Mk1 Twingo 16v with Ronal Teddy Bear wheels going around the burgerking in less than 10 minutes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hyi_jAFArV8
>>28948037 Not perfect (doors and handles are wrong, gauge cluster should be in the center), but good enough that I will likely buy one. >>28948060 >renault 5 looks massive and it ruins it a bit Agreed. Too big. It's a shame.
>>28948159 The smiley grille isn't as smiley and isn't a grille, and the headlights are narrow slits with pretend-happy LED arches The happy is a façade
>>28948060 I see a new 5 parked in my area sometimes, it looks FAT up close. Maybe I'll be able to get a pic of my mk1 next to it to show the size difference.
I want to own all these french retro electrics, but don't want to be seen driving them, does that make sense? I could make a exception if they drop the 205 ralley
>>28952847 >does that make sense? It does make sense. You wanna do <thing> but you're insecure as fuck. Solution: Man the fuck up and don't let your dreams be memes.
>>28948037 >renault 5 looks massive True, but the colors really lightens my day, I see one of the green on my commute. Also, that big 5 they put on the hood looks fresh. New Twingo looks like they simply evolved Zoe and made it a Twingo
>>28955239 Well maintained and washed they actually really look nice now. Also, each and every person I met who actually TAKES CARE of their Twingo were cool people. Most just used it as cheap shitbox and just sent it to the junkyard
>>28947742 Looking to replace my E36 Compact with a Twingo 3 GT. Seems like a fun little shitbox, add a tachometer, recode to ecu to remove traction control, and I should have a fun daily that you can slide for shit and giggles in the wet.
>aftermarket 4AGE rods have the same 122mm center-center distance as D4F rods, can be found for an 18mm wrist pin and go on the same diameter crank pin Can't find the width for the D4F rods anywhere, but if it's 21.85mm this could be very interesting for D4F turbo projects.
>>28956043 Following up on this, D4F wrist pins are actually 17.5mm, not 18. 4AGE rods would need custom pistons or you'd have to modify the D4F ones to fit the bigger pins, not to mention the widths may not match. R5 GT Turbo rods apparently work in a K4M though.
>>28955828 The 2 and 3 are too civilized for my taste. The 3 is a bit too german, sharing the platform with the smart. From the same era that looks quirky as well are the peugeot 208 pre facelift. You can get some with both the 1.6 and 1.5 diesels which are pretty reliable.
>>28948037 The absolutely ridiculously small slit you're supposed to look out of killed it for me. They went full retard. The old Twingo had an incredibly roomy feel to it. The new one is a cramped claustrophobic cave just like most new cars. It has less space inside than the old Twingo but is way way bigger on the outside.
all i want in life is a tiny little econo shitbox like the twingo but since its illegal to make cars that are cheap and look good anymore ill never own anything like it
The interior is too small for my taste but I'm definitely looking forward to see them on the road as a breather between all the monochromatic tryhard ANGERY fat suv blobs. Especially since Twingos finally bring some colors back on the roads.
>>28961643 most germans are used to drive between 90 and 120mph on the autobahns and keep getting surprised by e-cars being pretty much not fit for those types of journeys. i keep witnessing the long faces when they see the top speed of e-cars when they are interested in buying one.
twingo struggling with highway speeds is absolutely inline with the apparent trajectory of forcing the hand of europeans to slower highway speeds especially since germans always fought any attempt at getting their autobahn limited to speeds that are common in other places of the world. so in the end it seems like those limits won't be necessary - modern e-cars simply won't be able to go very fast
>>28961648 Conveniently most e-cars also can't get "easily tuned" for higher output like ICE cars. To make an e-car faster there are many really complex systems that have to get completely changed >can't beef up e-motor because the power source is hardcoded to provide a certain amount of power to the motor >can't beef up the power magic box because it's complex and any changes result in other computers in the car stop working (needless to say the warranty would be over too) >even if you somehow succeeded, the battery simply wouldn't be able to deliver the higher power output needed and the battery is the most expensive part
>>28961648 Whenever I drive on the autobahn I mainly stick behind some truck driving 90 km/h at a distance that another car could safely fit in. With ICE that's still the most efficient speed so I don't think I'd have trouble adapting to EVs.
>>28966470 >>28967066 There are actually rumors about a conspiracy between the French gubbernmint and Renault about the Twingo having been built like this with bed functionality to increase birth rates in France back then. Fact tho is that hundreds of thousands born between the years 1993 and at 2003 were conceived in Twingos. There could be literal Twingobabbies posting on /o/ right now.
>>28967072 What I also think is really funny is that the concept of the Twingo 100% worked. It was INCREDIBLY popular among young people. Meanwhile in Germoney they tried to cash in on that craze and Mercedes answered with the A-Class. They aggressively advertised it towards young people but in the end the majority who got them were old people because of the back-friendly ride height (and brand image of course).
>>28967085 The R5 is an e-car but car enthusiasts found out by poking around inside that it's actually suspiciously built to also easily house a normal ICE and transmission. Would be interesting to find out if the Twingo is built the same way. Apparently Renault isn't buying the 2035 ICE death so apparently they're keeping their doors open.
>>28959218 og gen 1 twingos are rare, nowadays you have better luck finding gen2's and 3's and probably the new EV twingo in paris. If you want gen 1's you gotta look elsewhere
>>28955486 No, an Initiale would have the "Initiale" badge above the side indicators, like in >>28955821. 16v versions also have a "16v" badge, so we know it's a 60ch version.
>>28967963 There's no Kenzo sticker, which could have worn off over time (it's gone on mine too), but Violet Empereur definitely looks more purple even outside of direct sunlight. Picrel not mine but it shows the sticker, color, and phase 4 front lip.
>>28961635 The thread will be dead by then. I live in northen Europe and they are doing some small modifications for it to be able to handle the winter. It won't show up until early 2027
>>28968812 It's a really nice color and it's borderline criminal that it was only available on the Twingo, for the last 3 years of its production, on one spec.
>>28974554 It was transportation and to some degree freedom of a whole generation in Europ of the 90s and 00s. Millions made unforgettable memories in those so of course the car has quite the emotional value to many now. It was absolutely everywhere back then. Some may laugh but it definitely was the VW Beetle of the that era.
>>28974598 There are cars in that size category with notably larger batteries than the 27 kWh on the new Twingo. Fiat 500e: 42 kWh Hyundai Inster: 49 kWh Leapmotor T03: 37k Skoda Citigo/Seat Mii: 37 kWh Mini Cooper Electric: 54 kWh The Twingo is labelled as Urban Range so they might release a comfort range or whatever version later on.
I love that the designer didn't want them to offer boring colors, so even the grey they added to the lineup after a year is a bit more interesting than usual.
>>28975215 https://cliosport.net/threads/twingo-172.504195/ This build thread is one of my favorite things on the internet. Gearbox bolts right to the stock mounts, engine needs a custom mount and the cabin intake "tray" needs some massaging but the 2.0 juuuuust fits between the frame rails with no modifications required. Bet it makes doing a timing belt job a colossal pain in the ass though.
>>28975279 ID. 1 is the competition for the Twingo and only out next year. VW had the (e-)Up as a competitor for the previous generation Twingo. ID. Polo is rivalling the Renault 5.
>>28975289 They've got a €25k trim slated for July, apprantly with a 37 kWh battery. I could see Renault release a longer range version of the Twingo which would be closer in price.
>>28975375 In that thread he used a bunch of Clio RS parts, like uprights, hubs, and brakes, which meant he had to get custom driveshafts made. A cheaper option would've been to either run all the Twingo stuff with Peugeot 307 calipers and Clio RS discs, or if you want the RS uprights just get some 21-spline Clio 1.6 hubs pressed into them and run the Twingo driveshafts. I think the non-VVT 1.6 16V is an even better budget swap candidate though, they're everywhere, the block isn't as tall or long as the 2.0 so the cabin intake "tray" needs less modification, and the lack of VVT should mean the stock ECU can be reused with only minor mods to the wiring harness as it uses basically the same sensors as the 1.2, you'd just need to adjust the fueling and timing tables.
>>28975428 im not super into twingos but man this is a cool project, thanks on the insight. speaking of tinboxes im into. there is a dude that has fiat cinquecento with 1,4Tjet basically engine from abarth500 https://youtu.be/QL9Ih7EdkdQ I think it would be a sick project trying to cramming fiats 2,0 16v twincam (engine used in lancia delta integrale, alfa romeo 155q4 and fiat coupe 16v turbo along with other turboed fiat group models) I love tinboxes with insane too big of engines that are still in the realm of possibility( a v8 in twingo is just ridiculous)
>>28975465 A friend of mine has a Punto, TwinAir, I helped him swap the head so he could run the bigger OEM turbo. Not quite as extreme but a good way to practice for something more involved. You'll love Adey's mk2 Twingo project then, he went from a simple 1.2T with some bolt-ons to fully converting the suspension to RS spec and swapping in a Megane RS 2.0l turbo block, all on the stock ECU: https://cliosport.net/threads/adeys-f4rt-twingo-gt.827356/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMZmrHaPyVM The thing made about 300hp when all was said and done, in a car that weighs no more than 1.2 tons.
>>28975497 thanks for the rec, subscribed, while not super into french cars i like seeing projects like these. also what gen punto? I used to own a mk2 punto
>>28976510 I think he meant just seeing them in person. I assume the anon is from north america since twingo never sold there iirc. its the same way euros seem amazed when seeing crown vic in person despite it being a common car in the states
>>28976510 he meant he saw random 2nd and 3rd gen Twingos driving around when he was on holiday in bri'ain >>28976518 Always a fun aspect of being abroad imho
>>28976580 >he saw random 2nd and 3rd gen Twingos driving around first gen. i dont think i would even recognize the second and third gen because they look like all generic miniature euro cars.
>>28976991 Quite a few have been imported into Britain these days, mostly by people that used to see them on their holidays to France and thought they were neat.