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More resources
https://www.reddit.com/r/pianolearning/wiki/index/

Classical works by difficulty
https://www.pianolibrary.org/difficulty/

Web Browser Synth (free):
https://midi.city/

Metronome
https://theonlinemetronome.com/online-metronome

Finding sheet music
https://imslp.org/

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learning to play Avril 14 on April 14th
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zSkcZhXTzQ

What do you guys think about this Tony Ann character? I think he's pretty gud.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyenaRJyy00

>>129986817
wtf I know that park, I go for walks there sometimes. Small world

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-bethbS6A0

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I don't want to spend weeks/months learning gay baby songs. If I just do exercises every day, will I eventually be able to learn something I actually care about?

>>129988114
Unless you are talking about classical pieces like some of the harder Chopin/Rachmaninoff stuff then just start learning them now. Most pieces aren't even that hard. Youll get bored and burnt out just doing exercises most likely.

>>129988114
practice what you want, no one's forcing you to be the next classical prodigy if you just want to play pop songs. that's why i don't really follow the material here heh

>>129988114
There's a history of song books that progress by difficulty because it's a more efficient way to learn. Exercise books though like Liszt's technical studies, usually had teachers prescribe students specific exercises rather than sequentially going through the whole thing. So the normal approach has been music, then relevant exercises and not the other way around. In my experience exercises just don't always transfer to music. For example, try practicing scales then learning a Bach invention. The scales help, but there are other challenges the inventions have that exercises don't seem to cover.

bump bc solidarity with pianists

Who are the best pianists on youtube? I like daj does VGM but he doesn't post much recently

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An easy waltz for beginners

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>>129990901
Nothing against them, but I never understood how people can play these baby songs for 3 years or however long it takes them to be able to read sheets. I just started with songs that are way too hard but I really like and it's way more motivating to be able to learn something that both yourself and other people will enjoy as well. Then again I don't read/learn notes, fuck that overrated noise. Outdated system which holds newbies back for 3 years while they stare themselves blind at twinkle twinkle little star for weeks. II unironically blame the kikes for this. But don't get me started.

Is 24 too late to learn?

>>129991626
I'm 33, so no. Unless you want to become a concert pianist, in which case 4 years old is too late to learn.

>>129991573
Don't post troll posts outside of /b/

>>129991653
I'm not trolling at all, but feel free to stifle your progress by years by 'doing it by the books'. Not my problem. Nobody will notice or appreciate it, the songs you learn will be boring tripe and your progress will be slow as all fuck, but at least you can read notes I guess.

I took piano lessons when I was a kid and it ended up making me not want to learn at all. The teacher would make me play Bachs Invention in C Major over and over, if I made any mistake at all even if it was just my tempo being slightly off from what was written they would make me repeat the whole song. Just turned me off Bach and trying to learn in general.

>>129991686
Its not da jooos trying to trick beginners into playing starter songs to improve sight reading. You are just schizophenic/and or a troll.

>>129991900
>no argument towards the bulk of the post
>just kvetching about muh it's anuddah shoah
Don't pop a forehead vein, mister Goldstein.

>>129991573
What do you use instead of sheet music then?

>>129992286
Piano roll exists.

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>>129992327
Based Timmy Tencent

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>>129991626
yes. 24 you should stop trying to do anything just accept being miserable and stop having fun.

>>129993798
Well if the Hayler spammer says no then im going to learn out of spite.

>>129991626
Age doesn't matter; hand size matters.
If your hands aren't at least 9 1/4" from tip of thumb to tip of pinky, don't bother.

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>>129993889
Hand size doesn't matter. If you have smaller hands just get a smaller sized keyboard or use pedal more/roll chords. There is no way any of you have smaller hands than Yulia Wang who is a world class pianist.

>>129993993
>just get a smaller sized keyboard
I wish it was that easy.
>use pedal/roll chords
Sounds like shit.
>Yulia Wang
Hammelin mogs her. Guess who has larger hands.

>>129986020
Not sure this is the thread for it, but any thoughts on Hania Rani? I think she's a lovely pianist:
https://youtu.be/q7ucSisSMnM

>>129994031
The point is you can still become a great pianist. So what if you aren't top 100 in the world

>>129991652
>I'm 33
Ok but when did you start?

>>129994739
I started around 3 but didn't take it seriously until like 13 or so

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>PIANO COMPLETE BEGINNER 1 YEAR PROGRESS NO PRIOR EXPERIENCE
>open video
>I've been playing [insert other instrument] for 20 years but I've always wanted to try the piano

>>129995608
Just because the exercises are for beginners doesn't mean the fucking person in the video is a beginner you retard
You wouldn't accept driving lessons from a person who has the same amount of driving experience as you would you

>>129994739
33. I'm still 33 now. I can play 3 songs by memory and they aren't easy babby songs for noobs either. I'd say that qualifies as 'not too late'.

Trying My Favorite Things with my synth sax. Easier than I thought. I'm nailing this shit

>>129994031
No one's forcing you to play 10th with a single hand. Not everybody is born with Rachmaninoff's hands

>>129996982
what songs?

>>129997030
Playing a tenth with your pinky and thumb doesn't really count if you can't play every permutation of 3 notes in between with your 3 remaining fingers

>>129996982
How did you get started?

I now start training my left hand to no longer play octave if the chord shown has 7 in it. So if there's C7 i play C-Bb instead of the usual C-C.
Trying Overjoyed and it's incredibly rough.

https://youtu.be/uMiPkTqO6yQ
The giant steps improv i can get behind

>>129991652
>>129991626
There's no reason not to learn piano and start playing in rock bands, metal... pop genres in your 20s.
Even jazz.

>>129997032
Wind of tranquility, Moonlike smile, and Memories of gurabad all from the Genshin soundtrack. I'm not saying I can play them with perfect dynamics and fingering and whatnot but I can at least play some nice songs.
>>129997262
Just bought an FP-10 for 400 bucks and got started practicing my first song. Most of my time was/is practicing new or already learned songs so that's definitely something I still need to work on (start practicing scales and whatnot).

>>129998288
>Just bought an FP-10 for 400 bucks and got started practicing my first song.
With what resources? Just the sheet music?

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>>129988114
research Vincenzo Scaramuzza and his teaching methods.
technique>all
playing stupid scales or exercises is worthless.
he taught the same passages over and over that emphasized special techniques.
just search for that paper written about him and translate it via google or some shit.
there are sessions on youtube where you can see the teaching process.

pic unrelated.

Running out of songs I actually want to learn and don't know if I should just continue practicing fundamentals or just stick to learning whatever songs I feel like learning

>>130000923
you can always develop your sense of harmony with the same songs

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>Have synth
>Just noodle around in the pentatonic minor while modulating the filter/resonance
>Create absolute glory
Heh, nothing personnel pianochuds

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>>129986817
God if the composers of the 20th century were around they'd think everyone alive right now was a bunch of pansies fags. Real wet handkerchiefs do the 6 don 7 minor 1. That is fucking everywhere, what is wrong with people. Where are your nuts, are they just phone zapped microplastics nuts now

I asked ChatGPT to make me a piano piece and it gave me a midi file which sucked

>>130000080
No, synthesia / piano roll.

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Is it retarded to learn to play using synthesia?

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>>130000493
sus chords!

>>130003723
no, literally nothing wrong with it if you memorize the song you learned it. Done. Thats all there is to it. How you play is all that matters.

learning to read music can be useful though. But just learn something.

>>130003723
Yes
>No time signatures
>No key signatures (good for figuring out the progression)
>No tempo markings (yes you can see how fast they're falling in that particular implementation, but to me you lose something over a marking that says e.g. "Quick and Mysterious" and lets you interpret that for yourself. Not to mention something like a rubato marking)
>No dynamics, not just f and p but also all the little crescendos and decrescendos that give music its flavor
>No accents, staccato, legato
>No phrase marking
>No repeats, DC Coda etc
>No measure numbers (good for communication)
>No fingerings
You're only learning how to press keys like a monkey

>>130003723
If you just want to learn a handful of songs then its fine. If you want to become a decent player as a hobby for life then its worthwhile learning to read sheet music

>>130003836
>its worthwhile learning to read sheet music
why

>>130003847
It makes learning songs and practice routines wayyy more efficient and it doesn't take much to learn in the first place.

>>130003941
>It makes learning songs and practice routines wayyy more efficient
How exactly?

>>130003950
As opposed to synthesia or playing by ear? You actually can see the music in front of you and can take it at your own pace rather then having to keep looping the part over again and slowing it down. If it works for you then its fine, you can still get a long way off it but it wont be as efficient in the long run.

i only attempt to read sheet notes for the notes, fuck trying to figure out the rhythm as well

>>130005231
Why would you just straight up admit that you're low IQ?

>>130005258
i simply do not like them

>>130005231
I never play songs I don't know so I always know the rhythm in my head. I don't know if ill ever really need to learn to read it well. Using a metronome is kind of important though since I always end up playing too fast

When is playing with two hands supposed to click

>>130003739
more than half of what you wrote is bait lol
4/10
points for trying

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>>130006084
When I play with two hands i usually imagine my left doing another "conversation" that is not what the right is talking about.

I imagine the notes like; "blah blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah, blah blah, blah blah blah blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah blah blah"

And thats it, this helps me memorize the muscle memory of the left. What im trying to explain can only be explained by showing it but I hope you understood me.

I got the melody in my head and simultaneously im thinking about the "blah blah" the left needs to be doing at that moment. Right is my melody hand, left is my rhythm hand usually although doing rhythmical chords with the right sounds beautiful because that pitch change is simply more beautiful compared to standard bass notes.

>>130006586
Can you point out which lines are bait?

>>130006608
from the start it was bait
>no time signatures
lol he is seeing the speed of the song in front of his eyes already, he doesnt need to know a time signature or "he is going to be clueless on how to learn to play it" anyway wahtever

btw synthesia does have a feature to translate the midi you give it to sheets notation lol...
and it registers bpm, tempo, etc all that

>>129989431
https://youtu.be/5Pf4r6d05VU

>>130006653
>btw synthesia does have a feature to translate the midi you give it to sheets notation lol...
It's really shitty though and most people don't even use the program and just copy youtube videos

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Do you guys do ear training and does it help? I'm starting to get better but I still sorta suck at even just recognizing the same note in different octaves.

How do I get lightning quick to know chords? It still takes me time to think of the notes of a chord although I'm getting better

>>130007437
Yes, though I try to figure out songs, melodies rather than just the typical interval exercises because the same interval can sound different depending on the context. Singing is supposed to be the most efficient way to develop your sense of pitch, but I've been neglecting it lately.

>>130006084
practice them separately, then practice them together but slowly and then slowly get faster.
It just werks