>>1501688
Burn in hell you genocidal parasite.

>>1501688
this was the plan all along, get all of the bases outside the iron dome destroyed so they had no choice but to move them under the iron dome, and effectively abandon everyone who is not Israel

Jewish domination over the goyim for the next 1000 years guaranteed

According to the Zionists
>Israel and the US will still be allies after the war
>Israel and the US will still exist after the war
>the US will withdraw its military from the Gulf and Iraq
>Israel are a valuable ally to the US
>it will be better strategy for the US to focus only on defending Israel

>>1501690
Iron dome is a myth

>>1501691
>>1501688
Bibi just said yesterday that Israeli blood won't be spilled in a ground war in Iran. So yeah, no Israeli troops will be joining American ones in the event of an invasion of Iran. They will provide us bases to launch the invasion, of course.

>>1501692
Iron dome is real and we have video of it in operation.
It's just not designed to sustain 10K missiles a day. It was made to stop maybe a dozen or so tops from Hezbollah. It's almost dry on ammo already.

Thus Bibi's plan to relocate all the US bases under it so Uncle Sam has no choice but to keep it stocked up forever. 4K IQ move by bibi, 4 IQ move by Turnip.

>>1501691
>>Israel and the US will still be allies after the war
Only because we have no choice. People thought the Epstein files would be a clean sweep of most of the Zionists from government, but instead it just emboldened them: Look at those complacent goyim still not convicting or impeaching ANYONE who is named in the files, why did they bother blackmailing people to begin with? America is just greater israel anyway and most politicians do not care as long as they get their underaged pussy.

>>1501694
Unsubstantiated report from Channel 12, but it wouldn't surprise me if it turned out to be true. It's in character for them and Netanyahu seems to love turning people into Jew haters.

>>1501699
Again I think he's become comfortable with shitting on the goyim only because he's been made aware of how complacent they are in the crimes of their government. In a way, I think the Epstein files turned out to be a blessing for him in terms of finding how far he can push the limit of goyim hatred while still keeping America at heel.

>>1501697
Just stop voting for zionists bro

>>1501696
Right, so they just need to get Iran to stop bombing them and don’t piss off anyone else with a somewhat functional missile program and they’ll be sweet

>>1501706
yeah
good luck with that

Can't say what my source is for security reasons, but Trump is going to send the marines to try to secure all of Iran's enriched uranium and transport it out of Iran.

>>1501709
Sounds like it has a small margin of success

>>1501696
>It's almost dry on ammo already.

Why would it be dry on ammo?

>>1501696
> It's dry on ammo
So it doesn't fucking work then. When we deployed CRAM to Afghanistan 99% of the logistics for it was keeping it loaded because the biggest threat to Marine lives at that time was being blown up while they were sleeping. It took about a hundred men per unit to keep it loaded planes trains automobiles delivering ammo. It fucking worked.

>>1501723
To be fair, this is just a natural issue. There's only so much ammo you can physically have for a defense system at one time.

>>1501688
Ahahaha, what the fuck. This is Israel providing cover for the trump administration. Iran is going to demand that Americans move military bases out of the middle east to open the straight, something they've wanted for a long time. Trump is going to sell it as a win.
>We're relocating the bases to a better strategic position and Israel is going to subsidize it.
And his stupid fucking supporters are going to think it's genius. Or at least pretend to when their favorite Russian funded influencer tells them how to think.

>>1501728
Divorcing ourselves from being the world's police used to be a liberal idea.
All it takes is losing a couple elections and the piggerals lose their fucking minds.
Interesting.

>>1501732
you really are esl huh

guesses on the names of first official israeli-us bases? Camp Shabbos Goyim?

>>1501734
Que?

>>1501728
Iran don’t have to demand that, the Americans are already abandoning those bases because they’ve been getting bombed to shit.
The GCC countries might demand the Americans leave so their infrastructure stops getting bombed

>>1501732
You're right, but it was always Russian funded. Before it was Noam Chomsky and Greenpeace, now it's MAGA.
Common denominator is being retarded.

>>1501750
>American middle class is now permanently renting, buying food on credit due to inflation via military expenditures and other retarded bullshit
>wanting to disengage from this fucked up deal means you're a Russian
You cannot imagine my shock at discovering most anti-MAGA shitposters on facebook originate from Europe.

>>1501732
>Divorcing ourselves from being the world's police used to be a liberal idea.
Literally no one on either side of the isle wanted this. BOTH parties ran on the idea of no more middle east wars. Trump was the one who said Kamala would get us into the exact conflict he jumped into.

>>1501755
stop trying to feed us shit shill anon

>>1501757
>what is the inflation caused by the iraq and afghan wars
Okay faggot, now I know for a fact you're not American.

>>1501732
Ziggerals & Zonservatives zive Zionist Zsrael zillions of zax $.


Why Are all these right-wing maga Zionist subsidized influencers homosexuals?

Do you identify with them, poster?

>>1501755
It's a false dichotomy. America just does a terrible job of allocating money and taxing the rich due to corruption.

In any case, sometimes, you gotta spend money to save money. You don't want Russia invading its neighbors because that destabilizes the region which causes a ripple effect which eventually effects us. Ukraine in particular is one of the major breadbaskets of the world, along with having a robust mining and tech sector, so the country getting depopulated and resettled by Russians upsets the markets and drives up the price of goods.

One of the reasons that inflation got so bad globally was because of the one-two punch of Covid and the Russo-Ukrainian War. Ukraine getting shanked set off a chain of dominoes that eventually resulted in the prices of gas and groceries like eggs going up for Americans and harming trade/jobs dependent upon the EU. Raw materials like titanium, palladium, and neon (important in advance tech) are also way up as Ukraine was a major exporter of these. I work in a lab that used to order high quality metamaterial reagents Ukraine. Ukraine used to make the gold standard for this shit up until the Russians bombed their labs. Now we're stuck ordering much lower quality reagents from other countries like China.

For comparison, nobody gives a fuck what happens in African countries since the impacts of war tends to be localized. Also, most of the shit we gave to Ukraine was old stuff we wanted to mothball anyway (ironically biting us in the ass now with Iran).

You could argue that we shouldn't be so reliant on trade, that we should be satisfied with less, that everything we have should either be made at home or taken by force through conquest, and you might have a point, but that's not the world we live in at the moment. Trade relations are still very important. We can't mine/produce/service everything and anything. We would need decades to retool our economics to be able to do so, and we'd have to make many compromises.

>>1501761
TLDR

We should have supported the Russians if we wanted to end the war quickly and maximize our interests. Who cares who controls the country so long as they continue trading with us. Putin is based so I think he could work something out with Trump.

>>1501762
>we
LOL

>>1501762
>Putin is the defender of the white Christian race
>allies with China, Iran, Turkey, and India to destabalize the West
>invades and ethnically cleanses his European neighbors
>population in decline, but still sends his young men into the meat grinder
>everyone in Russia is miserable
>/pol/tards think he's the savior of the white race because of shirtless bear riding memes and Tucker Carlson

>>1501699
>Netanyahu seems to love turning people into Jew haters.
I don't think that he cares about that all. Israel doesn't want to participate in a ground invasion simply because they don't have to. They have an unlimited number of Americans who will gladly sign up and die for them, so there is no need for them whatsoever to fight in their own war.

>>1501771
Lotta Jews have been fleeing Israel due to the cultural/economical/social/security issues from Netanyahu's policies. In fact, more Jews are emigrating than immigrating. Netanyahu thinks that if he can stir up antisemitism globally, then it encourages Jews to stay put or return. Tying Israel intrinsically to all Jews also benefits Israel in many other ways, often to the detriment of the Jewish diaspora.

>>1501761
Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, and now Iran are proving that America can’t take whatever they want by force.
I don’t know what you meant by false dichotomy

>>1501755
>>1501761
TLDR i voted for hitler and he invaded russia during the economic winter wompwomp

>>1501772
It’s not new the Zionists have always been promoting antisemitism in order to attract migrants to the safe haven.
It’s not really on thread topic though

>>1501712
>Why would it be dry on ammo?
Because it was even before the war started
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13961393/israel-iron-dome-hezbollah-iran-missile-strike-tehran-air-defence.html
It requires thousands of missiles to keep operational, because not every missile is an interception. On average, 2-3 missiles intercept one.

>>1501723
>So it doesn't fucking work then
This is Bibi's logic: It doesn't fucking work because because The Goylet States won't give him infinite missiles to keep it stockpiled so he can mercilessly bomb his neighbors with impunity.

If Bibi had instead, yknow, not bombed his neighbors then the flow of missiles heading the other direction would be manageable enough to keep it stocked.

You're right in that CRAMs have this too but there isn't just one American base in the middle east, there's only one Israel and thus it's the biggest target.

>>1501778
Iron dome isn't used on the kind of munitions Iran is tossing at the heebs though.

>>1501775
>I don’t know what you meant by false dichotomy
It means that going isolationist wouldn't fix private equity and billionaires buying up everything and renting it back at us at exorbitant rates, or lobbying politicians to give them more tax break and tax money.

>>1501779
Yeah the Iron Dome ammo is WAY MORE EXPENSIVE.
https://norskluftvern.com/2025/07/19/iron-dome-missile-defense-system-cost-analysis-and-performance-comparison/
>Iron Dome interceptors cost $40,000-50,000 each for standard production, with operational costs reaching $100,000-150,000 per successful interception when including radar power, personnel, and fuel consumption. Emergency production during surge periods can increase costs to $60,000 per missile, while expedited delivery during conflicts has reached $150,000 per interceptor.

>C-RAM Phalanx systems cost $8,100 per engagement, firing 300 rounds at $27 each during typical rocket and mortar attacks. While significantly cheaper per engagement, C-RAM’s 70% success rate and 2-kilometer range limit its effectiveness to point defense applications. The system’s $8-18 million unit cost appears attractive until considering its limited coverage area.

$150K per interception isn't a big deal when it's the 30 or so odd missiles a year but they're now getting 30 a week and that's starting to be a problem even for our systems. If the question becomes "Why not use C-RAM then?" it becomes a matter of 70% interception rate vs 90%, 70% isn't the end of the world for a military base where most things are hardened, but not when it's a civilian center that requires stable operation to thrive.

>>1501781
tbh and this could be a personal opinion: The two are inevitably linked. National emergencies are situations where these actors absorb government money, who will pay anything to make problems go away, and then expand into parallel markets and use the infinite government wealth to destroy the market and gouge customers.
This is how we got Haliburton, Palantir, Blackrock, Vanguard, this is why AI companies are getting massive investments, this is why all of these companies pivoted into land ownership, this is why many of their leaders like Thiel started in a MIC role and pivoted to technology. Most of these entities aren't even a creation of tax breaks, don't get me wrong those contribute to it, but what contributes more is the fact the American Government can simply crush any market it pleases and this is an Oligarchy through proxy.

The only reason they haven't crushed food and given us North Korea style inflation on that is because they haven't learned how to power drones and missiles with it. But I'm sure they're working on it through Ethanol production.

>>1501781
>>1501785
Yeah ok but wtf that has to do with the thread topic. I’m here to talk about US bases in Israel

>>1501786
>Yeah ok but wtf that has to do with the thread topic.
If the US has to move all its bases to Israel because anything with an American Flag takes a missile to it any place in the middle east, this is just another faucet of endless money that MIC is going to use to crush whatever is left of the smoldering remains of our economy.

>>1501781
>It means that going isolationist wouldn't fix private equity and billionaires buying up everything and renting it back at us at exorbitant rates
NTA but yeah it kinda would.
Housing prices are fucked because international billionaires from Qatar, Jordan etc. use US realestate as a way to safely launder money and store wealth offshores.
What's weird about this fact is that leftists would unironically prefer international billionaires to keep buying US land if that means continuing having open borders.

>>1501792
it's always funny when you pause your incessant fellatio of billionaires for a moment to blame leftists

>>1501782
>150k
That's a fucking pittance compared to other systems.


I don't think you get my point though.
Iron dome isn't used for shooting down ballistic missiles that Iran is launching because it isn't designed for it.
It was made to defend against mass attacks of unguided rockets or artillery shells.

>>1501791
It depends on how important it is for the US to defend Israel in comparison to other things that the US government is responsible for

>>1501796
>incessant
What part of "I don't want foreign billionaires jacking up the housing market" don't you understand, spickun?

>>1501803
if you did you'd support legislation that fixes it instead of sucking billionaire dick like the average republican

>>1501804
I LITERALLY WANT THAT, YOU STUPID FUCKING FAGGOT
HOLY SHIT JUST END IT

>>1501805
no you don't, you want an army of braindead faggots to kill us citizens. get anger therapy nerd

>>1501805
>LITERALLY WANT THA
Who did you vote for again?

>>1501809
Trump's decreased the cost of housing more than any democratic president in the last 20 years

>>1501810
LOL

>>1501799
Our rich tend to be more religious/evangelical on average due to prosperity gospel/Christian capitalism. Evangelicals want the end times to happen. Israel is their vehicle to ensure that happens.

>>1501810
xD

>>1501810
This is what cultists unironically believe.

>>1501811
>>1501825
>>1501828
What Democratic president lowered the price of housing in the last 20 years?
Do you mean the price of housing falling in 2009 because of the mortgage crisis? Or do you have something else in mind?

>>1501839
Pointing at prices moving and yelling ‘Donald Trump did that’ isn’t an argument, it’s not understanding how housing works. Prices fall when demand collapses or something breaks; is that what you’re claiming he did?

And if presidents control housing prices, then Trump also owns the initial 2020 surge when rates were near zero, right?

As for his housing policy, what measurable impact has it actually had on prices yet?”

>>1501851
Don't forget Trump literally said he liked prices being higher lmao

>>1501705
b-but we couldn't vote for a brown woman anon! We had to vote for Zion Don! He *promised* He'd fix everything!

>>1501755
>permanently renting
just shy of 70% of americans own their own home anon. You're talking about the working poor which are not the middle class.
The working poor just finally caught a break during Covid and are starting to realize how badly Trump's second turn has fucked them over royally

>>1501854
>70% of americans own their own home
Misleading. 40.3% of U.S. owner-occupied homes are owned "free and clear" without a mortgage, often driven by older demographics and high-cost living areas. The remaining ~60% of owners are paying mortgages to financial institutions, with a significant portion of older adults still carrying debt into retirement.

>>1501853
She’s a Zionist too

I love this war because it has pissed off so many people. Trump has trolled the world. Just like Hitler, he has completed the /pol/phecy. Once the ground attack starts and Iranian dronefeeds start getting leaked then the leftist tears will really turn into a river stream.

>>1501905
are you trying to convince us or yourself

>>1501905
>Gas is over $4 again and Iran is literally raking in profit for it
>But it was some cool trolling am I right?

>>1501906
I think it's the endpoint of their copetrain. Right now, most of them are still arguing that this is Biden's fault or this is temporary. The butthurt leftists is the last fallback they have. Actions that should piss off everyone, like crashing the economy on a war with long odds and little gain even had things gone well, become reframed as a partisan and owning the libs.

>>1501912
They'd be happy to be used as a condom to fuck the rest of us.

>Israel said set
Dumbass ESL jeets

>>1501691
The US and Israel are not allies and they do not have any formal or legal alliance

>>1501930
If Trump says they’re allies they’re allies. Do you even MAGA bro?