yea you fucked up.

Better hand it over to me

>>2068968
>10000aud
do you even ride a normal bike?

>>2068970
No

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>>2068968
What is there to even talk about? You bought a mobility scooter anon. These aren't like motorcycles where you want to show them off, and they're not like regular bikes that have any kind of social aspect to them where you can talk about different components or frames or aeromaxxing.

>>2068971
kek
do you know how to fix a normal bike at least? thats a big one if you are seriously concened about this

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>>2068968
>bought a bike that needs electric energy in preparation for rising energy prices
Yes you fucked up
All those people in impoverished African countries relying on Buffalo Bicycles for their livelihood are more prepared for a fuel apocalypse than you are with your Chinese toy. Yes you did fuck up

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where would you get batteries if you wanted to build your own e-bike?
like with a name brand motor unit not a chinese kit

>>2068978
those companies make it so you cant use 3rd party batteries

>>2068978
You could in theory build your own battery, order battery cells online, wire them together, buy a programmable battery controller and program it yourself, 3D print a housing for all the cells, and wire up an interface for all the cells so you can charge them or wire them to whatever drivetrain you're using. I have a feeling that you won't though because that's an insane amount of time and effort with very little to gain from it.

>>2068978
>Google replacement battery for [your motor]
>hundreds of results

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>>2068978
Stackem in the tubes.
;)

an ebike specific thread would be cool since it adds a layer of /diy/ to have some electrics/electronics work along the usual bike wrenching, but /n/ is full of retards who don't wrench let alone solder

last night i finally got around to swapping out my stock handlebars but also finally wiring up my brake cutoffs. nothing complex but involved some splicing. next step is troubleshooting a janky shitty other controller i have that is slightly higher amperage but more importantly came with a cute little screen

>>2068978
you can get packs off of amazon that come with a charging and management board and digikey will sell you the individual cells for like 2$ each
>brand name motor
like what, what are you looking at that isn't chinked as fuck

>>2068968
>fuel apocalypse
so how're you going to generate enough electricity to charge that thing?
in a genuine fuel shortage, you'll go for a normal bike over an ebike every time. you're only using a little bit more food energy than you use ordinarily.

>DIDNT U KNO IRAN INCREASED THE PRICE ??? TRUMP CANT FIX IT !!! EBIKE IS LE BAD BECAUSE (((energy costs)))

i looked it up and ausfailia mostly powers itself with coal and has a national oversight board for electricity distribution. oil going up makes EVERYTHING expensive but power generation has a few steps between "sheikh mad" and "rolling blackouts"

>>2069002
the high end yamaha/brose motors are made in japan/germany

>>2069028
They operate on the same principles and the only meaningful difference among motors is spacing of sensors and number of pins to read them.

>>2069028
this full this if you dont buy a Japanese motor you are not a real E-Cyclist.

>ebike ""riders""
This is a fucking post... to every FAT FUCK on the road riding a fucking ""E-Bike"".

Now, I'm tired of these fat FUCKS popping up in all of my fucking trails when I'm looking for a FUCKING workout! I don't give a FUCK about the aftermath of ANY of you Tech fans that feel sorry for these greasy fucks!

You fat fucking disgusting ass-smelling
BLAWB,
Cheese-drinking,
Crisco-bathing,
Lard-gargling,
Calorie-thieving,
Cabbage-Patch Face having,
Dr. Robotnik looking,
WingStop eating,
McDonalds gorging,
T-Rex arm having,
Non-vegetable eating,
Cook with a George Foreman grill just to drink out the drip tray,
Wide load,
Hungry-Hungry Hippo,
PLANET,
Pretending to have a fucking thyroid problem,
Whale slash Free Willy,
Part bus,
Yokozuna,
Flubber,
Kirby,
Salad dodger,
Chair crusher,
Butter ball,
Go to subway but put everything on it,
Michelin Man,
Happy because Hostess is back in business MOTHERFUCKERS


I know there's gonna be a lot of people out there calling me a luddite, well guess what?
I'M NOT!!
I just don't feel sorry for fat fucking people, especially fat fucks who sit there all day, gorge and eat, and get to get around for absolutely nothing! While a bunch of sorry fucks like yourself play into it!


You don't like what the fuck I'm saying? Then FUCK YOU!

>>2068968
My battery requires 8 hours of charging, where do I even find the time to charge it? I don't want to charge it while I sleep.

>>2069328
check if there is a different charger for your bike. They usually ship them with the cheapest and slowest one

>>2069335
>cheapest and slowest one
is this dangerous?

>>2069340
>cheapest
maybe
>slowest
measurably and objectively no, trickle charging is good for all sorts of batteries currently in wide service. as long as the voltage is correct (a touch higher than the discharge voltage) then low amperage is pretty much guaranteed to not cause any safety issues, though it may hurt the service life of the battery in a non-catastrophic way (and is guaranteed to destroy it in the lamest way possible if it's too low). if the battery has a management system (which even the cheapest CHINKED goods come with now, turns out burning down people's houses is bad for business) it's even safer though might make charging even slower.

>>2069328
mine takes about 3 but it's a 36v ~10Ah battery, using a 42v 2a charger
> I don't want to charge it while I sleep.
why not?

Cyclists™ are jealous of ebike chads not for speed or laziness but because Cyclists™ insist that they're real wrenchers but can't even replace their own brakes

meanwhile ebike kit chads are becoming junior mechatronics engineers just to make their shit roll at all

>>2069357
You're literally riding a mobility scooter

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hey guys check out my new e-bike, it has quality electric motors and a range of about 30 miles. It takes awhile to charge but I can just do it while I'm sleeping for 12 hours a day, see guys I'm a cyclist just like you!

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>>2069366
crazy how one of those is more socially acceptable to ride than picrel

>>2069369
That's not an e-bike to be fair, that's an electric motorcycle, which have completely different performance specs and licensing requirements. E-bikes are chinese toys, electric motorcycles are actual vehicles, but they're out of the scope of this thread and board.

>>2069375
Incorrect. The Emmo Zone II Max is sold and licensed as a Class 2 (Throttle Controlled Pedal Assist) Electric Bicycle. The pedals just fold up into the frame because laws are stupid and very easy to circumvent.

They're also a lot weaker than you think, having performance comparable to 50-100cc scooters, as they pretty much always have even since the sit down car battery powered brushed DC motor scooter days.

>>2069376
Oh, then in that case I can completely understand why they aren't socially acceptable to ride. What an absolutely retarded tryhard design for an e-bike. Mobility Scooter fags have gone completely insane.

>>2069377
I mean realistically, you can't (or at least shouldn't) take it on the highway, same as a Vespa is a "real" gas engine scooter but also struggles to do 70kmh but does 40-50 comfortably, making it ideal for urban commuting.

There are slower gas bikes out there than modern electric "motorcycles" that no one bats an eye at, but replace the 33cc two-stroke with a 3-phase motor and everyone freaks out.

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>>2069046

Just bought one of those 2 stroke kits for my bike. gonna blast black smoke in the face of every dentist

>>2069012
>mostly powers itself with coal
Approx 50% of generation is coal, which yes we do have fuck tons of and yes it is reasonably cheap. The problem though is that electricity prices are set based on the highest source cost, which means that prices get horribly distorted by the price of natural gas. Nationally gas is only something like 7% of generation but it makes everything more expensive because of the Federal government's pants-on-head retarded policy of selling off all the rights to our domestic gas and not mandating a large reserve be set aside for the domestic market, resulting in Japanese and Chinese gas companies extracting our gas, selling it cheaply in their own domestic markets, while selling it back to us at twice the price it should be otherwise and leaving us with no insulation from global supply shocks.

This is how you end up with a situation like in South Australia where 70% of electricity is produced by renewables and cause a glut in supply during the day to the point that starting in July electricity will be made free between 11am and 2pm yet the price of electricity is sky high due to the remaining 30% being provided by the baseload gas plant at Torrens Island, which usually kicks in as the sun goes down.

>>2069509
political skill issue for not having a reserve or domestic market sales first

my city is just chaos with e-bikes, pedestrians, scooters, runners, cyclists, and cars. you'll be walking along and some mad max looking bike will pass you at 30mph in the bike lane. honestly kinda funny makes everyone mad.

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>>2068968
>doesn't need to be charged
>weighs like 20 lbs on average
>exceeds the speed of an ebike
what did it mean by this
[Post a Reply]

>34
>have pretty much never driven a car (took a few lessons to get my license at 26 and never drove again)
>american, which makes this even more pathetic
>have owned a cannondale road bike for around 15 years
>have put around 3k miles a year on it
>its now nearly 20 years old and I think sadly it might be getting to be time to think about replacing it
>feel like with all the use, I should get an e-bike or at least pedal assist, but I am concerned about the cost and additional maintenance upkeep it will take

any thougts here?

>>2069521
>>2069519
just admit that you're too stupid for electronics

>>2069521
ebikes make a lot more sense when you treat them as bad mopeds in a world where a moped can still be a half-decent bike

however you are an american incapable of thinking for yourself so just go figure out what NJB says about it i guess

>>2069521
I'd want to exercise my body as much as possible going into middle and then old age.
do you really want to backslide?

Why do americans throw tantrums whenever beyond-15-minute-city transit is available to someone who doesn't have to give their entire life over to the Government?

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>>2069519

>>2069568
Dont know that they do, but they should as its rescource parasitism.

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>framemoggs you

>>2069831
I like my electric trike because of the comfort and cargo capacity but it sucks on narrow sidewalks.

Hey bros I just bought an aventon level 3 did I fuck up? panic bought because of gas prices. I'm honestly just fucking sick of paying out the nose for gas I should have ordered it a long time ago

>>2069852
The best point of a trike is that in can ride slowly. I just drive slow over rough terrain or narrow paths.

considering just getting a class 1 instead of a faggier motorcycle/trike that people drive on sidewalks
getting kind of annoyed by how expensive they seem to be though

>>2069887
KILL YOUSELF YOU FICING LAZY NIGGER YOU DONT BIKE YOU NEVER BIKED

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>>2069885
>driver's licenses are basically impossible to get without grandfathering
>unless you're a boomer or have access to a boomer's car you literally cannot legally challenge a road test

>a practical and cheap form of transportation that doesn't need licensing gets popular

HOW COULD WE HAVE EVER PREDICTED THIS, IT MUST BE THE CHINKS TRYING TO DESTROY AMERICA WITH COMMUNIST (((fifteen minute))) CITIES

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Any reason not to be running a wide seat on an ebike other than "muh range"?

>>2069926
As an ebike owner I tend to not want to ride with any seat and enjoy seat tubes going straight into my asshole. #justebikethings

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>>2069927
Based fellow IT e-biker.

>>2068977
Solar.

>>2069521
Wheel kit. Dont ever replace a bike. Only endorses disposable culture. Even if its down to just the frame, all parts should be replacable. We you are gassed (biked too far) time constrained, inclement weather (sweating/freezing), the motor replaces you/pulls its own weight same no different than not having it.

>>2069525
Society is about specialization. He shouldn't have to know. Its a rabbit hole wank.

>>2069559
No reason you cant go hard as you want, not have to pace yourself/guess about having the energy to go back, make the world flat (eliminate hills), have a hardier built bike, CARRY SHIT WITH NO INPINGEMENT, with a pedal assist.

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ebikes do not belong on /n/

go back to /o/ and /toy/ you retarded niggers

picrel this is literally what you are doing and what you are like

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>>2069973
>not have to pace yourself/guess about having the energy to go back
Uh oh! Looks like your battery ran flat and now you can't get anywhere anymore because you're a retarded fat jeet who can't pedal his own bike and needs a "wheel kit"!

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>>2069998
That's why you pack a 2nd battery silly.

>>2069525
They're called Electricals

>>2070022
>5 electric holes
Electricity just needs to flow in 1 direction. You only need 2 wires. Are ebike owners stupid?

>>2070170
lmao

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Thoughts on the KTM Freeride E?

>>2069987
>go back to /toy/ you retarded niggers
oh the irony

>>2070205
You're literally too poor for a real bike.

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>>2070257
>real bike.
Huh?

>>2070260
That is not a real bicycle it is not even a Dutch Bike.

>>2070205
only not a nigger faggot thirdie bike because it is clearly a childs toy for parents who arent nons

>>2070263
Try turning your monitor on.

>>2070269
wtf its beautiful

>>2069046
Dale probably owns a fat tire ebike desu

>>2069926
above a certain width dependent on you're ass, it becomes uncomfortable to pedal when you need to. and at a certain point it just looks stupid and you may as well put a motorcycle saddle on it

>>2070309
I'm sorry you have a tiny, tight, small, twink ass.

>>2070318
why would you be sorry for that?

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I am here waiting for my ebike to arrive from china anyone else has it in here?

>>2070333
>>2070205
Sirs, ebikes are 1hp.
Mtbers and euros are melting about about 1.5hp dji emtb marketing that will ruin the regulatory environment.

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>>2070337
This ebike has 80hp

Are you retarded?

>>2070337
I am euro aswell and i don't really give a shit about any regulations, police doesn't give a shit if you are not being annoying

>>2070205
I thought about buying an older one they seem pretty simple and robust for an electric vehicle the range is laughable tho

>>2070339
>biggest thing of the advertising copy is LE IRON MAN PROPRIETARY APP PHONE PAIRING

it's probably garbage otherwise. Even Emmo and Evoque just go "It goes 80 and has carplay nigga what more do you want"

>>2070339
Ebike? That is an offroad electric scooter with DOT tires, or an Emoto.

>>2069831
This is an ebike (even though it's an etrike).
>>2069369
>>2070205
>>2070333
>>2070339
These are scooters.
>>2070260
This is a real bike. Happy to help explain this to you new friends :^)

>>2070357
>stark varg
>it's probably garbage otherwise
>Even Emmo and Evoque

Be honest, how many times a day do people call you retarded?

The most important feature to a Motorcycle is how easily I can pair my phone to it.

Speed restrictions bother me, phone apps for my bike bother me. I know I can bypass this by DIYing my bike but it seems like cope. We ebikers are the most oppressed minority in the history of the world. It's literally 1984

>>2069519
Not even an ebikefag but thats an ugly old ass bike. Looks like something an 80 year old man would have ridden in his 20s.

>>2070155
need a third pin for safety ground and two more for the battery controller to talk to the bike controller

>>2068968
Do ebikers like escooterists or normal cyclists more? I'm trying to understand all the weird alliances that exist, for example carbrains and pedestrifucks seem to suddenly like each other as soon as bike or micromobility vehicles enter the discussion

>>2070542
Thinking like this is why you're here

>>2070542
Alone you bend.

Together you stand.

Faggots.

I live in a well-industrialised country, yet the only people I see riding e-bikes are 40-year-old women and food deliverymen. Just today during a short walk I saw no less than five separate 60+year-olds cranking uphill on old 3-speeds. Any oldfags wanna chime in on whether e-bikes actually benefit the elderly?

>>2070575
In countries where motorists look out for people on 2 wheels they are useful for the elderly. In the US, the "muh elderly" argument is just an excuse by fat zoomers who want to keep burning down apartment buildings and ramming into old people on shared paths. They don't actually care about or like the elderly, in fact they want the elderly dead so they can steal their homes

>>2069831
I went to a place that rents ebike and they had an etrike for rent. Holy smokes it's so comfy and easy to ride. I would love to own one but it just takes up so much space. Also it seems like it would be a pain to lock up.

just get a used one for $1800 E-MTB front-suspended, bosch motor gen 4 85nm and Deore group, thank me later

>>2070663
Where are all these used electric mountain bikes hiding?

>>2070680
Maybe if you weren't a massively retarded nigger you would be able to find one. It's surely not that markets are different in different areas, even neighborhood to neighborhood, you are simply a piece of human filth with politics different to mine and that's why you can't find a particular durable good to buy second-hand at a cheap price.

>>2070680
>>2070683
You can always tell when there's someone new on a slow board like /n/ because all of a sudden there's a noticeable pattern of inordinately belligerent posts, as is the norm on the faster boards.

They usually settle down or leave eventually but wew, someone pissed in anon's corn flakes this morning. And yesterday morning and the day before judging by the posts I've seen in the last few days.

>>2070542
normal cyclists by a mile. e(kick)scooters are just trash. their owners tend to just be normal dudes trying to get around a little faster than the bus and i have nothing against them but rideshare scooters are straight up litter and if you're going to pay like 1800 bucks for a kick scooter with a motor and battery on it why did you not just get a bike that can actually survive a curb and is comfy to sit on

and dont even get me started on those absolute PSYCHOS who get a scooter then get a bolt-on seat for it. literally just get an actual scooter/e-bike. even just looking at basic amazon chink slop

https://www.amazon.ca/ZSNAKE-Electric-Tubeless-Off-Road-Detachable/dp/B0CC5F2C1B
>1800$ and they couldnt even be arsed to bolt on the seat for the promo shot, solid wheels, will burst into treats if you aren't a child riding it and hit a twig
https://www.amazon.ca/iScooter-650W-Scooter-Electric-Charger-Standard/dp/B0DP4LJGCB
>900$ and mad niggerish but at least looks kinda comfy and will only burst into treats after your second pothole
literally what is the use case for those crappy e-scooters except for being "micromobility" rideshare street cruft?

>>2070438
>I know I can bypass this by DIYing my bike but it seems like cope
it's not, it's both cheaper and more fun and results in a more unique-looking vehicle (and usually a better one, purpose-built ebikes usually use gutter trash for the actual bike parts on frames recycled from literal children's "baja" minibikes)

>>2070333
i keep seeing these on marketplace sitting for months at a time so they're probably shit if so many people are buying them and then immediately trying to flip it and still somehow not getting buyers

>>2070680
In the back room of shops in That London.
That's where stolen electric mountain bikes live ,silly.

>>2070438
Speed restrictions exist because these are literally made for children. If you want to go faster you'd have to get a license for a real Electric Motorcycle instead of this e-slop. I hope you get door'd going 40 mph in a bike lane and snap your jaw off.

>>2070819
I'm pretty sure they exist more for market penetration among the larger manufacturers, and the smaller ones only comply because of heat management. I have a shitty kit that explicitly doesn't care and has no limiter, and it doesn't let me break 30 because it simply cannot supply that much power. No different from old two-strokes being "for kids" because they physically can't break 40.

>>2070771
Scooters are more fun and way more bang for buck in performance. Find me an ebike for $900 than can do 65km/h

>>2070826
>way more bang for buck in performance.
granted the power:weight is better on a kick scooter but the quality of the ride is way worse and because of the nonexistent or actively bad suspension you cannot hit that speed safely. raw power isnt everything and if it were you'd get a proper motorcycle that can hit it and sustain it properly without exploding after running over a single marmotte

>more fun
actually fair and the main reason i only consider rideshare ones to be litter but other e-kick-scooter riders to be legit but misguided at worst

>>2070823
It's legal requirements. Having them go any faster would require them to be classified as Electric Motorcycles instead of E-bikes. Ones that are modified to go faster aren't strictly legal but it's not like cops have the time to pull over Timmy's on their Chinese e-bikes that have faulty governors. Things like heat management are only an issue because manufacturers never designed these bikes to go faster than 25mph, because they aren't electric motorcycles, because these are literally made for children. I don't see a single grown adult in my town riding an e-bike unless it's one of those rental ones

>>2070835
i get that you're trying to troll but you are exposing a fundamental lack of understanding of how ebikes or even most electronics work

i have one of those chink kits and it has no governor. it just gets fuckoff hot and way less efficient after extended riding and can only supply about 13 amps at a given voltage because that is simply how it is designed and what the electronics inside are capable of, same as how your dollar store phone charger only supplies 0.99A but your laptop usbc brick can do like 20A. on a downhill it appreciably adds power and does not cut out based on speed, on uphills it struggles because if it gave any more it would burst into flame (which is not good for your amazon listing when people complain about it)

and chinks will gladly sell you more robust ones and just say "for offroad use only :)" but understandably they cost a little more. but it's not like you need a license to buy this stuff. if you want a controller suitable for a motorcycle you can just buy one but they're like 500 bucks and dont even come with a wiring harness. same for the batteries, a tiny 1kg 36v battery pack is a pittance but if you want a pack made to drive a forklift you better be prepared to pay forklift prices. and if you can do that just get the full motorcycle at that point instead of enduring retards like you and your ebike derangement syndrome

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>>2069046

>>2069909
It's not licenses that are the problem. It's how fucked the car market has become post-COVID.

>>2070819
Yes, I will DIY my bike to avoid speed limits
Yes, I will sell homemade electric motorcycles with pedals to kids
Yes, I will slow down traffic and generally be a nuisance on the streets because fuck cagers
No, I won't give a shit if a little brat smears on the pavement like jelly
No, I won't get a license
No, I won't cuck out to regulations
No, I won't stop selling drugs to high schoolers in exchange for sex
This is the e bike chads creed

>>2071019
love this gif and artist. i wish i looked exactly like this. thank u

>>2069369
They are all motorcycles. There's just a lot of overlap. Put pedals and a chain on an e-bike and a 12 year old can hop on the highway with all the trucks and no license. In some countries, they just take tha chain and pedals off (lax enforcement).

Japan is the only place that got it right. You must pedal or the e-bike stops. Or it's a motorcycle.

>>2071051
yeah but in japan it doesnt take 200 years to get a license. you do a couple tests on a loaner bike and there you go. where i live you have to already own a motorcycle and bring it to your test (how, if you don't already have a license?) which by all accounts is designed to be failed anyway.

the same is true of cars. unless you Know A Guy, it is literally impossible to get a car license because you have to bring your own car to do the test, but you can't acquire let alone operate a car to get it there unless you have the license. it's a catch 22 specifically designed to >FILTER young people and immigants (including simply from neighboring provinces of the same cuntry, because they decided to not have any more than the bare minimum reciprocity agreement so you HAVE to re-challenge the road test after 30 days even if you have a license from the next province over)

>>2069987
wtf that's rad as hell

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My bike :)

I have two batteries and I keep the spare in the tube bag for longer trips

ebikers are vaccinated

>>2071323
you're on this website so you're already autistic; i don't see the harm

>>2071056
Sounds like the myth of sissyfuss I'm going through now. I want a car, after a long time of no car. 'Merica for the record. So I look up on how this works and it turns out, if you don't already have insurance, getting insurance requires you to shop at the places that cater to the DUI crowd. And that's just normal, post-purchase insurance. On top of that, to test drive a potential buy, it is suggested that you have your own liability, since the dealer insurance only covers damage to the vehicle being test driven. How do you get liability insurance for driving a car that isn't yours and isn't a rental? Well, you get "non owner car insurance". And how do you do that? Easy, just apply with your personal details including the car you drive every day, and its VIN#. Oh, you don't drive a car? No problem, just get one first!

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MobilityScooterfags are NOT dodging the allegations that they're just too retarded to get a proper electric motorcycle license

>>2071392
I've unironically thought about getting a motorcycle but I like using the bike lanes more than being stuck in traffic

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>>2071299
Looks pretty basic bitch anon. Get some streamers for those handlebars and some spoke reflectors.

>>2071392
i 100% ride my ebike specifically because i refuse to get jewed by the local constabulary and gendarmerie to get a license and registration and insurance etc etc. ebikes let me ignore the law entirely and that's beautiful

>>2071418
Based ruler breaker. I got my ebike registered at town hall as my green "business" vehicle so all the work and upgrades were tax write offs on it now. Cagers stay mad.

>>2071056
>>2071390
>"Why are Millennials killing the automotive industry!?" the boomer asks, sobbing over his iPad displaying the front page of MacLeans, mere minutes after voting "Yes" on a proposition to add a seventh layer of provisional licensing that prevents any new driver from driving during the day, night, with passengers, without a chaperone, any vehicle heavier than 20kg, any vehicle with not exactly four wheels, zero demerit points available, requirement to acquire and display a "NEW DRIVER" sign that also displays the driver's full name, address, and contact information, and imposes a mandatory 6000$/yr surcharge to their insurance payments, payable directly to Social Security

>>2071421
Actually I left out a fun detail which is that the extortionate "driver who didn't have insurance" rate is promised to go down if I agree to install a tracking device in my vehicle that has like, an accelerometer and shit, so they can figure out if I drive like shit, and I guess also develop an AI model to install in future automotive factory firmware to send directly to the insurance companies so they can tamper with rates in real time based on how much your car lurches around and exceeds speed limits, I assume

Basically, we are all criminals, but we can get good boy points by accepting even more surveillance (I have nothing to hide so what is there to be afraid of!?!?)

Needless to say I will not be doing that, I'll just pay the extra like a retard. I may be a retard but I have my pride and nothing can take that away unless you're a cute girl and you offer to peg me in which case disregard what I just said

>>2071428
i'm a big fat mutt but will peg you with a dragon dildo

>>2068968
that frame is fucking absurd but i kinda like it. w2c

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>Flyer Upstreet SL 3.10
>only 18.8 kg
I really want it, bros. but ebikes are gay.

>>2071752
you are incredibly boring

>>2071752
there is hardly people left riding normal bikes aside from roadies/graveltards and people using shitbikes for less than 5km. I don't think anyone cares and for the ones that do you're just another ebiker.

>>2071758
nah now that it's nice out i see lots of people on normal bikes. lots of lycra and Giant being ridden by karens and dentists

>>2071758
the only reason I even consider a boomer bike is because I live on a big ass hill. really kills the mood for some casual cycling

>got an ebike to commute
>last leg of the journey is a ridiculous 20+% grade hill after getting off what's treated as a highway (not even a "stroad", all that's on it are LITERALLY a marine gas station, then an oil refinery, and some turnoffs into gated communities)
>ebike controller is incredibly hot and battery is sagging horribly after banging redline for like two kilometers on gentle hills to not get killed by coal rolling F150s and giant car-carrier roadtrains
>in the middle of the hill is a guard post so i have to stop, all electrics are fucked up so the thing struggles to get going again after i show my ID
>boomers and jeets in their lifted trucks behind me flashing their high beams constantly because they're seething that I'm "holding up traffic" and "not visible enough"
gonna quit my job solely over the commute, i hate it so much

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>>2071764
A regular bicycle unironically wouldn't have these issues. 20% grade is easy work for lower gears and your own legs. Figures a MobilityScooterfag would also be an armchair urbanist too

>>2071766
i already go to lowest gear and my front gears are fucking tiny, that hill actually just sucks ass and where it is stresses me out even if it were flatter because it's on a military base so everyone else driving on it is a mall-crawler jeep or truck driven by an impatient self-important retard

>>2071771
I hope you get deployed lil' bro!

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>>2071774
i'm a civilian worker and a reservist so even if they brought back the draft i can literally just say that i have a more important job stateside so fuck off, and if they say no to that I already have rank so i get the air conditioned office that is struck with a hypersonic cruise missile instead of getting blown up by an IED in the desert

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Thinking of pulling the trigger on a pair of 48v battery packs for my 13A controller. Is it worth it or should I just stop being mechanically retarded and fit a two-stroke to my bike?

>>2071764
Just get another bike with more power? Maybe an actual proper electric motorcycle. I think the motorcycle test is actually easier than the car one

>>2071780
where i live you require a normal passenger car license before getting a motorcycle one, and they do not have loaner cars for road tests. i'm not buying a fucking car just to get an Emmo that can't break 40

>>2071777
>777
do both lucky man

>>2071777
>fit a two-stroke to my bike?
Do not do this.

There any decent bikes in the $500-$700 range?

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>>2071848
picrel is perfect for you

>>2071848
A $700 ebike is just a $700 incendiary device, you'll end up paying more for your increased insurance premiums after your house burns down, just cough up the dough for something that won't blow up overnight

>>2071848
Thats like the price of a bafang mid drive if you already have a decent bike

>>2071854
>>2071864
What's the price range for a decent one then? I don't need something too high end because I don't travel all too far or much, just something to zip a couple miles too and from work or the store

>>2071868
I wouldn't touch anything under $1000 and that's pushing it. $1500 is enough where you won't be tempted to do something dumb like buy the wrong size because it was on sale (you would be surprised how often people do this and regret it)

>>2071848
If you can suck someone off who has a Costco membership I have seen some nice sub $1000 ebikes on sale a few times in the past year there.

>>2071882
I wouldn't call them "nice" but they're probably the cheapest I would go. Not sure if they come with a proper warranty but the Costco return policy basically counts as one.

>>2071853
unironically rad as hell, i would fucks with a candy pink electric scooter (vintage de 1999)

>>2071868
dont listen to psyopped retards and freds. 700 for a mostly assembled amazon bike is achievable but it wont be great and wont burn your house down. but you can get a conversion kit for any normal bike for like 500 and have basically the same drivetrain as the full amaslop bike except on a proper frame that isnt sized for a midget child

https://goldenmotor.bike/collections/external-controller/products/black-magic-1000-w
under 400 bucks and you get everything but the battery. you can get batteries on amazon for about 150-200bux for entry level 10-20Ah ones and they're basically lithium motorcycle batteries without a fancy case. or you can get the fancy cased ones for twice the price but feel slightly better if you're an electricslet in addition to a wrenchlet

or like >>2071882 said theres some really dumpy PAS only types you can get anywhere for a little under 1000bux. in fact
https://www.princessauto.com/fr_CA/vélo-électrique-argent/product/PA0009528258
slightly more respectable but basically PAS-only bike for 800bux normal price. might be modifiable but with tiny hidden-in-frame batteries i wouldnt try to throw a throttle on there and expect much power or range

if its genuinely only a couple miles though i would consider that well within normal bike territory, you could even walk that

also if you're willing to buy and cry you can do it piecemeal from amazon or aliexpress for even cheaper. if you really wanna do some bodging you can be extra OG and use a direct drive from a motor out of a washing machine and a quad pack of little car batteries or some shit (though batteries are still the killer, a fucking 12v motocycle battery is still like 150 bucks from a reputable supplier, even a 48v tray out of a UPS is literally like a grand)

>>2071868
Shop used Velotric against old full suspension aluminum frames with nice wheels

my ebike finally died. the motor just makes a clicking noise and doesn't move. it's so joever now i have to use my legs like some PEASANT

>>2072065
2 times I thought my ebike motor died cause it was making strange noises. Both times it was something else.
1. melted cable to the motor
2. water got into the controller and was slowly shorting it out.

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>>2072082
i think it was overheating and eventual component failure within the controller because on top of finding my terminal block was fucking melted i tried it with a different motor and smoke came out and one phase wire was instantly burnt, then inspecting the old stuff one phase wire was HELLA burnt

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>>2071752
>ebike for tootling around the suburbs

Why doesn't it have a big comfy seat and upright BMX bike handlebars?

>>2072177
higher shipping costs. get some aftermarket bars and your own higher post you slovenly niglet

Finally decided to buy an ebike, but soon found out any decent ebike ($1000+) are all out of stock, and that's normal.

Searched online why, and apparently there was a global supply chain issue since the COVID pandemic? Wtf? There are people with money looking to be customers, but they can't build enough bikes?

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>>2069525
Bicycles are cool because of the analogue aspect to them.

>>2072378
ebikes are still bikes, just electric

>>2072302
muh supply chain was just cope for the masses as (((THEY))) consolidated their power into amazon and aliexpress

also dedicated bike shops stopped carrying ebikes as much because boomers are scared of battery fires due to fake news, people are buying fewer of them now that the initial novelty has worn off, and there has been a resurgence in RETVRN TO MONKE type thinking where people distrust anything high tech that they "can't repair themselves" even though they are total wrenchlets and were never gonna even replace their own tire let alone do any serious repairs or modifications

>>2072302
They are e-waste. People need to buy another one every year or so. There's no used market and constant NPC demand. Worry not though, eventually the subscription model will arrive and Mr. Shekelburg will send his Indian to deliver your refurbished rental every year.

>>2072426
>Worry not though, eventually the subscription model will arrive
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=e+scooter+rental+app
theres like eight million of the fucking things already, 4channers truly are completely disconnected from reality

>>2072431
Everyone knows about public rentals and financing options you dumb fuck.

>>2072434
evidently not if >>2072426 is saying they are the future and not merely the present hell

Do not get a front wheel drive kit or front wheel drive bike

they handle like complete ass, even worse than front wheel drive cars

>>2072471
I have a front wheel hub trike and it works just fine. But ya I would never want a front wheel hub on a two wheeler. Back wheel hub or mid-drive only.

>>2072467
This is not "the" subscription model yet because there is a free market and brands

>>2072475
not really because most cities who tolerate this slop get an exclusivity contract with one and work with the city to provide parking spots now that people rightfully get mad about them being litter

>>2072477
You are seeing the baby steps toward the subscription model. It goes hand in hand with the 15 minute city. Have you noticed the speed limits outside of town being drastically lowered the past 3 years? There are 4 lane main drags here that have been dropped from 80 to 50km/h.

>>2072479
>It goes hand in hand with the 15 minute city.
no it doesnt, because then you'd be able to walk. sprawl is the only way to make "micromobility" not a complete loss

>>2069378
that's because combustion engines, especially 2-strokes or steam engines, makes real men's dicks hard while your bike sounds like a souped up vaccuum cleaner. I'm all for you driving them with no license or helmet but you're not a real cyclist and don't belong on bike tracks that wouldn't also allow for mopeds. Fuck moped drivers licenses and all that jazz; i get why the ebike is succesfull but it's more of a legal loophole than an actual technical improvement on either a moped or a bicycle.

>>2072485
How about you use your huge brain to tell us the differences between an electric moped and an ebike?

>>2072485
>that's because combustion engines, especially 2-strokes or steam engines, makes real men's dicks hard
jokes on you. i have a moped kit and this weekend i will Definitely™ finally attach it to something now that i have all the random missing parts/tools/fittings/etc i needed before. i even bought a bottle of 2 stroke oil before ive even acquired gasoline

>i get why the ebike is succesfull but it's more of a legal loophole than an actual technical improvement on either a moped or a bicycle.

mark my words, THEY will catch up to ebikes just like how you need your Motorcycle Endorsement after 99 rounds of testing and 8000$ mandatory surcharges and 666% higher insurance and shit just for a 49cc Honda Cub

E-bike chud bros do you ever worry about your chain snapping? Is the added torque from the drive unit a big problem or have heavier e-bike rated chains mostly solved the problem?

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>>2072524
>her e-boiike doesn't have a gates belt

>>2070819
The legal oppression of ebikes exist to prevent a viable alternative to the extortionate, taxed, oppressive, regulated car driving experience.
In Euro countries, half the price of gas is tax, parking and speeding fines are tax, etc, hence ebikes are more regulated there than the US.

>>2072524
>she uses a mid-drive
Rear-hub master race here. If my chain breaks I just use my throttle to get home.

>>2072177
cause that looks tacky as fuck, why not just a normal upright city bike?

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>>2072557
This fully this. The only valid ebike is the Electra Townie

>>2072562
The Electra Townie isn't an e-bike, only the Townie Go is

>>2072564
This fully this. The only valid ebike is the Electra Townie Go

>>2072562
>>2072564
>>2072565
Buy an ad.

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>>2072562
For me, it is the Cannondale™ Corporation™ Tesoro™ by Cannondale™

>>2069525
>casual
>fat
>weak
>vaxxed
Prob dead by now.

why are they so damn expensive

>>2072605
batteries, mostly. we need all that lithium for vape pens and phones that get thrown out after a month, please understand

but really the kits without batteries are cheap as fuck, only a few hundred bucks

>>2072605
Why are you so damn weak? Just get a bicycle you dumb faggot.

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I had a choice of either buying a new Steam Deck or buying an E-bike, I went with the Steam Deck because I have functional legs and a normal bicycle already.

>>2072678
so you decided you had to choose between two childrens toys
You could have just kept the money, or went on a nice bender and got really fucked up

>>2072718
Alcohol isn't the answer anon, get your shit together.

>>2072719
>alcohol
Yeah thats lame as fuck i meant drugs

>>2072720
Alcohol is a drug, my man.

Ya fuck drugs, fuck alcohol and fuck video games. I ride my e-bike down to the brothel tonight!

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>>2072524
>xe doesn't wax xir chain, preventing 100% of all wear ever

lmaoaing @ your entire life

>>2072678
I doubt you could buy an e-bike that doesn't catch fire for $500

>>2072738
>chain is clearly cold and wax is clearly barely even melted
nigbro what are you doing

>>2072750
chain sous vide

>>2072764
there are people who literally sous vide their bike wax though

>e-bikes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuhscoEGUKs

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>>2072750
waxing chan

>>2072783
Sick AI Model Image ! Very Implessive !

>>2072488
one requires a license and insurance and the other does not. some mopeds have pedals but still require a license and helmet.

>>2072488
ebike has pedals on it.

boomers are retarded so they are incapable of writing laws that actually work. so there's bikes (which are largely unlegislated) and motorcycles (which are heavily regulated) but even in the heydey of legit "mopeds" as in "motorized pedal bikes" cities all over the place were pretty much unable to keep them under control and the only thing that did at all is that only dorks rode them so it wasn't a big problem

likewise people are only mad about ebikes today because:

A) people are worse drivers, and worse cyclists, and actually do cause problems on Mopeds

ii. protestants see something they can't collect rent and fees on despite the owner, well, owning it (see: car registration/insurance/etc)

3nd: the chinese make most of them and arguably the best ones so libtards and conservikeks alike SEETHING over Chyna (related to above, the chinese are out of their economic control and are bad drivers)

>>2072849
>ebike has pedals on it.
When someone opens with utter stupidity, you can safely ignore everything that follows.

>>2072875
don't blame me, blame the boomers who don't understand technology

class 1 ebike = pedal assist only
class 2 ebike = has a throttle on it but also pedals hooked up to drivetrain (even if you dont HAVE to use them)
motorcycle requiring 10yoe driving experience before even challenging the test and mandatory 10,000$/wk insurance paid directly to social security collectors = any vehicle that has 3 or fewer wheels

that shitty "power wheels" "dirt bike" toy that runs off a 6v battery and is slower than a walk? boomers had one growing up and got a boo-boo so now that shit is legit legislated as a motorcycle. 1500w e-moto that has vestigial pedals bolted to it that are not even geared properly to move the bike putting your entire body weight on one because the thing weighs as much as a car? still a bicycle, because boomers are incapable of writing laws that make sense instead of doing knee-jerk bullshit inbetween lead poisoning seizures and cranking their hog to minnie mouse

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Why are lithium car batteries allowed and no one freaks out about those, but any time I park my ebike somewhere someone freaks out about how I'm going to cause a fire just leaving it on the street for five minutes while I buy a bag of cheap rum?

>>2072883
Naturally, it proceeds with a brand‑new, never‑before‑seen strain of stupidity.
Tuly groundbreaking work.

>>2072884
Because everyone hates you, e-bike faggot.

If ebikes are bad why are motorized bicycle kits based?

what if you made a hybrid moped that has both an electric motor AND an engine?

>>2072884
No one has a lithium battery in their fucking car.

>>2072884
>a bag of cheap rum
Is this in canada?

>>2072915
you dumb motherfucker

>>2072913
That would never work.

>>2072918
Nothing is cheap in canada.

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>hurr ebikers arent real riders hurr durr

I ride a shitty e-bike and do all the maintenance myself, and got the initial model for cheap. But people on their Trek and Spesh "gravel bike" monstrosities don't even change their own tubes. Meanwhile, I carry a barely-not-full tool kit and a few spare parts on me wherever I go. It drizzles a bit, and all the people on their cruisers aren't cruising. It snows, and I'm the only one on the path. But on a sunny day, all the Giant clients are gazing down with a look of hate as I tighten or loosen something or other on my shitcube at the side of the path. But who is truly less of a biker? Who is truly less free?

>>2072961
>furry
>rides a fixie
How blown out is your o-ring?

>>2072961
>mentally ill fantasy post
You aren't a real rider. You're a casual who is afraid of effort and angry about being held to a standard by actual men. We have been doing repairs on the trails for decades. E-bikes are new. You are new.
>i carry
Your bike carries, not your weak ass. You don't do anything. Your e-bike has placebo pedals to 1) skirt laws and 2) convince you that you are a cyclist... which you know you aren't. Which is why you're mad.
3/10 cope e-pasta, made me reply to your e-cope.

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>>2072962
it has a proper hub and according to all applicable datasheets I should be able to fit an entire M82A2 barrel in my ass

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>>2072963
>Your e-bike has placebo pedals to 1) skirt laws
and that is beautiful. it's not driving it's travelling i don't need a license

>2) convince you that you are a cyclist...
I specifically said "rider"

>Your bike carries, not your weak ass.
my pannier was made of cheese and sheared straight off while there was still snow on the ground so actually I carry all the stuff I need on my back like a man. now that it's spring i will even bust out the tacvest now that I can't wear my larger winter jacket and stuff way too much crap into every pocket. i've worn firefighting gear, bunny suits(figurative: a CBRN suit), a dog suit(literal, mascot suit), and light combat armor (the lightest of the bunch) and as long as the suspension won't bottom out on my shitheap *I* will carry whatever I want, and even sling my bike on my back if I need to too because I also carry extra cotton webbing and know enough knotwork to stabilize it with the flash. meanwhile lycrafags can't even fit a multitool in their diaper and die as soon as their brake shoes get dirty

>>2072968
>i don't need a license
You're really committed to repelling vagina, huh?
>i'm a rider
We aren't talking about cocks, anon.

>>2072964
>according to all applicable datasheets I should be able to fit an entire M82A2 barrel in my ass
Dangerous levels of autism.

>>2072969
>You're really committed to repelling vagina, huh?
im gay
>We aren't talking about cocks, anon.
what a shame but i'll still lean on my pedals to break 35 when i see lycra and marvel at their bike making even weirder noises than mine does when they try to keep up

not when i see high-vis though, those niggas are REAL

>>2072973
>i'm gay
Yeah, I got that when you said you had an e-bike.

>>2072964
>I should be able to fit an entire M82A2 barrel in my ass
E-"bike" owners, everyone.

If Thoth didn't want us to have motorized bicycles then why does He not just allow them to exist, but presumably authored their being and promoted the necessary synthesis of sciences and technology to allow them to be manufactured locally?

>>2072969 Not the poster but many women ride e-bikes - e-scooters.

Ebike riders are the real life power rangers.

>>2073065
Those are NPCs. Real women ride bicycles.

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The rolling stool is a weapon to them.

>ebike
your so gay and poor

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Prothesenentzug

Anyone got foldable e-bike recommendations?

>>2073316
what's your situation anon
what do you need it for, what's your budget

>>2072927
You can put a gas generator on an ebike trailer and charge it as you go. Theres a cool solar panel design for bike trailers I know it.

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>>2073321
>Theres a cool solar panel design for bike trailers I know it.
no need for a trailer

>>2073320
Sorry for being vague earlier.
Situation: want an e-bike that is easier to transport than the regular kind, such as on a train or bus, and takes up less room when stored.
Budget: Highest I'm willing to pay is $2,000.

>>2073345
Maybe you should start by getting a job and getting a real bike instead of a children's toy.

>>2073347
Maybe you should kill yourself instead of doing a performative adult LARP on a niche forum.

>>2073345
>Highest $2,000
You can give jimmy bob a handjob behind the homeless shelter for his.

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>>2073313
based /o/ poster picking up discount groceries

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https://voca.ro/1gXeIlokhWO8

>>2072927
What? I've seen people make functional tribrid bikes before, they're also pretty popular in South Africa from what I've seen.

Unpopular Opinion:

I think both analogue and electric bikes are cool, and that the best option would be for ebikes to have more sensible design choices

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>>2073545
>and that the best option would be for ebikes to have more sensible design choices
go on

>>2072927
I successfully (with emphasis on SUCC) did it but then dropped my chain with bad clutch management. Luckily it didn't *break*, but the quick link flew away never to be seen again. Luckily I have a bunch more, reattached the chain and redid the tensioner/idler, and gave it a few test cranks. Seems ok but is worryingly loud, and it feels like I need an assembly with more axes of adjustment than the stock idler pulley. Maybe I'll bodge some shit out of an old derailleur or something, idk.

>>2073545
agreed but basically your only option for a proper looking bike with a motor are dogshit PAS-only ones with janky slow power delivery to appease boomers, or just getting whatever bike you actually want and installing a conversion kit yourself.

the same shit happened with moped conversions too, 99% of them are dogshit cruiser frames, or god forbid, those ones that have the gas tank integrated into the top tube

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>>2073549
UPDATE: I fixed the chain tension and now it runs like a dream without dropping the chain or being too loud pedaled or e-driven with the clutch open (but still noticeably louder than normal because the stock chain tensioning system ("idler pulley") just sucks and is a cheap nylon wheel instead of a sproket. it develops about as much power as it did on electric alone, rattles my hands crazily, makes my balls and anus ache a bit from the seat vibration, and the controls are too awkward to try running both the motor(gas) and motor(electric) at the same time, and being unfamiliar with motorbikes learning to use the clutch is not super hard but nontrivial. i'm yet to get the carb set up properly so it also stalls whenever I come to a complete stop even with the clutch open. the motor kit also didn't come with any provisions to monitor ANYTHING about the engine, so knowing my actual RPM is impossible, carbeurators elude boomers and also me, and the gas tank didn't even come with a float. drumpf made fuel expensive and I have to pre-mix it with special oil that costs way too much compared to just plugging it into the wall. also I and my apartment now reek of gasoline and exhaust fumes.

10/10 would recommend, this thing fucking rules.

Bought a spare battery since I found a place selling my model 50% off. They have 1 more left and I'm tempted to buy both but I'm worried I'll never end up using it.

>>2073959
do it and then flip it on marketplace if you never find a >USE CASE

>>2069519
The text was mediocre, but the front quick release setup did actually make my eyebrow twitch. 6/10 trolling

I am thinking of deconverting my ebike because of lockup anxiety ever since a crackhead tried to cut my lock. I'd rather ride a shitbike and have peace of mind although I would miss recreational ebiking. What would you do?

>>2074179
Crackheads will try to steal anything, just get a better lock

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>>2074179
>anon's face when he realizes crackheads steal normal bikes too

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I'm very close to pulling the trigger on Specialized Turbo Vado 4.0, there's a good deal. Any reason I shouldn't?

>>2074264
use case?

>>2074265
Primarily urban riding, commuting etc. daily drives, max tens of kms. Occassionally longer rides to nearby destinations, no more than 100 km per day

>>2074264
>Integrated battery
>Mystery meat drive unit

It's probably fine but for that much if it was me I'd just get a standard Bosch/Shimano/Yamaha mid drive

>>2074264
if at all possible take it for a 1+ hour test-ride. there's nuance to ebikes that goes beyond obvious talking-points. one thing that I prefer is having two chainrings and I would not really consider buying an ebike that didn't have a front derailleur. ymmv

>>2074267
It's mahle and you can remove the battery by removing the motor
>shimano
lmao

>>2074269
is there an advantage of a front derailleur on an ebike other than less crosschaining?

>>2074267
>>Integrated battery
valid to talk shit about but
>Mystery meat drive unit
they all come out of one of the same like three factories anyway

>>2074270
>remove the battery by removing the motor
still incredibly gay, removable batteries that are just on a tray or something and can be charged separately from the bike are just better. that way you can either carry a spare or remove it to charge it wherever you end up going to

it's what i do, i charge my shit at work by just popping the battery out.

>>2074295
mid drive units can take better advantage of gearing. a person can just force the bike into motion standing on the pedals, a motor doesnt have that luxury. it's like trying to start your car in 6th.
>>bbbbut the rear gearz
ok fine it's more like trying to start a semi truck 1st but on high range

>>2074325
>they all come out of one of the same like three factories anyway
The problem is replacement parts out of warranty, sure the Specialized motor is probably fine for the 2 years it's under warranty but what do you do when it dies and you have to source a replacement yourself? The benefit of Bosch or Shimano is they're everywhere, depending on the model you can buy them from chinks on ebay for $300-$500.

>>2074335
>The problem is replacement parts out of warranty,
>but what do you do when it dies and you have to source a replacement yourself?


>you can buy them from chinks on ebay for $300-$500.
you answered your own question and shimano uses chink oems for this stuff anyway. you are just a brand enslaved american loser

>>2074354
You can't just buy any motor and DIY it onto a Specialized bike if that's what you're suggesting. All the electronics are all proprietary and locked down. You have to be careful about which "ecosystem" you're buying into because you won't be able to mix and match parts later on.

>>2074371
you cant do that with bosch or shimano either

What is the milage ebike king? I nedd that cause there is no way to charge. Charging takes so long anyway it negates taking an ebike anywhere. So...a 250 watt mid drive with the cheapest standardized battery...

>>2074384
BECAUSE Bosch and Shimano are so common, their parts are EASIER TO FIND and therefore CHEAPER. Hope this helps!

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>>2074371
>You can't just buy any motor and DIY it onto a Specialized bike
you absolutely can with hub motors if it's possible to change the wheels out at all

with mid-drive unless your cranks are some retarded proprietary standard (which desu they probably are if it's from one of the big brands) they do make ones made to just slot through your crank hole and then your cranks onto that

the controllers are usually all the same chink oem crap that work in largely the same ways and even if not it's literally just a 3 phase output and 5 or 6 hall sensor inputs, you can MAKE it compatible

or maybe if you actually care about maintainability, you should get a normal bike and a kit instead of buying Le Spesh off a rack and getting owned by protestants. but you won't because wiring is le scawwy for amerimutts and if it doesn't all click together by USB-C you think your house will burst into flames

people have been servicing electric mopeds routinely for fifty fucking years and the first patent for one i could find is from fucking 1895

>>2074406
Are you seriously telling someone to just rip apart their 5000$ Spesh and put random last-century chinese parts inside it? Enjoy your battery fire, retard. The Vado is completely custom, you can't just replace parts in it with random shit you find on amazon. The manual SPEFICICALLY STATES you have to use Original Specialized parts.

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>>2074416
>i-it just states it okay!
Shalom.

>>2074422
A bicycle comes as one integrated unit, perfectly balanced for its price point by the designer. You can't just start ripping it apart and replacing shit. Especially not the electricals. You might hurt yourself or even cause a fire.

>>2074264
spesh sucks and is anti-consumer on top of just making slop, and mid drives suck and are usually made in anti-consumer ways on top of being worse than hub motors

>>2074385
Luna makes some enormous batteries but ebike range doesn't scale well with battery size. ebikes are not suited to long-range use-cases.

>>2074445
I don't like spesh at all but baseless shitposting isn't the way to get your point across

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>>2074442
>perfectly balanced for its price point
Plus tax, plus tip, plus intellectual property tax, plus monopoly tax. Afraid of a little competition?

>>2074385
bring a second battery

>>2074385
aliexpress two stroke gas engine

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is there something like this that doesnt cost $500?
like on aliexpress or something

>>2074584
no

>>2074478
>live in povertistan
>any bike driven by an engine is considered a moped/motorbike and requires a license+registration
>pedal-assist e-bikes don't count though
>install a two-stroke on the e-bike
>only use it to charge the battery
did we just find a new way to cuck the law e-bros

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>>2074584

>>2074594
i literally already did this and it didnt matter because at least 2/3rds of drivers are on suspended licenses anyway

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>>2074594
>it's not a moped it's a diesel-electric PAS i don't need a license i'm just travelling not driving

>>2074618
>>2074584
It is literally impossible to have gears on an (((ebike)))

>>2073322
I'm slack jawed and mesmerized by this.

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I should have gotten a picture of my masterpiece battery before the white american nazi gas chamber police try to destroy it again in a 5000 pound concentration camp oven disguised as a white van. so that I can share it here but I couldn't do it. I was too busy building defense against the whites. the white american nazi gas chamber police and the whites in general were too busy attacking me while riding my rolling stool for the future, trying to destroy my prosthetics from the concentration camps. The white woman was banning me from all the concentration camps like she thinks its a fucking joke. The white woman doctor from the white american nazi gas chamber hospital ran her 5000 pound concentration camp oven up along hitler's high way to tell me that I was delusional schizophrenic; she was trying to make me sign a piece of paper that said that there are no gas chambers and that I am just delusional. The white woman bitch turned the key on her 5000 pound concentration camp oven with wheels on it, rolled it to my house to tell me to my face that there are no gas chambers. If the court system doesn't work, I'm going hunting for their meat.

The white woman doctor is only a gas chamber operator with a stethoscope.

I had to build the reality key, a 3d printed gas mask to show that the air was poisoned so that the nazis in the washington gas chamber state stop trying to beat the shit out of me and tell me to fucking kill myself all the time and destroy my prosthetics from the concentration camps so that the whites can go on running their 5000 pound concentration camp ovens with wheels on them to slide down a fucking hill. The kids have to learn that their parents are teaching them to do the holocaust. its too 1943 up in washington gas chamber state right now.

I know we can make the battery last for 10 years assuming that the whites dont try to destroy it again so they can go on running the gas chambers on every one's grand children.

>>2074908
the 2 liter soda pop bottle heat shrink design works really really good by the way! The fuel source is not hidden and it's meant as a teaching aid. I built it perfectly to try to bypass the white librarians logic to remove prosthetics from the concentration camps but we can never get to the point where we SHOW the battery because the whites are extremely hostile to bicycles in washington gas chamber state in the first place. There is no getting close to them because the spew poison every where they go.

>>2074908
>>2074909
the goyim have gone insane

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ilove,,,my trike.,
,,uses about 15 watts mile when i crank too.,
,,,still stretching to find max range,dont want a long haul getting home powerless.,soslow.

>>2074929
Sex.

>>2074450
Stop being poor.

>>2074925
Nice photo big guy

>>2074925
the only thing better than a milf... a gilf...

>>2074449
Yeah, this is and will probably be true for some time. Battery energy density has made leaps and bounds in the past few years but it's still really underwhelming. Modern devices last so long because they use way less power than they used to and everything they do is virtual or offloaded to cloud processing/storage or something like that. It's not because batteries are so much better. You can't really get those kinds of savings with just a big fuckin' motor, though.

You see the same kinda shit in flashlights. They're so bright they will instantly kill you, but they also weigh like ten fucking pounds and only run for a minute at full blast. Even vape pens fell to it -- modern e-liquid is just thinner and burns better. The devices themselves are lower power than when the concept was first introduced in a handheld form (let alone the old 120/220 VAC "volcano" units for potheads who got techheaded instead of listening to The Wall on repeat)

>>2074385
Don't quote me on it but I think hub motors are a bit more efficient. They can be overbuilt a bunch so you have a gorillion coils in parallel instead of just a few at higher voltage/amperage, and you don't have losses from interacting with the chain/derailleur/wacky ratcheting mechanisms so they dont mangle your tootsies

>>2074925
I like my trike because I can carry a second battery in the back basket so I don't get stuck without power.

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broke the chain on my e-moped again. i am not disheartened i simply need to get around to drilling the weird plate i found at the thrift shop to form a dork disc that also will act as a shorter spacer (i am throwing/torquing chains because the drive sproket is not in line with the driven sproket clamped to the wheel)

at least i can still get to work because she's a hybrid, and not for economy. i have learned that any whole device has to have at least three entire redundant systems things completely fail before inoperability to be safe -- one you can be lazy on maintenance for, one you actually keep maintained, and one that doesn't need maintenance at all because critical failures can be solved with a hammer and pliers

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>try to make some side money fixing bikes
>bro gives me his e-bike claiming he lost the key to the "ignition"
>can't fix it because I can't gain access without at least chiseling/drilling away rivets, will have to probably cut and re-terminate or splice wires, also the rest of the bike has small stuff i want to tune up but will have to demolish any semblance of Decorum and Factory Professionally Installed Parts to do so

how do i tell the client that either i cause irrecoverable damage and involve him in my World of Jank with the battery ending up zap-strapped on and his lines all terminated with electrical connectors for anti-fraying or he takes his stupid bike back before I make it way stupider

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