Hoping to expunge their records altogether, the members of the two groups challenged their convictions in the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia, and were facing a fast-approaching deadline to file court papers presenting arguments about why the government had overreached in charging them with crimes like seditious conspiracy.

By asking the appeals court to toss out their guilty verdicts, the Justice Department avoided the awkward situation of having to defend the convictions. Such a move would likely have required administration officials to assert that the far-right groups were acting on behalf of Mr. Trump on Jan. 6.

At the end of the Proud Boys’ seditious conspiracy trial, prosecutors argued that members of the group were acting as “Donald Trump’s army” on Jan. 6, using violent force in a plot to keep Mr. Trump in office after he lost the 2020 election.

In similar fashion, prosecutors argued that Mr. Rhodes and his subordinates attacked the Capitol that day “to stop the lawful transfer of power” from Mr. Trump to his successor, Joseph R. Biden Jr.

The Proud Boys and Oath Keepers defendants, bolstered by their supporters, have long complained that they alone, among the hundreds of rioters charged in connection with Jan. 6, did not receive Mr. Trump’s full mercy. The president has never explained his decision to free them from prison but not issue them pardons, though it has often been surmised that the political costs of granting total clemency to far-right extremists found guilty of sedition were simply too steep to bear.

Nicholas Smith, a lawyer for Ethan Nordean, one of the convicted Proud Boys, hailed the decision by prosecutors to ask for the dismissal of the convictions.

“We’re grateful to the D.O.J. for correctly assessing that seditious conspiracy was misused in this case,” Mr. Smith said. “Hundreds of years of precedent distinguish between riots and crimes that are akin to treason.”

>>1506337
It’s not treason! It’s just a riot to overturn a fair election!

>>1506341
One man’s riot is another man’s coup

>>1506349
>I didn’t steal the bread, I merely placed my hand upon it and gripped it with my fingers, then left without giving any money

>>1506337
What attack? Do they mean the walk through?

>>1506373
shitty bait

>>1506349
They're trying to not even call it a riot now too.
At the very least, if we manage to survive the trump regime and get judicial reform, they can all be tried for treason next go around.
Don't think there's a statue of limitation on betraying the country by staging a coup.

>>1506379
>coup
It was mostly peaceful though.

>>1506387
Ashley Babbit

>>1506389
It was a joke anon, relax.

>>1506390
>I was merely pretending
Just like trump posting he was the anti-christ?

>>1506395
Wow you really are cooked huh.
Have fun in the thread anon.

>>1506387
I still remember the peaceful mob peacefully beating a police officer to death because he wouldn't let them into the captial

>>1506398
Jokes are supposed to be funny anon.

>>1506341
Just like it wasn't treason, it was just a riot to kill the president on May 30th 2020.

>>1506427
Never happened

>>1506427
Odd that you would have a memory of somethg that didn't happen. Although perhaps it isn't too weird to remember fiction that you've heard on television.

>>1506337
good good, leftists are going to seethe and snyways so I hope this makes them suffer.
Given antifa is allowed to act like actual terrorists its very hypocritical to charge other people for copying them.
inb4 muh antifa is just a ideology nonsense.

>>1506427
mentally ill leftist inventing memories, so why are you eligible to vote when you're clearly too deranged to even properly recall events properly. They should really start taking away voting rights from the criminally insane leftists

>>1506429
migger what?

>>1506448
It's hilarious how you talking about inventing memories when you invented terrorists called antifa in >>1506447

>>1506464
ESL shills don't like it when you remind them that their angry mob beat a police officer to death on Jan 6th.
They try to pretend they didn't murder him, pretending he would have died of his injuries even if he wasn't savagely beaten.

>>1506463
>May 30th 2020
>BLM/Antifa rioters try to break down barriers and storm the white house
>chanting how they'll kill Trump
>throw flammables, caustics, fireworks, etc. at police, national guard, secret service, etc.
>burn up an entire building
>set fire to part of a church nearby, but that gets put out
>over 60+ secret service injured
>situation was so bad SS moved Trump + family to a secure bunker - which the left, including Biden, mocked him for
>because the left did this, nobody called it an insurrection
>because the left did this, only one person was charged with a crime - a lousy destruction of government property charge
>because the left did this, nobody even knows what May 30th was
It never ceases to amaze me how nobody in Jan 6th set a single fire, and wasn't a tenth as violent as your average 'fiery but peaceful' protest, yet it was somehow worse than everything the left did in 2020 - and got the hammer dropped on them by the FBI, unlike the left that could commit actual sedition and not one of them got hit with a seditious conspiracy charge.

>>1506478
>ESL shills don't like it when you remind them that their angry mob beat a police officer to death on Jan 6th.
You mean the guy who died from natural causes after Jan 6th, according to the top medical investigator in D.C.?

>>1506479
>noooooo he died of natural causes while in a coma from the savage beating MAGA gave him
eternal cope

>>1506480
Do you know more than the Chief Medical Examiner of the District of Columbia?
>trust the science... unless that science disagrees with us!!!

>>1506481
The same Medical Examiner who ruled Babbit as dying from natural causes?

>>1506482
[citation needed]

>>noooooo he died of natural causes while in a coma
>while in a coma
>coma
[also citation needed]

>>1506483
Yeah, going into a coma and dying is a natural cause of being beaten by a violent retarded mob

Why are you so triggered that MAGA beat a police officer to death? Just own it.

>>1506484
>Yeah, going into a coma
[citation still needed]

>>1506485
>Its okay to beat police officers to death when MAGA does it
nope, never will be either

>>1506486
More police officers have died during Black Lives Matter demonstrations then died during January 6

>>1506479
Source on this "may 30th" event happening? where they injure 60 secret service agents?

>>1506487
>admits Sicknick was murdered by the mob
I'll accept your concession
Go shill somewhere else, loser

>>1506430
>>1506432
>>1506373

>>1506448
Jan 6 had violence towards police:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmtL27dqz6w

you can hear a cop screaming because he's being crushed.

>>1506490
>because he's being crushed.
Natural causes. He would have been crushed even if Trumps violent mob didn't crush him.

>>1506488
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/secret-service-took-trump-to-underground-bunker-amid-george-floyd-protests?msockid=29c13ee7046e67311af42b1f05ef6620

>>1506492
Do you have that from a news site?

>>1506490
The original claim was that one of these officers were beaten to death.
>I still remember the peaceful mob peacefully beating a police officer to death because he wouldn't let them into the captial
Turns out that's bullshit. The only person to die at Jan 6th was Ashli Babbitt.

>>1506492
doesn't say anything about 60+ secret service personnel being injured
doesn't say anything about people chanting death threats to trump
Doesn't say protesters burnt the church.
Says more than 1 person was charged.

>>1506494
>we didn't beat the police officer to death
>we just beat him so savagely he died from his injuries later
MAGA beat a police officer to death.

>>1506495
Because its just cope over killing a cop

>>1506494
Ashli Babbitt got what she deserved for attemping a coup.

She wasn't the only one who died: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/4-people-died-as-supporters-of-president-donald-trump-violently-occupied-the-u-s-capitol

>>1506495
>Says more than 1 person was charged.
Where?

>>1506497
>Ashli Babbitt got what she deserved for attemping a coup.
>from the same people still crying over a dead lesbian in Minnesota that tried to run over a federal agent

>>1506495
Actual news article:
https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-ap-top-news-george-floyd-politics-a2326518da6b25b4509bef1ec85f5d7f

Right wingers are natural pussies, so of course they're pretending that this was on the level of Jan 6th despite the worst it got was 'tugging at police barriers'

>>1506499
Can you post the part of the video where she tries to run over the federal agent? Is he infront of the car when he shoots her?

>>1506498
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/secret-service-took-trump-to-underground-bunker-amid-george-floyd-protests
>In Brooklyn, two attorneys, including a New York University School of Law graduate, were charged with throwing a Molotov cocktail at an NYPD cruiser.

>>1506500
>Actual news article:
>doesn't mention flammables, caustics, fire, arson
lol

>>1506502
>>In Brooklyn,
Hey retard, is the White House in Brooklyn?

>>1506504
Fox News isn't news either
Its like quoting the Onion

>>1506501
>Can you post the part of the video where she tries to run over the federal agent?
Yes.
>Is he infront of the car when he shoots her?
Yes.

>>1506499
So pathetic to watch the video of Renee good being shot through her passenger window by an ice agent who ignored all protocol and training that teaches day one rookies not to stand in front of a vehicle. Then panicking and shooting her in the face after he is clearly out of the path of the vehicle (shot through the passenger window, after he stood in the improper place. After he was reprimanded for being run over after a previous incident in which he did the exact same stupid thing) and then leaving the scene of the shooting. All the craziest inappropriate and illegal actions an officer can take.

And then comparing that to a capital police officer who was protecting barricaded politicians as Ashley Babbit crawled over the barricade and attempted to climb through a broken window to get at politicians despite being told to stand down and stop breaching the barricade over and over. This capital police officer did their job to the letter.

And you. Being such a fucking stupid cult member can’t see the difference.

lmao, getting BTFO so hard on the capital riot that you randomly bring up someone murdered by ICE as a distraction

>>1506511
>lolololol ashli deserved it
>WAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH HOW DARE YOU MOCK OUR CARPET MUNCHER WHO HIT A FED WITH HER CAR
kek

>>1506508
Nope not even close. He shot her through her passenger window after he is out of the path of the vehicle he improperly stood in front of.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/graphics/2026/01/08/ice-shooting-video-minneapolis/88070863007/

Clear as day he shoots through the passenger window to kill her.

>>1506514
Hate clear facts do ya?

>>1506516
>The first agent fires three shots, one at the front windshield
>>Is he infront of the car when he shoots her?
>Yes.
lol

>>1506508
then post the video and time stamp.

>>1506514
RIP george foid, munched her last rug 2026 never forget

>>1506520
someone can shoot through the front of a car without being directing in its path.
Do you know what a diagonal line is?

>>1506523
>Do you know what a diagonal line is?
Does it have anything to do with the police officer that MAGA violently beat to death on Jan 6th that you're trying to ignore?

>>1506521
See >>1506516

>>1506523
>he fires at the front of the windshield
>from the side
>still hits her
lmao

>>1506524
Who was violently beaten to death on January 6th?
What is your source?

>>1506525
I already linked the breakdown. But you can just use your eyes and watch the video where again… he stands in front of a vehicle against procedure. Something he has been reprimanded for doing in the past then he moves out of the way of the vehicle and shoots through her passenger window… AFTER HE SHOOTS THROUGH HER FRONT WINDOW MISSING HER!!!!!!

You fucking clown. He clearly shoots through her front windshield in a panic. Then moves tithe so de of the vehicle. No longer in danger, that he out himself in by not following protocol, and shoots her in the head through her passenger window.

This officer did everything wrong and you are a fucking dumbass. Die mad and dumb

>>1506531
>AFTER HE SHOOTS THROUGH HER FRONT WINDOW MISSING HER!!!!!!
[citation needed]

lmao this whole thread has been you sperging while lying about basic shit that takes five seconds to google.

>>1506530
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9124461/US-Capitol-Police-officer-DIES-following-MAGA-mob-riots-Congress-marking-FIFTH-death.html
MAGA COP KILLER

>>1506534
First shot through the front window grazed her right tit. Second shot hit her left shoulder through the passenger window after the officer was out of the path of the vehicle. Third shot in her head killed her. Way after he is to the side of the vehicle. Autopsy showed.

Clearly shows he grazed his first shot through her window at an angle. The autopsy also says she was shot through the passenger window with the second and third shot he fired. Every shot has to be justified. Every shot is analyzed.

https://www.wionews.com/world/-shot-in-the-head-renee-good-independent-autopsy-reveals-how-she-was-killed-by-ice-officer-in-minnesota-1769162694500

The other poster was wrong only about the first shot missing. It grazed her. The other shots were through the passenger window. Been fact checked. Facts linked.

>>1506547
paywalled. paste the article

>>1506520
>>1506523
>>1506524
my points is he wasnt in front of the vehcile when she was shot. she turned away from him. thats why i bring up diagonals.

>>1506549
I didn't post the article but its not a paywall for me? you just click the "show full article" button.

Anyways an archived version:
https://archive.today/2026.04.16-175905/https://www.wionews.com/world/-shot-in-the-head-renee-good-independent-autopsy-reveals-how-she-was-killed-by-ice-officer-in-minnesota-1769162694500

Minnesota should secede and join Canada. The Vikings will be good in the CFL

>>1506478
>>1506464
retarded leftists don't like it when people bring up their sheer hypocrisy and the fact they've been actively commiting jan6 for years without any reperccussions until now.
I hope you suffer

>>1506598
hi esl shill

>>1506598
no, because leftists haven't beaten any cops to death like MAGA did on Jan 6th

>>1506603
Did anyone get charged for that?

>>1506600
hi litmus test for being an uneducated retard
>>1506603
you shot a firefighter in the neck and caused billions in damages. I think trump should issue an order declaring martial law and send you to the gulag for being a piece of shit.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/nypd-cop-assassinated-bronx-while-sitting-marked-police-vehicle-n779611
ahh yes the imaginary peaceful leftists

>>1506610
>ahh yes the imaginary peaceful leftists
Thank you for admiting that they're just delusions
Its the first step to understanding, and now you can properly hold right wing retards accountable for their crimes

>>1506606
Trump pardoned them

>>1506611
did you even pass gradeschool english? you just said peaceful leftists are delusions.

>>1506613
Were they charged with murder? Should I just go look this up myself?

>>1506615
All the leftists are delusions. Trump was only targeted by right wingers

>>1506613
>Sicknick's death was investigated by the Metropolitan Police Department's Homicide Branch, the USCP, and the FBI.[7] On March 14, 2021, Julian Elie Khater and George Pierre Tanios were arrested and charged with assaulting Sicknick with a chemical spray.[15] They were not charged in connection with Sicknick's death. On July 27, 2022, Tanios pleaded guilty to lesser misdemeanor charges unrelated to the assault on Sicknick.[16] On January 28, 2023, Khater was sentenced to almost seven years in prison for assaulting two officers, including Sicknick, with a dangerous weapon.[4][17][18][19] Both Khater and Tanios were pardoned on January 20, 2025, by Donald Trump on the first day of his second administration as part of his blanket pardon to nearly all people convicted of or charged with offenses related to the Capitol attack.[

>>1506494
Interesting how the fascists immediately move the goalpost when we have video evidence of a police officer getting crushed to near death by a fascist mob taking part in a violent coup because of trump.

>>1506620
interesting how leftists never want to hold themselves accountable for commiting crimes but will make a mountain out of a molehill for anything else and pretend they're the good guys.
Its like a serial killer screaming at someone for pickpocketting very disgusting behavior

>>1506621
god you're esl

>>1506621
>Whatabout
Vatnik spotted.
Reminder this is their most used tactic for years.
https://files.catbox.moe/1nmmn6.jpg

>>1506621
You have such strange strawmen leftists living in your head.

>>1506620
>Interesting how the fascists immediately move the goalpost
>by not letting you move the goalpost
No officers died at Jan 6th. Your claim is bullshit.
>b-but this guy was almost crushed to death!
Still alive.

>>1506629
>I didn't hear about it so it didn't happen
NTA but you might want to google that

>>1506632
No officers died on Jan 6th. Why don't you google that and tell me otherwise, instead of wasting my time showing videos of police not dying at Jan 6th.

>>1506634
Ashley Babbit wasn't killed by federal police on Jan 6th. She naturally died of her injuries seconds later.

>>1506636
The difference between my claim and your claim is that my claim is backed up by the chief medical officer of D.C., while your claim is backed up by the shit you pulled out of your own ass.

>>1506629
One officer died. He was pepper sprayed, maybe hit in the head with a fire extinguisher, cause of death was multiple strokes

>>1506479
antifa isnt a group.

>>1506637
You’re lying, he isn’t. I don’t think you’re Russian

>>1506637
He fell unconscious and was hospitalized after being attacked on Jan 6 and died the next day. Not a coincidence

>>1506638
>On April 19, 2021, the Office of the Chief Medical Examiner of the District of Columbia issued a press release about the death of Sicknick. The release said that the manner of death was natural
>natural
>natural
>natural
I love how the retards in this thread, that don't have an education beyond high school, think they know more than the top medical examiner of D.C.

>>1506645
No, the chief medical officer of D.C. declared he died of natural causes.
He would have died Jan 7th regardless of the mostly peaceful interactions he had with the Jan 6th tourists.

>>1506637
> Sicknick death ruled ‘natural’ but experts say stress can set off strokes
https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/20/health/sicknick-death-natural-strokes/index.html
> Sicknick suffered strokes that killed him, according to the medical examiner’s office. However, the medical examiner, Dr. Francisco Diaz, told the Washington Post, that “all that transpired” on January 6 “played a role in his condition.”

>>1506650
>> Sicknick death ruled ‘natural’
And there you have it. There's a reason why nobody at Jan 6th was charged with murder - despite so many faggots in /news/ claiming multiple cops died.

>>1506654
You're getting awfully mad at being wrong.

>>1506654
No, it was just the one cop brutally beaten to death by a MAGA crowd so thoroughly they couldn't track the wounds back to any one person.
MAGA is collectively guilty, and should collectively hang.

>>1506648
>>1506649
Wrong, he said the attack on Jan 6 played a roll

>>1506656
>died of natural causes
>brutally beaten to death
lol keep coping.

>>1506654
Who claimed multiple cops were killed?

>>1506657
So why wasn't anyone charged with murder?

>>1506660
Because MAGA decided to roll over and accept cops being murdered to satisfy their retardation

Its why its hilarious every time you faggots pretend leftist violence should be abhorred.

Trump Derangement Syndrome killed an innocent cop

>>1506659
See >>1506497

>>1506661
>Because MAGA decided to roll over and accept cops being murdered to satisfy their retardation
Yeah that's still not answering my question, faggot. Why didn't anyone in the FBI, under Biden's administration, charge anyone at Jan 6th with murder? The same organization that was charging 75 year old grandmothers with seditious conspiracy.

>>1506664
>MAGA beats Sicknick into a coma
>Sicknick dies
>HERP SICKNICK DIED OF NATURAL CAUSES
MAGA are unrepentant copkillers
Hiding behind semantics is just admitting guilt

>>1506662
Did you read the article? That’s about other trump supporters who were involved in the attempted coup.

>>1506664
>Why didn't anyone in the FBI, under Biden's administration, charge anyone at Jan 6th with murder?
They didn't because they couldn't, so they just arrested everyone and left them in jail for four years until Trump pardoned them.

ESL shills just can't understand because their brains are fundamentally deficient.
Democrats, i.e. Real Americans, don't wander into situations looking to kill their fellow citizens. At the end of the day we can always come to a compromise that benefits everyone.
Republicunts have a recessive brain that predisposes them to solve problems with violence, and with the anti-intellectual nature of the party they're often too stupid to use anything but brute force.
Its why its never a surprise when every would be Trump assassin turned out to be conservative. Why its always MAGA killing people like the Jan 6th cop, or running over protesters. All they have is violence.

ESL shill is just too cowardly to go out and perform IRL violence so they impotently bitch on /news/

>>1506667
>>MAGA beats Sicknick into a coma
[still waiting on a citation for this]

>>1506669
>They didn't because they couldn't,
And why couldn't they?
>hint: natural causes

Does anyone else find it strange how the miggers are so emotionally invested in portraying the far right extremists in the news story as completely normal tourists despite all the evidence to the contrary?

MAGA retardation is so natural that being beaten to death by violent MAGA retards counts as natural causes

>>1506674
You are the most retarded jeet on this board

>>1506674
>Fiery but mostly peaceful protests

>>1506681
I'm from Texas and you're not.

>>1506682
That was one CNN reporter who said that and not the entire DNC like you seem to think.

>>1506684
Move your ass back to california and stop shitting up the state

>>1506684
>I'm from Texas and you're not.
Let me guess. Austin?

>>1506674
My only opinion about J6 is that the media is responsible for tricking you into thinking that it was worse than Pearl Harbor.

>>1506685
Born and bred in Texas
>>1506687
Of course!
>>1506692
>it's a shoot the messenger argument
You seem to be on the wrong board for this.

>>1506664
possibly for the same reason they didn't charge those people with treason (which is what the people involved with the coup should have been faced with).
incompetence.

>>1506693
>shoot the messenger argument
I don't think about J6 outside of whenever I hear dems sincerely argue it was an insurrection. And they do that because it's what they heard from the media.

>>1506692
Well, the attack on pearl harbor was from an outside actor and had overal less risk to the stability of the nation.
Jan 6 targeted the capitol during a transfer of power while all of congress was present.

>>1506695
They call it a coup and insurrection because they have eyes.

Trump had his lawyer go on stage during this and told his followers to have a "trial by combat"
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-65613941


Trump refused to send in the military or police even after hearing about the attack.
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-65613941
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-61971428
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/jan-6-panel-looks-trump-white-house-cassidy-hutchinson-testimony-rcna35550

>>1506695
>I entered a thread about a topic I don't like and now I am mad

>>1506696
>had overal less risk to the stability of the nation
The japanese wanted to use to dramatically reduce America's sphere of influence, and potentially use it as a staging point to attack the west coast.

meant to post this one too:
https://apnews.com/article/capitol-riot-fact-check-trump-biden-rioters-0b3406e02c86bd057e15c9d8c16ccd51

>>1506697
>They call it a coup and insurrection because they have eyes.
A coup d'état can only happen from within the government. You have no idea what you're talking about.

>>1506700
that is not at all why they attacked pearl harbor.

>>1506694
Except they still charged people with seditious conspiracy. So explain how they were able to do that but not pin a murder charge on the people they were already charging with assault?
>incompetence.
Welp you voted for Biden. You wanted a senile puppet in office who accomplished fuck-all beyond flooding our country with illegals. But I digress. Biden's incompetence will have to be a different thread to cover all his failures.

>>1506697
>peacefully and patriotically

>>1506706
If he was against the violence, Why didn't Trump send in the police or the army?

>>1506702
trump was involved in the coup.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_6_United_States_Capitol_attack

>>1506704
>who accomplished fuck-all beyond flooding our country with illegals

Notice how we never heard about this border issue until Trump.

Notice how Trump couldn't seal it off or make the wall in his 4 years.

Notice how when Trump talked about Biden's border he changed the amount of millions of people coming in every time.

Notice how in Trumps second term you never hear about the border and they proclaim it is 1000% sealed off, not 1 single person has entered in the past year.

You are dim and easily duped. The border is a manufactured issue littered with lies, told only by the most corrupt and lying administration in America's history.

>>1506704
How did biden "flood" the country with illegals? he deported as many or more than trump:
https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/biden-deportation-record

>>1506697
>Trump refused to send in the military or police even after hearing about the attack.
The transcripts were recorded during interviews with top government officials in the aftermath of January 6th by the Pentagon’s inspector general. One of the key witnesses was Mark Milley, former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. During his interviews, Milley admitted that during a meeting on January 3rd, President Trump had already approved the use of the National Guard and active-duty troops to maintain law and order in the nation’s capital on the 6th.

“The President just says, ‘Hey look at this. It’s going to be a large amount of protesters coming here on the 6th, and make sure that you have sufficient National Guard or Soldiers to make sure it’s a safe event,’” Milley recalled to the inspector general. Milley then said that Christopher Miller, who was acting Secretary of Defense at the time, assured the president of security plans for that day: “Miller responds by saying, ‘Hey, we’ve got a plan, and we’ve got it covered.’ And that’s about it.”

Later in the same interview, Milley again confirmed that President Trump was the one who insisted on higher security.

“It was just what I just described, which was, ‘Hey, I don’t care if you use Guard, or soldiers, active-duty soldiers, do whatever you have to do,” Milley continued. “Just make sure it’s safe.”

>>1506711
So why didn't he send in troops or backup for the police the day of the attack?

https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/point-7-evidence-during-attack-trump-ignored-requests-speak-out-and-failed-act-quickly

>>1506709
>Notice how we never heard about this border issue until Trump.
Oh ho stopped reading there. That's one fuckin' hell of a lie there anon. I guess you forgot about the time Biden sent feds to tear down the barbed wire on the Texas border - that Texans set up to curb some of the illegals flooding into their state. Because fuck states rights unless a Republican is in office.

Also you forgot about all those busses of migrants Abbott sent to New York, Chicago, etc. to give you fuckers just a taste of what we go through every day, and you ended up declaring state emergencies over it.

>Capitol riot: Trump ignored pleas to condemn attack, hearing told
https://www.bbc.com/news/62261164
>Ex-US President Donald Trump watched last year's Capitol riot on TV at the White House, ignoring his children and aides who "begged him" to rebuke the mob, a congressional inquiry has heard.

>>1506707
You mean that thing he told General Milley to do and then Miller said fuck that and refused?

>>1506714
border states have resources for migrants that middle of country states do not.
pretty sure they also didnt properly notify those states of the busses

>>1506714
>That's one fuckin' hell of a lie there anon. I guess you forgot about the time Biden sent feds to tear down the barbed wire on the Texas border

That was Jan of 2024. Trump ran for president on this border thing in 2015.

>>1506718
Source for general Milley refusing to do that on jan 6 after the attack started?

>>1506710
I hate how we're shifting the topic to immigration now. tl;dr the border is locked down and there's a 90% decrease, compared to the millions that got in under Biden.

If you want to know more, then make a new thread. I want to keep it focused on Jan 6th.

>>1506713
>So why didn't he send in troops or backup for the police the day of the attack?
The Sergeant of Arms begged for help for hours and Pelosi's team - which she was in charge of security - refused until after Ashli was shot.

>>1506721
Miller. And here:
https://amgreatness.com/2024/09/25/transcripts-president-trumps-request-for-more-troops-on-january-6th-was-denied/

>>1506720
Oh you wanted to go back further? Remember Obama and the kids in cages issue?

>>1506719
>border states have resources for migrants that middle of country states do not.
New York doesn't have the resources to take in a million illegals each year? Well then I guess they need to shut the fuck up about immigration if they can't share their part of this burden that they're forcing on us.

>>1506725
>Oh you wanted to go back further?
Yeah that was the crux of my statement.

>Remember Obama and the kids in cages issue?
What does that have to do with Trump non-stop saying that millions of people are flooding the country and eating cats and dogs?

Your reading comprehension is poor.

>>1506723
>The Sergeant of Arms begged for help for hours and Pelosi's team - which she was in charge of security - refused until after Ashli was shot.
Source? That fails the sniff test. Why would pelosi, a house rep's team be in charge of all the security. The head of the senate was a republican at the time.

>>1506725
>Miller. And here:
>https://amgreatness.com/2024/09/25/transcripts-president-trumps-request-for-more-troops-on-january-6th-was-denied/

Did you read the article?
>during a meeting on January 3rd,
This was before the attack happened. I'm asking about why trump didn't ask for troops to defend the capitol during the attack.

>>1506725
>New York doesn't have the resources to take in a million illegals each year? Well then I guess they need to shut the fuck up about immigration if they can't share their part of this burden that they're forcing on us.
what is the burden? how are they forcing it on you? and what wont they shut up about?

>>1506733
The million figure is made up, he is parroting the word million from Trump who lies non-stop.

>>1506728
>What does that have to do with Trump non-stop saying that millions of people are flooding the country and eating cats and dogs?
DACA. Who created it?

>>1506729
Look up Paul Irving, the Sergeant-At-Arms that was begging for reinforcements, from the Speaker of the House, which was Pelosi at the time, who was responsible for security.

>>1506730
>I'm asking about why trump didn't ask for troops to defend the capitol during the attack.
See above.

>>1506733
>what is the burden?
Incredible. Blue states like New York had to declare an emergency because they couldn't handle a couple thousand immigrants, and you're asking me what is the burden for border states that have to take in a million each year because you people won't even allow us control of our own borders?

>>1506734
https://www.pewresearch.org/race-and-ethnicity/2025/08/21/u-s-unauthorized-immigrant-population-reached-a-record-14-million-in-2023/

>>1506648
>Naturally dying by getting bludgeoned and having his lungs filled with a chemical weapon
An attempt was made

>>1506737
It doesn't say we took in a million per year

>>1506736
>Incredible. Blue states like New York had to declare an emergency because they couldn't handle a couple thousand immigrants, and you're asking me what is the burden for border states that have to take in a million each year because you people won't even allow us control of our own borders?
The border states are given funding to deal with that.

>>1506736
>Look up Paul Irving, the Sergeant-At-Arms that was begging for reinforcements, from the Speaker of the House, which was Pelosi at the time, who was responsible for security.
Show me where she prevented reinforcements. I can't find anything that says that.

>>1506736
>>I'm asking about why trump didn't ask for troops to defend the capitol during the attack.
>See above.
Why would the commander of the military have to ask the speaker of the house for troops?

>>1506737
>The label “unauthorized immigrants” captures a complex array of statuses, including immigrants who entered the U.S. legally.

Your link does not show data you think it does.

>>1506738
>An attempt was made
Not the argument.

>>1506739
>from 10 million in 2020 to 14 million in 2023
>not a million per year
Anon...

>>1506741
>The border states are given funding to deal with that.
Oh really? How much? From where?

>>1506742
https://dallasexpress.com/national/jan-6-sund-blasts-pelosi-for-denying-national-guard-leaving-capitol-vulnerable/

>>1506743
>“As Nancy Pelosi was being evacuated from the Capitol on January 6, 2021 she admitted that, as Speaker of the House, she was responsible for the security failures, and for not having the National Guard at the Capitol,” said Chairman Loudermilk.

>>1506745
im not sure about the details in that link he posted, but a lot of illegal immigrants ironically enter the country in a legal fashion and haven't actually comitted a crime. overstaying a visa isn't a crime

>>1506747
she's saying she should have done more. nothing there says she preventing troops from being sent in during the attack.

>>1506745
So show me better data than pew research. What are the REAL numbers of illegals, that according to you, aren't expanding a million each year?

>>1506747
Why would the commander of the military have to ask the speaker of the house for troops?

The article you linked even says this
>Still, Pelosi has maintained that ultimate responsibility rested with the Trump administration.

>>1506749
She's the Speaker of the House, security is her job, and she's an experienced politician so if she wanted to mobilize the national guard she would've been able to instantly. Instead her team stalled because muh optics.

>>1506751
Again, security is the job of the Speaker of The House for the House of Representatives. If you're implying that the military doesn't need the Speaker's authority to mobilize, how was her staff able to hold them back for hours?

>>1506753
>She's the Speaker of the House, security is her job
No.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/21/politics/fact-check-jim-jordan-nancy-pelosi-january-6-security

>>1506742
They can't. She's literally on video calling for help from other agencies.

Also, this entire discussion is dumb as fuck. Overlapping jurisdictions are a thing. There's like 9 different federal police agencies not to mention the US military that would be responsible for responding to an attack on Congress whether or not a call for help has gone out.

Same goes for SCOTUS. The idea that security there only falls to one or two agencies is fucking stupid.

The argument being made here is along the lines of saying a cop can't stop a rape happening right in front of them unless the victim dials 911 and that specific officer is called on to respond by dispatch. Except in this case we know the fucking call happened.

We're also setting aside the fact that the VP was on the scene too, so Secret Service had a duty to respond as well and they did jack shit, too. That has fuck all to do with Congress.

Jan 6 truthers are all violent, pathological liars and lack basic humanity. They'd slit your throat for mildly inconveniencing them if they thought they could get away with it.

>>1506753
> If you're implying that the military doesn't need the Speaker's authority to mobilize, how was her staff able to hold them back for hours?
Trump is the commander in chief of the military. Why didn't HE order them sent in?

>>1506750
>So show me better

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning

>What are the REAL numbers of illegals
That the best part, retard. If someone illegally crosses the border and enters, they are not accounted for, therefore there is no data.

>>1506747
>bot response
Concession accepted

>>1506624
>>1506626
>don't call us out as hypocrites
>whataboutism whataboutism whataboutism!! it's fine when I do it not YOU
I wonder how long it takes for retarded leftists to realize whataboutism excuse is literally the same as going lalala i'm a hypocrite stop bring it up.

>>1506853
why are you so esl

>>1506753
>Again, security is the job of the Speaker of The House for the House of Representatives. If you're implying that the military doesn't need the Speaker's authority to mobilize, how was her staff able to hold them back for hours?

Pelosi doesn't command the national guard. At best you are just arguing that some of her staff members didn't call for help. BUT the national guard are not obliged to wait for a call for help from a specific staff member before sending in help during an active attack. And there were numerous other people calling for help during the attempted coup on jan 6.