China only makes EVs and zero trucks. americans aren't going to all start buying EVs when they can't even charge them in most of the country let alone ditching their truck for a car.

>>28915539
He's right.
Letting chinese cars in without tarrifs would collapse our entire automotive sector.
The result would be tens of millions of job losses.
And a complete destruction of our ability to make cars.

Americans can't complete with slave labor without also lowering our standards down to 3rd world status.

>>28915539
Ford has become a complete inversion of the company that Henry created. I don't give a rats ass if they are considered "American", they are shit. I would sooner buy a Stellantis product (Gladiator) than any shitbox from Ford. If they go out of business, fuck em, who cares?

>>28915644
ford is gay but worse is gutting whats left whats left of american manufacturing

>>28915539
Chinese can't built anything durable, long lasting, or something that respects your privacy.

Anyone who thinks it's a good idea for chink cars or bikes is inheritly authoritarian or comically short sighted/ignorant to the realities of buying products made in an authoritarian regime.

>FUCK CHANG NO HE CANNOT HANG
>YWNBARCM (Real car manufacturer)
>FREE WORLD ONLY (USA, EU, GERM, ITAL, JPN, ETC)

>>28915539
this coming from the guy who signed off on shitcanning thousands of jobs a few months ago while in the same breath complaining nobody wants to work?
is he fearful of US jobs or is he fearful of his job after USDM would get completely outcompeted after finding out people just want cheap cars?

>>28915691
The only thing that the Ford CEO was truthful about in his statement was that there's a shortage of mechanics/technicians willing to work for their slimy dealerships.

Ford makes many of their parts in non-standard shapes so that they are harder for the aftermarket to manufacture (greed). They are also more difficult to install and work with so that people have to go to their dealerships to get simple work done on their cars (more greed).
Talking to mechanics that have to work on all brands, they hate having to work on Fords when it comes to domestic vehicles.

As for the wage claim, the $120,000 figure is accurate only for experienced "master technicians" in specific markets, often requiring excessive hours or high productivity.
Median Earnings: According to data from May 2024, the median pay for automotive technicians is roughly $49,670, with even top-10% earners averaging closer to $80,850. ZipRecruiter data from April 2026 indicates the majority of Ford technician salaries range from $37,000 to $55,500.

>>28915539
Didn't he import a Chinese car?

>>28915664
>Chinese can't built anything durable, long lasting, or something that respects your privacy
uhhhhhhhh

Protectionism is good. Don't let pearl clutching redditors try to convince you otherwise.

>>28915747
Why don't you do protectionism against outsourcing services to India?

>>28915664
>Chinese can't built anything durable, long lasting, or something that respects your privacy.
My god, they're already on par with the Americans, Koreans, and Germans
It's only a matter of time before they reach the Japanese

Didn't they say that about Japan tho

>>28915721
>Ford makes many of their parts in non-standard shapes so that they are harder for the aftermarket to manufacture (greed).
Tin foil retard. By "standard shape" are you referring to regular polygons? Still would have to be machined, and being regular or non regular makes no difference to a cnc. Or do you mean with compound curves or casted. Could it.. now hold on here.. could it possibly be in order to fit various parts into a confined space? No they're definitely twisting their mustaches over making the parts difficult to machine or cast (same thing, the mold has to be cnc'd) in order to potentially increase their bottom line by .5% even though they're gouging insurance in 90% of these cases anyway.

Also, salaries across the board is an almost irrelevant metric because of the vast discrepancies between regional costs of living. A burger flipping retard in San Diego makes 35k a year. For the vast majority of the US $50k a year for replacing parts is pretty good, in San Diego you would be making 65+ without question if you were anything other than a fumbling dipshit.

It's an easy ass job with decent pay. It's not a conspiracy.

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>>28915539
ANY article that proffers this type of argument should ALSO be forced to disclose the Profit Margins at Ford.

I'm sick of this Walled Garden / Cottage Industry and "we can't do it" horseshit.

Americans want to buy American, but Ford must deliver and CAN DELIVER an $20000 no frills work truck, GODDAMNIT!

picrel JAC T9 Hunter $15,000 – $19,000
NOT AVAILABLE in the US
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAC_T9_Ute

1. V8 diesel or V8 gas
2. 6 speed manual
3. 4WD
4. Fully-servicable

>>28915539
>admitting defeat that openly
ameribros can't catch a break, can they?

>>28915785
I forgot to add:

GET RID OF THE FUCKING GRIFTING DEALERSHIPS.

Re-implement a Saturn-type direct-to-consumer model of business.

>>28915664
Imagine being this propagandized

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He says, while they aggressively replace said jobs with h1b jeets and Mexican slave labor
fucking kikes

Oh. So NOW it's important to protect American jobs.
What impeccable timing.

>>28915809
>>28915806
ding ding ding

>>28915785
those types of vehicles are just re-badged products. that probably 95% a ford ranger with a few things added or removed to conform to whatever shitty foreign regulations have to be met. price is relative to whatever shithole country its being sold in. It would be marked up to ranger price if it was sold in usa

>>28915563
Most companies adapt to the markets. For example, BYD is launching a kei car in Japan, which they don't sell anywhere else.

>>28915824
selling in the US isnt about adapting to the market, the market is arguably more manipulated than it is in China
Its about paying off the right politicians, its literally late republican rome with a fresh coat of paint
pay the right people and the market will adjust to you

>>28915829
Maybe, but I was just pointing out that the Chinese could put out EV trucks too. That's not the barrier to the US market.

>Boomers: you need to pull the bootstraps on kiddo and compete with the world
>Not like that though

>>28915539
I love how sweatshops are suddenly okay as long as they are making cars and not iphones or shoes.

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>>28915844
>so long as they’re making things cognizant humans consider purchasing versus literal subhuman ghost DNA bearers view as valuable
FTFY

>>28915832
EV trucks don't sell. Ford and GM already tried with miserable results. the whole reason Toyota made the Tundra and Nissan made the Titan is to emulate american style trucks, because trucks like the nissan hard body and hilux, while having their fans, were never going to come close to the sales of F150s and Rams. so Toyota and Nissan made trucks to directly compete with those vehicles including V8s with 350 cubic inches.

China can't do this so they'll never capture the US market like they did europe. america has been slow at adopting EVs.

>>28915859
All of those models you listed were around the same price as a regular truck or even more expensive.

>>28915563
then why is Ford scared

Americans will buy EVs if they're cheap enough

>>28915867
>>28915868
They couldn't sell them even when they were heavily discounted. Do you think the kind of conservative person who lives in a suburban neighborhood and likes trucks wants an EV at all?

>>28915884
They were never as heavily discounted as the Chinese EVs are in Europe.

>>28915886
They were. Ford and GM were practically trying to give them away. You keep forgetting that a cheap EV is worthless if there is nowhere for you to charge it.

>>28915889
They weren't. Give me a source for these massive discounts you're talking about.

>>28915891
https://www.reddit.com/r/whatcarshouldIbuy/comments/1qytbnc/i_have_seen_several_brandnew_2023_f150_lightning/

https://www.drive.com.au/news/ford-f-150-lightning-ev-enters-run-out-with-60k-slashed-from-price/

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>>28915563
>China only makes EVs and zero trucks
most of the cars they make are not EVs and they do in fact make lots of trucks

>>28915900
No one wants their ICE cars, though. That doesn't even compete with the ranger in sales across australia and europe.

>>28915901
Is that why the EU needed to create laws to force this behavior?

Also Farley and Ford are far left faggots

>>28915539
I don't understand the whole import fear mongering when both Ford and Chevy sell cars made in China and Volvo is straight up owned by the Chinese, and sells Chinese cars. And then every other country is allowed to sell imports no issue? We even have Indians and Saudis selling cars here.

>>28915901

Our ranger is Thai built and are pretty dogshit reliability wise. Chinkies are 20% of the market and gaining.

Since Australia doesn't have our own industry anymore, we don't give a fuck where our cars come from now.

>>28915539
>says Ford CEO

>>28915907
Force what behavior, buying EVs? we already know chinese EVs are some of the best selling vehicles on the planet. their ICE cars, not so much. Ford being a far left faggot probably explains why the CEO shills chinese shit. You're right, the US market is being manipulated. the campaign of urbanist posting anti truck content and the chinese shills all suddenly rose out of nowhere. it isn't a coincidence. It's a political psyops to turn people against american trucks and put them in EV pods.
>>28915912
are they 20% of the ICE market? again, no one is trading their ranger or hilux for a Chery. the depreciation on a chinese truck would make Italian luxury cars blush.

>>28915913
>Ford CEO says China numba wan
lmao

>>28915925
I mean, he bought a Chinese EV didn't he?

>>28915901
>chinese cars are shit
why is every American car company CEO shitting their pants about them then?

>>28915925
>>28915927
He's a shill. chinks are doing massive campaigns the likes of which no single corporation could ever dream of, including paying video game developers to put their cars in racing games. Video games that celebrate car culture suddenly featuring chinese EV crossovers, as if that was a car enthusiast were dying to drive virtually.

this shit isn't organic.

>>28915931
>every American car company
Ford* see>>28915932

>>28915919

They are 20% of the total market and have massive long warranty periods. Also, cheaper.

https://www.drive.com.au/news/china-is-now-the-1-source-of-new-vehicles-in-australia-heres-how-that-happened/

>>28915937
>includes EVs
you missed my point about people not caring about chinese ICE cars. EV is the only realistic way chinese brands could compete with american ones, and EVs just aren't as popular in america.

>no one will ever buy that Japanese tin can
>no one will ever buy that Korean crap
>no one will ever buy that Chinese junk
history doesn't repeat, but it rhymes

The chinese make evs because evs take zero engineering. The only thing chang can engineer is what he's stolen and the only industry he can produce, outside of propaganda, is what's given to him by a western corporation.

>>28915539
How 'bout learning to build better vehicles, Ford.

>>28915949
it took Japan decades to eclipse american cars and Korea never actually did. and despite Japan trying to overthrow the big three trucks with carbon copies of their own, as good as the Tundra and Titan are (tundra is kinda shit now but whatever). they still didn't dethrone the F150, Silverado, or RAM trucks.

China and Korea doesn't have the natural cultural influence Japan has. entire generations have been bred on japanese cars to the point where being cheaper isn't why people buy them. Korea and China don't have this.

>>28915539
I agree but not for his self-preservation. He begged for handouts to keep F150 production up when it's got transmission mortality rates that instantly makes them lemons.

>>28915727
Worse, he even has factories in China making Ford cars. American car manufacturers are fucking snakes and double for the ones defending them

>>28915806
based, non-wrenchlet

>>28915755
You suck only the greasiest Jewish dicks out there, and you're proud of it. Everyone else thinks you're a faggot.

>>28915539
I'm more for the free market. Abolish the chicken tax and the 25 year rule while you're at it.

>>28915949
it's happening with Chinese and Indian bikes now too, USA is being left behind simply because of protectionism and rose tinted glasses, it enabled us to stop advancing, I'd go as far and say our over regulated market and corrupt leaders stole our future and destroyed this country

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>>28916171
>Indian bikes
This kind of Indian btw, not the cursed American bike brand

>>28915664
>Chinese can't built anything durable, long lasting, or something that respects your privacy.
These Chinese cars get higher scores in all quality tests and are also safer with higher safety scores. GM and "made in America" means it is shit tier quality trash. Also wtf you are even saying "respects your privacy" while US is the top 1 worst country for that ever in the history of the universe. Are you on drugs?

>>28916173
I prefer the diesel, it may be a shaker but it runs forever.