actually say there?
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62 years old this year.
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>>23818057
Oh Q'uve and also Chico from Diebuster. Yeah I know this voice.
So many of our favorite voice actors are getting very old anymore. The lady who does Goku is basically female Methuselah
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