>>28978154 i weigh 400 pounds, i can't fit in that fucking thing. i don't even know if the suspension could handle me by myself, let alone my wife, her girlfriend and her boyfriend.
>>28978154 front wheel drive "sports cars" are fine for europe. not america. america has more varied roads. we have narrow mountain roads, wide sweepers, hills and flats of all kinds. this is why America tends to make cars that handle better than the rest of the world.
that car would need some carbon fiber track package that cost six figures while american cars only need all seasons and don't even need a limited slip differential.
>>28978154 I need RWD, double wishies, lug studs, and for the majority of the car and its engine bay to not be made of dogshit plastic that biodegrades in 10 years.
3,300 lbs FWD Maccas front, multi link rear Open diff, uses traction control to brake the inner wheel to “simulate” lsd >It drives just like a go-kart tee-hee-hee.
>>28978214 I like using throttle while cornering. The feeling when your suspension squats to the rear then settles and you ramp up the throttle and it accelerates as you’re cornering instead of having to lift and be super gentle, that feeling is amazing.
>>28978212 no, I said it has more varied roads. more variety. You can find sweepers in europe and Japan, but nowhere near as big as the ones in america and nowhere near as wide. pikes peak is a mountain pass that is taller than anything in Europe or Japan. americans have more roads of all types than any other region. It's why the rest of the world comes to america to test their cars, but american brands don't have to go outside america, unless they specifically want to test on the nurburgring.
>>28978249 you can't do high speed testing on any of those roads, which is why keonigsegg comes to america to do top speed runs. you aren't helping your case at all.
>>28978264 very few european countries have an "autobahn". all european countries have highway systems, but they're not comparable to the ones in america or the kinds of speeds you can reach on them. This is ultimately why europeans worshiped front wheel drive while america didn't. you guys have tons of twisty roads, but that's it. if you made a track up of nothing but hairpins, it would be a shit track and wouldn't test a car's handling capabilities at all. so all you'd get is a car that is good at low speed cornering but shit at everything else.
america and american cars give you both. hence the camaro beating entry level cars like the Yaris GR all the way to high speed super cars like the R8. europe doesn't make cars that do it all. it's difficult because their environment doesn't let them do it all, either.
>>28978272 your manufacturers coming to america to test their cars seems to speak for itself. they could just stay home if everything they needed was there. the only reason american manufacturers come to europe is for the nurburgring and nothing else.
>>28978297 >they have both >but america has more variety which is why european manufacturers come to america to test did you completely miss the point of this conversation? you really must be retarded.
>>28978305 your "point" is an unprovable nonsense claim Koenigsegg did their top speed run on that highway in Nevada because it's in the middle of nowhere and they could afford to close it down. Bugatti did their top speed run for the Chiron on a test track in Austria, and have had it within spitting distance of 300km/h on the autobahn. That chinese EV did its top speed run on a test track in Germany. None of this proves your point either way.
>>28978319 you already proved my point here>>28978242. What mountain roads does europe have that are even comparable to pikes peak? everyone goes to pikes peak to race, and even build wild cars for. no one goes to this>>28978277 to test anything because it's shit and wouldn't even test anything but a shitbox performance. >Koenigsegg did their top speed run on that highway in Nevada because it's in the middle of nowhere there are middle of nowhere places in europe, too. the roads just aren't up to testing on. notice how when people do test cars in europe, it has to be on a test track. an artificial road designed for the purpose and not coming from the town's construction itself. you just dug your hole deeper with these examples. you can get within "spitting distance" of 300km/h on the autobahn, but you can go beyond it on a basic bitch american road. america is the best driving place in the world. sorry this bothers you as a self hating american cuck.