yea you fucked up.

Better hand it over to me

>>2068968
>10000aud
do you even ride a normal bike?

>>2068970
No

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>>2068968
What is there to even talk about? You bought a mobility scooter anon. These aren't like motorcycles where you want to show them off, and they're not like regular bikes that have any kind of social aspect to them where you can talk about different components or frames or aeromaxxing.

>>2068971
kek
do you know how to fix a normal bike at least? thats a big one if you are seriously concened about this

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>>2068968
>bought a bike that needs electric energy in preparation for rising energy prices
Yes you fucked up
All those people in impoverished African countries relying on Buffalo Bicycles for their livelihood are more prepared for a fuel apocalypse than you are with your Chinese toy. Yes you did fuck up

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where would you get batteries if you wanted to build your own e-bike?
like with a name brand motor unit not a chinese kit

>>2068978
those companies make it so you cant use 3rd party batteries

>>2068978
You could in theory build your own battery, order battery cells online, wire them together, buy a programmable battery controller and program it yourself, 3D print a housing for all the cells, and wire up an interface for all the cells so you can charge them or wire them to whatever drivetrain you're using. I have a feeling that you won't though because that's an insane amount of time and effort with very little to gain from it.

>>2068978
>Google replacement battery for [your motor]
>hundreds of results

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>>2068978
Stackem in the tubes.
;)

an ebike specific thread would be cool since it adds a layer of /diy/ to have some electrics/electronics work along the usual bike wrenching, but /n/ is full of retards who don't wrench let alone solder

last night i finally got around to swapping out my stock handlebars but also finally wiring up my brake cutoffs. nothing complex but involved some splicing. next step is troubleshooting a janky shitty other controller i have that is slightly higher amperage but more importantly came with a cute little screen

>>2068978
you can get packs off of amazon that come with a charging and management board and digikey will sell you the individual cells for like 2$ each
>brand name motor
like what, what are you looking at that isn't chinked as fuck

>>2068968
>fuel apocalypse
so how're you going to generate enough electricity to charge that thing?
in a genuine fuel shortage, you'll go for a normal bike over an ebike every time. you're only using a little bit more food energy than you use ordinarily.

>DIDNT U KNO IRAN INCREASED THE PRICE ??? TRUMP CANT FIX IT !!! EBIKE IS LE BAD BECAUSE (((energy costs)))

i looked it up and ausfailia mostly powers itself with coal and has a national oversight board for electricity distribution. oil going up makes EVERYTHING expensive but power generation has a few steps between "sheikh mad" and "rolling blackouts"

>>2069002
the high end yamaha/brose motors are made in japan/germany

>>2069028
They operate on the same principles and the only meaningful difference among motors is spacing of sensors and number of pins to read them.

>>2069028
this full this if you dont buy a Japanese motor you are not a real E-Cyclist.

>ebike ""riders""
This is a fucking post... to every FAT FUCK on the road riding a fucking ""E-Bike"".

Now, I'm tired of these fat FUCKS popping up in all of my fucking trails when I'm looking for a FUCKING workout! I don't give a FUCK about the aftermath of ANY of you Tech fans that feel sorry for these greasy fucks!

You fat fucking disgusting ass-smelling
BLAWB,
Cheese-drinking,
Crisco-bathing,
Lard-gargling,
Calorie-thieving,
Cabbage-Patch Face having,
Dr. Robotnik looking,
WingStop eating,
McDonalds gorging,
T-Rex arm having,
Non-vegetable eating,
Cook with a George Foreman grill just to drink out the drip tray,
Wide load,
Hungry-Hungry Hippo,
PLANET,
Pretending to have a fucking thyroid problem,
Whale slash Free Willy,
Part bus,
Yokozuna,
Flubber,
Kirby,
Salad dodger,
Chair crusher,
Butter ball,
Go to subway but put everything on it,
Michelin Man,
Happy because Hostess is back in business MOTHERFUCKERS


I know there's gonna be a lot of people out there calling me a luddite, well guess what?
I'M NOT!!
I just don't feel sorry for fat fucking people, especially fat fucks who sit there all day, gorge and eat, and get to get around for absolutely nothing! While a bunch of sorry fucks like yourself play into it!


You don't like what the fuck I'm saying? Then FUCK YOU!

>>2068968
My battery requires 8 hours of charging, where do I even find the time to charge it? I don't want to charge it while I sleep.

>>2069328
check if there is a different charger for your bike. They usually ship them with the cheapest and slowest one

>>2069335
>cheapest and slowest one
is this dangerous?

>>2069340
>cheapest
maybe
>slowest
measurably and objectively no, trickle charging is good for all sorts of batteries currently in wide service. as long as the voltage is correct (a touch higher than the discharge voltage) then low amperage is pretty much guaranteed to not cause any safety issues, though it may hurt the service life of the battery in a non-catastrophic way (and is guaranteed to destroy it in the lamest way possible if it's too low). if the battery has a management system (which even the cheapest CHINKED goods come with now, turns out burning down people's houses is bad for business) it's even safer though might make charging even slower.

>>2069328
mine takes about 3 but it's a 36v ~10Ah battery, using a 42v 2a charger
> I don't want to charge it while I sleep.
why not?

Cyclists™ are jealous of ebike chads not for speed or laziness but because Cyclists™ insist that they're real wrenchers but can't even replace their own brakes

meanwhile ebike kit chads are becoming junior mechatronics engineers just to make their shit roll at all

>>2069357
You're literally riding a mobility scooter

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hey guys check out my new e-bike, it has quality electric motors and a range of about 30 miles. It takes awhile to charge but I can just do it while I'm sleeping for 12 hours a day, see guys I'm a cyclist just like you!

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>>2069366
crazy how one of those is more socially acceptable to ride than picrel

>>2069369
That's not an e-bike to be fair, that's an electric motorcycle, which have completely different performance specs and licensing requirements. E-bikes are chinese toys, electric motorcycles are actual vehicles, but they're out of the scope of this thread and board.

>>2069375
Incorrect. The Emmo Zone II Max is sold and licensed as a Class 2 (Throttle Controlled Pedal Assist) Electric Bicycle. The pedals just fold up into the frame because laws are stupid and very easy to circumvent.

They're also a lot weaker than you think, having performance comparable to 50-100cc scooters, as they pretty much always have even since the sit down car battery powered brushed DC motor scooter days.

>>2069376
Oh, then in that case I can completely understand why they aren't socially acceptable to ride. What an absolutely retarded tryhard design for an e-bike. Mobility Scooter fags have gone completely insane.

>>2069377
I mean realistically, you can't (or at least shouldn't) take it on the highway, same as a Vespa is a "real" gas engine scooter but also struggles to do 70kmh but does 40-50 comfortably, making it ideal for urban commuting.

There are slower gas bikes out there than modern electric "motorcycles" that no one bats an eye at, but replace the 33cc two-stroke with a 3-phase motor and everyone freaks out.

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>>2069046

Just bought one of those 2 stroke kits for my bike. gonna blast black smoke in the face of every dentist

>>2069012
>mostly powers itself with coal
Approx 50% of generation is coal, which yes we do have fuck tons of and yes it is reasonably cheap. The problem though is that electricity prices are set based on the highest source cost, which means that prices get horribly distorted by the price of natural gas. Nationally gas is only something like 7% of generation but it makes everything more expensive because of the Federal government's pants-on-head retarded policy of selling off all the rights to our domestic gas and not mandating a large reserve be set aside for the domestic market, resulting in Japanese and Chinese gas companies extracting our gas, selling it cheaply in their own domestic markets, while selling it back to us at twice the price it should be otherwise and leaving us with no insulation from global supply shocks.

This is how you end up with a situation like in South Australia where 70% of electricity is produced by renewables and cause a glut in supply during the day to the point that starting in July electricity will be made free between 11am and 2pm yet the price of electricity is sky high due to the remaining 30% being provided by the baseload gas plant at Torrens Island, which usually kicks in as the sun goes down.

>>2069509
political skill issue for not having a reserve or domestic market sales first

my city is just chaos with e-bikes, pedestrians, scooters, runners, cyclists, and cars. you'll be walking along and some mad max looking bike will pass you at 30mph in the bike lane. honestly kinda funny makes everyone mad.

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>>2068968
>doesn't need to be charged
>weighs like 20 lbs on average
>exceeds the speed of an ebike
what did it mean by this
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>34
>have pretty much never driven a car (took a few lessons to get my license at 26 and never drove again)
>american, which makes this even more pathetic
>have owned a cannondale road bike for around 15 years
>have put around 3k miles a year on it
>its now nearly 20 years old and I think sadly it might be getting to be time to think about replacing it
>feel like with all the use, I should get an e-bike or at least pedal assist, but I am concerned about the cost and additional maintenance upkeep it will take

any thougts here?

>>2069521
>>2069519
just admit that you're too stupid for electronics

>>2069521
ebikes make a lot more sense when you treat them as bad mopeds in a world where a moped can still be a half-decent bike

however you are an american incapable of thinking for yourself so just go figure out what NJB says about it i guess

>>2069521
I'd want to exercise my body as much as possible going into middle and then old age.
do you really want to backslide?

Why do americans throw tantrums whenever beyond-15-minute-city transit is available to someone who doesn't have to give their entire life over to the Government?

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>>2069519

>>2069568
Dont know that they do, but they should as its rescource parasitism.

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>framemoggs you

>>2069831
I like my electric trike because of the comfort and cargo capacity but it sucks on narrow sidewalks.

Hey bros I just bought an aventon level 3 did I fuck up? panic bought because of gas prices. I'm honestly just fucking sick of paying out the nose for gas I should have ordered it a long time ago

>>2069852
The best point of a trike is that in can ride slowly. I just drive slow over rough terrain or narrow paths.

considering just getting a class 1 instead of a faggier motorcycle/trike that people drive on sidewalks
getting kind of annoyed by how expensive they seem to be though

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oldbatt,,,lasted 12 years,cost 700$ made in Texas,,newbatt cost $150,,,chinkstuff.,
,,,noexplosion,,Yet.

>>2069887
KILL YOUSELF YOU FICING LAZY NIGGER YOU DONT BIKE YOU NEVER BIKED

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>>2069885
>driver's licenses are basically impossible to get without grandfathering
>unless you're a boomer or have access to a boomer's car you literally cannot legally challenge a road test

>a practical and cheap form of transportation that doesn't need licensing gets popular

HOW COULD WE HAVE EVER PREDICTED THIS, IT MUST BE THE CHINKS TRYING TO DESTROY AMERICA WITH COMMUNIST (((fifteen minute))) CITIES

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Any reason not to be running a wide seat on an ebike other than "muh range"?

>>2069926
As an ebike owner I tend to not want to ride with any seat and enjoy seat tubes going straight into my asshole. #justebikethings

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>>2069927
Based fellow IT e-biker.

>>2068977
Solar.

>>2069521
Wheel kit. Dont ever replace a bike. Only endorses disposable culture. Even if its down to just the frame, all parts should be replacable. We you are gassed (biked too far) time constrained, inclement weather (sweating/freezing), the motor replaces you/pulls its own weight same no different than not having it.

>>2069525
Society is about specialization. He shouldn't have to know. Its a rabbit hole wank.

>>2069559
No reason you cant go hard as you want, not have to pace yourself/guess about having the energy to go back, make the world flat (eliminate hills), have a hardier built bike, CARRY SHIT WITH NO INPINGEMENT, with a pedal assist.

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ebikes do not belong on /n/

go back to /o/ and /toy/ you retarded niggers

picrel this is literally what you are doing and what you are like

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>>2069973
>not have to pace yourself/guess about having the energy to go back
Uh oh! Looks like your battery ran flat and now you can't get anywhere anymore because you're a retarded fat jeet who can't pedal his own bike and needs a "wheel kit"!

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>>2069998
That's why you pack a 2nd battery silly.

>>2069525
They're called Electricals

>>2070022
>5 electric holes
Electricity just needs to flow in 1 direction. You only need 2 wires. Are ebike owners stupid?

>>2070170
lmao

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Thoughts on the KTM Freeride E?

>>2069987
>go back to /toy/ you retarded niggers
oh the irony

>>2070205
You're literally too poor for a real bike.

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>>2070257
>real bike.
Huh?

>>2070260
That is not a real bicycle it is not even a Dutch Bike.

>>2070205
only not a nigger faggot thirdie bike because it is clearly a childs toy for parents who arent nons

>>2070263
Try turning your monitor on.

>>2070269
wtf its beautiful

>>2069046
Dale probably owns a fat tire ebike desu

>>2069926
above a certain width dependent on you're ass, it becomes uncomfortable to pedal when you need to. and at a certain point it just looks stupid and you may as well put a motorcycle saddle on it

>>2070309
I'm sorry you have a tiny, tight, small, twink ass.

>>2070318
why would you be sorry for that?

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I am here waiting for my ebike to arrive from china anyone else has it in here?

>>2070333
>>2070205
Sirs, ebikes are 1hp.
Mtbers and euros are melting about about 1.5hp dji emtb marketing that will ruin the regulatory environment.

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>>2070337
This ebike has 80hp

Are you retarded?

>>2070337
I am euro aswell and i don't really give a shit about any regulations, police doesn't give a shit if you are not being annoying

>>2070205
I thought about buying an older one they seem pretty simple and robust for an electric vehicle the range is laughable tho

>>2070339
>biggest thing of the advertising copy is LE IRON MAN PROPRIETARY APP PHONE PAIRING

it's probably garbage otherwise. Even Emmo and Evoque just go "It goes 80 and has carplay nigga what more do you want"

>>2070339
Ebike? That is an offroad electric scooter with DOT tires, or an Emoto.

>>2069831
This is an ebike (even though it's an etrike).
>>2069369
>>2070205
>>2070333
>>2070339
These are scooters.
>>2070260
This is a real bike. Happy to help explain this to you new friends :^)

>>2070357
>stark varg
>it's probably garbage otherwise
>Even Emmo and Evoque

Be honest, how many times a day do people call you retarded?

The most important feature to a Motorcycle is how easily I can pair my phone to it.

Speed restrictions bother me, phone apps for my bike bother me. I know I can bypass this by DIYing my bike but it seems like cope. We ebikers are the most oppressed minority in the history of the world. It's literally 1984

>>2069519
Not even an ebikefag but thats an ugly old ass bike. Looks like something an 80 year old man would have ridden in his 20s.

>>2070155
need a third pin for safety ground and two more for the battery controller to talk to the bike controller

>>2068968
Do ebikers like escooterists or normal cyclists more? I'm trying to understand all the weird alliances that exist, for example carbrains and pedestrifucks seem to suddenly like each other as soon as bike or micromobility vehicles enter the discussion

>>2070542
Thinking like this is why you're here

>>2070542
Alone you bend.

Together you stand.

Faggots.

I live in a well-industrialised country, yet the only people I see riding e-bikes are 40-year-old women and food deliverymen. Just today during a short walk I saw no less than five separate 60+year-olds cranking uphill on old 3-speeds. Any oldfags wanna chime in on whether e-bikes actually benefit the elderly?

>>2070575
In countries where motorists look out for people on 2 wheels they are useful for the elderly. In the US, the "muh elderly" argument is just an excuse by fat zoomers who want to keep burning down apartment buildings and ramming into old people on shared paths. They don't actually care about or like the elderly, in fact they want the elderly dead so they can steal their homes

>>2069831
I went to a place that rents ebike and they had an etrike for rent. Holy smokes it's so comfy and easy to ride. I would love to own one but it just takes up so much space. Also it seems like it would be a pain to lock up.

just get a used one for $1800 E-MTB front-suspended, bosch motor gen 4 85nm and Deore group, thank me later

>>2070663
Where are all these used electric mountain bikes hiding?

>>2070680
Maybe if you weren't a massively retarded nigger you would be able to find one. It's surely not that markets are different in different areas, even neighborhood to neighborhood, you are simply a piece of human filth with politics different to mine and that's why you can't find a particular durable good to buy second-hand at a cheap price.

>>2070680
>>2070683
You can always tell when there's someone new on a slow board like /n/ because all of a sudden there's a noticeable pattern of inordinately belligerent posts, as is the norm on the faster boards.

They usually settle down or leave eventually but wew, someone pissed in anon's corn flakes this morning. And yesterday morning and the day before judging by the posts I've seen in the last few days.

>>2070542
normal cyclists by a mile. e(kick)scooters are just trash. their owners tend to just be normal dudes trying to get around a little faster than the bus and i have nothing against them but rideshare scooters are straight up litter and if you're going to pay like 1800 bucks for a kick scooter with a motor and battery on it why did you not just get a bike that can actually survive a curb and is comfy to sit on

and dont even get me started on those absolute PSYCHOS who get a scooter then get a bolt-on seat for it. literally just get an actual scooter/e-bike. even just looking at basic amazon chink slop

https://www.amazon.ca/ZSNAKE-Electric-Tubeless-Off-Road-Detachable/dp/B0CC5F2C1B
>1800$ and they couldnt even be arsed to bolt on the seat for the promo shot, solid wheels, will burst into treats if you aren't a child riding it and hit a twig
https://www.amazon.ca/iScooter-650W-Scooter-Electric-Charger-Standard/dp/B0DP4LJGCB
>900$ and mad niggerish but at least looks kinda comfy and will only burst into treats after your second pothole
literally what is the use case for those crappy e-scooters except for being "micromobility" rideshare street cruft?

>>2070438
>I know I can bypass this by DIYing my bike but it seems like cope
it's not, it's both cheaper and more fun and results in a more unique-looking vehicle (and usually a better one, purpose-built ebikes usually use gutter trash for the actual bike parts on frames recycled from literal children's "baja" minibikes)

>>2070333
i keep seeing these on marketplace sitting for months at a time so they're probably shit if so many people are buying them and then immediately trying to flip it and still somehow not getting buyers

>>2070680
In the back room of shops in That London.
That's where stolen electric mountain bikes live ,silly.

>>2070438
Speed restrictions exist because these are literally made for children. If you want to go faster you'd have to get a license for a real Electric Motorcycle instead of this e-slop. I hope you get door'd going 40 mph in a bike lane and snap your jaw off.

>>2070819
I'm pretty sure they exist more for market penetration among the larger manufacturers, and the smaller ones only comply because of heat management. I have a shitty kit that explicitly doesn't care and has no limiter, and it doesn't let me break 30 because it simply cannot supply that much power. No different from old two-strokes being "for kids" because they physically can't break 40.

>>2070771
Scooters are more fun and way more bang for buck in performance. Find me an ebike for $900 than can do 65km/h

>>2070826
>way more bang for buck in performance.
granted the power:weight is better on a kick scooter but the quality of the ride is way worse and because of the nonexistent or actively bad suspension you cannot hit that speed safely. raw power isnt everything and if it were you'd get a proper motorcycle that can hit it and sustain it properly without exploding after running over a single marmotte

>more fun
actually fair and the main reason i only consider rideshare ones to be litter but other e-kick-scooter riders to be legit but misguided at worst

>>2070823
It's legal requirements. Having them go any faster would require them to be classified as Electric Motorcycles instead of E-bikes. Ones that are modified to go faster aren't strictly legal but it's not like cops have the time to pull over Timmy's on their Chinese e-bikes that have faulty governors. Things like heat management are only an issue because manufacturers never designed these bikes to go faster than 25mph, because they aren't electric motorcycles, because these are literally made for children. I don't see a single grown adult in my town riding an e-bike unless it's one of those rental ones