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>>2065818
use hydraulic disc brakes. they work much better than pincher style rim brakes.

Road bikes have been more than good enough since the late 90s

MTB is where any sort of innovation has been made

What's next? Uhh full suspension road bikes
2.1" knobby tires on road bikes
Dropper seat posts on road bikes
Flat bars on road bikes

Nah bikes are fine and have been more than good enough for ages

It's the road, infrastructure, and a work life balance to actually be able to travel and use transportation more often and more easily

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>>2065872
>use hydraulic disc brakes. they work much better than pincher style rim brakes.
Dual pivot calipers were already technically perfect, as we're 1" steerer tubes. Road bikes have been engineered into homercar abominations of road and mtb tech.

It's sad to see and if you're pretty close attention it's a clear indictment of human character - both the evil of the merchants and the malleability of the consumer. Horrifying

>>2066379
maybe I'd rather have brakes that can be used from the hoods without having the grip strength and hand size of a male silverback gorilla

>>2066391
But at least you get those sweet disabilty checks

>>2066391
soibot my strength is waning

>>2066379
Rim brakes of any kind are inferior to discs because rims pick up more water and road depots, and due to the fact they’re a solid flat surface, don’t shed that material during braking, reducing initial braking performance and fouling the pads much more quickly.

The world of motorsport figured this out over a century ago, before they figured out helmets prevent head injuries, it’s incredibly obvious to anyone with any spatial reasoning ability.

Hydraulically-actuated slotted disc brakes are more powerful, more easily modulated, more easily cooled, and more reliable, than any rim brakes.

I've never in my life had problems w rim breaks when conditions are wet but I'm not a faggot driving two states away to a mountain range where I only ever do the descents

>>2065873
TPBP

>>2066701
Being a flatlander must be absolute hell if this is the kind of cope you have to tell yourself, no wonder you guys are so bitter that you spend all this time on internet bike communities telling people that gear ranges and good brakes are useless

>>2065873
I think dropper posts on road bikes are already a thing for certain races

>>2065872
Shut the fuck up disc cuck

>>2066379
>Dual pivot calipers were already technically perfect, as we're 1" steerer tubes. Road bikes have been engineered into homercar abominations of road and mtb tech.
Truth

>>2066584
>Hydraulically-actuated slotted disc brakes are more powerful, more easily modulated, more easily cooled, and more reliable, than any rim brakes.
That's fucking hilarious. You are an idiot.

I thought rimtards and cablecucks were extinct but apparently not

I can stop on cabke rim brakes just fine, guess im just a better braker, pheh :)

>>2065873
they already do this, they're called "gravel bikes"

>want to buy a cheap shitbike to paint and put my spare parts on
>all cheap shitbikes for sale are rim brake monstrosities
Total rim brake death

>>2066379
>Dual pivot calipers were already technically perfect
A delusional statement that could only be written by some fair weather fuckboy who has ridden in weather that approaches dampness, let alone actual rain. Rim brakes suck shit when wet.

There's zero reason to not have discs outside of performative contrarianism where you just emptily virtue signal about "old thing is best" because if you say something opposite of reality it allows to posture and pretend like you have some sort of hidden knowledge. It's social gnosticism and you should kill yourself tbhdesu.

>>2069552
i wont say i dont massively prefer discs for inclement weather but the only reason rims go from "not great" to "actually unusable" is because of nigger manufacturers who make rim side walls completely smooth to appears aero-obsessed fucknuts (who also only ride in fair weather, as they are fuckboys)

when a rim has channels in it to let water be shoved off into them and then sluice off, rim brakes can work at least at all. but every wheel made since 2005 has been fucking enamel-painted all over it

case in point >>2066379 which literally has rim brakes on a such a wheel that will make them not work at all because the rim tapers in for muh aero, implying he probably doesnt even use the front brakes at all (or even ride at all, given the bizarre brake cable management, unusably small pedals, and that the bike is spotless and shiny despite supposedly having had contact with the outdoors)

>There's zero reason to not have discs
let's be real here: maybe the frame isn't drilled for them (mine is not so I only ran rear discs, until swapping the frame and realizing oh shit it doesn't have HOLES and i am out of random mending plates to bodge shit). do not mount disc brakes if it is physically impossible to attach them to your frame, god might get upset at your violation of space-time

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>>2066379
>gatorskins

>>2069552
I'm older than you and I've daily commuted and was a messenger on rim. there were no disc most of my life, same as millions of other people. never had a brake failure. even in a downpour, you just have to brake a second earlier, but due to visibility you're going slow anyway at that point.
I'm not saying discs aren't more powerful, I'm just saying rim has never caused me any problems.

>>2069563
>I'm older than you and
omg unc :skull: why you're posting on this thread :sweatdrop: sweatdrops: :skull:

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>>2065818
yea I'm not sure how they would trick people into buying those useless bone shakers again
>>2065872
correct
>.t rides on the hoods

>>2070377
If you ride anything wider than 16mm and tires any thicker than 4mm tubeless you are slow, gay, retarded, and probably a DUI rider.

>>2070390
>wider than 16mm
so, the entire pro peloton?
if your 16mm tires make you faster than them, you really ought to start racing, you could make a lot of money

>>2069550
throw a cheap amazon air fork on one of those shitbikes and boom now it takes a front disc. mixed brakes are fine - if you can already lock the rear on rim brakes, then a rear disc can't add any more stopping power