it really depends on what segment you're talking about. chevy barely does anything good anymore besdes trucks. but they do it the best when it comes to powertrain, everything else is average about it. ford finally went back to pushrods for the superduty, which is great and narrows the gap, plus it has a solid front axle if you care about that for off roading. ford has slimey dealerships though and some bad track records with certain reliability/design issues/racalls. they do cars way better than chevy though. seems like cars are an afterthought for chevy. back in the early 90s, ford was better with trucks, but by the late 90s gm had eclipsed them. if I got a ford truck, it would be a 4wd super duty with the godzilla. otherwise it's gm all day. bronco with a manual too, or a regular cab f150 with the 5.0.
>>28976677 that's because most euro fords are euro designed, not american. cosworth is responsible for all of the best ford powertrains. vauxhaul and opel is the same thing, it's not american designed, but euro designed.
Ford wins in trucks Chevy wins in sports cars (camaro/corvette/cadillac blackwing vs just the mustang) In terms of the econoboxes/crossovers/suvs Ford wins. The ford explorer is kind of compelling with the 3.0 twin turbo v6 The bronco has no competitor from chevy Chevy puts 1.5 turbo in everything, ford still keeping 2.0 turbo (both slop but at least ford giving a bigger engine)
>>28976828 all of the good i4, v6, and now turbo ford motors of the last decades were cosworth or inspired by things learned from cosworth. it's the same way in which many good toyota engines are yamaha collabs. gm does one thing good, pushrod v8s. that's because they stuck to the same formula the entire time when everyone else was experimenting with other shit.
>>28976427 As a Ford owner, buy the Chevy. I imagine the Chevy owner will say the same thing about Ford lmao. Why can't we make a fucking decent truck anymore?
>>28977301 >noooo wealth must be consolidated to a select few not given to better the people's lives >profit my PROFIT, MY PROFIT Beheadings in this country in the next 10 or so years. I'll bet on it on polymarket.
Learned to drive in my dad's Chevy Silverado (2008) and then ended up in a Focus for the first car I bought. Which honestly Ford was not at all on my radar. Alternated between the van offerings in the Navy for in between duty stations. Still own the Focus and picked up a 94 F150. Also had a Mazda for a minute. Drive feel is just better in the Fords. In laws all drive Chevys but still respect Ford and hold the opinion that Ford has historically been better about handling recalls than Chevy. You should stop debating and just pick up whatever car or truck meets your specs.
>>28977550 I had horrendous experiance with recalls on two different fords. they "repaired" all of them like they were supposed to, but the problem is that the repair never fixed anything. ford just kept replacing the faulty designed parts. they got away with it too as most people were so fed up they just got rid of the vehicles an moved on. one was an abs proportioning pump which would literally make the brake pedal go to the floor and brakes not work at random times, usually under hard braking in the rain where abs would normally kick in. needless to say I'm 100% certain many people died and they never found the cause probably.
>>28977565 do you not remember the entire era where ford auto transmissions were taking shits? it was like 2012-2018 across multiple models of cars.half of them never even made it out of warranty period, the others happened right after it was out of warranty. they had trouble selling all the focus off the lots once people found out. that's why that generation of focus was considered a complete dud compared to previous well-received gens.
>>28977555 You fell for the working man costume. If you needed a truck the boss would give you one. If you want a truck, buy the most useful one. The crew cab short bed.
>>28977549 10 years? i thought it was 2 weeks lol > must be consolidated to a select few Shouldn't it be consolidated among the shareholders with dividends
>>28977953 Not defending Ford but you have to look at the type of recall. >massive Tesla "recall" because 1 vehicle had an issue. Fixed by an over the air patch. >massive Toyota recall. Dealer parking lots packed full of crate engines to be swapped because metal shavings were eating bearings.
>>28977805 I have it in my Focus, new TCM model fixes it finally and most are making it to 180-200k before finally dying and getting the MTX75 swap. Rest of the car is a perfect econocar. I'll be doing the swap in a decade when my mileage gets there. >>28977953 Yeah they recall everything that ranges from minor to major. Had a recall on my door latch even, some thing in my fuel tank for vacuum, and the PCV. Some of these minor ones in surprised they would even bother with issuing a recall.
>>28977991 >>28978033 yeah you can frame it both ways >their cars are so bad look at all these recalls or >they are always careful to correct even small mistakes they make at their own expense
>>28976427 ford. chebby tried to make they way trough the world buying brands like saab and opel and then trying to run them as an american company. well guess what that didnt work. meanhwile we got ford. ford germany, ford uk, ford turkey (?) ford australia, ford south africa, ford everywhere. it is a proof that the american business mindset is crap. they think they can use that business mind everywhere, but they cant.
>>28978181 Not for almost 10 years. Literally all it shares is that it's 5 liters. The coyote absolutely shits on any LS. It's embarrassing how anemic GM engines still are, yet they keep getting away with it because of goodgoys.
>>28978203 Ford themselves still use the term "modular", even for the current direct injection iteration, I think I'll believe them over some rando on 4chan. https://www.ford.com/product/50l-gen-4x-mustang-crate-engine-p2959841005
>>28978354 We went over this. Having a recall because the computer miscalculated how many miles are left before the tank is empty is not the same as having a recall because the frame rusted out and snapped in half.
>>28978293 The term "modular" was actually for a new system of machining and assembly that could be easily switched out, not the engine platform. It was confusing because it coincided with a common engine design that could be easily changed/upgraded to a different configuration.
>>28977935 You have middle eastern DNA schlomo. Heebs are always flaunting their 100% ashkenazi DNA results. Plus it is easy to see your hooked nose and wide lips.
>>28978443 Its kind of like how an SBC is just defined by a certain bore spacing, the old iron SBCs are not the same as an LS, and the LT is also another clean-sheet, they just share geometry.